Here's the new thread. I posted this quickly, but I would appreciate suggestions on a better name for this thread. I feel like when you put "positive" and "infertlity" in the same sentence, it's cancels each other out. That's just my own opionion. If anyone has something wittier (and my mind is squash right now) please let me know.

Our purpose here is to gather information in order to help us along on our journeys, be a comfort to one another in bad times, and to rejoice for all the happy and positive moments, holding in our hearts, that the same joy will come to us by birth or adoption.

Kim

Great new thread title Kimberly! Thanks for starting this.
I love the pics you posted in the last thread. You look relaxed and happy!
Judy - Welcome back! I was wondering where you had disappeared.

Here's my deal. I went to a regular ob/gyn who basically gave me a prescription for provera and told me to go back to my RE. He wouldn't even consider metformin for now. Oh well. My DH and I are figuring out health insurance stuff (it's a bit complicated because I'm changing jobs but taking a month off in between, etc.). We're hoping to get it sorted out so I'll have IF coverage during the month I'm off. That way we can go back to my RE and get started. I think we'll probably do injectibles with IUI but we'll see what the RE says. I'd say that we're looking at an early July RE appt and maybe a July or August cycle. :dunno:

Amanda

I like the new name!

I am here to offer any support I can. Good luck to all of you ladies!! I pray that your dreams all come true!

Here and subbing. This is a tough one to name defintely. Maybe TTC with Support and Medical help? that sounds so awkward though. I'll try to think of something positive..in search of the BFP? Probably not descriptive enough.. We'll get it eventually

Signing up to support all you ladies! :hug99:

Thanks you'll for coming by to support us! :grouphugg:

I actually don't like the name I gave to this thread and gave it hastily. Let's keep brainstorming.

Where I'm at right now is that my donor has done all her testing and the results should have been in about a week ago. I called the clinic to see what was going on and was told that another Dr. needed to check everything out before it's a go and that he'd be in on Thursday. :yawn: I let them know simply and nicely that I was eager to go on with this cycle and figure out when everything will take place. I didn't think that was too much to ask. :biggrin:

Kim

I'm too tired to think up a good title! :lol:
Sorry for yet another delay Kim. Hope things are ready to go soon!!!
Should we do another intro since we have lots of new visitors/cheering section? What do y'all think?

Amanda

OY, they work at a snails pace, Kim :hug99: I am so sorry they can realise they are dealing with emotions here!!! Hopefully they pull their finger out and you get an answer soon :hug99:

Good luck Kim! I hope they sort themselves out quickly! You'd think that the "waiting" gets easier as you get use to the ttc game, but boy, it's just the opposite!!!

Good idea about the intro's. I'll start.

I'm Judy, we've been doing IF treatments since 2004, first clomid IUI's, then 3 IUI's with injectable meds (IUI is where they 'wash' the sperm, pick the best ones and put them right inside the uterus in the hopes that it will help sperm and egg meet) None of ours were sucessful however and we moved onto IVF in 2005. Our first cycle was a BFN even though everything looked good and left us scared that this would never happen. None the less, we tried again and were fortunate to become pregnant with 2 boys. Sadly, I went into premature labor suspected to be caused by IC (incompetent cervix) and lost the babies at 23 weeks. :( Seems that in a way their loss has given me a renewed determination to see this suceed though and we did 2 frozen cycles iwith single frozen embryos in 2006, the first was BFN and the second a BFP though at the u/s there was no heartbeat :(. We picked ourselves back up and did a fresh cycle with a single embryo in Feb/March which was also a BFN and now are in the midst of another cycle. Our goal is still to avoid a multiple pregnancy so we are aiming for a 5 day transfer which in theory allows the embryologist to pick the strongest one and will increase our odds of sucess.

*whew* longer than I intended.

So regarding our current cycle, it looks like we will be triggering tomorrow Monday. I have a blood test in the am just to confirm my E2 is in the right range (as of today it was 1014) This is a new protocal for us with a slower stimulation which I hope will yield better results! We also have a bit of pressure I am trying to ignore...this is the last cycle our insurance will cover. But we recognize that we are fortunate to live in a state with coverage at all and we will do what we need to do. I am just very anxious to move ahead in building our family and have a take home baby.

ETA...I still have no great ideas for a title maybe something simple as IF Support? Or "I know my BFP is out there..."

I like the idea of intro's. That way I have an idea of where you ladies are all coming from. Not that my support will be different but then I can go through the emotions with you.

So just a quick update, I'm in the thick of it now, Retreival was Wed, they got 15 eggs no word yet on how many were mature or fertalized. We will get a call today on that - again we are hoping to go to day 5 which would be Monday.

FIngers crossed Judy!!!! I hope you have a great fert report.

Amanda

My intro:

I'm Amanda, age 35. My DH is Tom, age 38. I've known since college that I would have IF issues. My mother had female-factor infertility and took pergonal (injectible fertility drug) before it was approved by the FDA. I don't ovulate on my own. I'm lucky enough to have 2 beautiful children thanks to the miracles of modern medicine. Nathaniel was conceived after 7 cycles of clomid, 1 cycle of injectibles with IUI, laparoscopic surgery to remove a dermoid from my right ovary (with a major post-op bleed), a cancelled cycle of injectibles due to hyperstim, and finally a successful IVF. After he was born we did a FET cycle. Unfortunately our embryos didn't survive the thaw very well. We ended up transferring two 2-celled embryos. Surprisingly I still got a BFP but my numbers never went up and it was a chemical pregnancy. We then tried another clomid cycle (which failed) and finally a femara + injectibles + IUI cycle. I got pregnant with twins but lost twin A around 10 weeks. Now we've been trying for 7 months on our own. We should be returning to the RE over the summer to start "really" trying for #3.

Amanda

Good luck Judy!! :crossfing

Lots of luck Judy!!!! :hug:


Amanda, what a battle. I hope that you get #3 soon and without much work!

Here for support, ladies! =)

Ok so a quick update copied from another site

Ok so results are in and well they aren't fabulous - they aren't horrible either though, we have 5 embryos developing now. But..here's what complicates things, they want to have 6 to go to day 5. So we are doing a 3dt tomorrow. Now nothing at all wrong with a 3dt after all that is how I got pregnant before right? but Chuck asked what about 2? yikes. I just don't think I can put back 2 http://baby.ourlittleuniverse.com/images/smilies/mope.gif my anxiety level is too high about it. Shit I have anxiety when I hear someone is pregnant with twins...I can't risk that. But the flipside is it really decreases our chances...


And an update to that..I think the decision for me is to keep going with one and we need to be positive :roseglass we have 5 embryos dividing away in a lab and we will have them pick the best for transfer tomorrow.

:hug99: Good luck, Judy. Your story is tragic and I think it's amazing you are still so positive! I am sending you positive vibes for this transfer and that you get your wish :hug99:

You know I'm thinking of you and your embryos!

Amanda

Good luck Judy!!

Positive thoughts coming your way!

Oh Judy, I am just catching up on updates...

I am thinking many, many good thoughts for you!!

How did it go, Judy? I hope it all went well :hug99:

It went well thanks for asking!

We transfered one beautiful embryo and the other 4 were still developing away so that was something I took as a good sign. I have been taking it easy the last few days and will try to remain as calm as I can until I test on 6/7

Sticky, sticky thoughts for the little embryo!

Amanda

I don't know if you transferred today but today is the anniversary of my transfer with Sam and Amelia! Wishing you a mid February baby! :crossfing

Sending a tonne of sticky thoughts :hug99: I hope this is IT!

I've been out of the loop. :duh: As always, I've been so busy. I've been checking in though. :thumbsup:

Judy~I'm so happy for you. I'm praying :pray: and wishing :crossfing all the best. :kiss:


I've neglected to post my IF story. . .but I will. . .and it's f'ing long. :rolleyes: Anyway, what going on right now is that I'm waiting for AF and then I'll be able to go on BCP and then we can all figure out the timing of this cycle. I've had several disputes and issues through the weeks due to bills that weren't "supposedly paid" but were and etc. and etc. Anyway, I expect AF to come within a week, so as usual, I'm just waiting around until then.

Again Judy :crossfing :bighug: :kiss: :thumbsup:

Kim

Good luck Judy... I hope that everything goes great!

:vibes:

Fingers crossed Judy.
Sorry about the billing issues Kim. We've dealt with that over and over again.
It looks like I'll have IF coverage again come July. We're trying to get an appt to see my RE...

Amanda

Oh Judy I pray that this is your lucky embryo and come February you have a beautiful child in your arms. :pray:

Hi everyone~~

Good luck Judy, I'm thinking of you and praying for you.:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Well, as you know my name is Jennifer. I'm 37, DH is 34. We've ben TTC for 5 years. It all started with an HSG that showed I had a hydrosalpinx (blocked tube filled with embryo toxic fluid) on the left side. It was removed. DH and I did 2 rounds of clomid with injectibles, then 4 IUIs with no success. Given my age I didn't want to waste anymore time on IUIs so we proceeded to IVF.
It turned out to be a very painful disaster on many levels. RE retrieved 8 beautiful eggs, non of which fertilized. The worst part for me was that we paid and signed off for ICSI but RE chose not to do it because my eggs were over 20 hours of maturity!!! WTF...IMO I think RE should have done it anyhow, we had already spent $13,000, what was another $1700?? RE stated DHs sperm was "beautiful" and there was no given reason to do the ICSI...BS!!!!
In any case we got nothing.
So now, it's a new year, I have a new RE, who I adore. We have done some extensive testing on DHs sperm and on my egg quality. Turns out DH has some "Binding" issues. This test cost $400. Why the first RE didn't offer it in the first place is beyond me. My egg quality is good.
I did another HSG, which showed my right tube was blocked. RE performed a lap, and to my gratefulness did not have to remove it. It was a false positive!!! Whew! Now I still have a chance for a miracle baby on my own.
Friday is my post-op follow up and hopefully we will have a timeline as to when we will start our next cycle. I'm thinking end of August.
This office automatically does the ICSI, so we are very optimistic. Now, I am trying to figure out where the money is going to come from.:rolleyes: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Thanks for listening.

Jennifer

Wow Jennifer! I hope the new RE brings you lots of success.

Amanda

Good luck Jennifer. I have a question. What is ICSI?

Good luck, Jennifer.

Is ICSI where they inject the sperm straight into the egg? or am I way off base?

Is ICSI where they inject the sperm straight into the egg? or am I way off base?

You are correct. ICSI stands for Intra-Cytoplastmic Sperm Injection. A single sperm is injected directly into an egg. ICSI is great technology, especially for people with severe male factor infertility (where there are very, very few sperm) or someone like Jennifer where the sperm aren't fertilizing the eggs. The downside to ICSI is that there is no "natural selection." Even in regular IVF the "best" sperm end up being the ones who fertilize the eggs. In ICSI the sperm are "randomly" chosen (obviously the sperm that look healthy and normal are picked).


Amanda

Thank you for that information. Wow I never realized how much you ladies actually have to go through to have a baby. :hug99: I hope each of you are blessed soon!

Ok I saw Amanda's profile line so I run over here to read the good news and I don't see it!!!! Judy: Is it true???? :yippee:

Ok I saw Amanda's profile line so I run over here to read the good news and I don't see it!!!! Judy: Is it true???? :yippee:


Me too!! Is it true???????? :gimi:

:popcorn: :yippee:

Me too! Come let us know!!!

She hasn't had her blood test results yet but got a +++++ on an HPT this am!!!! (Not to steal Judy's thunder.)

Amanda

Oh my gosh Judy!!!!

:wow:

A BFP is even better news when it's coming from this forum!!!!!

Judy's blood test was good, too!!!

Amanda

:woo: Congratulations, Judy!!! :yippee:

congratulations Judy! Happy tears!

Judy I am soo happy for you!!!! Congratulations!!!! :bighug: :woo: :yippee:

:lol: you guys are quick! Yes its true!!!!! I'm thrilled and I'm hoping for a very sticky baby.


Thank you for posting Amanda!!!

I go for my follow up beta on Saturday so hopefully all numbers are doubling!!

There's the pregnant girl herself!!!! HOORAY!

Amanda

:cheer: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):cheer: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):cheer: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Yea 4 Judy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jennifer:wavey: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Oh my!! Congratulations, Judy!!! How very exciting!!!! :bliss:

:rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

There isn't enough rahrah girls to ever express the excitement!!!

CONGRATS JUDY! that is wonderful news. I am hoping for a sticky sticky sticky baby and a happy and healthy 9 months!!!

So, just to ask. Becaue of your cervix do they have to stitch it up this time during pregnancy?

:woo: Congratulations Judy!!!!!

So, just to ask. Becaue of your cervix do they have to stitch it up this time during pregnancy?

Yes, :nod: the diagnosis of incompetent cervix (isn't that a pathetic thing to call it?) is evidently technically only given after 2 separate pregnancy losses - crazy huh? But I shopped around before begining IVF again to find a Maternal Fetal Medicine Specialist who would agree to do the preventative cerclage (stitch) around 12 weeks. I will also be on an injection weekly called P17 which is a blend of progesterone and ?? that has been shown to prevent PTL. It may be overkill but I don't want to take any chances!!!

And thank you all so much - I am hoping that this BFP is the start of many in this thread!!

Wow, that is crazy. I can't believe they expect a woman to lose 2 children before they will diagnose! I am glad that you found someone who is willing to take the precautions so it won't happen again.

This is very exciting! :hug99:

Congratulations Judy!!! :cheer: :vibes: for a sticky baby!

Judy I am just over the moon excited for you!!! I am just sitting here at my desk :bawl: in happiness for you. :pray: for a sticky baby and a happy healthy nine months!!! :hug99: Congratulations again!!!

YAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOO! :bliss: :clap: :rahrah: :jump: :cheer: :banana: :yippee: :bighug: :bfp: :knitting:

I don't know what else to say? I'm just happy as hell for you. :bliss:


:justahug:

Kim

Wow! Congratulations, Judy!! :cheer: :ura1: Sticky vibes!

Congrats, Judy! :woo:

Hi everyone~~

DH & I have a cycle date start of Aug 2nd!!! I am very excited and happy. Just a little overwhelmed about the money. We are going over every reasonable avenue (& some not so reasonable) on ways to pay for the treatment.......ugggghhhhhh. Once we figure it out, the weight will be lifted and I'll be able to concentrate solely on the cycle and my baby:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#).

Judy~~I hope this BFP continues...........lead the way!!

That's exciting Jennifer!
Judy - Fingers crossed for your beta tomorrow!!!

Amanda

Congrats, Judy! :cheer:

Good luck, Jennifer!

Congrats Judy! I'm so happy for you! Sticky Sticky Embie prayers! HH9M2U!:bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: Just lurking when I saw this thread and have tears of joy for you Girl!

Jen-The cost is out to lunch! At VFC in Victoria where I went Dr. H is doing a pilot IVF program for more econimical drugs and procedures for women who meet the criteria (30-35 non smoker) so I'm hoping next year we can go that route when we do it again and save at least 4500. Good Luck with your upcoming cycle!

Congrats on having a date set, Jennifer! I hope this is it for you and that you can sort out the money side of things. :hug99:

Judy~~I hope this BFP continues...........lead the way!!

Ditto!

Jen~ I totally empathize with you about being overwhelmed with the money aspects. DH and I had to do the same. . .sit down and figure out what to cut in our expenses, where to pull money from, etc. We actually took out a loan!
Isn't so nice actually having a date set? It's like "you're back in business" :banana:

Speaking of which. . .I started BCP and so it looks like a retrieval/transfer somewhere around July 17- July 21. :pray:

Kim

Kim - I'm so excited for you!

Judy's beta went up but it didn't double so things aren't perfect yet. We all need to keep sending sticky, sticky thoughts. She's having a repeat blood test on Tuesday.

Amanda

:crossfing Doubling vibes for Judy! :vibes:

Best of luck to you, Jennifer and Kim! :crossfing

:rahrah: Kim! That is so exciting!!!!

A tonne of positive thoughts your way Judy :hug99: I hope that your numbers do what they are supposed to do!

Thinking tons of good thoughts for both of you :crossfing

Judy!:pray: :crossfing :vibes: I'm sending it all out there for you.

:heart: Kim

Thanks you guys and thanks for posting the update Amanda! I was a little too stunned yesterday to remember to do it. All doubling beta vibes are welcome I am really hoping this is just a small glitch and I will get better news on Tuesday :crossfing

Jennifer - great news on having a date set!!! :woo: I hope that you guys can work out the finances soon so you can just look forward to the cycle

Kim :woo:BCP!!!!! Excellent!!!

I really hope all your numbers go up on Tuesday Judy :hug99:

Judy...sticky sticky vibes and here's hoping that it was just a glitch, like you said... :pray: that your numbers will be up by Tuesday.... :hug99:

:hug99: Judy, my thoughts are with you.

Fingers crossed and praying Judy! Really praying hard :pray:.

Judy- I'm sending sticky, sticky number doubling vibes your way!

Jen-Congrats on being "back in business". I know the money thing is frustrating and overwhelming, but when you are holding your baby in your arms it will all be SO worth it. (We are in debt up to our ears from our IVF and adoption expenses, but when I look at my little guy, I know that we'll all be A-OK)

Kim-So excited for you. Your strength and perserverance is amazing. You are going to be such a wonderful mom!

Kristen

Thinking of you and praying for you Judy!!!

:pray: for doubling numbers on Tuesday!!!!

Good luck today, Judy :hug99:

Thinking of you today Judy!

Amanda

:crossfing for you Judy!

Thinking of you Judy and :pray: that your numbers double!

Thinking of you today, Judy! :crossfing :vibes: Sending as many doubling beta vibes as I can!

Thank you all for all the vibes they are much appreciated. I did get the news..It is sort of inconclusive but its not negative...

Beta was 235 so in 3 days it did double at just about the rate it increased before. However, they ideally want it to double in 2 days but she basically said its too early to tell anything.

And most of what I find on line says 2-3 days is the correct range. I will go back Friday. I wish I could just get a straight answer if it was 2 days or 2-3 days that was expected...I think I have too much information :sigh:

So here's what I have

6/7/07 HCG 72.3
6/9/07 HCG 117 - doubling time 69.12 rate of 1.27 per day
6/12/07 HCG 235 - doubling time 71.56 rate of 1.26 per day

I'm glad the news is not negative, Judy!!! I know Friday can't get here fast enough...but it sounds like the little one is doing just fine :) Sounds like he/she wants to be different from everybody else from the start, eh? I hope things continue to go well..........
:hug99:

Gosh Judy~~~. .to the heavens and the Universe. . .:bullhorn: "Can't this just be simple? Double embies, double! " :pray:
:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing

:heart: Kim

Well that is not bad news, so I am going to cheer :rahrah:

I just wish they would give you a straight answer, I am sorry this is stressful, but hopefully by Friday the embie will do what it's meant to and will get them off your back :hug99: Good luck!

Sorry things aren't more conclusive. I'm still thinking sticky vibes!

Amanda

Sorry you aren't getting a straight answer but it's still good news!! :pray: that the numbers jump way up on Friday!!! :hug99: Hang in there girl!!

Judy~~
Sticky~~Sticky~~~Sticky~~ Double, Double, Triple..........:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
Jennifer

Good luck today, Judy! I am thinking doubling vibes for you :hug99:

So Friday finally arrived Judy!! Best of luck! Hope the results are more than excellent!!

Just stopping by to wish you double luck!!:pray: I hope you get a conclusive answer today and it's good!!

GOOD LUCK Judy!

Amanda

Thinking of you, Judy............. :pray:

Good luck, Judy :crossfing

Good luck Judy.

Well here's the deal...positive thinking does nothing.

Levels dropped to 121 and they said this is not a viable pregnancy

I'm actually just numb.

Thank you all for the positive thoughts

I'm so sorry, Judy :hug99:

Oh no, I am so sorry, Judy. :( :sadhug:

Crap.

Amanda

That just sucks!! I am so sorry. :hug99:

Judy I am truly sorry. :(

Oh Judy. I'm so so very sorry :bawl:

I am so sorry. :hug99:

:hug99: I am so very sorry :hug99:

Thank you all very much. You know I wanted to just say how much I appreciate the support I've been the recipient of on these boards. You have all been cheerleaders and support people. I just really appreciate it.

I'm so, so sorry Judy. :( I know there just aren't any words. :hug99:

:hug99: it's so unfair!!!

Lots of :hug99: Judy!!!

:tear: :sadhug:


Kim

No no no! :banghead: I am so sorry!

Just checking in to see how you're doing Judy???

Hi all and thank you for the continued support. Emotionally I'm a basketcase still but it is getting better. Had my follow up with the Dr and he thought we should keep going, maybe add PGD to the mix. Its a process where they remove 1 cell of the embryo and test the DNA to see if chromosomally it is normal. Not sure where I sit with that right now as we are out of insurance $ and that is obviously and additional cost and requires that the enbryos make it to 5 days which we didn't have great luck with in the cycle before this one. But I have time to think about it and about some other options like maybe looking at doner egg etc. So a lot swimming around in my head these days.

Kim Jennifer and Amanda how are you guys doing?

Judy~I can only imagine how many thoughts have been going through your head these past days. :hug99: It's such an enormous burden to bear. .the combination of doing everything you can emotionally to talk yourself out of the darkness and then have to think logically about how to go on from there. :hairpull: Please know that I've been thinking about you and wishing you well in getting through this. :bighug:

There was a woman in this thread named Pam who did PGD and had a successful pregnancy. I remember her saying that she was so glad she did it because they transferred an embryo that they may have not transferred had she not done the PGD. I always wished I did it, but I too, ran out of coverage when I really thought about it. Of course, if you need to discuss anything about donor egg, I'm your girl! :kiss:

Speaking of which, I'm happy to say that I've started the Lupron. I guess now that I'm doing shots, I feel like I'm finally in the midst of this long awaited cycle. Estimated retrieval (for donor) and transfer (for me) is still slated for somewhere around the 3rd week of July. :pray: In the meantime, I've started to do my meditations and added acupuncture back into my regime in hopes that the Universe will hear and answer my prayers.

Kim

Wow Judy. I've given my thoughts to you elsewhere but I'm thinking of you. Sarah also did PGD and most of her embryos had trisomoy. I know they transferred the non-affected embryos and she has a healthy baby.
Kim - That's great that things are moving forward. You must feel both good about the progress and anxious. I'm thinking of you alot and hoping that this is a successful cycle for you!
No news from me! I have an appt with the RE on 7/3 and then we'll see....

Amanda

Good luck Judy with all the decisions! Amanda is right. Life is just SO unfair!!

Kim: glad things are moving along!! All the best to you...

Judy :hug99: I am so sorry that you are lumped with this burden of decisions.

Kim: I am so excited that this cycle is in full swing and you are heading towards the 3rd week of July. I am thinking nothing but positive thoughts for you :hug99:

O Judy~~~WTF~~~~No words......Just hugs for you :sadhug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):sadhug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):sadhug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):consoling (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) EFF...EFFFF....EFFFF!!!

We are still working on the money. I need to get it by the end of July so I'm starting to sweat a lotta bit. We'll see, we have options.
I'm thinking of just dropping all this :bs: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) That is a very real thought to me right now, although I haven't told DH yet. I've just been discussing it with myself. Ho-hum...I just don't know.

Jennifer

Jennifer :hug99:having to finance these steps makes this process so much more painful. I'm sorry that you're going through this now and hope that it does come together for you and before July. Fingers are crossed for you! Keep us posted. I have wondered if I need to hang it up recently too and its a very discouraging place to be.


Kim - very excited for your lupron start! Thank you for everything and the chat the other night. It really did help me.

Amanda 7/3 is coming fast!!

Just checking in with everyone. My head is still spinning with next steps and if I am fooling myself. I think it will just take time to sort this all out. I tend to think that PGD may not be the route we do simply the $$ and the experience we had with 5 day embies last time, we wound up with 1 good one to transfer..and it end up not sticking. I must admit, I wonder if day 3 just works better for some people, me included? Though on the flip side the 2 pregnancies after the boys with day 3 did wind up to not be viable so..yeah no idea what that really tells us. Wouldn't it be nice if medicine really was more exact? :sigh: I mean truely it does some absolutely amazing things but there are so many questions too.

Jen~:scratch: gosh, I really hated (still hate) even having to realistically think those thoughts. This all just stinks! :furious: If you do drop all this, what are you thoughts around it? Not having kids? Adopting? Just wondering.

Amanda~Very true, July 3rd is just around the corner :crossfing

Judy~I enjoyed our conversation as well. . .call anytime. You're so right about medicine, while I know that we are lucky to be able to do things a woman couldn't do 30 yrs ago, I always wish there were more. I remember wishing and imagining the clinic would just insert a special camera inside of me so we could just find out what the hell is going on in there. :giggle: Judy, check your PM.

In addition to starting the Lupron, DH and I completed our required 8 weeks of classes in order to become "certified" to become a pre-adoptive family (with the hopes of adopting) through the Mass. Social Services. We still have to fill out some more paperwork and have a home study done, but it still feels so close. Additionally, I feel more secure knowing that if things don't work it this next DE cycle (and I'm damn sure giving it all I've got!), that we can still have a family in the end.

Kim

Jen: I am sorry those are the thoughts going through your mind, it just totally stinks!! :hug99:

Judy: I am glad you are getting the support you need to get through this and I hope you can come to a decision soon as to what to do with the next attempt.

Kim: I am so thrilled to hear that things are on track that one way or another you are going to have your family! My fingers are crossed so tightly for you!

Good luck Kim!!! I hope this cycle works out great for you.

Jen: I am so sorry that you are banging your head agains the proverbial wall. I don't have any wise words to help you through your decision but I do have plenty of :justahug: and :pray: coming your way.

Hi everyone~~

Thanks for your support concerning the finances.......We are considering a home equity loan or just a flat out loan from Capital One....they do fertility loans. We shall see. Sometimes I wish I has a financial advisor to quide me in the right direction. I don't want to be in financial ruins. But maybe that's just what it'll take to get the dream!?

Kim~~Adoption for me right now......well, I'm not quite there yet. I'm trying to get the gold, a biological baby with my husband whom I love dearly. Of course, adoption is the first thing people want to say to me when I tell them we have fertility issues.:whistle: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
However, I am very inspired by you starting your process and having plan B if plan A doesn't work out. That's great!! Very admirable. Of course I am rooting for you. Your experience may just open doors for me.

Judy~~Did you do PGD this last time?? I spoke with someone today who didn't know my position w/ fertility only to learn she had gone through IVF and now has 1 yr old twins. Of course I prodded and learned that she had done the PGD due to her 3 previous miscarriages. They retrieved 5 eggs, did PGD, 3 had chromosomal abnormalties, implanted the 2 that were good. She said PGD worked for her.
Maybe it's a good idea???
Thanks again everyone for your continued support which is much needed and appreciated.

Jennifer

Judy~~

I just went back through the thread and I read that your RE suggeted the PGD. Honestly, I was truely inspired by the woman today who informed me that she did the PGD and it worked. Yes, it's more money and no insurance doesn't cover it. I can't remember if your insurance does or not, the point is.....it's another road that seems to be before you and before you try donors and go that route maybe it seems worth a shot.
Jennifer

Does this support group not exist? Probably, only if your insurance covers it.

Jennifer sorry I was just in my emails and saw links to your posts. Interesting and positive about the woman that did PGD. I have heard that what the embies look like don't 'look' perfect often are...I'm a bit nervous about it simply because we only had 1 of 6 embies make it to day 5 well 2 honestly but 1 didn't have the inner cell mass...anyway, I don't know what that means scientifically but I wonder if embryos that might have been fine simply didn't make it in the lab? Who knows really..

I have the info from Cap One too on the financing. Been looking it over, its of course frustrating to worry about financing something that should be as easy as a bottle of wine and some 'fun' :sigh: But if all works out of course very worth it in the end. I hope that some decisions on the financing have come together for you. Please update!

Kim, the book arrived today! Thank you! I haven't yet begun to read it but I really appreciate it!!

It's funny because we had thought about going to blast on our IVF but something didn't look right and we transferred on day 3. My son is now 3. Those same embryos didn't survive thawing. Who knows how they would have done in the lab??? There's a huge part of embryo survival, both in and out of the uterus, that science doesn't yet understand!

Amanda

Sorry I haven't been more actively supportive here. We're in the middle of a disaster move from hell and my internet time is limited!
Once I'm more settled I'll be here more. Especially since we'll be getting ready to start a cycle soon....

Amanda

I've been absent as well for a few days. :hide: I've been trying to get caught up with work so that I can have a few days off! We're headed to Vermont this morning to go camping with friends. I got AF yesterday and so I will start the estrogen this morning. I'm still on the lupron, so my shots have been packed to come along with us camping. :sigh: I don't want my shots to get in the way of anything and I don't want to be discussing it (although my friend knows that we're getting ready for a DE cycle). So, I've got to figure out how to hide this while we're camping. I'll be back on Monday.

Judy~Happy reading.


Kim

There's no question Amanda that there is so much that isn't known. DH often jokes that if he had it to do over again he'd be an RE (course he'd have had to do a whole heck of a lot better in Math and Science :lol:) but just that there is so much that isn't known you can honestly say "hmmm lets try something else" and when you suceed, everyone is over the moon! That is not at all to sound glib about Dr's. I know its a lot of work and an extremely dedicated profession. There are so many things that just blow my mind.

Kim, how'd the trip go? I'm guessing that you are coming up on an u/s soon? Any reports on the donor's progress?

Jennifer, I hope you are still around, sorry again that I didn't respond earlier. If you can pop in and give us an update.

Hi Judy~~~~Thx

Yes, I am still here....I've been in Boston the last few days, now am home. We just received paperwork from the "Loan Specialist" not to be confused with the "Tax Man" LOL..Trying to put together all necessary paper work, signing here, faxing there........ you know......trying to put it all together. As soon as that happens I can "sigh" a sign of RELIEF.. of course, until the shots come and so on and so on....
I hope everyone is having a lovely summer.........

Happy Fourth of July................

Jennifer

Good luck, Kim. It's so exciting that transfer is drawing near!

Jennifer: I hope all the loan paperwork goes smoothly.

Amanda: How did your appointment at the RE go?

Judy - It's funny because I had an entertaining conversation with my RE about some research ideas. I was amazed that I knew some stuff that he didn't! I love what I do but I think I would have really liked being an RE, too.
Kim - I hope you enjoyed your camping trip. Shots and all!
Jennifer - Sorry about the financing crap. That sucks! I hope you get through it all and can move on.

My appt yesterday went well. My RE and I have known each other since 2002 so it was like a big reunion. I was getting hugs from all the office staff and nurses. It was so funny. Anyway my RE is totally on board with me trying injectibles with IUI for 2 cycles before moving on to IVF. I started provera last night to get AF and then we're starting!

Amanda

Jennifer How was Boston? I'm from MA, if I'd known you were in the area we could have had a chat :)

Amanda very exciting that the apt went so well and he is on board with your plan!!

Judy~ Boston was awesome...I found the perfect dress for my 20th High School reunion @ Filenes for $33.00. It was $280.00 @ Macy's in Miami....go figure!! Next time I'm in town I will let you know.

We got approved for the loan......YIPPEE!!!!! 15 yrs, but as they say "it'll be worth it" Now we are just trying to get the annual pap done and sign the consent forms, then August 2nd should start meds. The world has been lifted off my shoulders.

Kim~How did the camping and the shots go???

Amanda~~ Fingers crosssed for you

Glad the loan was approved Jennifer! Great find on the dress, too.

Amanda

:woo: Jen! Congrats on the loan!

Total score Jennifer! Very glad all is ok with the loan :nod: Yes definitely let me know when you are going to be in town next!

Judy, how are you?

Kim, are you still looking at a transfer date of the 17th?

Just wanted you ladies to know I am thinking of you...

Hey ladies! Just checking in to see how all of you are doing???

Keep us updated okay!!

Jen that is awesome both on the loan and the dress score!! :woo:

I'm here I was coming by to get an update on Kim...:whistle: no pressure :lol:


Things for me are better thanks for asking! We think our plan will be to do a frozen cycle or some frozen cycles to see if that does the trick. We have about 7 embryos cryopreserved. Not all make it through the defrost process though so there is no telling but we are looking for that magical one :)

When do you think you will do that Judy?

When would you do your FET Judy???

I'm CD 1 today!!!! Baseline tomorrow or Saturday and then I start menopur!

Amanda

Great news Amanda!!!

I can actually start the FET stuff with my next AF as long as we get our releases signed, notarized and returned to the clinic before it shows. I just don't know when to expect it!

Wow Judy!
Baseline was today. I also got my meds. Antral follicle count was 16. Waiting for the call-back with the blood work results. I always get a bit nervous waiting for the phone to ring. I figure it'll be something bad! Hopefully I can start the injections tomorrow night. He's being conservative with me and having me come back after 3 nights of injections instead of the usual 5 nights. I think that's because I have such unpredictible responses to the meds.

Amanda

thats a great antral count though Amanda!

FYI for anyone not doing IF treatments the count reflects the # of follicles that are getting ready by the ovaries to be developed.

Amanda feel free to correct me if that was wrong :)

I'm new the antral count because I don't remember them doing it when I was last trying. From my little bit of research you're exactly right Judy!
My FSH was 8 (normal) and estrogen was 25 (normal). I'm good to go. Injections start tomorrow night.

Amanda

Hmm...I have not heard of the antral count...I will go read about it. DF bought two books on IF and getting pg, both of which have been very helpful.

Amanda, my estrogen was something like 40. 25 is very good!! I read that estrogen levels on the lower end (like 25) tend to be better for stimulating, so it really does sound like you are all set.

I have a question. My cycles have been very light the last 8 months, lasting only a day or two. It's so light that I can't imagine my lining being adequate. Or maybe it's not all shedding? Has anyone else heard of such a thing? Is it really possible for your lining to be inadequate for implantation? Is there a test or diagnosis for your endometrium?

Kika, my cycles tend to be pretty light 2-3 days. They never thought that was an issue but its just the way they have always been. I would think though that if you wanted to check, you could request an u/s for lining thickness mid cycle, just around ovulation. For IVF/IUI they do measure this routinely.

Here to check up on Kim too :pace:


Amanda: how is it going??

Judy: Good luck trying the FET! Very exciting!

Kika, did you ever in your wildest dreams thought that you'd complain about having light cycles??? The irony of ttc!!!

Sorry I can't answer your question, but I would definitely bring it up whenever I see any kind of doctor...

I just wanted to post some hope to this forum..

My SIL just had her 2nd IVF cycle and today they found out that it's positive. They transferred 3 embies and doc said with her count, there may even be a chance that it's twins!

CONGRATS to your SIL Haydee!
Tonight is day 3 of injections. I have my first follie check and bloodwork tomorrow. I seem to either hyperstim or understim so I'm hoping for something in the middle! It's a bit early for my first u/s but they don't want to take any chances with me.

Amanda

Thanks Judy! I was wondering if there was a way to have your lining checked to see if you are building one that is adequate.

My cycles are 1-2 days, but 8 months ago they were 4-5 days. They seem to be getting shorter and shorter. Weird.

I can't believe my account had expired!! I didn't get any reminders. I went to post one day and was not allowed. Anyway, I'm back on. :didImiss: Hi. . .sorry to keep some of you in suspense.

I had a nice time camping although it was really cold. It was about 50 degrees Farenhiet! It was nice to be in the country though and since we were at a different camp site than my friends, we were able to find a reason to run back to do the shot. I returned from camping on a Monday and then basically started my next vacation (an In-Law visit) that same Thursday, so I rushed to unpack from the camping trip, re-pack for the In-Law visit, get the house cleaned for the dog sitter, and get work at my job done. So now I'm back and things are moving right along as far as my cycle is concerned.

I think the clinic called me almost everyday while I was on vacation. The donor flew into Boston on Thursday 7/12 and had her first U/S on Friday morning. She's doing wonderfully! :pray: Basically, her retrieval is tomorrow and I was told yesterday that she was showing 20 follicles. So tonight is my last night of Lupron and I start the Progestrone tomorrow. I'm trying the PIO again. Some of you might remember that during my last cycle, I couldn't hack the PIO and went to a suppository. I'm going to be brave this time. :crossfing. Kent goes to the clinic tomorrow of course to leave his "sample". Also, last minute, the morning we left for vacation, Kent was told to come in for an SA because his last one wasn't so great. He was just getting over a stomach flu when he went in this time and basically, it still was below what they wanted to see. So, we're doing ICSI this cycle, which is the first time we've done this. Also, the plan is to try blastocyst this cycle, but I guess I have to wait to find out embryo quality. So that's it! I will either have my transfer on Sat. 7/21 or Mon. 7/23. I can't believe it's finally here. I have been anxious of course, but I've been trying my best to stay calm and not stress out.

Jen~We did this donor cycle with both a home equity loan and credit cards. . .and we're hoping that this will have been all worth it. What the heck, you know? We're always going to owe money for some damn reason or another. I'm so glad you were approved. :yippee: The next time you're in Boston, look me up too! :)

Amanda~This is so exciting! It seems like it all moved right along so quickly for you this past week. Uh-hem, they know me well at my clinic too :rolleyes: . . .except I get a little self conscious that EVERYONE knows my name. :hide: I'm wishing you all the best. :bighug:

Judy~I had forgotten that you had some frozen embies. When do you think you'll be doing the transfer?

Kika~My periods are very light and short as well. They have always been. From the time that I started this whole IF thing, it seemed like none of my REs were too concerned. . .even though I kept thinking it would be a problem. When I started doing acupuncture however, I did get asked about my periods every visit and she worked with me to increase my blood flow. The acupuncture and dietary changes really did help. If you're doing a medicated cycle however, your lining should and would usually be checked. . . and you'd be given progestrone, which would help to support your lining whether or not your periods are light.

I promise I'll jump on again tomorrow after I get the donor's follie count.

Kim

Good luck Kim!!

They retrieved 42 eggs from my donor. :woo:

Kim

42 eggs? :yippee: Wow!

:bawl: Happy tears for you! Good luck!

Wow! that's double what you'd expected. :woo: Fingers crossed for your transfer. How many are you transferring?

42?!? :faint: So how many will they transfer, and will you freeze the others to try again (not that you'll have to- this time IT.WILL.WORK.)

That is awesome Kim!!! I hope you finally get your little one!!

Thanks so much! I'm just so psyched that she did so well. . .for me. :awink:

Tomorrow is when I'll find out how many fertilized. I think that how many they will transfer will depend on the quality of the embroyos that make it. So now I have to keep my fingers crossed for good fertilization results. :crossfing My guess is that they will transfer no more than 2 if they are of very high quality and 3 if they're mediocre. And yes, we will freeze whatever is available to freeze.

Kim

Wow Kim!!! 42 eggs is awesome. I hope the fert report is great and you have lots and lots of frosties!!!!

I posted this elsewhere but I'll add it here, too. My cycle isn't going great. I'm doing the same old, same old. I make lots of small follicles instead of a few big ones. Not a good thing. It puts me at risk for hyperstim and cycle cancellation. I guess I should back up a bit.... I started menopur on day 3. I took 2 vials per night for 3 nights (usually they do 5 nights but they wanted me back early). On CD 6 I had my first check. Lots of little follicles. The silver lining is that my E2 was only 79, which isn't too high. First the nurse called and said to do 2 more nights of 2 vials. An hour later my RE called himself. After talking to me, we decided to do only 1 vial per night for 2 nights. I'll go back on Thursday (CD 8) for a follicle check and bloodwork. Hopefully I'll start making a few dominant follicles and we'll lose the rest. That would be a good thing. Otherwise I'm not sure that this cycle will be a go....

Amanda

Oh Amanda :blue: I'm sorry to hear about how things are going with your cycle. How did it go today? There always has to be a bump in the road somewhere huh? :sigh: I hope the change in protocol has helped.

I got the fert report back and we have 29 embryos! :clap: There's still a question as to whether or not I'll be doing a 5 or 3-day transfer. They will call me tomorrow. I'm in good spirits, but I haven't necessarily relaxed yet. . . .unfortunately, I'm always keeping my eyes open for that :airquote: bump in the the road.

Thanks for sending me all those good wishes. They're sure to help right?

Kim

Great news for you Kim!
More so-so news for me. I had 3 "measurable" follicles (all about 8mm) but my estrogen dropped to 43. If it's not one thing..... They're increase my meds back up to 2 vials and I go back on Saturday. I'd honestly forgotten how difficult this is!

Amanda

Kim: Wow! 29 embryos is good!! Good luck!!

Amnada: I hope this is just a bump in the road and things start looking more positive. :hug99:

KIM!!!!!! :faint: :bighug: The next bump you have will be where your waistline used to be! :nod: BEST OF LUCK THIS WEEKEND!!!! EVERYTHING CROSSED!!!!! :crossfing

Sorry, Amanda. I wish things were going better... :hug99:

29 embryos Kim!! :bliss: Just don't get them all implanted at once.....you'll really be in the record books then. :giggle:

When do you go for it? :)

Kim: nothing but good wishes for you.

Amanda: you know we are always thinking of you. Keep us updated over the weekend, K?

:rahrah: Kim! that is AMAZING!!! I hope you get some really good mature embryos to put back in there and get you your daugther or son!! or both :awink: I am so excited, good luck! :hug99:

Amanda, good luck with everything.
When do you start your new job?

Kim, fingers crossed for your transfer.

Amanda~~:hug99: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) I have my fingers crossed for you.....

Kim~~:yippee: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)WOW...Holy SHI_!!!!!!!That is amazing! O , how you must be so excited! I amost fainted in the office when reminded of the PIO shots.....not looking forward to those, but of course, whatever it takes.

DH & I start Lupron on the 27th.......here goes EVERYTHING...........:grouphugg (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Wow!! It seems like everyone is out of limbo and fully fledged into the game!

Kim: you have a SUPER fertile donor! Her ovaries must feel like sh1t!:giggle:Are you freezing some?

Jen: Good luck - great to have something to look forward to!

Amanda: when is the final date that you will know whether this cycle is a go? Does upping and downing the meds dosage help to get the right number? All fingers crossed.

It's about time we get some bfp news from this forum! You're all a deserver bunch!

The next bump you have will be where your waistline used to be! :nod:

That's funny. :lol:

Thank you so much for all your well wishes!

I got some good news again today. My transfer will be on Monday 7/23. The clinic was waiting to check the fertilization before they decided whether it would be a 3 or 5 day transfer. As it turns out, the fertilization is going very well, so blastocyst it is!

Jen~Good luck! :crossfing :bighug: I'm actually not doing so great with the PIO. :blue: I'm going to keep going until I truly can't take it anymore. Since I'm freezing the area, I'm fine with the shots going in. The problem is the next day when I feel very bruised. There is no discoloration in the area, it just feels like I was voilently hit. . .which in turn causes discomfort when walking and sitting. I keep trying to make pretend I'm not in pain but. . .it's not always so easy.

Amanda~I'm glad things are still moving along. :clap:

Kim

Kim!!! :bliss: This is so exciting!! Wow sure sounds like the wait was for the right donor so far!!! I am praying SO hard for you!!


Amanda, I am sorry that the cycle is already a rollercoaster :hug: Hoping you get good news tomorrow. I'm hoping the E2 drop was just from the reduction in meds and the 3 follies are doing well. How many is your RE targeting for the IUI? 3 sounds just about right to me.

Jennifer - happy news you starting lupron soon!!

I have decided to give myself one more little break before the FET month, I think I'll take a cycle and just focus on exersizing and eating well and we'll probably do the FET in the end of August beginning of Sept.

:rahrah: Kim, I am so excited for Monday for you!!! I am so glad it's been all good news, I think it's definatley going to continue with this trend!! :aok:

I'm so happy that things are going well for you Kim. It's about friggin' time!!!! Thinking good thoughts for your embryos!
Judy - I've already told you this but I'm glad you're taking some time for yourself before proceeding.

I'm off to my next follicle/estrogen check.

Amanda

Judy I am glad you are taking some time for yourself. I am sure this has to be emotionally draining. :hug99:

Amanda:Good luck girl. I hope the numbers are favorable!!

Amanda: Thinking of you this morning...

What did your RE say Amanda???

Man I hope it's good news!!!!!

Kim~~
You said you were "Freezing" the area for the PIO shot. Is that to reduce the pain or to make it go in easier? My last cycle I only did one PIO shot, exactly one second later the RE called with the news that no eggs fertilized so obviously I didn't have to do any more. I will tell you though, that I had my neighbor give the shot as DH wasn't home. I gave her the wrong needle (the one to inject) to extract the oil and she gave the shot with the LARGE needle (the one to extract the oil) IT HURT SO BAD, for a loooooong time. There was just a hard blob, the medicine didn't go anywhere and stayed in that spot for months. Crazy. If you could give any advice on the best way to admin. Do you do the shots yourself????

Thx

Amanda hoping you get good news today!

Jennifer, I can help with some suggestions for the PIO, I have DH give the shots, and aim for the upper left area of the 'hip' (read butt) Like if you picture where your jean pockets are, the outer half of the pocket. The nurses will draw on your behind with a sharpie at my clinic :lol:, Anyway, we make sure the PIO is warm so it flows better then I usually just lay down on the floor on my stomach and DH gives the shot then massages the area afterwards to spread the oil out, you can also put a heating pad on it - this actually isn't something I've done but I have heard people having good sucess with it. Honestly, I think the place the shot goes is really key. A few times its been too far in and I've had a huge welt and bruise for a week. If it goes where it is supposed to, I really hardly feel it :nod:

I think Kim was referring to icing it before the shot - I have also heard of someone using an RX cream called Emla to numb the area.

I've used EMLA cream for the shots. It helps with the needle pain but not the lumps that form from the oil.
My news today is cautiously optimistic. My estrogen increased to 128. I have one 10mm follicle on the left and a few 8mm follicles. Most of the follicles are still quite small. If the big follicles continue to grow without growing the small ones, I might be ok!

Amanda

That does sound positive Amanda! :ok: When do you go back for another check?

Sounding a bit better, Amanda! My fingers are crossed!

Amanda~~~Come on Follies, grow, grow!!!!!!!!

Thanks everyone. My next check is Monday morning.

Amanda

Good Luck today Amanda!

Good luck Amanda!!

Good luck today, Amanda and Kim! :cheer:

Holy cow at all you girls have to go through. :hug99: x 1 billion.

Sending all my good luck/wishes/vibes/prayers to both of you today. :vibes:

Good luck Kim! I hope all transfers well today!!!

Good luck Kim!!!! Thinking of you!!!

My check was so-so. I have a 9.5mm follicle on the right and many smaller ones on both sides. I saw my RE as I was leaving the office and he asked how things looked. I told him, "Like sh*t!" and he laughed and said "too many?" So I said "of course, it's me!" He said he'd call me later with my estrogen results. We'll see what happens...

Amanda

Good luck Kim!!! All fingers crossed!!

Amanda, hope things look 110% up for you pretty soon!!!

Kim- I hope your transfer went well today! I'm sending SUPER STICKY vibes your way!

Amanda- I hope that have a positive update today!!!!!

Thinking of you Kim~~

Amanda~~:justahug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

My transfer was scheduled for Noon today. I know that today was supposed to be a relaxing day for me. . .but it started out hectic in the morning. :crazy: I met a friend at 6:30am to hike our dogs, got home at 8am and decided that I really needed to finished cleaning. I just wanted to make sure that after my transfer, that I could really relax. I made DH get up and vacuum as I followed him with a mop. I cleaned like a frantic woman until I got into the shower 10 min. before we were supposed to leave. We got to the clinic on time and they were behind so we had to wait about an hour or so. That proved to be helpful because I took that time to pull out my Ipod and listen to my meditation/relaxation stuff. The transfer went well. They transferred 2 wonderful looking (that's what they called it) blastocyst. If the rest continue growing well, I should have about 21 eggs leave to freeze. :eak My bloodtest is on Weds. Aug 1st. Until then, I just have to try to relax. :ok:

The PIO is getting easier. Like Judy said, and what I've just realized, the key is getting the shot in the right place!

Jen~Judy and Amanda pretty much answered your question. I used the ice to numb the area before the shot. . .and believe me, I make sure it's pretty darn numb! Like Judy, administers the shot. He also massages the area to spread the oil around. Judy is so right :nod: The key is the location. I totally use a heating pad! Even though I still feel a bit bruised in the area the next morning, the heating pad helps. I can feel the difference when I don't use the heating pad. Also, I do this right before bedtime so that I don't have to get out of bed after the shot.

Amanda~I hope things went well today. :crossfing

Kim

That's wonderful news Kim!!!! And 21 to freeze!

My news today is so-so. When they plotted out my results, I had two 9.5mm follicles and one 8.5mm one. My estrogen is 219. Follicles are still small but at least my estrogen hasn't sky-rocketed. I'm going to continue 2 vials for 2 nights and go back on Wednesday.

Amanda

That is great news Kim. Now relax and let them babies make a good home!!

:rahrah: Kim, that is fantastic news, lots of frozen siblings for this little one or two that stick this time round!! Good luck on the 1st!!! :hug99:

Fingers crossed things look better on Wednesday, Amanda! :hug99:

Kim, I am very happy for you! I loved the story about you and DH cleaning. I could just imagine the two of you doing the vacuuming cleaning/mopping tango :lol:.

Now go relax (as best you can), and we will be thinking of you...

Amanda, I hope your follicles continues to grow and your estrogen continues to rise.

Keep us updated. we are praying for you!

Kim, what great news! Now try to relax and picture those little ones growing strong and healthy in your belly.

I laughed when I read about your cleaning! That's what I do when I'm stressed, worried, tired, scared, etc. My husband jokes that he is going to have a holster made for my cleaning sprays!

Amanda, I'm thinking of you and hoping that everything evens out and your next report is a positive one.

Thinking of those sticky babies Kim!!!

Thanks everyone. I hope your good thoughts do the trick!

Amanda

Kim that is great news!!! Sounds like a wonderful transfer and many totsicles to choose from in the future for siblings!! I was thinking about you all day yesterday and am very excited for you!! 8/1 is not too far away!!

Amanda I am hoping for continued steady progress for you!!

:cheer: :jump: :cheer: Kim Sending you sticky sticky vibes! Holy totsicles in the freezer girl, many siblings for this baby (or two!). You must be over the moon with exitement. Sending big sticky prayers your way! This has been a long time coming.

Amanda-Hoping Wednesday you have several awesome follies ready to make baby!

Judy-Sticky sticky totsicle thoughts for your upcoming FET.

Wow, Kim-you take nesting to a whole new level!!! Imagine how clean your house is going to be in about 7 months!!! :yippee: Can't wait until 8/1!

:bighug: Amanda... hoping the news gets better, sweetie! :crossfing

Still waiting for my E2 results. I had one 12mm, one 11mm, and one 10mm follicle. Plus, LOTS (like 30) smaller follicles. We'll see what the boss says when he gets the results. The good news is the dominant follicles are growing. The bad news is that I'm high risk for hyperstim.

Amanda

Things are worse than I thought. I actually have a 12mm, 11mm, 10mm, 9.5mm, and two 8.5mm. At least my estrogen is only 413. They're cutting back my meds to 1.5 vials and I go back tomorrow....

Amanda

My news of the day is slightly more optimistic. Today I had a 14mm follicle on the right, a 12.5 and 11 on the left. There are several more but they seem enough smaller that it may not be so bad. They will plot the follicles on the chart and see. Since my estrogen hasn't sky-rocketed, it's still probable that they'll let us go to IUI. I had my favorite nurse (we became friends during my very 1st cycle back in 2003) and she was pretty positive about stuff. I'm definitely at risk for multiple but even if it looks like I'll release 4 follicle, they'll let me go to IUI.

Amanda

I'm SO happy that things are looking up Amanda! We want an update everyday okay!!!

Sounds good, Amanda! :aok:

Kim good luck with the 2ww!!! I'm also living for August 1st! If I get to the end of day August 1st without complications, I'll be further along this time than my previous m/c.

So let's count the days...

8/1 is the day I start my new job, too. Let's hope we all get good news that day!!!

Amanda

You're right Amanda, it HAS to be a good day. 3 times lucky!!!

Amanda, yay! When is your next visit?

BTW, how do you feel about multiples?

I'm ok with twins. Not ok with more than that. The chances of having 3 or more healthy babies is low. Especially since I'm short to begin with.

Thinking of you Kim!!!

Amanda

Amanda, that is definately sounding better, atleast it's looking likely you will go to IUI! Very exciting!

I hope the 1st bring everyone nothing but happy things!

Thanks Deb.

IUI is scheduled for 10:30 on Sunday morning!!! My trigger shot is tonight!

Amanda

Best of luck on Sunday! :crossfing

Let's :cheer: for good luck on August 1st!

O.K. so now, huge news. . .I got the phone call on Tuesday morning. . .AS OF LAST NIGHT (THURSDAY) I HAVE A 2 MONTH OLD BABY IN MY HOME!!!! :bliss: Long story short, he's being fostered by us with the possibility of adoption. The bio mom has had 2 kids removed in the past and this is her 3rd. All tests at this point show that the mother didn't do drugs or drink during the pregnancy. She was caught 2 weeks ago drunk and high on Cocaine. I'm absolutely overwhelmed and enjoying it. I will write more in my journal later. . .right now, I'm off being a mommy.

Kim

OMG Kim!!!! That's just wonderful news. I'm so incredibly happy for you!!!! Wow!

Amanda

:faint: OMG, Kim!! You must be over the moon! I hope that it works out and you get to keep him. It doesn't sound like he's got much of a life with his biological mom. :(

Kim that is SO awesome. Being an adoptive mom myself, I promise you it is totally worth it!!!

How wonderful for you, Kim!!! :woo:

Aww Kim!

Go be Mommy! I am happy for you!

:faint: !!!!!! WOW!!! Kim, I am so incredibly thrilled for you, I am sure you are truly enjoying this experience, I hope that it works out and you can be his fulltime Mummy! :love1: I am so saddened that he was born to such a woman but thrilled that there are people like you to pick up the pieces and give these babies a home! I can't wait to hear more!

:yippee: Kim!

:vibes: Amanda!

:wow: Kim, what news that is! So happy that you have such a sweet little thing to foster and maybe adopt. In your short trips on line, definately let us know how it's going.

:bliss: Kim! I hope it works out for you to keep the little guy :)

Thinking of you today, Kim!!! :pray:

Kim, I am so happy for you!

Amanda, GOOD LUCK TODAY!

Thinking of you and dh today, Amanda.

I hope everything goes better than expected and you have your bfp soon!

Kim, that's amazing! I did an internship in foster care and adoption for one year, it was truly amazing. Foster parenthood is such a gift of love, and when a foster child is adopted, it's such a blessing for everyone involved. Families come together in so many different ways, huh. Let's hope that the next nine months end up RAINING babies on you and your dh!!!!!

:bliss: I am a lurker and had to come by and tell you Kim how happy I am :bliss: WOO HOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:woo: Kim!!! :bliss: that is so amazing!!! Ok I have tears running down my cheeks!!! Amazing.

Amanda I am thinking postitive for you!!!

Thanks everyone for my good wishes.
The IUI was a bit of a fiasco but turned out ok in the end. We were delayed nearly 2 hours due to a late lab tech. Poor Tom was sitting in the waiting room for almost 2 hours just waiting to give a "specimen." I was frustrated because the IUI is supposed to be timed 36 hours after the trigger shot. Needless to say mine was almost 38 hours after the shot. I don't think it'll change anything but it made me very angry!

Amanda

Eww Amanda! I can imagine dh's frustration with sitting on "standby" for 2 hours!

I would have been frustrated too. 2 hours probably won't affect anything, but IUI costs $$$...you want everything to go smoothly.

Welcome to the 2ww!

Thanks Kika!

Amanda

Poor Tom!!! :disbelief

Kim - how are you feeling these days? :bliss: How is life in your house with a new, tiny one? :bliss: I'm SOOO excited for you!!!!

Totally late to this, but OMG Kim! I'm thrilled to hear your news!!

Amanda, I'm sorry the IUI was such a touch experience, but I surely hope it works out! :crossfing

Almost the 1st!! :rahrah: I can't wait to hear your news, Kim!

Kim- I'm sorry I'm so late to congratulate you. Wow, how exciting!! I can't say enough good things about adoption. Our little guy wouldn't have had much of a chance at life if he lived with his birthmom. Thank God she realized that and placed him with us! If you have any questions about our adoption process, or just need some support (I know what it's like to become a mommy overnight with NO warning!!) PM me!! Keeping my fingers crossed for you tomorrow! Wow, you may have a very large family in no time at all!!!!

Amanda, I hope that your 2ww flies by!! Sending very sticky thoughts your way!

Thanks everyone!
I'm dying to hear news from Kim about everything!!!!

Amanda

I have a baby baby baby vibe for Kim for tomorrow! I think you are going to have a house full soon :nod:

Amanda, I'm still :giggle: and :rolleyes: at your comedy of errors... unbelievable. Hopefully it will end up being a good story for the baby book. :nod:

Holy Crap, Kim-I can't believe tomorrow is the day!!!!!!

Thinking of you, Kim!!!!!! Come talk to us!

I should say I *think* its tomorrow but I am not 100% :blush:

Can't wait to hear the results Kim!!!

Just imagine to be a mom to two little babies!!

Thinking of you today Kim!

Amanda

Good luck Kim!

Can't wait to hear about what is happening in your life Kim. :vibes: :crossfing

Good luck today, Kim :hug99: My fingers are crossed tightly!

Anxiously awaiting your post, Kim! Good luck! I too am feeling like you are going to have a full house soon. From zero to sixty, baby! :lol:

Amanda~:crossfing

Thank you so much for your good wishes and support :grouphugg I've been wanting to post in my journal and I haven't even been there yet, so thank you all for coming over here. :hug99:

Things have been great with little Nicholas! He is the sweetest baby ever. Right now, I'm still in the midst of trying to figure out childcare, if I should take time off, etc. Every day has been a little crazy (but good) and everyone has questions for me and I just keep telling people that I'm just taking it day by day. The good thing is that I haven't been obsessing about today's blood test.

I woke up to change the baby at about 4am and decided to use the bathroom myself. I was spotting. :grr: (It's a little bit of brown, not red). I totally know that this doesn't mean it over, but for me, it wasn't what I wanted to see to boost my confidence. I brought Nicholas with me to my bloodtest (because I had no choice) and the phlebotomist was taken with the baby and my story.

All I can do now is wait. If things don't work out this cycle, at least the day won't end with me drunk from the bottle of wine I would drink. I have responsibilities now. . ya know.

Kim

maybe that was implantation spotting?

I'm so happy you have little Nicholas to keep you occupied. :biggrin: Welcome to the crazy world of working moms!

Kim~~ What a blessing!! You deserve this!!
Amanda~~Come on 2ww.....What are you doing to keep busy???

Dh & I start stims on Friday here goes everything, I'm starting to get nervous, but am optimistic, no reason why this shouldn't work.

Jennifer

Kim - I'm so happy for you, regardless of what happens with your bloodtest today. Obviously I'm hoping for more GOOD NEWS!
Jennifer - I just started my new job today so hopefully that will keep me occupied. GOOD LUCK to you!!!

Amanda

:love1: Kim. I bet it's an amazing feeling to be caring for little Nicholas! I hope that the spotting meant nothing and you get positive result from the blood test, how soon do you find out?

Kim- I hope the spotting was nothing but implantation bleeding!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. I know how busy you are, but I can't wait to hear everything about baby Nicholas!!

I got a call on my cell phone yesterday as I was showing the baby around to my co-workers. I could tell it was from the clinic and didn't answer it, not wanting to ruin the moment. They didn't leave a message. I checked my work voicemail and nothing was left there so I assumed they left one on my home machine (which I don't know how to access remotely). About 2 hours later, as I was on my way home, the clinic called again and I decided, what the hell, I'm almost home. . . .IT WAS FRICKIN' POSITIVE! :bliss: I couldn't even believe it. Beta was 205 and I go back in tomorrow for another beta. This is great! However, I've been here before and remain optimistically cautious. :crossfing :pray:

I had an appointment w/ my therapist this morning and asked to go off the antidepressants because I was too happy. :crazy: She told me I could reduce the amount to half a pill for now. She reminded me that, although we wouldn't want any of this to happen, that my situation with Nicholas and my new BFP are subject to change. . .:blue:

Jen~I wish you all the best for your cycle! :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing

Amanda~I hope you're doing well.

:bighug: and :kiss: to you all.

Kim

CONGRATS Kim!!!! I had a sneaking suspicion that this cycle was going to work for you! I'm thinking sticky, sticky thoughts. Good luck tomorrow!

Amanda

:cheer: :cheer:

Hooray! I knew it was going to be positive! I think little Nicholas came along JUST at the right time. :biggrin:

:bliss: Yippee!!!! I was stalking this thread :lol:


Congratulations Kim thinking positive about Beta number 2 little steps right?

Congratulations!!! :cheer: :vibes: I'm sending positive thoughts that this baby sticks!

CONGRATULATIONS! I had such a strong feeling that you would get a positive beta! Even though you have good reason to be "cautiously optimistic", try to enjoy every second of your good fortune. You deserve it!!

Congrats Kim! I have everything crossed for a great 2nd beta!

CONGRATULATIONS KIM!!!! What WONDERFUL news!!!! Seriously, seriously wishing you a HAPPY, HEALTHY uneventful 9 months :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :yippee:

Congratulations!!! Hopefully Nicholas will give off some good baby vibes and the little one you are carrying right now will just have to stick so he/she can meet his/her big brother! You and your family are in my thoughts.

Congrats, Kim! I really hope this is it for you :crossfing

I followed everyone's profile lines over. :woo: Congratulations, Kim!! :woo: I'm so happy for you. I hope you have a beautiful and eventless 9 months. :)

Congrats Kim!!!! I'm keeping everything crossed hoping this is the one!

Congrats Kim!!!!! I am so over the moon for you!!!!!

:woo: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):vibes: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)Kim~~YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jennifer

:woo: Kim! :woo: :woo: :woo: Everything is coming together - I have such a good feeling for you!!

Congratulations, Kim! I have everything crossed for you. ;)

Jen-good luck starting stims on Friday!!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that your cycle goes smoothly and results in a BFP!!! Keep us posted along the way! Try not to be nervous...maybe you should use Kim's mantra
THINK GOOD THOUGHTS...THINK GOOD THOUGHTS...THINK GOOD THOUGHTS. It's certainly worked for her!!!

Amanda- I hope your first day at your new job went well and that your 2ww isn't too excruciating!!!!

:crossfing :vibes: I hope all this good stuff continues for you Kim!

Kim, CONGRATULATIONS! :woo: That's the best news.

I am thinking a GAZILLION sticky thoughts for you :hug99: I am so thrilled that the first hurdle of implantation is over and now we move onto seeing that beta increase.

What is the time frame you are looking towards? as in, with your last pregnancies when was the point of m/c?

:bliss::hi5::woo:A million happy thoughts for you, Kim.

You are in my thoughts and prayers.

And :kiss: back at ya!

I am so beyond thrilled for you Kim!!!! Thinking bigtime positive thoughts for you!!!

:bliss: Congrats Kim!!! It's such great news!!

GOOD LUCK today!!!!
Let us know how high your beta is!

Amanda

I'm another one who followed profile lines over...CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! :yippee: I hope everything is going great today!

Kim, good luck today! Can't wait to hear how high your beta is!

Kim, I just wanted to add my congratulations here as well. :hug99: I am so incredibly excited for you and have been wishing and hoping that you would be able to give birth and start having blissful chaos in your house. :hug99:

OMG. Congratulations Kim. :bliss:

Another profile line follower. Congratulations x2 for both Nicholas and the :bfp: Thinking sticky sticky thoughts!!!

Honey, congratulations!!!!!!!! I'm so unbelievably happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss:

Just came in to see if there was any news on the beta. Where is that pacing smilie?

Congratulations Kim!! Sending sticky vibes!!!

Hi Kim! I'm another who followed the profile lines over to wish you a HUGE congratulations!! Can't wait to hear more good news!!

:bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: HH9M Kim! I am so happy for you! Long journey, but worth the wait for both your babies! Congrats on Nathan praying his adoption goes through quick and easy, you deserve it. You guys must be over the moon right now! A little baby boy made for your arms and another 38 weeks away from being there!

Sticky sticky hug and kisses!
Andrea

Just checking in here first for an update, I see there isn't one so heading over to your journal, Kim :hug99: Hope all is well.

I'm hoping you are happily busy with the baby Kim :)

Jennifer how are things going for you?

Hey Judy~~Tomorrow is my first U/S, day 4 of stims. RE has me on gonal F and Menopur, & 5 iu of Lupron. I'm feeling kinda anxious. RE has me mixing the Gonal F with the menopur at night so I don't have to do two shots in the evening. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. It doesn't sem like I can draw all the medicine out of the vial.[/url] [url="http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#"]:tapfoot: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)I felt like I was having hot flashes earlier tonight. I have a wicked headache I can't seem to rid myself of. Other than that, I'm looking forward to progress tomorrow.

How are things with you Judy??

Kim~~ How are you?

J

Thinking of both of you, Kim and Jenn.

I hope everything goes well for you Jenn and you get rid of the headache.

Jennifer - Gotta love the lupron hot flashes. Don't stress too much about getting ALL of the medication out of the vials. It isn't possible! I'm sure they account for that in the dosing. Thinking of you! Good luck with the follicle check.

Amanda

Jen, good luck with your follicle check today! The Lupron headache and the hot flashes are the worst! I hope you feel better!
Keep us posted on how many follies!!!

Judy, what's going on with you?

Aw you guys!!! :grouphugg

My second Beta was 483. . .so far, so good. :up: I go in on Aug 21st for my first U/S. That's the hump that I need to get over at this point. I've been here before, but I've never gotten pass the first U/S. I'm still being cautiously optimistic.

Jen~:nod: Headaches and hotflashes. . .all too famaliar. Wishing you many follies. :clap:

Kristen~Nice to see your face!

Kim

GREAT news Kim!!!! Awesome, awesome, awesome!!!!

Amanda

That is great news Kim! :pray: that the next hump is even better!!

Kim - :bliss: :hug99: :bliss: :hug99: :bliss: :hug99:

:banana: Kim! I hope you get continued good news on the 21st!

Jen - I'll jump into cheering you on now too! :)

Yay Kim! I'll be thinking of you on the 21st.

Great news Kim! :bliss:

Jennifer how was the u/s?

Amanda when is your beta?

so much activity!!! I am actually still on my break, no AF yet, I don't think that means anything other than it is the result of the chemical pregnancy. So once AF comes I will have the cycle rest and gear up then do the FET with the next one. I haveto say the break is doing wonders for my sanity though, I am really glad I decided to do it. :)

I'm glad your break is serving you well Judy. The psychological impact of all of this is just huge!
My beta is Sunday.

Amanda

Great news, Kim!!! I'll be thinking about you and keeping everything crossed that your US goes great!

:rahrah: Kim! that's fantastic news!!!!!! My fingers are crossed so tightly I desperately want to see you get past that 1st u/s!

Kim- Awesome!!!!!!!!!

Amanda- Sticky Sticky baby wishes!

Hi everyone~~

This a.m. was my second U/S. Looks like I have 5 follies on the L and the R=10 total. I think they are still very small. They say I'm right on track. I hope to get more by Friday. They haven't upped my dosage. Still the same as when I started. This is all the news I have.

That sounds like very good news Jennifer!!!!

Amanda

Judy~Although I always initially wanted to rush to the next cycle, I wound up having to be thankful for the break because it did wonders for my sanity. The breaks always gave me time to focus on friends and family instead of spending the time anxious and on edge. Being able to relax with a guilty free glass of wine was always a big plus for me. :awink:

Jen~ :bullhorn: Grow Follies Grow :rahrah:


Kim

Jennifer that sounds promising!!!

Kim: How are you feeling?

Judy: Sometimes sanity breaks are much needed!!

Well, there was faintest 2nd line ever. Tom confirmed that something was there but agrees that we need to wait another day to be sure. I compared it to yesterday's test which was stark white and there is something there that wasn't there yesterday. I'm not declaring it positive until I'm a little more certain. My blood test is on Sunday.

Amanda

:crossfing :)

Come on Amanda!!!!!!

Amanda-:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing :crossfing:crossfing:crossfing!!!

Jen, do you have another u/s tomorrow? If so, good luck!

Only one line for me today. UGH!

Good luck today Jennifer!

Amanda

Good luck Jennifer.

Amanda: :hug99: Hopefully your beta will prove those sticks wrong!!! :crossfing

Thanks Melissa! I just have to wait.

Kim - BTW... I just heard from DanaKnight and she wanted me to send her heart-felt congrats on both your positive beta and your precious Nicholas. Did you know that she's very, very pregnant with boy/girl twins for DE???? She's doing well, just a bit uncomfortable....

Amanda

Hi everyone~~U/S today proved that I have 8 or 9 follicles. There are a few small ones that RE says will not keep up with the rest. This office shoots for 10 eggs. They seemed happy with 8 or 9. Last year the other RE retrieved 8 eggs one immature so 7. Oh guys I need this, I need more. Do you think it will be enough?? Do you think it's normal for someone my age (37) to only get 8 eggs. Sometimes I here of womean making 20, 25......

Amanda~~~ I thought you were going to wait till Sunday???????

Jennifer, I think 8 or 9 is great :nod: I know my RE is wary once you get above 12 just because of the greater risk of OHSS etc. I do think the IVF girls in their early 20's or donors of a simmilar age are more prolific in general but age does not determine everything!!

Also, you might get some more between now and your next u/s sometimes they hide.

Amamda now I am truely stalking you on various sites :lol:

Amanda~I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for your blood test. :crossfing
Thanks for the message from DanaKnight! Twins. . .wow. :jump:

Jen~Hope things are going well. . .

Kim

Thanks guys. I'm totally impatient and I'm a POAS-aholic. What can I say?!?
Jennifer - I think you've got plenty!
Kim - Yup! She's pretty excited.

Amanda

Did you get your blood results Jennifer? Are they happy with everything?

I took another HPT. Not sure if there's an evap line or a "real" 2nd line....

Amanda

Jennifer sounds like everything is going pretty well!!

Jennifer: It's sound positive, good luck!

Hi everyone~~

Today the U/S revealed I have 9 or 10 follies....I go in on Thursday for retrieval. RE is hoping we will get a couple more by then. My stomach is sooo bloated, it looks like I'm prego already:lol: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
TTYS

Hopefully all goes well and your stomach will really get bloated!!!

That's great Jennifer!!!

Here's the story. I am pregnant but it'll probably be a chemical pregnancy. My beta is 7.52. Normal for this time is about 100. My progesterone is also low. Together this means it's probably not viable. I'll start progesterone suppositories in the morning and have a repeat blood test on Tuesday. That explains the HPTs....

Amanda

I'm sorry Amanda~~~

I'm sorry, Amanda.

Thank you.

Amanda

:hug99: Amanda. I am so sorry...

Oh, Crap. I'm sorry, hon... :hug99:

:hug99: Amanda

Adding one more hug for you :sadhug:


limbo stinks

SHEILA~~Can you tell me when my SUBSCRIPTION to this page expires????

THX

Jen: Paid Subscription End Date: September 22, 2007

Amanda, thinking of you :hug99:

I am sorry, Amanda :hug99:

Beta was negative today.
At least I can move on now.

Amanda

I am so sorry Amanda. :hug99:

I'm so sorry, Amanda. :hug1:

:hug99: Amanda

I'm sorry Amanda. :hug99:

:hug99: Sorry Amanda, it sucks...

Jennifer, how did everything go today with the retrieval?

Kika~~thx for asking..


13 eggs....wow...I didn't expect that. I get the call between 3-5 tomorrow. I'm feeling good, starting to get a little nervous now....Just trying to keep busy.

How are you?

Good luck today Jennifer!!!

Man is it the 21st yet??? :bullhorn: (I don't like how this guy is grumpy looking) How are you doing Kim? Thinking positive thoughts for you girl!!! :pray:

Wow, Jenn! 13 is fantastic!!!! Here's to 13 healthy embies, and one (or two :awink: ) that stick really soon!!!!! :crossfing

13 is excellent Jennifer! Let us know when you get the call!!

Amanda~Gosh, I'm so sorry. :sadhug: How are you hanging in there emotionally? Do you plan on trying again?

Jennifer~:clap: That's great! :crossfing for continuing good results.

I'm doing great. Thankfully, Nicholas has kept be so busy that I haven't had much time to think the ultrasound. When I have a moment where I remember what may or may not be going on in my body, I do get a bit anxious. I'm somewhat tired but I have a clear reason (early morning bottles) and my boobs are a bit bigger (Kent is enjoying that) :awink:, and I'm more moody (Kent isn't enjoying that). Other than that, I'm not feeling too much different physically. I really think that I'm at the point where this ultrasound is going to feel more like a bloodtest in terms of when I'll feel like this is real. Getting past this ultrasound (and me not leaving the clinic crying), will take me to places I haven't been before. . .that's when I hope to start really celebrating.

Judy~How you doing? :justahug:

Kim

I hope you leave the clinic crying with joy!! I am rooting for you!!

Hi everyone~~


13 eggs 2 no good. 11 icsi 7 fertilized. Tomorrow is transfer. I am absolutely beside myself...........
:bliss:
Now, onto the next hurdle

Jen, good luck tomorrow! I'm sending you sticky vibes!!!!!

AManda, :hug99: next time for sure!!

Jen, that's fantastic! Can't wait to hear how the transfer went!

Kim, oh, Kim...I really, really am praying for tears of joy at the u/s for you!! Please, God, let this miracle of miracles happen! thinking of you.......

The transfer was absolutely amazing!!! I feel so special. The RE, the embyrologist, the surgeon, the nurse, they were all there today. We transferred 4 beautiful dividing embyros. Today is day 3 since retrieval. I am so happy and emotional. I am living in this moment. They gave me a picture of the embyros and they look so beautiful.
I realize I still have the 2WW, but honestly I feel very positive about the whole experience. The experience with this clinic has been 50x better than my last IVF through the other clinic. I can't believe the difference.

I am so happy!!!

Jennifer I love your optimistic and positive attitude!! I really hope the 2ww goes by fast and end the end you get your long awaited bfp!!! :crossfing

:rahrah: Jennifer. I am so thrilled it was such a great experience and that you were able to transfer so many healthy embies!!!!! GOOD LUCK! when is blood test day?

Kim: All my positive thoughts are geared towards you walking out of that u/s with a smile big enough to warm up the whole world! :hug99:

Great news Jennifer!!!! I'm so happy that you had a good experience.
Kim - I'm thinking of you! Can't wait to hear good news from you about your u/s.

I'm hanging in there. When I got my first + HPT I thought I'd get a baby out of the cycle but after my HPTs got lighter I knew it would be a chemical. I'm really doing ok. I'm not happy about it but I've been able to move on. I went for a baseline at my new RE's and had a very large cyst on my left ovary. I'm on BCPs for 2 weeks and then hopefully I'll get the a-ok to start cycling again.

Amanda

Jennifer - thinking good thoughts for you.

Kim, your US is coming up so soon! You're on my mind.

Jennifer wonderful news!! Hope the TWW passes really quickly for you!

Kim wonderful to hear the joy in your post. Are you all settling into a routine with Nicholas? Very excited for your u/s and yes,

I hope you leave the clinic crying with joy!! I agree with this 100% couldn't have said it better!

So for me AF is still MIA :dunno: which is really fine I guess. Thinking my body is enjoying the break too. But I'm feeling more encouraged which I needed. So when she comes we'll have one more natural cycle and move to the FET. Still go back and forth on the 2 or 1 but I think given my history sticking to 1 is the best path for me.

ETA Amanda, I meant to post to you that I get confused what I have said to you where :lol: but I am hoping the 2 weeks of BCP's and the change in office are just the perfect combination for you!!

Jen~Oh Jennifer! :bighug: :jump: What great news. . .and may these positive feelings and joy stay with you as long as possible. :crossfing

Amanda~I'm glad that this negative wasn't too hard on your emotions. Is there going to be able problem with the cyst? I mean, would you have to remove it or anything?

Judy~Hey girl. . .I'm so glad this time has been good for your spirits. :shine: :justahug:

Thank you for all your well wishes. . .I really do need them. :crossfing

Things are actually a bit crazy and we're not quite at a routine yet. I just secured childcare for Sept. 1st and I think it will be a bit easier after that. I'm still enjoying myself, but I'm definitely tired. :sleepy:
And yep, I'm starting to get a bit anxious about tomorrow :bitenails.

Jennifer, so good to see you so very happy! :clap:

Kim, you are so in my thoughts right now ! :pray:

Thinking of you for tomorrow Kim!

Amanda

Thinking good thoughts Kim!!!

I don't blame you, Kim! I am still sending a zillion positive thoughts your way and hope you walk out of there tomorrow with a beaming smile!

Oh Kim, can't wait to hear your news today! I'm sure it will be good news!!!

:pray: CanNOT wait to hear the update!!!!!!!!!

:pray: for awesome news today Kim!!

Jen- I'm so happy your experience was a positive one! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that your 2ww goes by lightening fast and that you get the BFP that you so deserve!!

Amanda- I hope that the BCP do the trick for your cyst and that you're on the mend and back in the game soon!!!

Kim, I'll be waiting on pins and needles all day to hear your news!! I just know it's going to be good!! Thinking of you!

God Bless Kim today~~~

All of your positive wishes and thoughts worked! :grouphugg

There was little bean in there with a heartbeat. :phew: My due date is April 12.

It's all still digesting.


:bliss:

Kim

OMG...that is so wonderful!!!! I am so happy for you :cheer::cheer::cheer:

Congratulations Kim!!! I am so happy for you!!!

Oh Kim!!! :bawl: Words can't describe how happy I am to read your news!!! :bliss:

Kim, your post gave me chills! Words cannot express how truly thrilled I am for you! Congratulations!!!!!!:bliss:

:bawl: Kim that is the best news I have heard all day!!! I am so happy for you. Congratulations!!!! :bliss:

OMG. Kim that is wonderful:rahrah: :yippee: :banana: :cheer: :woo:

:cheer: Kim, that is wonderful! Congrats to you and your DH on your tiny one!

Kim, I'm so happy!

Now come join us in the pregnancy forum!

Oh KIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bliss: X1000000!!!!!!!! I'm SO happy to hear the good news!! :congrats: So, how far along are you then? Will you put up a little ticker for the beautiful little bean?
I just can't believe it! I'm so so so happy for you!!!!!!!!

:woo: :woo: :woo: :woo: :woo:

I'm so excited for you Kim!! Congratulations!

:bliss: :congrats: That is wonderful news Kim!!!!

:banana: Kim!!!! Awesome!!!!! Congratulations!!!! :love3:

:bliss: :bliss:

I'm so happy for you kim!

What wonderful news!!! Congratulations and best wishes for an uneventful 9 months!!!

OMG!!!! I'm beyond happy for you!!!!

Amanda

:woo: Congratulations!

:woo: Congratulations, Kim!!!! :woo: :woo: :woo:

BEST NEWS TO WAKE UP TO EVER!!! :rahrah:

CONGRATULATIONS! I had a good feeling about this, it's just your time honey!!

Now come and bring your butt over to the pregnancy group and join in! :hug99:

I won't put you on the list till you are ready for me to, but the minute you give the go ahead, it's happening!!

AWWWWWWW Kim~~~~~:justahug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):rahrah: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):cheer: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):banana: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):jump: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):ura1: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):woo: :woo: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):dude: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):pulp: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):yippee: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):intact: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):dancingpi (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):congrats: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
I am absoluetly thrilled for you and your family.........God Bless you! I'm praying I'll be following in your footsteps. O please, O please, O please, o please!!!!!:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

XOXO

WONDERFUL!!! I am beyond thrilled for you guys Kim!!!!

Congratulations!!!

:woo: Wonderful news, Kim!!!

:banana: Kim! I couldn't be happier for you!! :heee:

Congratulations Kim!! I am so happy for you!

Kim, I have been thinking of you all day today, despite worrying about my son.

I could not wait to log on to check on you. I am so happy for you!

:woo: What wonderful news! I'm so so happy for you! :cheer:

Wow!!! I'm soo happy for you Kim!! Congrats a million times!! That is absolutely wonderful news... :congrats:

:yippee:

:bliss:Awesome news Kim!!!

Oh Wow!!! I am thrilled to hear your news!!!! :yippee:

Jenn, how are you? How are you feeling?

I am thinking sticky vibes for you.

Kim, I am still thrilled for you and wishing you a healthy nine months!

Hi Kika~~ Thx for wishing stickiness for me!

Tomorrow is the blood test......I've been spotting for two days now. Red & brown. I'm not feeling optimistic as I was after the transfer. It's a personal devastating blow in which I can't really describe right now. There is most likely no baby~~ No more money to try again. I am a 37 year old infertile woman & honestly I can see no hope. I now know hope is not a plan. I've hoped, wished, and prayed my brains out as well as all my family and friends. I've done EVERYTHING that was asked of me and some.
I have nothing left.
Thank you all for your support.

Jennifer - I'm not giving up yet are you planning to test on your own before the beta? FWIW, I have heard of many women spotting during the TWW and getting positive results hopefully you are seeing implantation spotting. Though don't be afraid to vent here all your feelings are understood and :hug:

Many many thoughts for you

Thinking of you, Jennifer.

Jennifer, I'm holding out hope for you. Please know that I'm thinking about you and hoping and praying that your intuition is way off base.

K

:hug99: I'm hoping those are the severely augement hormones of a twin pregnancy giving you the blues... :crossfing ... don't you worry about having hope, We've got enough hope between us to get you through... :hug99:

:hug99: Jennifer, I am thinking positive for tomorrow. Hang in there.

Oh Jennifer. I am sorry. I hope the spotting is similar to the brown spotting I had with my son. I went on to have a healthy pregnancy.

You may be 37, but we see a brave, compassionate woman, not infertility.

No matter the outcome tomorrow, know that we are here for you. And there is always hope. I am learning a tough lesson about hope with my son being sick. His doctor reminded me of that today. Even if the odds of his survival are 30%, well, some one has to be in the 30%. Numbers are just that, and odds do little to predict the future for one person.

I have hope Jennifer that you will get your baby, and soon.

Jennifer, just hang in there! Don't want to give you false hope, but my SIL had IVF done 3 months ago and she's been bleeding throughout since the 2ww and the baby is fine...

Jennifer I am so sorry to hear that you are losing hope. :hug99: I can't begin to understand what you are going through. I :pray: that it's just implantation spotting and all is well.

:hug99: Jennifer, I hope that everything is going well and you will get good news with the blood test.

I'm sorry about the spotting Jennifer. I'm thinking good thoughts for you.

Amanda

Jennifer, just wanted you to know that I'm thinking of you today and praying for a positive beta!

:grouphugg (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

You women are fantastic~~I appreciate all your comments!! I will post later when I get the exact confirmation from the RE instead of this wimpy, whiney, "having my own personal private pity party" woman!

Until then......thank you everyone for your kind words of comfort and hope!

I hope you get surprised by good news!

Amanda

Jen, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for good news!!!

Jen, hoping for a good news for you!!!

Just checking in on ya Jen!! Keeping :crossfing and :pray: for some great news for you!!!

Here it goes~

Got to RE's feeling defeated. Nurse asked how I was & I promptly told her "It's over for me" She informed me of alot of women having spotting and that this was probably normal for the amount of embroys transferred. But not so convincing to me. I asked about my other 3 eggs....they did not progress. I left feeling all the more defeated and satisfied that this was my outcome~~~~only to be interrupted by the nurse on my way home.....tears and all, in the middle of thinking how I was to get another 15 grand or more, thinking how life sucks and I can't believe after all I have been through........................................... ...............................................

BFP:bawl: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) Did yo read that correctly??? Yep....BFP

She wanted to tell me right away as she knew how upset I was....WOW

Soooooo....I'm in shock, can't believe it still, but am overjoyed nonetheless.
I go back on Friday for another Beta. ...
My numbers are as follows, I still don't understand what they all mean.......

Beta 29
E2 270
PROGESTERONE 35
The Progesterone was up to 2 suppositories at night still only 1cc PIO (OUCH)

KK, sooooooo tired......Thank you all for your caring, warmth and support!!!!!!!!!!!!

J

:bighug:Jennifer, you made me smile. And cry. :bawl:

Today was rough, and I have been trying hard to believe in hope today. I have needed some good news.

Thank you honey for posting your good news. Hope is real.

BFP. Wow!

:bliss: :bliss: Jen that is totally awesome!!! I'm so happy for you - congrats!!

Just a reminder about the bleeding - please don't let it stress you out if you keep bleeding. With SIL, they transferred 3 embies, she started bleeding in the 2ww, thought it was over, but got bfp. Then on 6 weeks she called me histerically, said she's loosing the baby, she filled 3 pads during the night. Went to the RE the following day and bubs was fine. She continued bleeding. On 8 weeks she called me again histerically saying she's passing clots. They went to the RE, bubs was fine. She said the RE said that it isn't a good thing that she's bleeding so much, but if this pregnancy is succesfull, the only explanation for the bleeding is implantation. She's almost on 12 weeks and still bleeding.

The beta number by itself doesn't really mean anything (unless it's less than 5, then they don't consider you pregnant). What you're looking for is that the number doubles every 48 hrs. So your beta will only mean something if you have another test done. I found the following website quite informative: www.betabase.info (http://www.betabase.info)

The progesterone also varies from person to person. If I recall correctly, they just want to see your progesterone above 15.

Come and join us on the pregnancy forum when you feel you're ready.

:congrats: Kim and Jen! :crossfing for a healthy happy 9 months.

Jen this is the most wonderful news to wake up to!! Congratulations!!! I pray you have a wonderful and healthy nine months!!! :bliss:

:rahrah: Jennifer!! that is AMAZING NEWS!! How extremely special of the nurse to call you straight away.

I had bleeding before I got a BFP too, I didn't believe it was possible, but well my impossible is running around the house as we speak. :heee:

I am thinking positive sticky vibes for you and that your beta keeps doubling!!! :hug99:

What amazing hope you and Kim have given others!

:rahrah: I am so happy for you Jennifer! What wonderful news!

Yay Jennifer! I am thrilled for you! Wishes and prayers for a sticky baby and healthy 9 months! :bteddy: :pteddy:

Jen,
I'm so thrilled for you! I just had a gut feeling you were going to get your BFP! Now relax and think positive, sticky thoughts!! Congratulations!!!

CONGRATS Jennifer!!!! Thinking the stickiest of sticky thoughts for you!

Amanda

Haydee~~ I really appreciate all the information about your SIL, that gives me strength and courage. Also to know that I am not alone.

Tomorow I do go for another Beta.....I now know it has to double......Thinking good thoughts.
I spotted still more brown last night before I went to bed. I felt crampy early this morning.......I'm hoping I'm not misscarrying as we speak. I will take heart in what you all said and stay positive. I honestly thought I was out of the race the other night before the initial beta. This news is like lightening striking me dead~~This truly is unbelievable to me. Do you think it's safe to tell the parents and friends? I can barely keep this good news in.

Thanks all for the well wishes! Truly appreciated and accepted.:thankyou: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Jen, i'm crying happy tears for you, and I don't even know you :bawl: CONGRATULATIONS!!!! WIshing you a happy and healthy 9 months~~~~!!!!!!!

:congrats:

Whether or not to tell people is a personal decision. With my 1st I told everyone right away because I was so excited. Since then I've had 2 chemical pregnancies and I've become alot more cautious. If/when I get pregnant again I'll wait at least until we see a heartbeat, maybe longer.
The question to ask yourself is this: If, God forbid, this baby doesn't stick, would you rather have everyone know or would you rather not have to "un-tell" everyone? I don't mean to be pessimistic at all!
Thinking healthy, sticky thoughts for you!!!

Amanda

I have to agree with Amanda..

I spotted still more brown last night before I went to bed. I felt crampy early this morning


Delurking to say a huge congrats!!! :woo:

Spotting brown is good, because it's not bright red. That's a panic button, but it also doesn't mean you are miscarrying. And cramping doesn't mean that at all. I had horrible cramping with my last 2 babies, and it was just put off by the doctor as ligament pain caused by stretching or hormones or even gas. Good luck!

I am with, Shel. Every pregnancy I have had I cramp through the entire 1st trimester, I would literally feel like AF would show her ugly head any minute and I spent the majority of the time on the toilet checking TP :crazy: Cramping can mean good as well as bad, it can mean growth of the uterus, and that is exactly what we want :hug99:

this is going to be a crazy ride for you, so hang in there. You will survive it!

Lastly about telling people, I personally like to tell straight away, I would rather people know I miscarried if I ever did than having to keep it a secret and people wonder what is wrong with me. But that is me. If you are a more private person then maybe waiting till the heartbeat is seen on an u/s is best for you.

Either way, we know :giggle: So that is good enough for me :rahrah:

JEN!!!! :banana: :woo: :woot: :yippee: :jump: :rahrah: :dude:

AWESOME!!!!!!

:crossfing for a massive leap on your next beta!!!! Can't wait to hear more great news!!!

Still thinking sticky thoughts Jen....

Jen, sending you all the positive vibes!

About telling people.... It really is a personal preference thing. We have always told my parents and in-laws immediately. We told a couple of friends and family with my first pregnancy when I was about 6.4 weeks which ended in m/c. People literally called me when I was hospital for the d&c to congratulate me and I found it extremely awkward for all parties that I had to tell them right after their congratulations that it was a m/c. I don't mind people knowing about the m/c, but some people tend to call me very often to check up on me and would make insensitive comments like, are you gonna try again immediately? Is there news of another baby yet? I also found it difficult to cope emotionally with people constantly asking me how I was doing. I know they meant well, but it made my emotional journey a lot more difficult.

This time round we've only told the people very close to us. I'll probably tell everyone after the 12 week sonar, which is in 2 weeks time. I'd rather in hindsight tell people that it was a m/c, than go through the awkwardness of the situation. But that is just me...

Jennifer :woo: Congratulations!!!! Great news I am so happy to hear your spotting was nothing to worry about :)

I don't know what to tell you on telling, I think Amanda said it well :nod: It is such a personal choice.

Hi all~

Today was second beta. RE will call at 2:00 eastern time. I'm very concerned as there was a little dark red blood last night:( I'm still staying positive. I realize at his point anything can happen. I appreciate all the stories about other people having this same type of situation and still making it. Sooooooooooooo...I'll be in touch later either crying or laughing.........

:pray: :crossfing that beta doubles!!!

Fingers crossed Jennifer!!!

Amanda

I'm praying beta doubles, Jennifer! :hug99:

Praying for you.

WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can breathe again. My beta is 70/E2 424/ Pro 36.6 This is good I guess? I'm still pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still can't believe it..........I keep thinking any second they will take it away..........

O...I'm so happy. I go Wednesday for my 1st ultrasound........The whole world has just been lifted off my shoulders.....

Thx again for support and love.

Jennifer

:woo: for increasing Beta #s, I'm so happy for you! Congrats.

Congrats Jen!

Congrats Jen! The keep those numbers doubling! So Awesome, I remember how it felt to have that magic beta number and thinking the same thing, is it real? I think until you hold your baby it doesnt seem real. On telling people, we had decided to wait until I was three months but DH was so excited he told everyone we came into contact with. When you deal with IF, a success is so exciting its hard to hold in your happiness!

HH9M2U!
Andrea

Jen!!! :bliss: I'm absolutely elated for you!!! :bliss: I'll be praying that your numbers continue to get bigger and you'll be feeling icky in no time! :hug99:

That's fantastic news!!! :rahrah:

GREAT news!!!!

Amanda

What a great news to wake up to!!!!! Congrats, Jen!!!!!!!! :bliss:

Jen, i'm crying happy tears for you, and I don't even know you :bawl: CONGRATULATIONS!!!! WIshing you a happy and healthy 9 months~~~~!!!!!!!

:congrats:

Exactly what I was thinking! I just had to explain to my husband why I was crying. Human connection, empathy has no boundaries. Congratulations!

Jennifer I am soo happy for you!!! You deserve this so much!!!! :hug99: Congratulations and I hope you have a wonderful time being pregnant!!! :bliss:

:grouphugg (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
All of you have truly touched my heart for your support and compassion. This has been an unbelievable journey and it wouldn't have been the same without aeach and everyone of you. I can't wait to jump over to the pregnancy page.............

Jen, what great news! I'm so happy for you!

Congratulations Jen!

I am so happy for you! I can't wait until you can hear your sweetheart's h/b on the u/s.

I have a spot all warm and ready for you over there :hug99:

:woo: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)I'm so happy

:giggle: And so you should be!!!! :rahrah:

Happy Birthday Jennifer! I hope you enjoy being pregnant on your birthday!!!

Amanda

Happy Birthday Jennifer!!!

Amanda~ AWWWWWWWW, thx soooo much!! Being pregnant is the best birthday present ever!!

Today was my first ultrasound. They couldn't see anything!! :whistle:

I guess due to my lining being so thick!? I don't know, but I do know they want me back on Monday....HMMMMM...a little mind boggling. Today they say I am 5 wks and 1 day. RE will call with the beta numbers a little later....Until then.

Muuahhh

Jennifer

P.S.
Where exactly do I join those on the pregnancy board?? DUH!!
LMK

Jen, Happy Birthday! By the next US you'll be closer to when they can hear the hb via ultrasound.

And this is where the Pregnancy section is:
http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45

I'm surprised they even did a sonogram at 5 weeks! My RE wouldn't look that early because it's not likely that they'll see anything.

Amanda

Happy Birthday, pregnant lady!!!

Happy Birthday Jennifer! I wouldn't worry about the u/s it is really early. I think the earliest I ever had one was 6.5 weeks. How were your numbers?

Happy birthday Jen!!!!

And here is the number= Beta @ 475! The RE just left a message saying that the progesterone and the E2 are up and look good and not to worry. Not sure why she didn't give numbers on them?? O, well. I go back on Monday, so hopefully we'll see something.

I thought 5 wks was a little early too. When do they usually do a routine 1st U/S?

TTYS

Jennifer

Thx 4 the b-day wishes:thankyou: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Happy Birthday Jennifer!

Congrats on the great beta number! What a perfect birthday present!

I think you need an hcg around 1000 before they can see anything on u/s. I never had an u/s before 6 weeks.

Amanda

Hi Ladies.........

Today I am spotting MORE brown! Alot not a little. I'm trying not to be doubtful, but here I go again...........:disbelief (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
I'm waiting on a call from the RE. What could they possibly do? They've done everything already.
Now I understand why we might want to WAIT before telling any friends or family members. I wish this could be easy.

Jennifer

Generally brown is fine. It's the red that you want to watch out for. It could just be your little bean nestling in for a 9 month stay. :hug99:

The one thing your RE can do is reassure you that everything is fine. Hang in there!!

I'm sorry Jennifer. Some people have spotting throughout the pregnancy. Thinking sticky thoughts for you!

Amanda

Jennifer it is a great sign that your numbers are good! Unfortunately where it is too early to see anything on u/s the beta is what they can rely on at this point. From everything I have heard, brown spotting is not a concern - of course I know any spotting is hard not to worry about. Hoping you get an u/s soon!! I think routinely they aren't done until around 8 weeks but with IVF often around 6ish.

Hang in there and tell that bean to quit worrying you!

:hug99: Hang in there. I spotted sometimes even pink with my 3rd pregnancy. Up until about 8 odd weeks, everything was fine :dunno: The body is a mind boggling thing!

I think it's great your numbers are going up and I hope the next u/s brings a nice beautiful strong heartbeat :hug99:

You ladies are awesome!!

I called the Nurse again to let her know that after my accu appt. I used the restroom and the brown from earlier is now RED. She wants me to wait until tomorrow to see if I bleed through a pad. I'm most positive that it is over, but I was O, so positive that I wasn't pregnant before my first beta too, remember??
I almost can't take it any longer. I haven't told my husband, or anyone else for that matter. I will wait until tomorrow and see what happens. It hasn't quite hit me yet, but I know what I know.

You ladies have been a real strength for me, I Thank You from the bottom of my heart for everything.

oh Jennifer.... I'm sorry. It's not over till it's over.. hang in there :hug99:

I hope things turn out to be a-okay!!

Hang in there.:hug99:

I'm sorry Jennifer. Hoping good things for you!

Amanda

Thinking good thoughts for you too, Jennifer.

:pray: sticky thoughts for you Jennifer. :hug99: I hope everything is ok.

Jennifer, I'm thinking super sticky thoughts for you. Try to keep the faith until you know something. I know it's hard. Take care of yourself.
XX

Any news Jennifer?

Amanda

Hi Everyone~~


Just as I suspected, DH & I lost our pregnancy:blue: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) I felt it was too good to be true. At least for a week I got to feel like I was really going to have a baby. I dreamt infinte possibilities. This is all so devestating at this time, I'm pretty much numb. There is no more money to take another a risk without a positive outcome. I mean I WAS pregnant......The RE did his his job, for sure. IT must be me..something wrong in holding a pregnancy. O, what a nightmare.......

Thank you again ladies for all your support and compassion

:hug99: I am so very sorry Jennifer.

Jennifer, I am so sorry.

Jennifer I am so very sorry :hug99:

:blue: Life can be so unfair!

I'm so sorry Jennifer.

Amanda

:hug99:

:hug99: Oh Jennifer that sucks! Even though I lost a baby myself recently, I think it must even be worse when you loose a baby after so much effort and money.

Thinking of you!

Jennifer, I'm so very sorry for your loss... :hug99:

Jennifer words can not express the sorrow I feel for you and your dh. :hug99: You are in my thoughts and prayers. :(

Jen, I begin to tell you how sorry I am.

Omg, Jennifer... I am SO sorry for your loss. :sadhug:

Jennifer, I'm just hearbroken for you and DH :( This is so unfair.

Oh Jen.... :hug99: I'm so sorry to hear this news. :hug99:

From someone who has had 5 m/c's, I know how you feel and how hopeless it seems. Hang in there....it does get better. :hug99:

I am so sorry Jennifer.

I am so sorry to hear of your loss, Jennifer!

I'm so sorry, Jennifer. :hug99:

Jennifer~I am so sorry that I'm just getting online to hear all that's been going on and I am so very sorry for your loss. :tear: I know how difficult this is now and I very much know how dark and lonely this feels. My wish for you is that you'll be able to find peace with this soon. Once you do, you'll be able to figure out what to do next. . .. because even though now it seems like you have no more choices, you'll figure something out. We usually all do. . .and this is where the strength and perseverance that you didn't think you had, come into play. I wish you speedy healing. :hug99:

Kim

Thx Kim:hug99: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

I've been spending time with family and friends in my homestate of Ohio. It's been good for me. I'll go back to Fla on Tuesday to see the RE one last time. It's more for their records than anything else. It's the follow through to the end of the cycle. Majorly still bummed out, but really just working through some anger.
My subscription ends on the 22nd. I'm not sure if I will renew. I just want you all to know this site has been a nice personal place for me to go to when things were good and things were not so good. You all have really helped me in one way or another. I am truly thankful and grateful I had somewhere to go.

Thank you Everyone!!!:grouphugg (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
Good luck to all

Jennifer

Thinking of you Jennifer.

Amanda

Jen, I'm thinking of you, too!

Thinking of you Jennifer. :justahug:

:hug99: Jennifer

I'm so sorry Jennifer. :hug99:

I'm happy this has been a good place for you, and I hope that you continue your journy with us... whether that is right away or some time in the future. :hug99:

:hug99: Jen......

Jennifer :justahug: I'm glad being with family is helping you at this time. I'm also glad that this has been a place of support for you and hope that you decide to stick around however understand either way.


Take care of yourself!
Judy

Just also wanted to rally the troups to send :vibes:"Good IUI vibes" to Amanda today!


:crossfing Hope all goes well for you today Amanda!!!!

Good luck Amanda!!!! :crossfing

Thanks guys!
My IUI went well. Much less eventful than last cycle!!! Tom gave his :airquote: specimen :airquote: at 9:30am. I showed up at 10:45 for an 11 am IUI. My favorite nurse was there and got us in quickly. She also made sure that my RE did the procedure (it's a large group and he wasn't scheduled for procedures today). It was nice to have my 2 favorite people from the group there (the nurse and the RE). Tom produced 30 million sperm (post-wash) with 77% motile. Those are pretty good numbers. The procedure itself was a breeze but I'm having wicked cramps all day (just ovulation pain).
I have acupuncture scheduled at 4:30pm...

Amanda

Good Luck Amanda! Praying for a BFP for you!

:pray: for a successful cycle, Amanda...

Sounds like great numbers Amanda!!! Good luck!! So when is your beta?? No sticks this time!! Right???

My beta's on 10/1. I'll probably cheat but we'll see....

Amanda

No don't! Remember what happened last time..not a good idea.. Odd..I am actually trying to stop you from POAS. :lol:

Good luck, Amanda! :crossfing

Glad things went well Amanda!!

Amanda~No CHEATING! Fingers crossed for you.


Jennifer

Thanks everyone.
How are you doing Jennifer????

Amanda

Amanda~When exactly is 2ww up?

How am I doing?? It seems as though I was doing great while w/ family back home in Ohio, however, tough day when I came back to Fla. and faced MY reality. The pregnancy announcements that I ordered came in the mail. I can't believe I orderd them so soon. I was so excited. What a nightmare.:sigh: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

I went to RE yesterday for lab work and U/S. AF is still not here, although I do have some spotting which I have had since the beginning.

QUESTION: The nurse called yesterday with my beta, it was over 1000, why would my levels keep going up if I'm not pregnant? Nurse said she couldn't be sure exactly where I peaked so I go back on Friday for more blood. Also my progesterone was at 11. Would this be considered a CHEMICAL pregnancy? Does anyone know?
I guess you can only believe your pregnant once you hear a heartbeat, that seems to be a safe assumption. Maybe I was never pregnant in the first place, all those hormones maybe just make the test postive? O, I'm kinda confused.

OMG....how I hate going in there now. I was so full of hope everytime I went in and now nothing but saddness. I feel like an asshole.

I have been looking into IVF vacations. Seems pretty cheap, but as the old saying goes "you get what you pay for" LOL

I think I'm going to have to renew my subscription.

TTYS

Jennifer I hope you do. Don't go away! We can help even if it's just to be a sounding board for your vents and frustrations. We love you and wish you only the best. I am sorry that you had those annoucements to face when you got home. :hug99:

Jennifer, I hope you stay too.

Glad you were able to get away to visit family for a few days. I'm sorry that you had to get those announcements in the mail :hug99:

Oh god Jennifer, please don't feel like an asshole. You are not anything of the kind. You are a sweet person who wants to have a child, and you were excited because you received a positive result. Any of us would have done the same thing.

I think you were pg, but I guess I am not doctor....a beta of 1000 seems awfully high for residual hormones... I can check it out online if you like... Sometimes it's easier if someone else (who is impartial and not emotionally attached) does your research...at least I find that to be true in my case. I am fine to research my son's cancer...until I hit a statistic or percentage...and the reality of his longtime prognosis is driven home. I HATE that! So I have a friend filter research for me and take out all the damn percentages, and just leave the helpful tips and info.

I also found that helpful when researching getting pg. I just preferred to not hear the percentages and statistics.

We are all here for you, please just let us know how we can help.

We would also love it if you renewed.

Amanda, I am crossing everything and praying for this cycle!

And go ahead and cheat if you want to...What the heck, right? October is a lucky month...Most of my fav people are born in October :)

I hope you stay Jennifer!!!! I'm so sorry about the announcements. Is the RE going to follow your betas??? A beta over 1000 seems high!
Kika - I'm an October birthday, too. ;)

My beta is 10/1.

Amanda

Amanda, sending you very, very sticky vibes. :vibes:
I hope your tww goes lightning fast!

Jennifer, you shouldn't feel like an asshole. What you have been through is very real and so very painful. I know. I hope that you will resub and keep us posted on what's going on with you.

I know it's very soon to think about, but if you are ever interested in domestic adoption, we had a wonderful experience adopting our son. I also live in FL, so I could share information on resources.

Kristen

Jennifer, I'm so sorry about the pain and the emptiness. THere is nothing we can say or do to make it go away, but I hope that coming here helps just a tiny bit. I'm sorry about the disappointment in seeing the announcements.....

:hug99:

I am just joining this forum and I have to say...yesterday was the first time I'd ever been on this site and I started reading this thread from the very first post and even though I wasn't here and posting back in May, I feel like I went through all of the emotions, frustrations, excitement, letdowns, disappointments, celebrations, etc, etc. with each of you on this thread.



Wow.



I sat at my desk for over 3 hours, crying and then laughing and then crying again with you guys. My heart goes out to all of you.



My husband and I have been TTC for over 2 years now and we've just begun (for the second time around) infertility treatments. I had a HSG test 2 days ago, THAT really hurt. Apparently one of my tubes was slightly blocked and with the dye, my doctor basically forced it open. OUCH! So this morning my DH shot me in the stomach with the Ovidrel, tomorrow at 8:00 we're supposed to drop off a sperm sample and then I'm to go back at 10:45 for the IUI. This is all a first for me, so I'm really nervous and really scared that it won't work. I know I shouldn't say that, but this has been a lot of stress and I'm just ready for a BFP!



After reading about what Judy, Kim, Amanda, Jenn and some others and what they went through/are going through doesn't even start to compare with my measly little stress. But at the same time, it's a lot for me and I came here to give support as well as to get support from people that share this pain and know what it's like to go month, after month ,after month and no pregnancy.



With that being said I can finally say now what I felt yesterday before my account was activated and I could post my thoughts-



Judy: I'm so sorry for what you went through, I hope that you are still finding peace in staying busy… Your BFP is definitely out there!



Haydee: (late) Congrats! I’m so sorry about your SIL.



Kim: I hope Nicholas is keeping you busy, and possibly keeping your mind off of everything! And (late) Congrats!



Jennifer: I am so, so terribly sorry about your loss. And you’re not an asshole. I would’ve done the exact same thing. Don’t lose hope…



Amanda: I am crossing my fingers for you, I can only imagine how slow the 2ww is; I’ll start that wait tomorrow myself!



And everyone else: I hope that I can offer support whenever it’s needed!



I look forward to talking with all of you.



~V

Hey Veronica!! Good luck with your IUI!! I hope you get the bfp you have been looking for.

Welcome Veronica! Wow you read the whole thread? Major Kudos to you!! I do appreciate it though. Let us know how everything goes today! I honestly think that the first one is the hardest as you are learning the routine etc. And hopefully you won't need a second IUI. I'm glad you joined us and hope your journey is quicly met by a BFP!!

Jennifer, you were definitely pregnant, are still pregnant if your beta is that high. I would go back about 5 days - week from the last draw and have them compare the numbers. You just want to make sure that everything is going down as expected. I'm sorry you got the announcements. Ouch, that hurts :hug99: don't feel like you jumped the gun, you were looking for a way to share your joy which is admirable. And I hope you are able to order them again in the future. I am glad you are renewing!

Amanda, have you started testing yet? :secret: ;) Actually, what is your plan for the TWW, are you waiting for beta?

So not much going on with me :whistle: waiting game which I'm ok with at this point. I had sort of a tough birthday. The day was good but I don't like the statistical bracket I landed in. Though Kika, I fully agree with what you said about ignoring them! And its hard to keep in mind that stats don't break down to individual odds. Anyway, we were adopted by a stray cat it appears so we've been kept busy treating her fleas, ear infection, fur mats etc before we can consider bringing her inside to see how she does with our spoiled kitty. I am enjoying the distraction, she is sweet and I hope it all works out.

Welcome, Veronica!! :wavey: I hope you get your BFP soon!!!

Jennifer, everything you're feeling is valid. You WERE pregnant, and normal pregnant women do get excited about it! I also felt stupid 'cause we told people about my first pregnancy and they were still calling to congratulate me when I had to tell them it didn't work out.

A beta of 1000 sounds very high to me. Keep an eye on it and make sure it goes down. You don't want to struggle with other complications. I was 6w4d when I m/c and three days after the m/c my beta was below 20.

After reading about what Judy, Kim, Amanda, Jenn and some others and what they went through/are going through doesn't even start to compare with my measly little stress. But at the same time, it's a lot for me and I came here to give support as well as to get support from people that share this pain and know what it's like to go month, after month ,after month and no pregnancy.




~V

Veronica, welcome!:wavey:

Good luck with your journey ahead. It may seem that there are other people with a lot worse situations than you, but your struggle is YOUR struggle and just because it differs from someone elses doesn't make it any less of a struggle for you or any less valid of a struggle. I hope this cycle is the miracle one!

HI All~~

Welcome Veronica~ WOW...the whole thread? I guess this stuff is pretty interesting after all. LOL
Yes, I agree that HSG test is no laughing matter. I had two done in the last few years. Not very nice. Good luck to you and with your IUI:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Thanks guys! I just dropped of :airquote: the sample :airquote: and I have to tell this: it's too funny not to share.

As I was trying to hurry out the door and juggle all of the things in my hand, the jar with the sample, two bottles of water (got to drink plenty), my coffee, my purse, cell phone, and my peanut butter toast; I dropped the sample jar onto my peanut butter toast!!!! :duh: I wiped the peanut butter off and had to go on! No harm done, just a jar that smells like peanut butter, bu I am sure that will be the first for the lab tech! :loser:

Okay, so...I go in about an hour and 35 mintues to get the IUI. I'm so nervous and yes, it being the first time is very, um, overwhelming!

Here goes!!! :crossfing

Thinking good thoughts for you today, Veronica...... :hug99:

Thanks so much guys...this is just what I needed!



I have a concern, it doesn't involve me but worries me a lot. My best friend is about 5 weeks along and this week she started spotting, mostly brown, but one instance she had a slight tinge of pink. Her betas this week went from 1050 to 1162 and her progesterone level was around 11. They gave her the progesterone suppositories and she's been using them all week. She's just a mess right now, she feels like she's losing the baby. She won't have another beta until Monday. She thinks that her beta should be around 3000. Is that right? What do you guys think?



I'm so worried about her. I'm trying not to stress out too much, since this is my big day, but I can't help but worry about my best friend. It's awful!



What should I do, what should I say?

Good Luck, Veronica!!!! :crossfing

Jen, :hug99: Sweetie, has your doctor mentioned anything about a possible molar pregnancy? IIRC, that could be a reason for your beta not going down. I hope it's not that, but it's a good thing to try to rule out. :hug99:

Kim~ I just wanted to pop in and tell you that you crossed my mind when I was in Dallas last weekend. My best friend just recently became a foster mom to a little boy named Nathaniel who will be 1 in a few days... they get to adopt him in February... AND she just found out she is pregnant on Saturday... :lol: It made me think of you! :hug99:

IUI went well. :phew:

DH had 122 Million little guys that were good--needless to say he's a "proud man" today! :bliss:

Now I start the dreaded 2ww...

Welcome to the TWW Veronica!! :silly: hang in there its a very exciting ride!!!


Regarding your friend, I don't think any of us are going to be able to provide guidence. Really the evauation of a beta has to be between 2 tests and you didn't mention the time frame between the 2 but as a rule of thumb it should double every 48-72 hours.

Glad everything went well for you today!!

Welcome to the 2ww Veronica! It's nice to have company to suffer with me. I hope this is your lucky cycle.

Amanda

Veronica~~That is efffing hilarious about he peanut butter......Good luck on your 2 WW

Kristen~I would love any information you have on adoption. Although I don't think I am quite there yet, it would be nice to have a place to go if I need to go there. I have NO idea where to start that process. That would be very kind of you. Thx!!

My beta has gone down to somewhere in the 700s. RE can't seem to find anything inside my uterus. He did mention a "Blighted Ovum" I looked it up and basically is a fancy word for a miscarriage. I guess the fetilized egg attached itself to the wall, but just didn't grow. We never did see anything from the beginning. I never heard of a mention of a "molar pregnancy" Anyway RE says one more lab on Wednesday. I should start my regular AF they say. In the meantime, my mind wanders on where to get more $$$$$$. This is crazy.

Judy~~What is your next step? I hope the kitty brings you lots of love.
'
Jennifer

Jennifer - If your beta is coming down on its own, you don't have a molar pregnancy. I'm really sorry that you're going through this. My brother's wife recently had a similar experience (not IVF though) and it took almost a month for her beta to come down. It was SO frustrating for them.

Amanda

Glad your IUI went well Veronica. About your friend... it's very difficult.... my doc always says spotting/bleeding is never good. I had a little bit of brown spotting around 6w, but it was only there when I wiped. Doc put me on progesterone supps and I never had any problems again. However, it differs from person to person.

The following website has nice info about beta numbers:http://www.betabase.info/

Amanda, any early symptoms we can obsess about??? When's your beta??

:hug99: Jennifer, I will just agree with everyone else, you are not an ass, you reacted the way any normal person would!! :hug99:

Veronica: Pats on the back for your husbands peanut butter enhanced sample! that is a heck of a lot of sperm!!! I hope this IUI does the trick for you and the 2WW isn't too painful!

Amanda: I am getting so excited for you! this has to be it!

Thanks Haydee and Deb. I'm doing a pretty good job of not obsessing this time. Anyone who remembers my last cycle knows that this is a major accomplishment!!! :giggle: I was waiting for Tom to get home last night for dinner and I got this feeling that I was going to faint if I didn't eat that minute. That could be because I had a long day and didn't eat enough or it could be a good sign. Only time will tell. We still haven't decided what we'll do about POAS. I'm not as excited about it as usual but I think Tom wants to do our usual - test once 7 DPIUI to see if the hcg shot is gone and then test every other day until beta day (10/1).

Amanda

Amanda, that is very cute that Tom wants you to test. :love1: That shows how excited his is, too!

Thanks again, everyone! And thanks Haydee for the website link. I'll go check it out!

Yes the 2ww has already begun...11 more days. I don't think that I can wait to POAS until my 28th day. :bitenails

I've seen many of the "early pregnancy tests", but are any brands "better" than others? Do the early pregnancy tests versus the regular tests make a big difference?

Amanda: Tom sounds very optimistic that is awesome! :wub1:

Jen, I'm sorry you're having a rough time. :( PM me if you end up with a molar (which I doubt you have) because I can give you some first hand info on that. :hug99:

I didn't read everything just caught the mention of the word molar and naturally I got obsessive about it. :lol:

Welcome Bama! (Veronica? :scratch: ) Good luck!

Amanda, good luck to you! :crossfing

Jenn, To this comment: I should start my regular AF they say. In the meantime, my mind wanders on where to get more $$$$$$. Well, this sounds like you're back to being positive! I'm glad to hear this change in tone....don't give up!

Judy: You're right about the advice to my friend. She had a test again on Saturday and her hcg is now at 1843, the levels are still going up, but they are not doubling. According to the link that Haydee gave me, betabase.com, and pregnancyloss.com, these signs are not good. I just don't know what to say to her. I feel so terrible. :sad:

Amanda: How are you passing the time??? What day is your 7dpiui?

Amanda: Wait a minute, today is 7dpiui right? How's it looking?

Hi Ladies~~ I've renewed........Not only to get support but to give it as well.

Jennifer

I'm glad you renewed, Jen. :hug99: Explore the rest of the board too!! :) Lots of interesting threads out there.....lots of friends to be made. :hug99:

Welcome Veronica! I hope your 2ww is going by quickly!!!

Amanda, can't wait to hear what you decide regarding early testing!

Keeping my fingers crossed that you both get a BFP!!!!!!!

Veronica, here is a site that has a pretty comprehensive list of different brands of HPTs and their sensitivity levels:

http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html

I believe that it really does not matter if it's a brand name or a Dollar store test-in fact, the DS tests are more sensitive than a lot of more expensive tests......

hope this helps....

Jen, just PM me if and when you are ready for the adoption info. Ill be happy to tell you everything I know! I'm so glad that you resubbed!

I'm happy to see you're still here Jennifer!!! We're here for you.
Veronica - How are you doing?
I haven't tested yet. I may test at the end of the week or over the weekend. Not sure what I think right now. Luckily I've been super busy so I haven't had time to obsess.

Amanda

OMG! I wish that I was too busy to obsess!!!! :bitenails I'm doing just fine, I don't feel any different yet? But I'm sure that it's way too early! :whistle:

Jen: I'm so glad that you renewed! :woot:

Lena: Thanks for the link...I'll go check it out!

I just love these little smiles, they're so much fun! :silly:

Veronica - You should have seen me last cycle. I was a total mess! :lol:

Amanda

Amanda! :rotflmao: This must be a sign...you're not stressing/obsessing, and watch out, you'll probably get your BFP!

Seriously, how soon do you start to feel "different"? The only difference that I feel is serious METAL MOUTH! I feel like I've been chewing on an iron railing! :tongue2:

Thanks again, Lena that site had a lot of very helpful information.

:aok: Veronica! glad to help!

AF is here.....she's a mess, I'm a mess...I just want to cry, cry, cry.

Kristen~~Yes, I should be PMing you very soon. :hug1: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)Thx for your willingness to share. I'm still trying to get a grip, just when I think I'm fine, I'm not.......Good thing though, my mind wanders to financial resource options. I didn't think I had any left, but we'll see.:confused: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Jennifer
Thx everyone:justahug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Oh Jennifer! I'm so sorry.

Amanda

Jennifer, take all the time you need and cry when you feel like it! It's been 5 months for me and I still cry sometimes.... It does get better, but allow yourself to feel all the emotions going through you!

Jenn, I'm so, so sorry :patback:

I hope that you find some money/finances somewhere. Keep us posted on what you find out...

~V

Jennifer I am so sorry. :hug99:

Today I feel really blah, :raincloud depressed and isolated. It's probably just that the weather's icky. I'm hoping and praying that it's not PMS...If I'm not pregnant, then AF will be here in one week.:sigh:

Sorry Veronica. I know those days too well!

Amanda

Jen, I'm here when you are ready to PM. And if you are considering adoption, there are a lot of tax CREDITs available to you that really do defray the cost. So try not to stress about the money right now. Try to focus on healing and the rest you can deal with later. I'm so sorry.

Veronica, I hope that your "blahs" aren't PMS!!!! Hang in there, only a week to go! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you get your BFP!!!!

Jennifer, I'm sorry :hug99:

Veronica... hope you feel better soon... :hug99:

Kristen~:justahug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) thx so much....I'm not quite there yet.

Jennifer--I'm like you, "Where is everybody?" Then I go looking...."Aha! They're over at cycle buddies!"

So, come on over!!!! See you there...:walking:

*long sigh*

I had really hoped that this time around with the recenty HSG test and the IUI that things would be different. I had A LOT of hopes going into this cycle. I know that I probably shouldn't have had so much, but I couldn't help it. After 2 years of TTC, my patience is wearing really thin.

It's just so damn depressing! I have all of these mixed emotions, on one hand I'm mad at the world and then on the other I'm just sad and depressed. *another long sigh* Is there something wrong with me? Is it really just that the "stars have to line up"? Why is God being so unfair? Why do teenagers that don't want to be pregnant and women that have abortions when they get pregnant get "blessed" with a baby? Here I am /we are pouring our hearts out to God, praying for him to bless us with one and no....Ugh.

Why? What is "the plan" for me? Why is now not good? Why do I have to wait for so long? Do I not "want" it enough? Am I infertile? Will I ever have children? Why did I waste so much money all of those years on BCP, I couldv'e been saving that money for these damn IUI procedures!!!!
:gah:

Veronica.. i'm so so sorry you are hurting so bad. :hug99: I don't know what to say, I haven't been where you have and can't say I understand, but I emphathize with you and am here for you for anything you might need.... sorry again..

:hug99: V. I responded in the other thread. Just know that we are all here for you.

I'm sorry Veronica. Infertility is very trying. Take some time to recover.

Amanda

Veronica, I'm so sorry. I can totally relate to how you're feeling. My infertility was the hardest thing that I ever have had to deal with. It's such a rollercoaster ride. I hope that you are feeling better soon. Know that we're here for you!

Veronica, I'm so sorry. There's no easy answers. I hope you will have peace in your heart soon. The only thing I know for sure is that God knows what He's doing even if it doesn't make sense to us...

Take all the time you need to heal..

Thanks guys! I'm doing a lot better now. It's amazing how time heals us...

I'm back over at "cycle buddies" but I'm going to update here too.

Tday is CD3 for me: Dr said this morning that if my blood work is good then we can proceed this cycle. I should hear back from them today after lunch. Other than that he said that my prognosis was still good—that I’m young and everything is normal and there isn’t a pinpointed reason why I haven’t gotten pregnant yet. He said to give it more time and not loose hope. I told him that I’m not doing the IUI this time and I think that it may have shocked him, but DH and I both feel that we should give it a go on our own this cycle. If we don’t get pregnant this time around, we’ll try the IUI again in November.

I hope that we're making the right decision. I tried to explain to the dr that the IUI stresses me out and raises my hopes to a level where when it doesn't work, I get really, really dissapointed. Does that make any sense to you guys? Am I going to kick myself if I don't get pregnant on my own? :colfish:

~V

Hi my lovely lady friends! :grouphugg:

I tried to catch up on this thread quickly. . .

Veronica~Welcome. I so very much understand your ups and downs and frustrations.

Jen~I'm so sorry about what you've had to go through with this. My 1st m/c was a blighted ovum.

Amanda~:crossfing

I can't stay long, but I've missed you all and think about you everyday. I'm so crazy busy. . .in short, Nicholas is still with us and doing great. Pregnancy is still going well and I'm just starting to tell people. I was really tired all the time and I was waking up all hours of the night to feed Nicholas, so each day, I did the minumum of what I needed to get through the day. I'm 12 weeks and 6 days. We have to get rid of our dog Rosie and are currently in jeapordy of being sued regarding a dog bite. (The person (16yr old girl) is completely fine, it just looks like the family wants to make some money). I've had a bad case of poison ivy that is just starting to go away, and I got bit by friggin' dog tick yesterday right on my stomach. (Kent had to tweezer it out, I called a Dr., I should be fine, still checking on it), and I've still been working full time!! :pullhair: I've requested a month off (which I can take because of the Family Leave Act which includes Foster care) between Oct. 15 and Nov. 15th so I hope to be able to catch up with everyone then.

I miss you and will be back soon,

xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Kim

Kim!!! :bliss: I'm so excited to hear from you!!! :hug99: I'm so glad everything is going okay and it sounds like it'll continue to go great. I've been thinking about you a lot and hoping that everything is going well. :hug99:

Definitely let us know how everything is going and post some belly pics.....and join the pg forum!! :banana:

Kim, SO good to hear from you and to hear you are doing so good!!! Yeah for almost at 2nd trimester!!!!!! I'm so thrilled for you!! :bliss:

Kim! I can't believe all that's happened to you AND you're holding down a full time job! Whew!!!! :bitenails And I thought that my life was crazy right now....I'm so glad to see you back...even if it's just temporarily. I can't wait until the 15th, I'm expecting to see more of you. Congrats on 13 weeks too!!!! :bliss:

If you don't find us...we're all over on Cycle Buddies!!!!! :bolt:

Kim I have been thinking about you and praying that your absence did not mean something bad. I am glad to hear that you have been tired with the pregnancy and things are going well!! Enjoy it!! As you already know...pregnancy truly is a miracle and blessing!!! Enjoy every moment of it!! :hug99:

Glad that you're doing great Kim! When you're 'less busy', join us on the pregnancy thread!!

:woot:

I just picked up my basal thermometer and a box of OPT strips. With all of this and the Femera I feel really confident about everthing this time around. I should be Oing this weekend so DH and I have a romantic weekend planned with lots and lots of :sex: (but without the cigs of course... ;-)

I just talked to my nurse and she said that I may not neccessarily need the Ovidrel. But if I haven't O'd by Monday, then they'll go ahead and tell me when to trigger and then they'll tell us when to BD next week...

I'm just hoping that I O on my own this weekend...that would be so nice. :wub1:

~V

Melissa: Are you ready this time around? I don't know about you, but I'm starting to feel like a scientific experiment-I've tested, temped, charted, and laid for 15 minutes with my legs in the air. Then I turn around and go to the RE and I get stuck, poked, prodded, and measured. Isn't it funny how you forget all about modesty when going through infertility treatments?

Appointment went good this morning...I've got 2 good follies in my right ovary, one measuring 14mm and the other measuring 16mm. They'll be calling me later today to tell me whether or not I will need to do the Ovidrel...we shall see.

Good luck V

Good luck!

Good luck!!!

Amanda

Good Luck V!!!:)

Thanks guys! :wavey:

I got the call from the nurse and she told me that I wasn't ovulating yet-that my body was "being really slow". Which I'm thinking is okay since it will give the follies more time to grow, they need to be at least 20mm. I am to go back in Thursday morning. Thursday seems like a long time away, I just hope they're right. In the meantime (Are you paying attention Melissa? :devildanc :giggle: ) DH and I will continue our :sex: ...

Yeah!! Glad things are progressing V!! Just keep up the fun and drown those follies with little swimmers! (I think that's how I got preggies this time - too much fun....KWIM).

Good luck, V!!!!!!

I'm doing the best I can with this darn cold...:sick:

Bring on the :brow: , V!!! :aok:

Thanks guys!

Melissa: I'm so sorry you feel so bad...don't give up! You can do it, you can do it!!!!:woot2:

Yeah!! Glad things are progressing V!! Just keep up the fun and drown those follies with little swimmers! (I think that's how I got preggies this time - too much fun....KWIM).

Yeah, IKWYM!!!!! :hi5:

I posted this in the "Cycle Buddies" forum...but I wanted to post the " informative/high tech" stuff here...

Had bloodwork done this mornng to see if I O'd yet. As I suspected, I already O'd...Not confirmed yet, (waiting on bloodwork) but the u/s looks like I did. Ugh. See previous post http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1088822&postcount=619. I knew it...I feel like they left me hanging out to dry. We were supposed to do timed intercourse and they never told me when to BD...and what frustrates me more is I used the OPK tests and they never showed anything and also, no CM at. all. none.

I think that I O'd on Monday (see my FF chart) and that was the one day that we didn't BD...simply because RE nurse told me "Your body is being really slow, we would like to see you on Thursday". Damn it, I could just scream at them!!!!! :gah:

I had the pinching/pulling O pains all day yesterday. Do you guys usually get them a few days after O??? They are supposed to call me later today to confirm the day that I O'd, but until then, what do you guys think?

Hmph....so much for "high tech", huh?

Another update...

Just got the call. RE nurse said that I probably O'd on Tuesday or Wednesday-So, I'm not as irritated as I was. She said that since we BD on Sunday, Tuesday and last night, she felt confident that we covered our bases. I'm still a little irritated that they didn't tell me exactly when to BD as in "Timed Intercourse" because I specifically told them that was what I wanted to do this cycle...but I'm okay. At least I listened to my gut feelings and did what I thought I needed to do with or without their help. It's a damn good thing that my insurance is covering all of this because I don't need blood work or an ultrasound to tell me that I've ovulated...
Do I sound bitter or what? :angrywife

Okay...now I'm starting to feel like I've turned this into my very own TTC journal....Sorry guys... :blush:

:bolt:

No worries V!

I know sharing your experiences here is very helpful to others, especially since I am pretty sure this thread shows up with some google searches.

Keep sharing!

V....All this infertility mess does suck, truly!!! I can relate to the feeling like a science experiment, it's humiliating! I'm glad you're doing better!

Kim~ Thanks for the update, I was starting to wonder where you've been. Although I now know how easy it is to NOT do the most mundane things when your so busy all the time. (A deer tick??) That's crazy!!!!

DH and I haven't really discussed our next step. I don't see us doing anything until the 1st of the year or after. Everytime I turn around those bitches in the magazines are getting pregnant and having twins.....I'm sooo jealous!!! Honestly I think we could be at the end of our conceiving journey.....I'm going to wait a couple more months, then figure out what to do next. The thought of not being a mother and having my own children is an effffing nightmare......
But alas, (VERY LONG SIGH) I'm working through it...blah, blah, blah:tapfoot: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Jennifer

Jennifer I am sorry to hear that you may be at the end of your journey. I pray that something happens and you get to be a mother. :hug99: Thinking of you and keeping you in my prayers!

I'm so sorry Jennifer.

Amanda

Jennifer.. :hug99:

I am so sorry you have to deal with this, Jennifer :hug99:

Oh Jennifer. I am so sorry. The magazines and TV make it look so easy, and we all know it's not.

Oh girl....I'm so glad to see you back...obviously, I'd rather see you in the Pregnancy Forums... :hug99:

I know that you're probably tired of hearing this, I know that I certainly am, but maybe when you least expect it, you'll get preggie!!!! :pray:

There is ALWAYS hope...it's just a matter of how patient can we be while we're waiting on the things that we want the most.

Jen, I'm so glad to see you back. I'm sorry that you're having to deal with all these difficult decisions!:hug99:

OMG..I just typed a whole effffing 3 paragraphs and in sending I lost it somehow...will post tomorrow.................uggghhhhhhgggghhhh

I'm so sorry that you lost everything that you typed! I hate when that happens! :fado:

But please come back and tell us what's on your mind. We are here for you....

~V

That is a pain in the arse Jennifer. :badcomput

What a PITA to have to type everything over! I'm sorry!

What a PITA to have to type everything over! I'm sorry!

Kristen~~ I think I'm ready for the adoption information.....

I met this young women on a flight yesterday holding her 4 month old little girl Nadia. I was instantly drawn to them both. The mother was deaf and I felt so sorry for both of them, until it was obvious they were both in love with eachother. I asked to hold the baby and all I could do was coo, awwwww and cuddle, I wanted to cry my eyes out. :cry: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) It's not like everyday I get to hold and infant in my arms. The mother then told me she was going back to her mothers as the father of Nadia was abusing the baby. She motioned to me that the father was covering the babys mouth when she was crying. He got arrested. Obviously I don't have all the information as it was hard for us to communicate.
Anyhow, my thoughts were, there has to be some little baby or child that needs love and attention and is just not getting it. I'm sure thousands of children. Maybe, just maybe I could go the adoption route. I could of eaten this little one up,:loveeyes: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) she was sooooo, soooo cute. Not my own, but I felt Something. It was strong.
So long story short, I don't know where to go from here. Who do I talk to, how do I start the process? :dunno: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
I appreciate any help you can give me. Thx sooo much
:hug1: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Hey ladies. . .:yippee: I'm so glad that I had a short moment to stop by and get caught up. It's about 10:45, waaaay past my bedtime these days so. . .


Everytime I turn around those bitches in the magazines are getting pregnant and having twins.....I'm sooo jealous!!! Honestly I think we could be at the end of our conceiving journey.....I'm going to wait a couple more months, then figure out what to do next. The thought of not being a mother and having my own children is an effffing nightmare......
But alas, (VERY LONG SIGH) I'm working through it...blah, blah, blah

Jen~You sound so much like how I've sounded. . .and I totally understand. But get this, if you really, really, really want this to happen, it will. No, it may not happen exactly the way you want, but it can and will happen. Remember that after my 7th failed IVF, I was devastated and sure that it was over. . .I really wasn't even in the mood to adopt, feeling like the Universe was trying to tell me something about my parenting skills. My initial reaction to donor egg pregnancy was absolutely not! And then, like an epiphany, I decided that if I wanted to get pregnant, that I was going the DE route. After my first attempt failed, I thought it was over. . .and just when I did, DH and I sat down, looked at our finances and took out a huge loan. This time it worked :bliss: and we are still in debt, but I have confidence that in the end, we'll be fed, housed, and warm. No, we might not be able to take a vacation for 25 yrs. . .boo hoo :patback:. And then with little Nicholas. . .we took a chance. We decided to take the classes through Social Services. I literally told DH that it's just like Drivers Ed. . .just because we take the classes, doesn't mean we have to buy the car. We did it while we were in limbo with the DE cycle not even thinking that we would really be placed with a child. And lo' and behold, we were given this beautiful and awesome little boy! It's easy for me to talk now, since things are going well for me of course. I just wanted to remind you that, in the end, even MY long and sordid 7 year journey seemed to have paid off.

V~Wishing you tons of luck! :crossfing:

Amanda~?????? Is this good news in your picture profile signature? :awink:


So now I've been off for a few days and I'm still completely busy. Now, I'm trying to catch up a bit on house cleaning, changing linens, etc from summer to Fall, writing thank you notes, catching up with a huge pile of mail, and yes, of course, taking care of Nicholas. I haven't been able to nap when he naps, but I'm getting close to catching up on everything I let go since Nicholas arrived in late July. My pregnancy is going well. I'm 15w5d. :phew: So, it's looking good and I'm getting more confident. I even bought a pair of maternity pants. Now, that is a big step for me. My eyese are starting to close now, but I'll be back soon.

Best wishes to everyone,

Kimberly

Jen... :hug99:

Kim, it is SO good to see u around here!!! :bliss: i'm glad you are doing so good, I'm so happy for you! Please keep us updated when you can, we know you are super busy and super tired.....

Kim! I'm so happy for you...honestly...tears were welling up in my eyes when I read that you were buying maternity pants! I know that I was a very late subscriber...but I did read ALL that you guys went through and I can NOT express just how happy I am for you. I'm sure that you were able to give Jen hope that she so desperately needs right now....We are all praying for her.

Thank you again for coming back and giving us ALL hope and giving us an update on your life-please come back soon! :wub1:

Today is 11DPO...and I just couldn't wait, so I bought a First Response HPT and it was a BFN. :mope:
Well....I should've known better. Damn stick....:evilhpt:
Maybe it's just too early. :crossfing I've got another test in the box and I'm NOT.GOING.TO.POAS.UNTIL.TUESDAY....or maybe Monday....

:giggle:

Kim~Thank you sooooo much for your words of inspiration. I know it wasn't easy for you. 7 failed IF treatments is enough to wanna go mental, I'm sure. You sure proved alot of stamina. I just got to get my mojo back. I gotta focus and talk to the right people. I' really admire you and all that you've been through. Thank you Kim!:hug1: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

V~ You make me smile, your sooo funny! Good luck on Tuesday :shhh:Monday!!!

J

Jen I don't have the right words or anything inspirational like Kim. I can however say this. Search your heart. Talk to your dh. Then the two of you do what feels right. If it's taking out a loan and going to the next step then by all means do it. If it moves you to save a child through adoption then do that. You have to stay true to yourself. You proved to yourself that you can love any child as long as s/he is in your arms and needs you. I believe you will get your child and be a perfect mother. I pray for you and your dreams to come true. :hug99:

Kim: I am so happy for you. Tears just flowed down as I read your post. I am so glad things are finally going in your favor. Reading about you buying maternity pants just tore me up with excitement. Try and post a picture of that beautiful belly when you get a chance. :hug99:

V: Girl you are a nut and I love you but stay away from them sticks girl. They will drive you nuts...at least until Tuesday. :giggle:

Thanks Jennifer! :hug99:

Okay...I did good. I didn't POAS!!!! But now I'm getting really nervous! My temps are still high and if I go by the drop in temp two weeks ago, I O'd on CD14. According to my RE, "I O'd on either CD14 or CD15". So, I'm either 12DPO or 13DPO. Last month my LP was only 10 days!!!! :bitenailsBut I'm beginning to think that last month was an anomaly.

I had one day of CM this month...and it was after I O'd...so I think it was really semen. I always have CM each cycle. So, these last two weeks I haven't put ANY faith into the thought that I might be pg. So, if AF doesn't come today, I'll POAS tomorrow morning...or tonight... :giggle:

~V

Thank you ladies!!:thankyou: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Jen,

I just pm'd you my email and phone number. After my IVF failed, and the doctor told me that my FSH was so high that it was unlikely that even IVF would help, I was devastated. Adopting Fen was the best thing that has ever happened to us. We picked him up from the hospital when he was two days old and have fallen a little more in love with him (if that's even possible) every day since. He's ours. He couldn't be more loved and cherished by our families. When people say "he's so lucky to have parents like you", I think that in reality WE are the lucky ones. I didn't save him, he saved me.

Call or write when you're ready.

K

Kristen, I find it amazing that you can love someone elses child as your own. With DD I've been willing to give up all our financial security and everything we needed to in order to get the adoption through! Luckily we didn't have to, but I was amazed at the lengths I was willing to go through to keep her.

When people say "he's so lucky to have parents like you", I think that in reality WE are the lucky ones. I didn't save him, he saved me.

K

:cry: I'm just speechless...

~V

Kristen that is just so sweet and I :bawl: as I read your post.

PS: I didn't know you were in Tampa...heck girl I am right here in Brandon!!!

I live over in the Lake Magdalene area, not far from Brandon at all!

Kristen~

I got your PM. Thank you SOOOOOOOO much. I will be in touch.

J
P.S.
I'm in Fort Luaderdale....

Haydee, it is amazing how quickly another woman's biological child becomes yours. We recently went to an open house at our adoption agency and it was amazing to see all the children running around. There were couples there that were contemplating adoption and couples that were on the waiting list. DH and I agreed that if our story gave even one couple hope of being parents then we would be happy! I still hope every month that AF won't show...but when she does it doesn't devastate me like it used to.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the IVF forum!

V, how are things?

Jenn, how are you?

Happy Thanksgiving!

Hi

Happy Post Thanksgiving and Pre Holiday Rush........Just came back from Ohio visiting the family. Fun!

DH wasn't able to come with me, so we celebrated last night when I came home. Real FUN!! DH called me on Thanksgiving day to inform me that my SIL is pregnant.:jawdrop: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):cry: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) The thing is she doesn't take care of the two she already has. Yes, I am jealous, and angry. I dislike her even more now than I did before. What do I say, "Congratulations" or just punch her lights out. She has this thing with me. Well, we are totally two different people, with completely different lifestyles. When we told her we were pregnant, she didn't sound so sincere with her well wishes. Part of me thinks she did this on purpose. I mean it's only been two months since we lost our pregnancy....Come to think of it, she was looking rather large-er the last time I saw her. She must have known then, just didn't tell me. This sucks guys. It will be a constant reminder of my loss......How do I get past this???
My heart breaks for my husband. The only thing I can't give him, a baby. This is the worst feeling......
In the meantime, Kristen, I haven't forgotten about you. I'm just waiting until the beginning of the year to start another process. We are looking at going overseas for an IVF cycle, half the cost in Hungary, also in the Czech Republic.....OR possibly the adoption route........I've been doing pretty good, until this news.....I cried for two days.
I hope you all are well and ovulating and POAS like normal. I read your posts, it seems like everyone is moving right along.
TTYS

Jennifer

Jen, I absolutely know where you're coming from. :hug99: I'm surrounded by pg women (it seems) and it's hard to not be jealous (amongst other feelings). Having gone through this multiple times, the only thing that really works is time. :hug99: One day at a time and focus on moving yourself forward. If I dwell too much on what could have been, I feel worse.....focus on today and plan for tomorrow. :hug99:

Kristen, you didn't hijack this forum! I'm glad that you come around and care enough to post....

I'm doing okay. Just waiting to start...I've been having AF cramps since Saturday, so I am anticipating AF any day now. Oh well, at least I haven't waisted any money on HPT since my body has already "informed" me!

Jennifer, I'm so sorry about your evil SIL...too bad that you can't choose your family members like you can your friends!

And please don't be so hard on yourself. I know how it feels to not be able to "give your husband a baby", but you have given him your heart and he knows that it's not your fault. :hug99:

Good luck with the IVF overseas, it sounds like a great idea!

.....focus on today and plan for tomorrow. :hug99:

I couldn't have said it better, Shannon. :hug99:

:hug99: Jennifer, life just sucks sometimes!

I'm in the exact same situation, with the exception that I'm thankfully on the other side. My SIL got pregnant with IVF one week before I found out that I was pregnant. We were pregnant together for 3 months when she lost her baby.

Because I had a m/c before, I totally knew and understood how difficult it was to be around pregnant women. And it was really difficult 'cause SIL and I used to e-mail every day and share our symptoms and fears. Then suddenly she didn't have a baby anymore.

So I e-mailed her and told her that I totally understands if she doesn't want any contact with me for a while and that I will not contact her until I hear from her first - that she is okay and that she can deal with it. I'm also a constant reminder of what she could've had. About 3 months after the m/c she contacted me for the first time and told me that she really appreciated my understanding and me giving her space to deal with it. We're talking now on a weekly basis, but I do not tell her ANYTHING about the baby, unless she specifically asks. And usually she asks about the baby in every e-mail.

It's easier to understand once you've lost a baby yourself. If you need to distance yourself from SIL, then do that. And if she's being difficult about that, then tell her exactly how you feel and how difficult it is. Remember, your well being is more important than what they think and what they expect of you!

Thx!!!

Hayde~WOW, what a situation. That cannot be easy for either of you. I realize it's my problem, and I am dealing with it, sort of. Tomorrow will be the first time I see SIL......I could just bring it up and feign sincerity or I could wait to see if she brings it up, either way I'll probably want to cry my eyes out. I need to be prepared.
DH says "Why wouldn't you want to congratulate them, it's common courtesy?" Huh, like um last time I checked, it's common courtesy to say your "sorry to hear about your loss" after we've spent so much time & money trying to get pregnant and then lost it. They never had to do this IVF, all they have to do is lie down.................they don't understand........

O.k....pity party OVER........moving on, but you're right.....IT SUCKS.....getting pregnant should be a natural god-given womanly right.....somehow I'm overlooked..................

Thx for all of your input, I do appreciate it.

Jennifer, have as many pity parties as you need! And put your own emotions FIRST!!

You NEED to grief and deal with your pain in your own way. If that means staying away from family (especially pregnant SIL's) then do that. They don't NEED you to share their joy, they WANT it. But what you need and what they want may be totally different things. Getting through this tough time is more important than pretending to share their joy.

I do think that it makes a difference if a woman has lost a baby herself. It's much easier to try and understand what other women are going through, than if you never had to deal with a loss. So your family will probably not understand, but they don't have to....

Jennifer I'm sorry you have to deal with this, you've gotten some really good support here and these smart ladies are right, you do have to keep your emotions first, heck they are going to bubble up and take over if you don't :nod: And I agree that people don't know what to do with loss unless they have been there.

That being said - Haydee, huge kudos to you for reaching out the way you did when you were on the other side of this fence. Speaking from someone in just about the same boat as your SIL only in my case it was my BF, when she did the same thing it meant the world. It meant she understood and was going to support me.

Your so right Haydee! I think staying away from SIL is the best thing for now. Turns out we were both invited to a party for a mutual friend, I couldn't miss it. As soon I walked in, SIL was the first person I saw...like a magnet...strange....anyway I was cordial, said hello and gave her a hug. Futher in the evening I found it funny how NOT ONE person, SIL nor BIL mentioned the pregnancy. I thought of bringing it up just to get it over with but I couldn't do it. It was very awkward. Maybe they think they shouldn't mention it, who knows...............They definately don't understand, they don't need to, & that's ok.
I areally apprciate your feedback. Even more because you've been in this situation.

Jenn, it will be awkward for a while. I still find it awkward with SIL.

I think the fact that they did not mention anything about the pregnancy is their way of supporting you and I think they're trying. I'm doing the same with SIL. I said to her that I will not discuss this pregnancy unless she asks me about it as I don't want to go on and on about how happy I am and hurt her in the process.

The simple principle is that one cannot have ones joy take precedence over someone else's hurt.

And the fact that you cannot share their experience at this stage doesn't make you selfish, it makes you human.

Something that also made it easier for me to understand how SIL must be feeling is looking back at how I dealt with my m/c. I couldn't stand being around pregnant women and the only thing that kept me going was reading and researching about how soon I can get pregnant again. But SIL doesn't even have that. It's not only the loss she's dealing with, but also dealing with the fact that she can't have children. So in a limited capacity, I could understand how devastated she felt.

Maybe you'll feel better about the "awkwardness" if you send them an e-mail and tell them how you'd like them to respond to your situation.... Just a thought... But once again, every person deals with it differently, so you have to decide what you're feeling up to right now....

Good luck, there's still a long road ahead!! :hug99:But I think you've made huge strides just showing up at the party - you could've stayed at home and come up with an excuse, but you didn't.

For now, just allow yourself to BE.

Kim, it's time to check in again!!!

Oh Haydee....Thank you, Thank you, thank you for your support.........

Oh Haydee....Thank you, Thank you, thank you for your support.........

Glad to be of help! PM me if you need to talk.

I also wanted to say that if you're considering IVF in another country to look at South Africa as well. Many people come here as it's much cheaper especially with the exchange rate $1 = R7. Check out this website: http://www.tertia.org/

It's a SA woman who had 9 IVF cycles before falling pregnant. You can ask her questions on her blog as well.

Jen, I am sorry you are dealing with all of this. I really am. I agree with you, getting pregnant should be easy, and a god given right. I wish this were true for you.

I agree with Haydee, too. I think sometimes people don't know what to say- or if they should say anything at all- so they say nothing. I cringe when I think back to when my BFF was trying to conceive 7 years ago. She suffered a miscarriage first, and then an ectopic pregnancy. I know I tried to dismiss her fears, concerns, and anxiety. It wasn't because I didn't think they were real; I did. But I wanted to erase her pain SO badly that I tried to minimize her fears. I was 26, and my only experience with pregnancy were unintended pregnancies...At the time, I had never "tried", and I have never had a miscarriage. Her pain wasn't on my radar. I kept telling her to "relax" (I know, I know, I can't believe I said that), and that I just knew it would happen for her soon. So instead of offering support, I came across as another person who didn't understand and made her feel isolated and lonely. I think back to those times, and I want to apologize, but I can't find the words...and I am afraid to re-open old wounds...so I say nothing :bawl:.

Looking back, my BFF did distance herself from me a little. And at the time, I realized it and understood, but felt powerless because I believed I could not offer anything else.

Take care of yourself first.

Haydee, you are an angel.

:hug99: Jennifer, Haydee has said it all, so I won't say anything else but that you continue to be in my thoughts.

Jennifer, Haydee put it better than I could, but I want you to know that I'm thinking of you!

FINALLY! I'm so happy to have a chance to post and catch up with everyone. :grouphugg:

All the emotions and support posts have really touched me. I'm reading the posts from Jen and V, and remembering all those same feelings and thoughts. I was constantly on an emotional rollercoaster, working quite hard each day to find ways to smile, enjoy life, to remember what's important, cherish all the good things I have, etc. I started doing a lot of yoga, meditation, and basic self-help work. There were of course several occasions where all that self-help work would take a back seat and all I wanted to do was be by myself, with a bottle of wine, some music, and my tears. But! After my hangover, it was indeed all the emotional work that I had been doing that would help get me back on my feet and decide not to give up and to keep myself focused on what I wanted to achieve. So, when I think back, of course I ask myself if I would go through this again to get to the point I'm at now. And the answer of course, is "Yes". I realize that even in my years of sadness, I learned so much more than I could've ever learned if this infertility thing never happened. I know I'm more compassionate, I'm less prone to falling apart at small issues, I have the confidence to say "no" when I need to, and I really and truly know myself a lot better and what I'm capable of. But more importantly, even as crazy as things have been for me with having a little baby in the house and being pregnant, I have not felt stressed about it. When I've been exhaused, and Nicholas has been sick, and I have tons to do, I remember all I did to get to this point and I can do nothing but smile.

I guess to V and Jen, I'm trying to suggest that while you are keeping your intentions clear in your head about what you ultimately want to achieve, you will also find that in this process and with all the emotional pain, you will come out a much stronger person.

As far as adoption, I so much agree with haydee and Kristen. I can't believe how much I love my little Nicholas. At this point, he is still a foster child, but things continue to look good for us as long as his birthmother keeps :airquote: acting up :airquote: (drugs, being MIA, missing scheduled visits, calling the DSS workers derogatory names, etc.) People ask me how far along I am in my pregnancy and how I feel, and this and that and most of the time I haven't thought about it because I'm so consumed with Nicholas. I've even thought, "Could I love my unborn child as much as I love Nicholas?" Kind of crazy, huh?

So a bit of excitement: We know it's a girl!

Well ladies, I have been incredibly busy, but enjoying every moment. I think about you all the time and continue to send my positive thoughts and blessings your way.

Haydee~I'm trying to make it over to the other forum and I will soon. I promise. . .plus I have about a million questions.

Judy~Hope you're well.

V~I'm cheering you on always.

Kim

Kim, I have tears of Happiness for you! I am so excited to hear your having a little girl and things look good on little Nicholas's adoption. The perfect balance of family a boy and a girl. I think back to some of our posts two years ago and am amazed at how far we have all come! Regardless how our babies get to our arms they are the most precious gift!

Kim! Wonderful news! Can't wait to see the name thread. :)

Kim, I was so happy to see that you posted! How exciting that you're having a girl!! I'm so glad to hear that things with Nicholas are still on track. I can't imagine how tired you must be, taking care of a baby and making one all at the same time!! Once again, you amaze me! I know you're busy, but if you get a second, please post pictures! I'd love to see how big Nicholas is getting and I'm sure we'd all enjoy a belly picture, if you're so inclined...

Merry Christmas!

Jen, Judy and V, just wanted you guys to know that I'm thinking of you!

Kim, I'm so thrilled to see an update from you! What wonderful news on all fronts! Please try to continue dropping in and updating- I think of you often, and keep looking out for you on the streets of town. :awink:

Ladies, I can't believe that I missed these posts....

Jennifer, I am so glad that you're doing better! I'm proud of you for going to the party. I think Haydee was able to give some real experienced advice that I know I couldn't have given... :hug99: As far as letting yourself heal and not worrying what people think, ITA. You just worry about yourself.

My BFF just had a m/c two months ago and I often find it very hard to find the right words to say to her...I just try to "be there" and listen when she's hurting...it's so hard for me. I can only imagine how hard it is for her.

Kim, I'm so happy that you updated here! I've been thinking about you and wondering how you were doing. It's going to be a girl!!!!!:pteddy: I want to see belly pictures and pictures of Nicholas !!!! :woot: Thank you for your continued support and advice. You're so right about this journey "changing you" and making you a different person. I feel like that already. I feel like I've matured a lot and I have developed a lot more patience going through all of this... :blush: Well, for the most part. :scan: Seriously, it's amazing how many people that I've met that are in or have been in the same boat as I am and we share our thoughts on how frustrating and emotional TTC is. Not that I'm saying that it's comforting knowing that there are many women like me out there, but at least I know that I'm not alone.

Just a quick update: (For those of you that follow my journal and keep up with me in "Cycle Buddies" you've probably already read this)

Well I was pretty nervous about the IUI today. I had considered staying home and helping dh with the sample and taking it in myself (like we had always done before) but then this morning we decided that there was no since in me hanging around all morning until the appointment at 10:30. And then try to rush all the way across town to an 11:00 meeting. So dh volunteered to take it in (now that he's self employed, he has so much more freedom to do stuff like this) he said that doing this was "the least he could do" after what all I've been through over the last 4 months. :wub1: But...like any other perfectionist, I was so nervous that something would go wrong, since I'm wasn't in control of the situation. I kept telling myself that everything would be just fine, that I don't have to do it all! :scan: Goodness...no wonder I get stressed easily.

I couldn't help myself and I called dh a 11:00 and he said that everything went perfect and that he couldn't have timed it better, he walked in at 10:30, only 35 minutes after the sample was "collected", AND he held it between his legs while he was driving with his left hand over the lid for extra warmth! :wub1: Isn't he too sweet!!!!!

So, everything went well...I suppose. No hiccups, no issues. Just "squirt" and they were done. I laid on the table for about 20 minutes and dh and I just talked about tonight and what were going to eat for dinner...:blahblah: and then we left! My instructions were have intercourse tonight and then to call them in two weeks if I didn't start.

:pray: God, please let this work!!!

:crossfing V!! I hope you get your :bfp:

Thank you! :hug99:

Good Luck V

Good luck V!! Sounds like a very promising IUI!!

Kim so nice to see that great update from you, I think of you often. And you have such a way with words, while this journey isn't one anyone wants to find themselves on, it does change you and I think many many ways it changes you is for the better. :hug99:

Good luck, V!!! :pray:

As I told Sandy (who lives in MS) a couple years ago.....she REALLY wants a baby because she's willing to be very pg in August in the South. :lol: I hope you get to be sweaty and big next August. :hug99:

Thank you! :lol: Yes, Shannon, I'll even take being sweaty and big in August in the South!!!! :pray:

Good Luck, V! :crossfing :vibes:

Kim

Hi Ladies~

Happy New Year!

Who in this forum living in MA has had their insurance cover cycles of IVF?? I have some questions and was hoping someone can explain the process of coverage to me.

Thx
Jennifer

I have Jen, ask away...I think Kim has as well

Gosh, where is everyone? :scratch: I know I've been MIA but. . .

Well Happy New Year!

Jen~Yes Judy is right, I live in MA and have, thankfully, had several cycles covered. . .so ask away. (If I haven't gotten here to late!)

:bighug:

Kim

Kim!!!! :yippee:

How the heck are you doing? Your due date is coming up any minute now, right? Do you know what you're having? Belly pics? Cravings? Etc....etc? Updates, please!! I've waited years for this and now I've got no info. :tapfoot:

No kidding, Shannon! Kim is very stealth, that one. :awink:

I can tell you she's having a girl, and I think she's got a few more weeks to go.

Congrats Kim! That's great!

Great news! Hooray for Kim!!!

Amanda

Thanks for the congrats! But I know, I'm so bad at posting. :hide: I have really, truly, honestly been busy. I am going to try really hard to post in my journal tonight (which I've wanted to do since. .???. . .October? :shhh:. . .I will also post some pixs.

I miss you all! :kiss:

Kim

Kim, congratulations on your daughter!!!! :love3: How wonderful!!!!

Good luck, V!!!! :crossfing I had a chuckle at your dh keeping it between his legs... like, that's where it's supposed to be... :crazy: (I'm so loopy from caffeine right now, don't mind me!!! :blush: )

Kim, congrats on your baby girl!!!!! :bliss: Can't wait for pics!

Kim, that's wonderful news!!

Kim~ Congratulations!!!!!!! AWWWWWW....A baby girl......God Bless. I'll PM you about the insurance coverage.

In the meantime, DH & I are looking into going to the Czech Republic for another rounf of IVF....It's less than half the price in Prauge as it is here. Sounds radical? Maybe, but I'm desperaete. RE says we should try again, but we really don't have another 15 gs to throw out. It would be one thing if we knew it was going to happen and another if the pregnancy actually stuck, well you know. So we are in the middle of doing our research, yada, yada, yada.

AF is officially 11 days late! I actually gave myself of pregnancy test.....Ha-Ha! Very silly I know.

ttys
Jennifer

Kim! Wow....so excited for you! :bliss:

11 days late? Jennifer? :tapfoot: Are you holding out on us? As AF showed yet?

AF is officially 11 days late! I actually gave myself of pregnancy test.....Ha-Ha! Very silly I know.

ttys
Jennifer

I used to POAS if I was a day late, even after DH was Diagnosed with Azoospermia I still tested, you just never know when you get a miracle! 15G's in MA? Check with Canadian clinics, our cycle was 10 including drugs Canadian. With the dollar being pretty level right now it is about the same or could be cheaper depending on the day. VFC accepts alot of pateints from across the border and the wait list isnt that bad compared to foothills and UBC.

So what's up?

Kim

Well...


I just realized I hadn't posted here yet but...I'm pregnant:bliss: I'm actually 14 weeks now, was keeping mum about everything until after I had my cerclage placed (cervical stitch) but that is in now and it went well so minus anxiety, I am doing well.


Kim, I've been lurking in your journal and am so thrilled to hear the joy just spill out of your posts!!

Judy! :woo:

:bliss:

Wow! Give us all the details! How are you feeling? When are you due? How did you find out?

How exciting! I am very happy for you! We must be due around the same time!

Congrats!

Kim congratulations on your baby girl! I need to search for your journal and read some more!!

Judy that is just awesome!! Congratulations!! What is your due date? Got any pics?? I need more info!!! Come on!!!

:bliss:

Holy moly, Judy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: You probably don't know me from Adam, I don't post here often enough, but I do lurk and have followed a lot of your journey....... I'm just over the moon for you, girl!!!! How absolutely fantastic!!!

now, echoing what Kika said... DETAILS please!!!! :nod: :popcorn: how are you feeling? are you feeling flutters yet?

Another lurker wishing you well, Judy!!

Congrats Judy!!! That's awesome news!!

Judy!! That's fantastic news!! :bliss: You give hope to all of us who are right behind you. :hug99: You need to join the pg forums now so we can follow your fantastic news in detail.

Thank you all :) Honestly I'm too nervous about everything to officially join the pg forums. I'm just sort of taking it day by day and the last huge hurdle was the cerclage. Which seems like it went well but today I am feeling some pressure :airquote: 'down there' and I think I need to call to reassure myself as the thought of it kept me up most of the night :sigh: I think everything is fine, I was seen last week blah blah but its all very scary to me anyway.

The good news is I am due 8/8/08 how cool is that? Too bad most babies don't arrive on their due date :lol: We actually did an FET back in November and to be perfectly honest, I was convinced it didn't work and was focused on our next step. Well here we are!!

If only they could keep me asleep until oh July, that would be good! I haven't felt much yet, almost a little flutter but nothing I can say was firmly movement. I am however really looking forward to that reassurance!!

Thank you all again!

Judy that is just awesome!! Congrats again!! :hug99:

JUDY!!! That is awesome!!! You probably don't really know me either. I joined late last summer, so you may have already been gone. But I followed your journey and I am SO proud that you are pregnant!!!!! You DO give hope to all of us as Shannon said. :nod:

I can't wait to see you around more!!!

Congrats again! :yippee:

Congrats again Judy. That's a wonderful story. I am praying your pregnancy goes perfectly.

Judy! :cheer: Congratulations! I am thrilled for you - wishing you the best and a very healthy pregnancy.

I didn't want to "out" you here without your permission Judy but I'm SO happy for you!!!

Amanda

Thank you all!

And thanks for honoring my need to be quiet Amanda :)

Rest assured though that I do *know* you guys, even though I haven't been posting, I'm a good lurker ;)

:wow: This is wonderful news, Congratulations, Judy!!!! :yippee: My birthday is 8/8/72... I turned 8 on 8/8/80 and 16 (8+8) on 8/8/88 I think 8 is a pretty lucky number! :biggrin:

I think 8 is a pretty lucky number! :biggrin:

Did you know that in Hong Kong, 8 is considered the most lucky number? They are very superstitious. They avoid the # 13 like the plague. The more #8s your car tag has, the luckier/better off you are! At least that's what I remembered when I went there when I was 16!

OH MY GOSH JUDY!!!!!!!! :bliss: :rahrah: :ura1: :yippee: I am so damn happy for you! :bighug:

Kim

JUDY!!!!! How wonderful! I couldn't be happier for you!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!

:congrats: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)JUDY!!! WOW!!!! THIS IS THE MOST WONDERFUL NEWS!!!! I"M THRILLED FOR YOU!!! AWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! I'm all teary eyed for you. I don't know how you ever kept so quite, however, I do understand about that a little bit better.......Holy moley!!! I am so, so, so, so, happy for you and your family. I'm sory this is so late in coming, I haven't been around much, ooohhh, but I love to hear this good news from you!!! You are one of the first ladies I met on this forum and you have been so supportive. I wish you a very happy, healthy 9 months.....God Bless You

xoxo
Jennifer:bliss: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Kristen~

Happy Birthday to Fen!

Hi everyone!

Well ladies as of now I await:errr: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) for a big fat check in the mail to allow DH & I to try our third and final attempt at IVF in the Czech Republic. The plans are to go over in May for 21 days and hopefully come back prego. We are looking into going with another couple that are also in the same boat as us. Broke and desperate. They misscarried in their 6 wk after their second attempt as well. I'm scared and nervous:bitenails (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) but anxious and hopeful just the same.
I've been doing tons of research on the clinic and the docs and well it's all the same sh*it over here except a lot less money over there. I know, some of you may be thinking "you get what you pay for", but I have nothing to lose except more money. Hummphh, I don't even have that!!!! It's comical, because I have no idea where I keep digging up all this chump change.:rolleyes: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

I've started a blog to keep my family and friends updated while we are there....So if your interested it's www.bebelabenzski.blogspot.com (http://www.bebelabenzski.blogspot.com). It's pretty boring right now, but I assure you will get more interesting in May. I'll be in touch through here as well to see how everyone is doing.

Thanks for all your continued support on this devestately rocky journey into first time motherhood.....:grouphugg (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Jennifer

OMG Judy!!!! I am so thrilled with your news!!!!! That is so fantastic!!!!! I have tears of joy for you!!!!! I cant believe how far we've come since I first joined this group of ladies! All of us are either there or on our way to having the babies we were meant to hold!

Jen-I hope your travel plans are motoring along, and your so close! Fingers crossed your cheque arrives soon so that you have that piece of mind in hand! If you dont mind me asking what are the appx. cost of a IVF Vacation? We looked at Greece years ago and it was about the same and we went thru VFC as DH has tons of family on the Island. If all goes well for both of us our babies will be born within a month or so of each other as we start IVF 2 in June, we wont know dates until may but we are firm in june/early july so far.

Gotta run,
Take care!
Andrea

How exciting Jennifer!

Good luck. I am looking forward to sharing your journey.

More thank yous to you guys for being so excited!!! This has been an anxiety filled week for me - no specific cause just nerves so your posts and enthusiasm made me happy.



Jennifer that is great news!! I am so excited you are feeling ready to cycle again - well of course you never actually *feel* ready but you know what I mean!! I bookmarked your blog and will be following along and cheering you on.


Andrea, thank you and I'm excited for your IVF #2 :)

Good luck Jennifer! I hope you come back pregnant!! :crossfing :hug99:

Jennifer, :hug99: Good luck girl...I hope everything goes well.

Judy, glad to see you here again. Hope the week gets better for you.

Hi Jen, I got to check out your blog. . .and I'm so happy for you. :clap: And you'll get to travel and visit and new place while you're at it. I had the same feelings you've had with friends and family thinking I was crazy to continue to try anything to get pregnant. I didn't travel, but I was on special diets, did 8 IVFs, and so on. Don't EVEN think twice about them. . .once you get pregnant, they will be so thrilled. And where does this money come from that you didn't think you had? :scratch: Well I found it too. Each time we thought it was over, we figured out a new way to gather up more money. I have a plague right next to my bed that says, "Never, never, give up". I looked at it every morning and it helped to get me through each day. And I'll say it to you. . . .Jen, never, never give up your dreams. I wish you all the best!

Kim

Thanks Kim for your interest. It's kinda boring now, but it'll get more exciting towards May....
ttys
J

Andrea,
The toal cost for IVF in Zlin Czech Republic is 7,000. You can check the website out. www.ivfvacation.com (http://www.ivfvacation.com)

I know it sounds bizarre, but I have a huge financial barrier at this time. So well see how it goes.
Jennifer

Jen I think of you often and pray that good things happen to you and come May you get pg!! :hug99:

Andrea,
The toal cost for IVF in Zlin Czech Republic is 7,000. You can check the website out. www.ivfvacation.com (http://www.ivfvacation.com/)

I know it sounds bizarre, but I have a huge financial barrier at this time. So well see how it goes.
Jennifer

WOAH!!!! Hold up....:eek: Before you jet off to the Czech Republic...just drive down here to Huntsville, Alabama. Seriously!!! If I'm not pregnant by July, we're going to try IVF and it will cost us $7,500.00. He told me that if we wanted to try their "package" deal for 2 IVFs, then it's $12,000 for both and if neither one is successful, we get $3,000 of our money back...

But I totally understand if you you'd rather visit Prague than the Space & Rocket Center! :lol:

Jen thanks for the info, it looks like a really good deal for you and I'm praying your baby wishes come true on this trip! Although it is quiet compareable to what we pay at VFC flights for us are really expensive (I just checked, almost 3000 just for airfare from Yellowknife), so we will be staying at VFC for this cycle as total cost with travel for us is 9200 and I love VFC and the Island is like a holiday in itself! I wish you so much luck with your holiday, and I hope you will be posting good news soon.

HELP!


Hi Ladies.....Well a new delimma opened up. Today DH & I went to have blood work drawn at REs to be sent in for the Czech trip. The nurse insisted that I talk to the office manager about giving us a break on this next cycle. Especially since we already did one with them. She didn't want to see me fly over to Czech without trying for a break here. They offered me a price of 8,000, not including meds. WOW! Why didn't they offer this to us 3 months ago???
The thing is, I have concerns about going over there. I know it's beautiful and it would also be considered a vacation, however, I don't even know these doctors and nurses. That kind of bums me out. I LOVE my RE and his whole entire staff here.
I itemized the trip including sightseeing and food. I figure for EVERYTHING it would be about 10,000. Even with airfare. But for another 1,000 I could stay here! What shoud I do?
Do you think I would regret not staying here with the discount if I didn't get PG over there?
I don't know what to do, does anyone have any advice for me PLEASE?

Vanessa~ Thanks for that info. Does that price include meds? At my age of 38 I do not qualify for a refund. I checked that out already. I believe one has to be 35 and under to get the refund. Thanks.

Hi Judy, How are you??

HELP!


Hi Ladies.....Well a new delimma opened up. Today DH & I went to have blood work drawn at REs to be sent in for the Czech trip. The nurse insisted that I talk to the office manager about giving us a break on this next cycle. Especially since we already did one with them. She didn't want to see me fly over to Czech without trying for a break here. They offered me a price of 8,000, not including meds. WOW! Why didn't they offer this to us 3 months ago???
The thing is, I have concerns about going over there. I know it's beautiful and it would also be considered a vacation, however, I don't even know these doctors and nurses. That kind of bums me out. I LOVE my RE and his whole entire staff here.
I itemized the trip including sightseeing and food. I figure for EVERYTHING it would be about 10,000. Even with airfare. But for another 1,000 I could stay here! What shoud I do?
Do you think I would regret not staying here with the discount if I didn't get PG over there?
I don't know what to do, does anyone have any advice for me PLEASE?

Vanessa~ Thanks for that info. Does that price include meds? At my age of 38 I do not qualify for a refund. I checked that out already. I believe one has to be 35 and under to get the refund. Thanks.

Jennifer,
What a hard choice for you. I love my RE as well and the thought of not going with him makes my gut clench because I love my clinic. I understand the money issue as well because I'm not working and no longer qualify for EI, and it looks like they are pretty close in cost. What is the live birth success rate at the czech clinic compared to yours? Can your RE prescribe some generic drugs or can you go through a cheaper supplier from where you are? Is that the absolute best they can do or can they help you get the drugs at a reduced rate? What is the wait you have to go through your original clinic? Can they get you started when you want to cycle. In the end I would go with what your gut tells you. This is an important decision for you and you have to do what feels right to you.
Hugs and Baby dust wishes,
Andrea

That's a tough call Jennifer. I think I would choose to stay in the U.S. because of the comfort and convenience of being in a familiar setting (and sleeping in my own bed). I think Andrea has some good questions for you to think about....

Amanda

That is a tough call Jennifer...I think if it were me, I would stay but I have to caveat that with stating I don't have much of a sense of adventure either. But I think there is some value in where you have cycled before and your comfort level with the Dr and nurses. Good luck with the decision. I wonder if maybe comparing stats would help? Or asking if your doc uses donated meds? I know I donated a bunch over time to my clinic and they inturn give them to people cycling without insurance. Just some thoughts...


I'm doing well thanks for asking. Just waiting till August :lol:

BTW Andrea, DH and I were watching Ice Road Truckers and I totally thought of you since it was Yellowknife! Which of course you probably know :lol:

Jennifer, that IS a tough call. I haven't done IVF myself, so I probably don't have much advice to offer.

Personally, I would probably stay with the office I am comfortable with...

I think Andrea makes a valid point when she says to go with your gut. When my son was first diagnosed with cancer and we were trying to decide between the traditional protocal and the clinical trial, I had a tough time deciding. Someone told me to choose the path that I would have the fewest regrets with, regardless of the outcome.

I wish you the very best. :hug99:

I am happy you are doing well, Judy. I am just waiting for August too. :lol: Very nervous sometimes...

You should come talk with us in the pregnancy thread. We can obsess together.

Kika~I love the advice about fewest regrets regardless of the outcome! That makes TOTAL sense to me. Thank you :hi5: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

BTW Andrea, DH and I were watching Ice Road Truckers and I totally thought of you since it was Yellowknife! Which of course you probably know :lol:

How funny, I keep missing that show and I know a bunch of people who were interviewed for it!

Im saying my prayers for your August Due date! August is a great month, I was married on the 25th of it!

Personally, I would love to travel and enjoy an entire different country--make a vacation out of the trip as well. BUT....at the end of the day, I would chose to stay home and have the procedure done with the drs and nurses that I'm already comfortable with. Kika has a great point (she always has good advice), go with the one that has the least regrets...

Good luck in your decision. :pray:

Hi everyone~

DH & I have decided to go on the trip. I'll leave on the 1st or 2nd of May and he will join me on the 15th or 16th of May. It was not an easy decision to make, but it needed to be made and a commitment in place. I still cannot afford to do it here a 3rd time in the states. :dunno: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) The offer from the RE was generous, but still not enough. I've done all the necessary homework and all records are sent in. I realize on this road of infertility anything can happen, so I am not even going into this hoping or wishing. It's more like a gamble. Whatever will be will be.
I thank you all for your feedback. It all helped in one way or another.

www.bebelabenzski.blogspot.com (http://www.bebelabenzski.blogspot.com) for minute by minute plays while we are over in Praugue.
:grouphugg (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Okay Jennifer! :aok: I will start my prayers for you immediately!

I will also check out your blog.

There are advantages to IVF while on vacation: you have nothing else to worry about or do...just concentrate on appts and following the dr's orders...and relaxing.

Wishing you the best of luck. :hug99:

MUahhhhhhhhh Kika! THANK YOU!

Good luck Jennifer!! I pray that you come back glowing with a healthy pregnancy!! :hug99:

best of luck, Jenn!! I hope you come home glowing and throwing up (for a good little cause, of course!)!!!

I'm from Russia originally, I wish I knew more about Chech republic to make your time there more enjoyable... you will definitely love the architecture and the history in every stone-compared to US, where a 100 yo house is "old"-you'll be blown away by thousand-year-old buildings and history behind it.....

Good luck Jennifer! :pray: I can't wait until May gets here, I'm sure that you're super excited!

Ladies, I was searching the internet for more information on Ovidrel and I ran across this poem. It's beautiful! I think it says how we all feel...

Faceless Friends (http://desperatelyseekingspawn.blogspot.com/)

I’ve never even met you though I know your life by heart
You’re a friend who I may never meet but we’re friends, although apart.
Your stories, strength and power to keep pushing every day
Fill me with hope, love and courage, you inspire in every way.
Sometimes I even see you, in my dreams at night while I sleep
We’re sitting having coffee discussing emotions that run so deep.
We have something in common which brought us to this place
We suffer with infertility, but the dream we all still chase.
A dream that is a child, to have, to love, to hold
Is our binding factor but our friendship will uphold
I think of you on days when I know you’re feeling low
I pray for you on those same nights, more than you’ll ever know.
When I get some news, be it bad or be it good
I know you’re there to listen, with you I’m never misunderstood.
You understand my suffering although our stories are not the same
It’s a sisterhood, infertility, we will not be ashamed.
This nightmare that is infertility, I wouldn’t wish on my foe
But it’s the foundation of our friendship, I am so blessed that you, I know.
You are now a part of my life, someone I can’t forget
For your kind words and understanding, I’m forever in your debt.
You’ll be forever in my life, although your face I may never see
I wish for you all the kindness that you’ve bestowed on me.

:wub1:

Tear Drops Vanessa~

Thank you for that!

You're welcome! :hug99:

It's actually Veronica.:giggle: That's why most people just call me V! ;)

Thank you Veronica, that was absolutely beautiful. I'm so blessed to be a mother through adoption, and I wouldn't change a thing about my path to motherhood, but the feelings of sadness and futility of my infertility still wash over me every once in a while. If it weren't for this forum and my friends on OUAL I don't know what I would have done in my saddest moments!!

Kristen, :hug99:

OK I am getting really excited now, we put our deposit down on our upcoming cycle and now we are waiting for our blood work orders and protocol, 45 days to the start of BCPS!!!!! I better hurry and get our taxes done so the tax man can help pay for everything!!!

Jennifer hows the trip planning going? Are you getting super excited as May creeps closer and closer? Saying a new Novina for us, and praying for miracles all around!

Baby Dust wishes and hugs!
Andrea

Awesome Andrea!!!! :yippee:

I'm sitting here and wondering when V will come out and share her news with this thread! :tapfoot: Girl, you got and get IUIed and then sit there quietly???? What the matter with you? :lol:
Come one, spill it all...

Okay...:blush: I PROMISE that I was going to....I just haven't gotten around to it yet...Since I haven't updated in a while in here, I wanted to consolidate all of the recent stuff that I've been through and give a full update here. I PROMISE I will! ;)

ETA: It's REALLY long...so don't say that I didn't warn you! :lol:

March 25th
Yesterday's RE appointment was, for the most part, uneventful. My follies were 12mm and 14mm and they need to be around 18mm before we trigger the Ovidrel and have the IUI done. He wants me back in his office tomorrow morning at 8:15 to take another looksy. :sigh: I really hope that it works this time... :pray: It's just so routine now...I'm beginning to feel like a broken record.

We didn't get much BDing in this weekend, because we've been just too tired. (We're right in the middle of painting a 3300 sf house) We did manage to bd Sunday night and we'll be sure to dtd tonight, especially since today is CD14 already. :giggle: Which reminds me, I had this crazy dream the other night about Dr. H. I dreamed that he wanted me to go ahead and pay for the IUI, but according to my bloodwork, I'd already O'd and it was way too late, but he was arguing with me and I told him that I WAS NOT paying for an IUI if I had already Od!!!! And he was just looking at me like I was crazy and he had this grin on his face, I was so mad at him! :lol: Thank God, it was just a dream.

March 27th
Yesterday's RE appointment was fine. The two promising follies that were 12mm and 14mm were at 15mm and 17mm, respectively yesterday. So, I was given the instructions to administer the Ovidrel this morning. OUCH! I hate needles... :cry: Tomorrow I am dropping of dh's "sample" at 9:15 and we're both to return to their office at 10:45 for the procedure.

Ladies, please pray for us. I really want it to work this time...:pray: I'm just so tired of all of this and all of the emotional issues that come with these "high tech" procedures. I'm going to try REALLY hard not to get worked up and psyched up about the IUI. If it isn't successful again, the letdown is just almost too much to bare.

Anyway, in order to de-stress, I'm going to a Pilates class after work and then I'm going to come home and take a long bath and then maybe watch a movie. I rented Atonement, has anyone seen it? If so, is it good?

March 28th
So, IUI this morning went well, I guess. Nothing bad happened at least. We were in and out in about 30 minutes. Despite last nights bding, dh still had an ample amount for the IUI. :phew: I was a little worried this morning when I was filling out the cup label and it reads: Days since last ejaculation:___________ I wrote, "12 hours" :scan: But, according to the nurse, we were good to go! :lol:

Today I'm going to try my best to just chill out. I'm NOT working on taxes or our budget. Not.going.to.do.it...Must.Refrain.

March 31st
I feel fine...just you know, normal. I think that I've found a way to get through this 2ww. Usually I obsess about every.little.thing. This time around, if I have a "symptom" I'm going to ask myself if I've ever felt like this before and if the answer is "yes" then I'm going to let it go. Like yesterday, I was gassy all day and all night. :lol: (I know this is horrible) and at first I was like, "Is this a symptom?" And I said to myself, "No, dumbass, being gassy is normal, it's probably the spinach dip that you ate." Then Saturday I had this huge, sore pimple come up on my face, so this morning I asked myself, "Is this a symptom? Are my hormones changing and I'm breaking out because of that?" Then I said to myself, "No, my face has broken out many times before for no reason, it doesn't mean that I'm pregnant." :loser:

April 2nd
I don't know if it's hormones or what, but I'm NOT having a very good day today. I woke up this morning and my back was/is hurting really bad. I feel very emotional, like I could just cry. But I don't even know why. It's crazy because yesterday I was in such a great mood! :sigh: If I had things my way, I'd go home and go to bed and not wake up until this weekend. :cry:

April 2nd (2nd update)
Oh and I think I may need progesterone supplements/injections. I was reading in my "Taking Charge of You Fertility" book last night and I came across something intersting. If your body doesn't produce enough progesterone after you've ovulated, then there's a chance you will get your period before the embryo has had a chance to implant.

So that got me thinking last night...I know from being on Clomid before and being monitored that my Progesterone levels were very, very low without the Clomid (like 3 and it needs to be at lease 12). Now that I've been seeing the RE, they haven't once checked my 21 day prog. level. How in the world do they know that it's high enough? My cylces are very short like 25-26 days, and this could explain a lot!!! So this morning at 8:45, I leave an urgent message with the nurse at the RE's office. I know that I'm not a dr and that I shouldn't be self-diagnosing and I may be completely wrong, but either way they should've called me back by now. :gah:
April 3rd
The nurse finally did call me back (almost 5:00) and Dr. H wants me to come in tomorrow morning for a test to see where my levels are. (the test should be fairly accurate since it's 7 days after I Od)

Sooo, I guess that I'm not crazy after all! If I'm right and my level is low, I'm going to be very angry at Dr. H for not thinking of this before. But at the same time, at least we we'll have a better idea about what's going on with me. :scan:

April 4th
I'm getting really nervous today... :bitenails I had my b/w done this morning to test my progesterone level, but I've been feeling a little crampy today. I can't tell yet if it's AFy cramps, gas, or what, but I'm starting to get anxious. I wish that they'd hurry up and call me. :sigh:Today is CD24 for me and last cycle was 25 days and I have a tendancy to cramp up to 3 days before AF.

April 4th (2nd update)
Okay. :phew: The nurse called me back and my progesterone was 25!!!! TG! I asked her if it was possible to cramp and still be pregnant and she said, "most definitely" and I asked her if you could tell a difference and she said that it was too hard to tell.

She said that if I was still cramping by Monday, to call her first thing.

April 8th

On Friday when I called Dr. H's office and told them I was cramping, the nurse told me to call her on Monday if I was still cramping. I was a little hesitant about calling yesterday, but I went ahead since I cramped some on Saturday, a little on Sunday and again on Monday starting around lunch. Well, she called me back and they wanted me to come in this morning for an u/s and more bloodwork.

After this morning's app I still don't know anything. However, they did a vaginal u/s and the nurse (my favorite nurse, btw) said that everything looked really good in my ovaries and my lining was really thick! :up: And she commented on how good that was at least 2 times if not 3. :lol:

This was our conversation in the exam room and then later in the lab:

Her: We checked your progesterone on CD21 right?
Me: No, actually it was CD24, since I didn't O until CD16 or CD17
Her: Oh! (looking at her calendar) Well, I'd like to do some bloodwork to be sure of what's going on here.
Me: Okay
Her: Get dressed and meet me in the lab

Her: (In the Lab telling the lab tech) Go ahead run a CBC test, A ??? test and a pregnacy test)
Me: What do all of these tests mean?
Her: One test is to check the amount of electrolytes, one test is to check your white blood count and your red blood count, in order to make sure that you don't have an infection and the infection possibly causing the cramping.
And while it may be too early, I want to run a pregnacy test.
Me: (totally dazed and confused) Okay...sounds good to me.
Her: I'll run all this by Dr. H and then give you a call this afternoon.
Me: Okay (still dazed and confused)
Her: It all looks positive, girl, so far everything is good, I'm hoping and praying that this is it.
Me: Me too, now I just have to wait some more
Her: Yes, this is the hardest part.

Anway, today is going to be extremely nerveracking for me. On one hand, I could be pg. On the other hand, I could have something going on with me that they're just now discovering. And then (if I had third hand) I could NOT be pregnant and they could find nothing wrong, and then here we all go again down the same "unknown" path of infertility.

I don't know how in the world I'm going to be able to focus today...I have an appointment at 11:30 to do our taxes (yuck) and then for the rest of the day, I'll be on pins and needles. I wish that I could just sleep all day and wake up when she calls me! :lol:

April 8th (2nd update)
SHE JUST CALLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG....I CAN HARDLY HOLD IN ALL OF THIS EXCITEMENT!!

I'M PREGNANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bliss:

I want to tell Bryan, but I don't want to do it over the phone...I don't think I can wait any longer...I just want to drive home right now!!!! Oh....I'm shaking all over!!!!!

:bliss::bliss::bliss:

you weren't kidding about it being long :lol: ! i'm kidding of course!! Nice update!! :congrats: again!!!!!!!

Congrats Veronica!!!!!!!!

Veronica!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! :cheer: :yippee:

Hey all, just got the email today that my sub was going to expire, and while I'd love to stick around, I just can't justify it for the amount of time I am here :(

So...I am thinking of all of you!! Take care!

Judy

By Judy! You will be missed!!! Good luck to you!! :hug99:

Bye, bye Judy! Thanks for all of your support and care. Good luck with everything and I hope you come back soon!

Girls...I ran across this yesterday and this girl, Jen is so funny! Check out her Redbook blog:
http://www.redbookmag.com/archives/your/infertility/by_author/5785/25;1 (http://www.redbookmag.com/archives/your/infertility/by_author/5785/25;1)

There's another INfertile that contributes, her name is JJ. I haven't read her blogs yet...

Also check out Jen's webpage here: http://www.jennepper.com/

Let me know what you think about it!

Well this site hasnt been very active for a while. AFM we just finished up our second cycle of IFV/ICSI. BFN, embryo quality issues and just unknown what went wrong as what was transfered was 8 celled x 2 and near perfect. No frosties and not ready to do it again for a while. Feel dryed right out from crying, never thought grief would be as profound as it is. Seems AF is coming early and fast since I stopped the progesterone and I think its probally the worst feeling so far on this journey. At least after all the POAS before finding out there was a problem were just disappointments, this feels like the worst loss because we were so close.

Sorry to be a downer,
Andrea

I'm sorry Andrea.

Amanda

I know Judy isn't here anymore but she had a healthy baby girl, Madison. They are both home and doing well!

Amanda

Andrea I am so sorry. :(

Congratulations Judy! Welcome to the world little Madison. Amanda, Do you think she will let you post some pictures of her miracle?? I sure hope so. If you talk to her wish her well for me. I remember the struggles she went through to get Madison. I am just so excited for her!!! :woot:

:hug99: Andrea, I am so sorry.


What great news about Judy!! Wish her well for me too, Amanda. Thanks!

Andrea, I am so sorry. :hug99:

Thank you for updating us on Judy, Amanda.

I've been thinking about her often. I knew we were due around the same time. I am very happy for her. Can you please tell her that she is in our thoughts, and congratulations? Thanks.

I'm so sorry Andrea...:hug99:

Thank you for updating us. Please visit us more often...maybe we can help you get through this? At least we can listen when you need a place to vent... Lord (and everyone at OUAL) knows I vent here a lot about my infertility struggles.

Again, I'm so sorry....

For those of you who remember, I told my brother and SIL's TTC story here before. She's got PCOS and had two failed IVF's. With the last IVF she lost the baby at 3 months. After the m/c she fell into depression and January this year she started anti-depressants. Turned out that the anti-depressants did a trick on her hormones and end of June she found out that she conceived naturally but that the baby had died at 7weeks. It wasn't too much of a shock as she never suspected that she was pregnant. She had a d&c and two months after the d&c she found out she was pregnant again - naturally! She is now 7 weeks preggies and there is a h/b. :cheer:

Please, please keep this baby in your prayers! I don't know how they'll cope if they lose yet another one. And seriously, they've had their share of pain, they need to be cut some slack. They will be awesome parents! (And of course I'll be an awesome aunt :lol: and Annika gets to have a cousin her age!).

Oh Haydee I am just so excited for your brother and SIL!! I pray that this baby sticks and your SIL has a wonderful happy healthy 9 months!! This is just great news!!! :woot::woo::bliss:

Oh wow, Heidi!!!! That is just wonderful news!!!!!! :yippee: I'm so happy for your SIL. I hope and pray that it sticks and that she has a uneventful happy, healthy nine months!!!!

Wow that is awesome!! I'll keep them in my prayers as well!!


Some friends of ours have been TTC for 8 years!!!... she's had a few m/c's. She found out a few weeks ago that she is pregnant and this Friday marks 12 weeks for her!! I'm so happy for them and wanted to share. Please keep them in your thoughts as well!

Yay Alyson!!!!!! All of this good news gives me hope! :nod: I will keep them in my thoughts too...

Congrats to Judy! Thanks for the update Amanda!

Haydee, Keeping your future neice/nefew in my prayers!

Alyson-Prayers for your friends as well.

Well I didnt think a negative would affect me the way it has and I still want to cry when I think of it, but we are planning our next cycle for the New Year. I am trying out a fertility diet and hoping to lose the extra 30lbs that has been hanging around. Should the next cycle not work out then we will custom adopt as we know alot of people in the comunities and qualify as both DH and I are Metis. The relief of custom adoption is that they are irreversible even by the Supreme Court and we choose the level of involvement the bio parents have, the down side is that FAES and FAS are very common in custom arrangements. Even if the next one is a positive then we may adopt anyway, to complete our family. I have to call our RE today and go through the post cycle stuff and to let them know our intentions for further treatment. I love my RE and he seems very understanding but I dread this call for some reason.

I'll attach the website for the fertility diet for anyone who is interested:
http://www.canadianliving.com/health/nutrition/foods_that_help_fertility.php

Gotta run
Andrea

Judy, congratulations on your wonderful baby girl!!! :pteddy: :balloons:

Andrea, dear, I'm SO sorry for all the heartache you are going through. I have no idea what you feel and I can't even imagine how devastating it must be. I am so thankful you have Aubrey to cheer you up a little and hope you are pregnant in the New Year cycle! :hug99:

Haydee, wow, what a journey your brother and SIL have gone through. I will keep them in my prayers, I hope she delivers a healthy baby full-term!

Alyson, what a great news for your friends!!

Andrea,

I am so sorry. :hug99: I know exactly how frustrating all of this can be. My :heart: goes out to you... I hope the diet works out for you. I wish that I could lose this 34 pounds myself (I gained 16 lbs when I was pregnant and then 2 more when I had the m/s).

Don't give up.

I came across this the other day and I think we can ALL relate to this one:


Aunt Jane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIH5ayG1qho&eurl=http://www.jennepper.com/search?updated-max=2008-02-17T16%3A09%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=10)

:lol:

I've been away for a while. . .is there still a support thread for ladies going through IVF treatments?

Yes it's still here but really unactive. I am ready to support whoever needs it!! :aok:

Me too! I wish that this thread was more active...but there's just not anyone going through IVF on here right now. I just went through IUI and Tamoxifen with Ovidrel and I'm in my 2ww.

I think I'm the only one going through "IUI, IVF or other High Tech Procedures" right now. :sigh:

I think I'm the only one going through "IUI, IVF or other High Tech Procedures" right now. :sigh:

And hopefully soon there will be no one going through it. Here to check up on you. I'm sorry that there's no one for you to chat with, I know most of us aren't the "been there done that" group but we're here to support you.

And hopefully soon there will be no one going through it. Here to check up on you. I'm sorry that there's no one for you to chat with, I know most of us aren't the "been there done that" group but we're here to support you.

Yes, I hope you're right, Marcy! A big part of me is glad that noone else is going through this. I wouldn't wish infertility on my worst enemy. :sigh: But it does get kinda lonely sometimes...

Thank you for all of your support. :hug99:

I'm sorry V! I wish there was something I could do! Hopefully this will be the last IVF cycle you have to deal with and you get your little miracle!! :crossfing

Hey girls, a friend of mine sent this link to me. Its a song about infertility and what women go through while ttc. It's very touching...arm yourself with tissues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfGqOx2iDQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfGqOx2iDQ)

Hey Veronica, I'm back. I know I am hopelessly late for support but how did your 2WW go? I'm on call in CD1 in January for a February cycle. One last kick at the cat before we head to Custom Adoption.

:didimiss:
Andrea

:secret: Andrea.....check out V's ticker in her sig. :awink: That last cycle went pretty well......

I hope to see you in the pg forums starting in February (or sooner!!)!! :)

Thanks Shannon! What a bone head I am! I've only been away for a couple months and already I've forgotten about signatures!

Veronica-CONGRATS CONGRATS CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HH9M2U!!!!!!

boy its quiet here! just dropping in to say we are 7dp3dt and a faint bfp on the stick! We transfered 3 8 cell embies last friday so now we wait for the beta and the US.

Sounds pretty promising! Looking foward to hearing your beta results - when is your beta?

Good luck!

Sticky vibes, Andrea!!!!!

Great news Andrea!!!

Amanda

Awesome news!!!!! Happy and healthy nine months to you too dear!!!! :yippee: Please keep us updated...

Positive vibes that this is it, Andrea!

Okay so I've been spending alot of time on another board and forgot to come here.

We had our first and second betas and they were 318 and 721 respectively so I thought twins. Yesterday when the US tech asked what we saw I saw twins, Mike saw Triplets and so did she. Right now we are officially preggers with triplets, but it is still very early in the process (7 weeks) so we will see how things go, but we are being optimistic as this is in Gods hands now. All three embryos had great heartbeats and were measuring perfectly. I got US pics of the sacs all together then pics of each embryo and yolk sac. Although we had agreed if all three took we would consider reduction of one we decided last night that we couldnt do that and that we will try to carry to term. So wish us luck on doubling our family, I think we are going to need it!

Holy cow, Andrea!! :faint: Forget doubling your family.....you'll be quadrupling your family! Triplets are SO exciting!! :bliss: I'm excited to read more about your journey as the weeks go on.....

WOW, Andrea! Congratulations!! What great news!!!! :wow:

Wow... congratulations!!! Our neighbors have 3 year old triplets and they are a blast. Good lucky with your pregnancy!

Oh my goodness, Andrea!! Congratulations!!

Oh my goodness Andrea! CONGRATS x 3!

Amanda

Congratulations Andrea!!

Wow Andrea! Congrats on the sticking BABIES!

Oh wow, Andrea! What a surprise! Congrats!

Congratulations Andrea!! I am glad you chose against the reduction. Many prayers for a happy and healthy pregnancy.

~ Melissa

Wow... congratulations!!! Our neighbors have 3 year old triplets and they are a blast. Good lucky with your pregnancy!

:giggle: Yeah to you, cause you can go home! :hehe:


Congratulations Andrea, I know it will be a lot of work but it will be worth every minute. I hope those babies stay put for as long as possible so they come out healthy!

:giggle: Yeah to you, cause you can go home! :hehe:


No kidding! :giggle:

Congrats Andrea and I hope all of your babies stay put! :crossfing

Thanks Ladies,
We are super excited but also very nervous. The up side is we will have alot of family support, the down side is they get to go home! I meet with my OB on the 20th, but I have to have another thyroid test and they uped my dosages on everything. A specialist in multiples is also supposed to call but so far nothing. I picked up a couple books on multiples at the library and ordered a couple more but there isnt really anything we didnt already know in them.

OK didnt know where to post this so I came back to the thread that got me into this site. We just got back from our US and all babies are 8/8 on the biophysical profile and looking great. Averai Baby A is weighing in at 3lbs6oz, Annika baby b is weighing in at 3lbs15oz and our little porker Wyatt is wieghing in at 4lbs5oz! So awesome we are so stoked, I cant believe how big they have gotten! We were thinking all around the 3.5lbs mark. Everything looks good and is trucking along, but I am off to nap world now as it had been an exciting morning/afternoon for us. If they have all five of their major functions at birth (right now breathing and sucking are the only two I can remember) they may be take home babies at birth so we might not be spending time in NICU here in Edmonton!

Take care ladies!!!

Glad to hear all the babies are doing well! It's almost time!!

Andrea, so good to hear you are doing great!!! The babies are just troopers!! Please keep us posted, I'd love to know how you are doing! Post in the pregnancy forum :)

That's awesome Andrea!

Amanda