Okay, now I have never had such a noisy sleeper before. Lucas over the last week or so has become a really noisy breather in his sleep. It's almost like moaning. I have filmed it so I can show it to you to get your opinions.

To be honest I am feeling like it's a form of snoring, Tony is getting concerned and is worried it's an asthma thing or something. He has started me thinking and now I can't seem to shake it from my mind.

Can you please listen to the video and tell me if your baby did this or if you would think it's concerning or not.

For reference he is 11 days old now.

http://www.dropshots.com/MrsPeacefrog#date/2007-10-13/19:15:30


ETA: I should also add that when he is not making that moaning sound, he breaths like a panting dog, very heavy and fast.

Jacob would do this. He was a pretty noisy sleeper there for a while. What I hear in t he video is his voice - moaning like you said. I think that if it were asthma, it would be more wheezy. Then again, I'm not a doctor. :heee: I know how hard it is not to worry once you get a thought like that in your head, though. :hug99:

The one thing that I know for sure, it that I wanted to reach right through the screen and pick him up for a cuddle. :love:

I know, he is just precious isn't he :lol:

Ok, I agree with you on the 'voice' thing rather than a wheezing thing. The thing I am finding odd, and now I feel like I have over thought the whole thing :crazy: When he moans his breaths per minute are 48 (average) when he is not moaning, he pants heavily and his breaths per minute are 68 which is high for a newborn. It's like he moans to slow down his breathing. I just did a bit of research online and found the the respitory rate of a newborn born from a diabetic mother can be higher and I am wondering now if this is why. I just can't remember the others doing it.

DAMN TONY, I thought it was cute till he started being concerned now I can't wash it from my mind. :gah: :crazy:

I'm not a doctor either, but it doesn't sound like anything to me. He is too darn cute, Deb! I forgot what babies look like when they're sleeping! :love3:

I can see why you'd be concerned~ after three boys you'd think you'd have been through everything and now this baby does something totally different! But I think it's ok too. It made me think of REM sleep vs. non-REM sleep.

I can't believe he's 10 days old already. And he's adorable!

Deb, do you have any tape of him doing the fast breathing when he's awake?

Austin was asthmatic and as far as I can remember, they don't sound the same. When Austin had RSV and then further incidents to lead to the asthma, I could hear him clear in the next room. Watch his ribs, see if he is pulling in when he is breathing.

To me, it just sounds like he is dreaming and moaning in his dreams. :dunno:

ETA: I should say he makes the same moan while BFing

I don't have any footage of the fast breathing, but I can definately get some tomorrow. When he is doing the fast breathing, his chest movements are dramatic, and he really sucks in, but fast, then after about 11 or so pants it kind of halts for a few seconds does a little jolt then starts up again. It's weird. I totally feel like I am over analysing it, but as Cami said, it's something different that I am not used to and I don't want to regret not picking up on something, if there is a problem. :shuffle:


It's probably nothing, his colour is fine and I would think if there was a problem with oxygen his colour would be off. I did try to call kidsnet to ask them if it was normal but I was on hold for so long and then I started to feel stupid and hung up. I am in this conflict of being an experienced mother so thinking I should know better and concerned thinking I know everything will stop me from picking up on a problem if there is one :crazy: MAN can these post partum hormones mess you up or what!!!!

I am going to try and stop letting my mind create something out of nothing, and see how he goes in the morning, this could be just the way the little guy breathes. I also keep telling myself that it was just 6 days ago that the pediatrician listened to his breathing and gave him a clean bill of health to be released from the hospital so surely he would have heard something if there was a problem... right.

Ack. Ok. I am going to shut up now, I sound like a totally neurotic first time mother.

I just found this
Frequently, new parents become concerned about their newborn's breathing pattern, particularly with the increased attention that sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) has received in recent years. But rest assured that it's normal for young infants to breathe somewhat irregularly.

When an infant is awake, his or her breathing rate may vary widely, sometimes exceeding 60 breaths per minute, particularly when the little one is excited or following a bout of crying. Newborns will also commonly have periods during which they stop breathing for about 5 to 10 seconds and then start up again on their own. This is known as periodic breathing, which is more likely to occur during sleep and is considered very normal. However, it's considered an emergency and you should contact your child's doctor immediately or go to the emergency room, if your infant turns blue or stops breathing for longer stretches of time.

Although talking won't come until much later, your newborn will produce a symphony of noises — especially high-pitched squeaks — in addition to the obligatory crying. Sneezing and hiccups also occur very frequently and don't indicate infection, allergies, or digestive problems in newborns.

Does that sound like it?

I also found this:
http://www.the-aps.org/press/journal/04/26.htm

Melissa: That does sound like it. Although he does do the rapid panting while sleeping as well, it's not just when he is awake. I find he will do the rapid pant, then after a while he takes over with the moaning which slows down his breathing. Now that I have read that article you posted it seems the 'sighing' or what I call moaning is a mechanism used to regulate breathing which totally makes sense.

I do feel better after reading that. Although I do question why he needs to regulate his breathing so much :crazy:

Thanks for finding that :aok:

I find he will do the rapid pant, then after a while he takes over with the moaning which slows down his breathing.
This sounds exactly like my Jacob when he was a newborn. :nod:

:phew: Thanks, that5 is so reasurring. I am feeling better about it today. Thanks for calming a neurotic mother's mind :crazy:

Deb, add a Beavis/Butthead style chortle and that was Cole for the first wee while!

:love:And OMG gorgeous! I can't believe I have to wait 3 months to cuddle that little bundle!!

damn...uterus....aching....

He is SOOOO cute!

It does sound like a normal baby thing to me too. When is his next appt? Heather breathed quickly when she was born and we asked the nurses about it, but they dismissed it as nothing. Later, we found out that she had a heart murmur and a PDA - Patent Ductus Arteriosis. It is a valve in the heart that is supposed to close at birth, but hers didn't close all the way. It wasn't life-threatening, but they did have to fix it through a catheter up into the heart (not open heart). Anyway, I'm not trying to scare you because I bet it's just baby stuff. But, it's something I might mention at your next appointment.

:lol: Jo. Same sentiments to me squeezes your bubblets cheeks!! it can't come fast enough!

Brandi: I have a home visit from the clinic nurse in the next week or so, I am waiting for them to call with the time, then his next appt is at his regular 6 week check up. I will ask the clinic nurse when she comes over what she thinks of it.