Here's the new thread. I posted this quickly, but I would appreciate suggestions on a better name for this thread. I feel like when you put "positive" and "infertlity" in the same sentence, it's cancels each other out. That's just my own opionion. If anyone has something wittier (and my mind is squash right now) please let me know.

Our purpose here is to gather information in order to help us along on our journeys, be a comfort to one another in bad times, and to rejoice for all the happy and positive moments, holding in our hearts, that the same joy will come to us by birth or adoption.

Kim

Great new thread title Kimberly! Thanks for starting this.
I love the pics you posted in the last thread. You look relaxed and happy!
Judy - Welcome back! I was wondering where you had disappeared.

Here's my deal. I went to a regular ob/gyn who basically gave me a prescription for provera and told me to go back to my RE. He wouldn't even consider metformin for now. Oh well. My DH and I are figuring out health insurance stuff (it's a bit complicated because I'm changing jobs but taking a month off in between, etc.). We're hoping to get it sorted out so I'll have IF coverage during the month I'm off. That way we can go back to my RE and get started. I think we'll probably do injectibles with IUI but we'll see what the RE says. I'd say that we're looking at an early July RE appt and maybe a July or August cycle. :dunno:

Amanda

I like the new name!

I am here to offer any support I can. Good luck to all of you ladies!! I pray that your dreams all come true!

Here and subbing. This is a tough one to name defintely. Maybe TTC with Support and Medical help? that sounds so awkward though. I'll try to think of something positive..in search of the BFP? Probably not descriptive enough.. We'll get it eventually

Signing up to support all you ladies! :hug99:

Thanks you'll for coming by to support us! :grouphugg:

I actually don't like the name I gave to this thread and gave it hastily. Let's keep brainstorming.

Where I'm at right now is that my donor has done all her testing and the results should have been in about a week ago. I called the clinic to see what was going on and was told that another Dr. needed to check everything out before it's a go and that he'd be in on Thursday. :yawn: I let them know simply and nicely that I was eager to go on with this cycle and figure out when everything will take place. I didn't think that was too much to ask. :biggrin:

Kim

I'm too tired to think up a good title! :lol:
Sorry for yet another delay Kim. Hope things are ready to go soon!!!
Should we do another intro since we have lots of new visitors/cheering section? What do y'all think?

Amanda

OY, they work at a snails pace, Kim :hug99: I am so sorry they can realise they are dealing with emotions here!!! Hopefully they pull their finger out and you get an answer soon :hug99:

Good luck Kim! I hope they sort themselves out quickly! You'd think that the "waiting" gets easier as you get use to the ttc game, but boy, it's just the opposite!!!

Good idea about the intro's. I'll start.

I'm Judy, we've been doing IF treatments since 2004, first clomid IUI's, then 3 IUI's with injectable meds (IUI is where they 'wash' the sperm, pick the best ones and put them right inside the uterus in the hopes that it will help sperm and egg meet) None of ours were sucessful however and we moved onto IVF in 2005. Our first cycle was a BFN even though everything looked good and left us scared that this would never happen. None the less, we tried again and were fortunate to become pregnant with 2 boys. Sadly, I went into premature labor suspected to be caused by IC (incompetent cervix) and lost the babies at 23 weeks. :( Seems that in a way their loss has given me a renewed determination to see this suceed though and we did 2 frozen cycles iwith single frozen embryos in 2006, the first was BFN and the second a BFP though at the u/s there was no heartbeat :(. We picked ourselves back up and did a fresh cycle with a single embryo in Feb/March which was also a BFN and now are in the midst of another cycle. Our goal is still to avoid a multiple pregnancy so we are aiming for a 5 day transfer which in theory allows the embryologist to pick the strongest one and will increase our odds of sucess.

*whew* longer than I intended.

So regarding our current cycle, it looks like we will be triggering tomorrow Monday. I have a blood test in the am just to confirm my E2 is in the right range (as of today it was 1014) This is a new protocal for us with a slower stimulation which I hope will yield better results! We also have a bit of pressure I am trying to ignore...this is the last cycle our insurance will cover. But we recognize that we are fortunate to live in a state with coverage at all and we will do what we need to do. I am just very anxious to move ahead in building our family and have a take home baby.

ETA...I still have no great ideas for a title maybe something simple as IF Support? Or "I know my BFP is out there..."

I like the idea of intro's. That way I have an idea of where you ladies are all coming from. Not that my support will be different but then I can go through the emotions with you.

So just a quick update, I'm in the thick of it now, Retreival was Wed, they got 15 eggs no word yet on how many were mature or fertalized. We will get a call today on that - again we are hoping to go to day 5 which would be Monday.

FIngers crossed Judy!!!! I hope you have a great fert report.

Amanda

My intro:

I'm Amanda, age 35. My DH is Tom, age 38. I've known since college that I would have IF issues. My mother had female-factor infertility and took pergonal (injectible fertility drug) before it was approved by the FDA. I don't ovulate on my own. I'm lucky enough to have 2 beautiful children thanks to the miracles of modern medicine. Nathaniel was conceived after 7 cycles of clomid, 1 cycle of injectibles with IUI, laparoscopic surgery to remove a dermoid from my right ovary (with a major post-op bleed), a cancelled cycle of injectibles due to hyperstim, and finally a successful IVF. After he was born we did a FET cycle. Unfortunately our embryos didn't survive the thaw very well. We ended up transferring two 2-celled embryos. Surprisingly I still got a BFP but my numbers never went up and it was a chemical pregnancy. We then tried another clomid cycle (which failed) and finally a femara + injectibles + IUI cycle. I got pregnant with twins but lost twin A around 10 weeks. Now we've been trying for 7 months on our own. We should be returning to the RE over the summer to start "really" trying for #3.

Amanda

Good luck Judy!! :crossfing

Lots of luck Judy!!!! :hug:


Amanda, what a battle. I hope that you get #3 soon and without much work!

Here for support, ladies! =)

Ok so a quick update copied from another site

Ok so results are in and well they aren't fabulous - they aren't horrible either though, we have 5 embryos developing now. But..here's what complicates things, they want to have 6 to go to day 5. So we are doing a 3dt tomorrow. Now nothing at all wrong with a 3dt after all that is how I got pregnant before right? but Chuck asked what about 2? yikes. I just don't think I can put back 2 http://baby.ourlittleuniverse.com/images/smilies/mope.gif my anxiety level is too high about it. Shit I have anxiety when I hear someone is pregnant with twins...I can't risk that. But the flipside is it really decreases our chances...


And an update to that..I think the decision for me is to keep going with one and we need to be positive :roseglass we have 5 embryos dividing away in a lab and we will have them pick the best for transfer tomorrow.

:hug99: Good luck, Judy. Your story is tragic and I think it's amazing you are still so positive! I am sending you positive vibes for this transfer and that you get your wish :hug99:

You know I'm thinking of you and your embryos!

Amanda

Good luck Judy!!

Positive thoughts coming your way!

Oh Judy, I am just catching up on updates...

I am thinking many, many good thoughts for you!!

How did it go, Judy? I hope it all went well :hug99:

It went well thanks for asking!

We transfered one beautiful embryo and the other 4 were still developing away so that was something I took as a good sign. I have been taking it easy the last few days and will try to remain as calm as I can until I test on 6/7

Sticky, sticky thoughts for the little embryo!

Amanda

I don't know if you transferred today but today is the anniversary of my transfer with Sam and Amelia! Wishing you a mid February baby! :crossfing

Sending a tonne of sticky thoughts :hug99: I hope this is IT!

I've been out of the loop. :duh: As always, I've been so busy. I've been checking in though. :thumbsup:

Judy~I'm so happy for you. I'm praying :pray: and wishing :crossfing all the best. :kiss:


I've neglected to post my IF story. . .but I will. . .and it's f'ing long. :rolleyes: Anyway, what going on right now is that I'm waiting for AF and then I'll be able to go on BCP and then we can all figure out the timing of this cycle. I've had several disputes and issues through the weeks due to bills that weren't "supposedly paid" but were and etc. and etc. Anyway, I expect AF to come within a week, so as usual, I'm just waiting around until then.

Again Judy :crossfing :bighug: :kiss: :thumbsup:

Kim

Good luck Judy... I hope that everything goes great!

:vibes:

Fingers crossed Judy.
Sorry about the billing issues Kim. We've dealt with that over and over again.
It looks like I'll have IF coverage again come July. We're trying to get an appt to see my RE...

Amanda

Oh Judy I pray that this is your lucky embryo and come February you have a beautiful child in your arms. :pray:

Hi everyone~~

Good luck Judy, I'm thinking of you and praying for you.:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Well, as you know my name is Jennifer. I'm 37, DH is 34. We've ben TTC for 5 years. It all started with an HSG that showed I had a hydrosalpinx (blocked tube filled with embryo toxic fluid) on the left side. It was removed. DH and I did 2 rounds of clomid with injectibles, then 4 IUIs with no success. Given my age I didn't want to waste anymore time on IUIs so we proceeded to IVF.
It turned out to be a very painful disaster on many levels. RE retrieved 8 beautiful eggs, non of which fertilized. The worst part for me was that we paid and signed off for ICSI but RE chose not to do it because my eggs were over 20 hours of maturity!!! WTF...IMO I think RE should have done it anyhow, we had already spent $13,000, what was another $1700?? RE stated DHs sperm was "beautiful" and there was no given reason to do the ICSI...BS!!!!
In any case we got nothing.
So now, it's a new year, I have a new RE, who I adore. We have done some extensive testing on DHs sperm and on my egg quality. Turns out DH has some "Binding" issues. This test cost $400. Why the first RE didn't offer it in the first place is beyond me. My egg quality is good.
I did another HSG, which showed my right tube was blocked. RE performed a lap, and to my gratefulness did not have to remove it. It was a false positive!!! Whew! Now I still have a chance for a miracle baby on my own.
Friday is my post-op follow up and hopefully we will have a timeline as to when we will start our next cycle. I'm thinking end of August.
This office automatically does the ICSI, so we are very optimistic. Now, I am trying to figure out where the money is going to come from.:rolleyes: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Thanks for listening.

Jennifer

Wow Jennifer! I hope the new RE brings you lots of success.

Amanda

Good luck Jennifer. I have a question. What is ICSI?

Good luck, Jennifer.

Is ICSI where they inject the sperm straight into the egg? or am I way off base?

Is ICSI where they inject the sperm straight into the egg? or am I way off base?

You are correct. ICSI stands for Intra-Cytoplastmic Sperm Injection. A single sperm is injected directly into an egg. ICSI is great technology, especially for people with severe male factor infertility (where there are very, very few sperm) or someone like Jennifer where the sperm aren't fertilizing the eggs. The downside to ICSI is that there is no "natural selection." Even in regular IVF the "best" sperm end up being the ones who fertilize the eggs. In ICSI the sperm are "randomly" chosen (obviously the sperm that look healthy and normal are picked).


Amanda

Thank you for that information. Wow I never realized how much you ladies actually have to go through to have a baby. :hug99: I hope each of you are blessed soon!

Ok I saw Amanda's profile line so I run over here to read the good news and I don't see it!!!! Judy: Is it true???? :yippee:

Ok I saw Amanda's profile line so I run over here to read the good news and I don't see it!!!! Judy: Is it true???? :yippee:


Me too!! Is it true???????? :gimi:

:popcorn: :yippee:

Me too! Come let us know!!!

She hasn't had her blood test results yet but got a +++++ on an HPT this am!!!! (Not to steal Judy's thunder.)

Amanda

Oh my gosh Judy!!!!

:wow:

A BFP is even better news when it's coming from this forum!!!!!

Judy's blood test was good, too!!!

Amanda

:woo: Congratulations, Judy!!! :yippee:

congratulations Judy! Happy tears!

Judy I am soo happy for you!!!! Congratulations!!!! :bighug: :woo: :yippee:

:lol: you guys are quick! Yes its true!!!!! I'm thrilled and I'm hoping for a very sticky baby.


Thank you for posting Amanda!!!

I go for my follow up beta on Saturday so hopefully all numbers are doubling!!

There's the pregnant girl herself!!!! HOORAY!

Amanda

:cheer: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):cheer: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):cheer: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Yea 4 Judy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jennifer:wavey: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Oh my!! Congratulations, Judy!!! How very exciting!!!! :bliss:

:rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:

There isn't enough rahrah girls to ever express the excitement!!!

CONGRATS JUDY! that is wonderful news. I am hoping for a sticky sticky sticky baby and a happy and healthy 9 months!!!

So, just to ask. Becaue of your cervix do they have to stitch it up this time during pregnancy?

:woo: Congratulations Judy!!!!!

So, just to ask. Becaue of your cervix do they have to stitch it up this time during pregnancy?

Yes, :nod: the diagnosis of incompetent cervix (isn't that a pathetic thing to call it?) is evidently technically only given after 2 separate pregnancy losses - crazy huh? But I shopped around before begining IVF again to find a Maternal Fetal Medicine Specialist who would agree to do the preventative cerclage (stitch) around 12 weeks. I will also be on an injection weekly called P17 which is a blend of progesterone and ?? that has been shown to prevent PTL. It may be overkill but I don't want to take any chances!!!

And thank you all so much - I am hoping that this BFP is the start of many in this thread!!

Wow, that is crazy. I can't believe they expect a woman to lose 2 children before they will diagnose! I am glad that you found someone who is willing to take the precautions so it won't happen again.

This is very exciting! :hug99:

Congratulations Judy!!! :cheer: :vibes: for a sticky baby!

Judy I am just over the moon excited for you!!! I am just sitting here at my desk :bawl: in happiness for you. :pray: for a sticky baby and a happy healthy nine months!!! :hug99: Congratulations again!!!

YAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOO! :bliss: :clap: :rahrah: :jump: :cheer: :banana: :yippee: :bighug: :bfp: :knitting:

I don't know what else to say? I'm just happy as hell for you. :bliss:


:justahug:

Kim

Wow! Congratulations, Judy!! :cheer: :ura1: Sticky vibes!

Congrats, Judy! :woo:

Hi everyone~~

DH & I have a cycle date start of Aug 2nd!!! I am very excited and happy. Just a little overwhelmed about the money. We are going over every reasonable avenue (& some not so reasonable) on ways to pay for the treatment.......ugggghhhhhh. Once we figure it out, the weight will be lifted and I'll be able to concentrate solely on the cycle and my baby:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#).

Judy~~I hope this BFP continues...........lead the way!!

That's exciting Jennifer!
Judy - Fingers crossed for your beta tomorrow!!!

Amanda

Congrats, Judy! :cheer:

Good luck, Jennifer!

Congrats Judy! I'm so happy for you! Sticky Sticky Embie prayers! HH9M2U!:bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: Just lurking when I saw this thread and have tears of joy for you Girl!

Jen-The cost is out to lunch! At VFC in Victoria where I went Dr. H is doing a pilot IVF program for more econimical drugs and procedures for women who meet the criteria (30-35 non smoker) so I'm hoping next year we can go that route when we do it again and save at least 4500. Good Luck with your upcoming cycle!

Congrats on having a date set, Jennifer! I hope this is it for you and that you can sort out the money side of things. :hug99:

Judy~~I hope this BFP continues...........lead the way!!

Ditto!

Jen~ I totally empathize with you about being overwhelmed with the money aspects. DH and I had to do the same. . .sit down and figure out what to cut in our expenses, where to pull money from, etc. We actually took out a loan!
Isn't so nice actually having a date set? It's like "you're back in business" :banana:

Speaking of which. . .I started BCP and so it looks like a retrieval/transfer somewhere around July 17- July 21. :pray:

Kim

Kim - I'm so excited for you!

Judy's beta went up but it didn't double so things aren't perfect yet. We all need to keep sending sticky, sticky thoughts. She's having a repeat blood test on Tuesday.

Amanda

:crossfing Doubling vibes for Judy! :vibes:

Best of luck to you, Jennifer and Kim! :crossfing

:rahrah: Kim! That is so exciting!!!!

A tonne of positive thoughts your way Judy :hug99: I hope that your numbers do what they are supposed to do!

Thinking tons of good thoughts for both of you :crossfing

Judy!:pray: :crossfing :vibes: I'm sending it all out there for you.

:heart: Kim

Thanks you guys and thanks for posting the update Amanda! I was a little too stunned yesterday to remember to do it. All doubling beta vibes are welcome I am really hoping this is just a small glitch and I will get better news on Tuesday :crossfing

Jennifer - great news on having a date set!!! :woo: I hope that you guys can work out the finances soon so you can just look forward to the cycle

Kim :woo:BCP!!!!! Excellent!!!

I really hope all your numbers go up on Tuesday Judy :hug99:

Judy...sticky sticky vibes and here's hoping that it was just a glitch, like you said... :pray: that your numbers will be up by Tuesday.... :hug99:

:hug99: Judy, my thoughts are with you.

Fingers crossed and praying Judy! Really praying hard :pray:.

Judy- I'm sending sticky, sticky number doubling vibes your way!

Jen-Congrats on being "back in business". I know the money thing is frustrating and overwhelming, but when you are holding your baby in your arms it will all be SO worth it. (We are in debt up to our ears from our IVF and adoption expenses, but when I look at my little guy, I know that we'll all be A-OK)

Kim-So excited for you. Your strength and perserverance is amazing. You are going to be such a wonderful mom!

Kristen

Thinking of you and praying for you Judy!!!

:pray: for doubling numbers on Tuesday!!!!

Good luck today, Judy :hug99:

Thinking of you today Judy!

Amanda

:crossfing for you Judy!

Thinking of you Judy and :pray: that your numbers double!

Thinking of you today, Judy! :crossfing :vibes: Sending as many doubling beta vibes as I can!

Thank you all for all the vibes they are much appreciated. I did get the news..It is sort of inconclusive but its not negative...

Beta was 235 so in 3 days it did double at just about the rate it increased before. However, they ideally want it to double in 2 days but she basically said its too early to tell anything.

And most of what I find on line says 2-3 days is the correct range. I will go back Friday. I wish I could just get a straight answer if it was 2 days or 2-3 days that was expected...I think I have too much information :sigh:

So here's what I have

6/7/07 HCG 72.3
6/9/07 HCG 117 - doubling time 69.12 rate of 1.27 per day
6/12/07 HCG 235 - doubling time 71.56 rate of 1.26 per day

I'm glad the news is not negative, Judy!!! I know Friday can't get here fast enough...but it sounds like the little one is doing just fine :) Sounds like he/she wants to be different from everybody else from the start, eh? I hope things continue to go well..........
:hug99:

Gosh Judy~~~. .to the heavens and the Universe. . .:bullhorn: "Can't this just be simple? Double embies, double! " :pray:
:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing

:heart: Kim

Well that is not bad news, so I am going to cheer :rahrah:

I just wish they would give you a straight answer, I am sorry this is stressful, but hopefully by Friday the embie will do what it's meant to and will get them off your back :hug99: Good luck!

Sorry things aren't more conclusive. I'm still thinking sticky vibes!

Amanda

Sorry you aren't getting a straight answer but it's still good news!! :pray: that the numbers jump way up on Friday!!! :hug99: Hang in there girl!!

Judy~~
Sticky~~Sticky~~~Sticky~~ Double, Double, Triple..........:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
Jennifer

Good luck today, Judy! I am thinking doubling vibes for you :hug99:

So Friday finally arrived Judy!! Best of luck! Hope the results are more than excellent!!

Just stopping by to wish you double luck!!:pray: I hope you get a conclusive answer today and it's good!!

GOOD LUCK Judy!

Amanda

Thinking of you, Judy............. :pray:

Good luck, Judy :crossfing

Good luck Judy.

Well here's the deal...positive thinking does nothing.

Levels dropped to 121 and they said this is not a viable pregnancy

I'm actually just numb.

Thank you all for the positive thoughts

I'm so sorry, Judy :hug99:

Oh no, I am so sorry, Judy. :( :sadhug:

Crap.

Amanda

That just sucks!! I am so sorry. :hug99:

Judy I am truly sorry. :(

Oh Judy. I'm so so very sorry :bawl:

I am so sorry. :hug99:

:hug99: I am so very sorry :hug99:

Thank you all very much. You know I wanted to just say how much I appreciate the support I've been the recipient of on these boards. You have all been cheerleaders and support people. I just really appreciate it.

I'm so, so sorry Judy. :( I know there just aren't any words. :hug99:

:hug99: it's so unfair!!!

Lots of :hug99: Judy!!!

:tear: :sadhug:


Kim

No no no! :banghead: I am so sorry!

Just checking in to see how you're doing Judy???

Hi all and thank you for the continued support. Emotionally I'm a basketcase still but it is getting better. Had my follow up with the Dr and he thought we should keep going, maybe add PGD to the mix. Its a process where they remove 1 cell of the embryo and test the DNA to see if chromosomally it is normal. Not sure where I sit with that right now as we are out of insurance $ and that is obviously and additional cost and requires that the enbryos make it to 5 days which we didn't have great luck with in the cycle before this one. But I have time to think about it and about some other options like maybe looking at doner egg etc. So a lot swimming around in my head these days.

Kim Jennifer and Amanda how are you guys doing?

Judy~I can only imagine how many thoughts have been going through your head these past days. :hug99: It's such an enormous burden to bear. .the combination of doing everything you can emotionally to talk yourself out of the darkness and then have to think logically about how to go on from there. :hairpull: Please know that I've been thinking about you and wishing you well in getting through this. :bighug:

There was a woman in this thread named Pam who did PGD and had a successful pregnancy. I remember her saying that she was so glad she did it because they transferred an embryo that they may have not transferred had she not done the PGD. I always wished I did it, but I too, ran out of coverage when I really thought about it. Of course, if you need to discuss anything about donor egg, I'm your girl! :kiss:

Speaking of which, I'm happy to say that I've started the Lupron. I guess now that I'm doing shots, I feel like I'm finally in the midst of this long awaited cycle. Estimated retrieval (for donor) and transfer (for me) is still slated for somewhere around the 3rd week of July. :pray: In the meantime, I've started to do my meditations and added acupuncture back into my regime in hopes that the Universe will hear and answer my prayers.

Kim

Wow Judy. I've given my thoughts to you elsewhere but I'm thinking of you. Sarah also did PGD and most of her embryos had trisomoy. I know they transferred the non-affected embryos and she has a healthy baby.
Kim - That's great that things are moving forward. You must feel both good about the progress and anxious. I'm thinking of you alot and hoping that this is a successful cycle for you!
No news from me! I have an appt with the RE on 7/3 and then we'll see....

Amanda

Good luck Judy with all the decisions! Amanda is right. Life is just SO unfair!!

Kim: glad things are moving along!! All the best to you...

Judy :hug99: I am so sorry that you are lumped with this burden of decisions.

Kim: I am so excited that this cycle is in full swing and you are heading towards the 3rd week of July. I am thinking nothing but positive thoughts for you :hug99:

O Judy~~~WTF~~~~No words......Just hugs for you :sadhug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):sadhug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):sadhug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):consoling (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) EFF...EFFFF....EFFFF!!!

We are still working on the money. I need to get it by the end of July so I'm starting to sweat a lotta bit. We'll see, we have options.
I'm thinking of just dropping all this :bs: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) That is a very real thought to me right now, although I haven't told DH yet. I've just been discussing it with myself. Ho-hum...I just don't know.

Jennifer

Jennifer :hug99:having to finance these steps makes this process so much more painful. I'm sorry that you're going through this now and hope that it does come together for you and before July. Fingers are crossed for you! Keep us posted. I have wondered if I need to hang it up recently too and its a very discouraging place to be.


Kim - very excited for your lupron start! Thank you for everything and the chat the other night. It really did help me.

Amanda 7/3 is coming fast!!

Just checking in with everyone. My head is still spinning with next steps and if I am fooling myself. I think it will just take time to sort this all out. I tend to think that PGD may not be the route we do simply the $$ and the experience we had with 5 day embies last time, we wound up with 1 good one to transfer..and it end up not sticking. I must admit, I wonder if day 3 just works better for some people, me included? Though on the flip side the 2 pregnancies after the boys with day 3 did wind up to not be viable so..yeah no idea what that really tells us. Wouldn't it be nice if medicine really was more exact? :sigh: I mean truely it does some absolutely amazing things but there are so many questions too.

Jen~:scratch: gosh, I really hated (still hate) even having to realistically think those thoughts. This all just stinks! :furious: If you do drop all this, what are you thoughts around it? Not having kids? Adopting? Just wondering.

Amanda~Very true, July 3rd is just around the corner :crossfing

Judy~I enjoyed our conversation as well. . .call anytime. You're so right about medicine, while I know that we are lucky to be able to do things a woman couldn't do 30 yrs ago, I always wish there were more. I remember wishing and imagining the clinic would just insert a special camera inside of me so we could just find out what the hell is going on in there. :giggle: Judy, check your PM.

In addition to starting the Lupron, DH and I completed our required 8 weeks of classes in order to become "certified" to become a pre-adoptive family (with the hopes of adopting) through the Mass. Social Services. We still have to fill out some more paperwork and have a home study done, but it still feels so close. Additionally, I feel more secure knowing that if things don't work it this next DE cycle (and I'm damn sure giving it all I've got!), that we can still have a family in the end.

Kim

Jen: I am sorry those are the thoughts going through your mind, it just totally stinks!! :hug99:

Judy: I am glad you are getting the support you need to get through this and I hope you can come to a decision soon as to what to do with the next attempt.

Kim: I am so thrilled to hear that things are on track that one way or another you are going to have your family! My fingers are crossed so tightly for you!

Good luck Kim!!! I hope this cycle works out great for you.

Jen: I am so sorry that you are banging your head agains the proverbial wall. I don't have any wise words to help you through your decision but I do have plenty of :justahug: and :pray: coming your way.

Hi everyone~~

Thanks for your support concerning the finances.......We are considering a home equity loan or just a flat out loan from Capital One....they do fertility loans. We shall see. Sometimes I wish I has a financial advisor to quide me in the right direction. I don't want to be in financial ruins. But maybe that's just what it'll take to get the dream!?

Kim~~Adoption for me right now......well, I'm not quite there yet. I'm trying to get the gold, a biological baby with my husband whom I love dearly. Of course, adoption is the first thing people want to say to me when I tell them we have fertility issues.:whistle: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
However, I am very inspired by you starting your process and having plan B if plan A doesn't work out. That's great!! Very admirable. Of course I am rooting for you. Your experience may just open doors for me.

Judy~~Did you do PGD this last time?? I spoke with someone today who didn't know my position w/ fertility only to learn she had gone through IVF and now has 1 yr old twins. Of course I prodded and learned that she had done the PGD due to her 3 previous miscarriages. They retrieved 5 eggs, did PGD, 3 had chromosomal abnormalties, implanted the 2 that were good. She said PGD worked for her.
Maybe it's a good idea???
Thanks again everyone for your continued support which is much needed and appreciated.

Jennifer

Judy~~

I just went back through the thread and I read that your RE suggeted the PGD. Honestly, I was truely inspired by the woman today who informed me that she did the PGD and it worked. Yes, it's more money and no insurance doesn't cover it. I can't remember if your insurance does or not, the point is.....it's another road that seems to be before you and before you try donors and go that route maybe it seems worth a shot.
Jennifer

Does this support group not exist? Probably, only if your insurance covers it.

Jennifer sorry I was just in my emails and saw links to your posts. Interesting and positive about the woman that did PGD. I have heard that what the embies look like don't 'look' perfect often are...I'm a bit nervous about it simply because we only had 1 of 6 embies make it to day 5 well 2 honestly but 1 didn't have the inner cell mass...anyway, I don't know what that means scientifically but I wonder if embryos that might have been fine simply didn't make it in the lab? Who knows really..

I have the info from Cap One too on the financing. Been looking it over, its of course frustrating to worry about financing something that should be as easy as a bottle of wine and some 'fun' :sigh: But if all works out of course very worth it in the end. I hope that some decisions on the financing have come together for you. Please update!

Kim, the book arrived today! Thank you! I haven't yet begun to read it but I really appreciate it!!

It's funny because we had thought about going to blast on our IVF but something didn't look right and we transferred on day 3. My son is now 3. Those same embryos didn't survive thawing. Who knows how they would have done in the lab??? There's a huge part of embryo survival, both in and out of the uterus, that science doesn't yet understand!

Amanda

Sorry I haven't been more actively supportive here. We're in the middle of a disaster move from hell and my internet time is limited!
Once I'm more settled I'll be here more. Especially since we'll be getting ready to start a cycle soon....

Amanda

I've been absent as well for a few days. :hide: I've been trying to get caught up with work so that I can have a few days off! We're headed to Vermont this morning to go camping with friends. I got AF yesterday and so I will start the estrogen this morning. I'm still on the lupron, so my shots have been packed to come along with us camping. :sigh: I don't want my shots to get in the way of anything and I don't want to be discussing it (although my friend knows that we're getting ready for a DE cycle). So, I've got to figure out how to hide this while we're camping. I'll be back on Monday.

Judy~Happy reading.


Kim

There's no question Amanda that there is so much that isn't known. DH often jokes that if he had it to do over again he'd be an RE (course he'd have had to do a whole heck of a lot better in Math and Science :lol:) but just that there is so much that isn't known you can honestly say "hmmm lets try something else" and when you suceed, everyone is over the moon! That is not at all to sound glib about Dr's. I know its a lot of work and an extremely dedicated profession. There are so many things that just blow my mind.

Kim, how'd the trip go? I'm guessing that you are coming up on an u/s soon? Any reports on the donor's progress?

Jennifer, I hope you are still around, sorry again that I didn't respond earlier. If you can pop in and give us an update.

Hi Judy~~~~Thx

Yes, I am still here....I've been in Boston the last few days, now am home. We just received paperwork from the "Loan Specialist" not to be confused with the "Tax Man" LOL..Trying to put together all necessary paper work, signing here, faxing there........ you know......trying to put it all together. As soon as that happens I can "sigh" a sign of RELIEF.. of course, until the shots come and so on and so on....
I hope everyone is having a lovely summer.........

Happy Fourth of July................

Jennifer

Good luck, Kim. It's so exciting that transfer is drawing near!

Jennifer: I hope all the loan paperwork goes smoothly.

Amanda: How did your appointment at the RE go?

Judy - It's funny because I had an entertaining conversation with my RE about some research ideas. I was amazed that I knew some stuff that he didn't! I love what I do but I think I would have really liked being an RE, too.
Kim - I hope you enjoyed your camping trip. Shots and all!
Jennifer - Sorry about the financing crap. That sucks! I hope you get through it all and can move on.

My appt yesterday went well. My RE and I have known each other since 2002 so it was like a big reunion. I was getting hugs from all the office staff and nurses. It was so funny. Anyway my RE is totally on board with me trying injectibles with IUI for 2 cycles before moving on to IVF. I started provera last night to get AF and then we're starting!

Amanda

Jennifer How was Boston? I'm from MA, if I'd known you were in the area we could have had a chat :)

Amanda very exciting that the apt went so well and he is on board with your plan!!

Judy~ Boston was awesome...I found the perfect dress for my 20th High School reunion @ Filenes for $33.00. It was $280.00 @ Macy's in Miami....go figure!! Next time I'm in town I will let you know.

We got approved for the loan......YIPPEE!!!!! 15 yrs, but as they say "it'll be worth it" Now we are just trying to get the annual pap done and sign the consent forms, then August 2nd should start meds. The world has been lifted off my shoulders.

Kim~How did the camping and the shots go???

Amanda~~ Fingers crosssed for you

Glad the loan was approved Jennifer! Great find on the dress, too.

Amanda

:woo: Jen! Congrats on the loan!

Total score Jennifer! Very glad all is ok with the loan :nod: Yes definitely let me know when you are going to be in town next!

Judy, how are you?

Kim, are you still looking at a transfer date of the 17th?

Just wanted you ladies to know I am thinking of you...

Hey ladies! Just checking in to see how all of you are doing???

Keep us updated okay!!

Jen that is awesome both on the loan and the dress score!! :woo:

I'm here I was coming by to get an update on Kim...:whistle: no pressure :lol:


Things for me are better thanks for asking! We think our plan will be to do a frozen cycle or some frozen cycles to see if that does the trick. We have about 7 embryos cryopreserved. Not all make it through the defrost process though so there is no telling but we are looking for that magical one :)

When do you think you will do that Judy?

When would you do your FET Judy???

I'm CD 1 today!!!! Baseline tomorrow or Saturday and then I start menopur!

Amanda

Great news Amanda!!!

I can actually start the FET stuff with my next AF as long as we get our releases signed, notarized and returned to the clinic before it shows. I just don't know when to expect it!

Wow Judy!
Baseline was today. I also got my meds. Antral follicle count was 16. Waiting for the call-back with the blood work results. I always get a bit nervous waiting for the phone to ring. I figure it'll be something bad! Hopefully I can start the injections tomorrow night. He's being conservative with me and having me come back after 3 nights of injections instead of the usual 5 nights. I think that's because I have such unpredictible responses to the meds.

Amanda

thats a great antral count though Amanda!

FYI for anyone not doing IF treatments the count reflects the # of follicles that are getting ready by the ovaries to be developed.

Amanda feel free to correct me if that was wrong :)

I'm new the antral count because I don't remember them doing it when I was last trying. From my little bit of research you're exactly right Judy!
My FSH was 8 (normal) and estrogen was 25 (normal). I'm good to go. Injections start tomorrow night.

Amanda

Hmm...I have not heard of the antral count...I will go read about it. DF bought two books on IF and getting pg, both of which have been very helpful.

Amanda, my estrogen was something like 40. 25 is very good!! I read that estrogen levels on the lower end (like 25) tend to be better for stimulating, so it really does sound like you are all set.

I have a question. My cycles have been very light the last 8 months, lasting only a day or two. It's so light that I can't imagine my lining being adequate. Or maybe it's not all shedding? Has anyone else heard of such a thing? Is it really possible for your lining to be inadequate for implantation? Is there a test or diagnosis for your endometrium?

Kika, my cycles tend to be pretty light 2-3 days. They never thought that was an issue but its just the way they have always been. I would think though that if you wanted to check, you could request an u/s for lining thickness mid cycle, just around ovulation. For IVF/IUI they do measure this routinely.

Here to check up on Kim too :pace:


Amanda: how is it going??

Judy: Good luck trying the FET! Very exciting!

Kika, did you ever in your wildest dreams thought that you'd complain about having light cycles??? The irony of ttc!!!

Sorry I can't answer your question, but I would definitely bring it up whenever I see any kind of doctor...

I just wanted to post some hope to this forum..

My SIL just had her 2nd IVF cycle and today they found out that it's positive. They transferred 3 embies and doc said with her count, there may even be a chance that it's twins!

CONGRATS to your SIL Haydee!
Tonight is day 3 of injections. I have my first follie check and bloodwork tomorrow. I seem to either hyperstim or understim so I'm hoping for something in the middle! It's a bit early for my first u/s but they don't want to take any chances with me.

Amanda

Thanks Judy! I was wondering if there was a way to have your lining checked to see if you are building one that is adequate.

My cycles are 1-2 days, but 8 months ago they were 4-5 days. They seem to be getting shorter and shorter. Weird.

I can't believe my account had expired!! I didn't get any reminders. I went to post one day and was not allowed. Anyway, I'm back on. :didImiss: Hi. . .sorry to keep some of you in suspense.

I had a nice time camping although it was really cold. It was about 50 degrees Farenhiet! It was nice to be in the country though and since we were at a different camp site than my friends, we were able to find a reason to run back to do the shot. I returned from camping on a Monday and then basically started my next vacation (an In-Law visit) that same Thursday, so I rushed to unpack from the camping trip, re-pack for the In-Law visit, get the house cleaned for the dog sitter, and get work at my job done. So now I'm back and things are moving right along as far as my cycle is concerned.

I think the clinic called me almost everyday while I was on vacation. The donor flew into Boston on Thursday 7/12 and had her first U/S on Friday morning. She's doing wonderfully! :pray: Basically, her retrieval is tomorrow and I was told yesterday that she was showing 20 follicles. So tonight is my last night of Lupron and I start the Progestrone tomorrow. I'm trying the PIO again. Some of you might remember that during my last cycle, I couldn't hack the PIO and went to a suppository. I'm going to be brave this time. :crossfing. Kent goes to the clinic tomorrow of course to leave his "sample". Also, last minute, the morning we left for vacation, Kent was told to come in for an SA because his last one wasn't so great. He was just getting over a stomach flu when he went in this time and basically, it still was below what they wanted to see. So, we're doing ICSI this cycle, which is the first time we've done this. Also, the plan is to try blastocyst this cycle, but I guess I have to wait to find out embryo quality. So that's it! I will either have my transfer on Sat. 7/21 or Mon. 7/23. I can't believe it's finally here. I have been anxious of course, but I've been trying my best to stay calm and not stress out.

Jen~We did this donor cycle with both a home equity loan and credit cards. . .and we're hoping that this will have been all worth it. What the heck, you know? We're always going to owe money for some damn reason or another. I'm so glad you were approved. :yippee: The next time you're in Boston, look me up too! :)

Amanda~This is so exciting! It seems like it all moved right along so quickly for you this past week. Uh-hem, they know me well at my clinic too :rolleyes: . . .except I get a little self conscious that EVERYONE knows my name. :hide: I'm wishing you all the best. :bighug:

Judy~I had forgotten that you had some frozen embies. When do you think you'll be doing the transfer?

Kika~My periods are very light and short as well. They have always been. From the time that I started this whole IF thing, it seemed like none of my REs were too concerned. . .even though I kept thinking it would be a problem. When I started doing acupuncture however, I did get asked about my periods every visit and she worked with me to increase my blood flow. The acupuncture and dietary changes really did help. If you're doing a medicated cycle however, your lining should and would usually be checked. . . and you'd be given progestrone, which would help to support your lining whether or not your periods are light.

I promise I'll jump on again tomorrow after I get the donor's follie count.

Kim

Good luck Kim!!

They retrieved 42 eggs from my donor. :woo:

Kim

42 eggs? :yippee: Wow!

:bawl: Happy tears for you! Good luck!

Wow! that's double what you'd expected. :woo: Fingers crossed for your transfer. How many are you transferring?

42?!? :faint: So how many will they transfer, and will you freeze the others to try again (not that you'll have to- this time IT.WILL.WORK.)

That is awesome Kim!!! I hope you finally get your little one!!

Thanks so much! I'm just so psyched that she did so well. . .for me. :awink:

Tomorrow is when I'll find out how many fertilized. I think that how many they will transfer will depend on the quality of the embroyos that make it. So now I have to keep my fingers crossed for good fertilization results. :crossfing My guess is that they will transfer no more than 2 if they are of very high quality and 3 if they're mediocre. And yes, we will freeze whatever is available to freeze.

Kim

Wow Kim!!! 42 eggs is awesome. I hope the fert report is great and you have lots and lots of frosties!!!!

I posted this elsewhere but I'll add it here, too. My cycle isn't going great. I'm doing the same old, same old. I make lots of small follicles instead of a few big ones. Not a good thing. It puts me at risk for hyperstim and cycle cancellation. I guess I should back up a bit.... I started menopur on day 3. I took 2 vials per night for 3 nights (usually they do 5 nights but they wanted me back early). On CD 6 I had my first check. Lots of little follicles. The silver lining is that my E2 was only 79, which isn't too high. First the nurse called and said to do 2 more nights of 2 vials. An hour later my RE called himself. After talking to me, we decided to do only 1 vial per night for 2 nights. I'll go back on Thursday (CD 8) for a follicle check and bloodwork. Hopefully I'll start making a few dominant follicles and we'll lose the rest. That would be a good thing. Otherwise I'm not sure that this cycle will be a go....

Amanda

Oh Amanda :blue: I'm sorry to hear about how things are going with your cycle. How did it go today? There always has to be a bump in the road somewhere huh? :sigh: I hope the change in protocol has helped.

I got the fert report back and we have 29 embryos! :clap: There's still a question as to whether or not I'll be doing a 5 or 3-day transfer. They will call me tomorrow. I'm in good spirits, but I haven't necessarily relaxed yet. . . .unfortunately, I'm always keeping my eyes open for that :airquote: bump in the the road.

Thanks for sending me all those good wishes. They're sure to help right?

Kim

Great news for you Kim!
More so-so news for me. I had 3 "measurable" follicles (all about 8mm) but my estrogen dropped to 43. If it's not one thing..... They're increase my meds back up to 2 vials and I go back on Saturday. I'd honestly forgotten how difficult this is!

Amanda

Kim: Wow! 29 embryos is good!! Good luck!!

Amnada: I hope this is just a bump in the road and things start looking more positive. :hug99:

KIM!!!!!! :faint: :bighug: The next bump you have will be where your waistline used to be! :nod: BEST OF LUCK THIS WEEKEND!!!! EVERYTHING CROSSED!!!!! :crossfing

Sorry, Amanda. I wish things were going better... :hug99:

29 embryos Kim!! :bliss: Just don't get them all implanted at once.....you'll really be in the record books then. :giggle:

When do you go for it? :)

Kim: nothing but good wishes for you.

Amanda: you know we are always thinking of you. Keep us updated over the weekend, K?

:rahrah: Kim! that is AMAZING!!! I hope you get some really good mature embryos to put back in there and get you your daugther or son!! or both :awink: I am so excited, good luck! :hug99:

Amanda, good luck with everything.
When do you start your new job?

Kim, fingers crossed for your transfer.

Amanda~~:hug99: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) I have my fingers crossed for you.....

Kim~~:yippee: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)WOW...Holy SHI_!!!!!!!That is amazing! O , how you must be so excited! I amost fainted in the office when reminded of the PIO shots.....not looking forward to those, but of course, whatever it takes.

DH & I start Lupron on the 27th.......here goes EVERYTHING...........:grouphugg (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Wow!! It seems like everyone is out of limbo and fully fledged into the game!

Kim: you have a SUPER fertile donor! Her ovaries must feel like sh1t!:giggle:Are you freezing some?

Jen: Good luck - great to have something to look forward to!

Amanda: when is the final date that you will know whether this cycle is a go? Does upping and downing the meds dosage help to get the right number? All fingers crossed.

It's about time we get some bfp news from this forum! You're all a deserver bunch!

The next bump you have will be where your waistline used to be! :nod:

That's funny. :lol:

Thank you so much for all your well wishes!

I got some good news again today. My transfer will be on Monday 7/23. The clinic was waiting to check the fertilization before they decided whether it would be a 3 or 5 day transfer. As it turns out, the fertilization is going very well, so blastocyst it is!

Jen~Good luck! :crossfing :bighug: I'm actually not doing so great with the PIO. :blue: I'm going to keep going until I truly can't take it anymore. Since I'm freezing the area, I'm fine with the shots going in. The problem is the next day when I feel very bruised. There is no discoloration in the area, it just feels like I was voilently hit. . .which in turn causes discomfort when walking and sitting. I keep trying to make pretend I'm not in pain but. . .it's not always so easy.

Amanda~I'm glad things are still moving along. :clap:

Kim

Kim!!! :bliss: This is so exciting!! Wow sure sounds like the wait was for the right donor so far!!! I am praying SO hard for you!!


Amanda, I am sorry that the cycle is already a rollercoaster :hug: Hoping you get good news tomorrow. I'm hoping the E2 drop was just from the reduction in meds and the 3 follies are doing well. How many is your RE targeting for the IUI? 3 sounds just about right to me.

Jennifer - happy news you starting lupron soon!!

I have decided to give myself one more little break before the FET month, I think I'll take a cycle and just focus on exersizing and eating well and we'll probably do the FET in the end of August beginning of Sept.

:rahrah: Kim, I am so excited for Monday for you!!! I am so glad it's been all good news, I think it's definatley going to continue with this trend!! :aok:

I'm so happy that things are going well for you Kim. It's about friggin' time!!!! Thinking good thoughts for your embryos!
Judy - I've already told you this but I'm glad you're taking some time for yourself before proceeding.

I'm off to my next follicle/estrogen check.

Amanda

Judy I am glad you are taking some time for yourself. I am sure this has to be emotionally draining. :hug99:

Amanda:Good luck girl. I hope the numbers are favorable!!

Amanda: Thinking of you this morning...

What did your RE say Amanda???

Man I hope it's good news!!!!!

Kim~~
You said you were "Freezing" the area for the PIO shot. Is that to reduce the pain or to make it go in easier? My last cycle I only did one PIO shot, exactly one second later the RE called with the news that no eggs fertilized so obviously I didn't have to do any more. I will tell you though, that I had my neighbor give the shot as DH wasn't home. I gave her the wrong needle (the one to inject) to extract the oil and she gave the shot with the LARGE needle (the one to extract the oil) IT HURT SO BAD, for a loooooong time. There was just a hard blob, the medicine didn't go anywhere and stayed in that spot for months. Crazy. If you could give any advice on the best way to admin. Do you do the shots yourself????

Thx

Amanda hoping you get good news today!

Jennifer, I can help with some suggestions for the PIO, I have DH give the shots, and aim for the upper left area of the 'hip' (read butt) Like if you picture where your jean pockets are, the outer half of the pocket. The nurses will draw on your behind with a sharpie at my clinic :lol:, Anyway, we make sure the PIO is warm so it flows better then I usually just lay down on the floor on my stomach and DH gives the shot then massages the area afterwards to spread the oil out, you can also put a heating pad on it - this actually isn't something I've done but I have heard people having good sucess with it. Honestly, I think the place the shot goes is really key. A few times its been too far in and I've had a huge welt and bruise for a week. If it goes where it is supposed to, I really hardly feel it :nod:

I think Kim was referring to icing it before the shot - I have also heard of someone using an RX cream called Emla to numb the area.

I've used EMLA cream for the shots. It helps with the needle pain but not the lumps that form from the oil.
My news today is cautiously optimistic. My estrogen increased to 128. I have one 10mm follicle on the left and a few 8mm follicles. Most of the follicles are still quite small. If the big follicles continue to grow without growing the small ones, I might be ok!

Amanda

That does sound positive Amanda! :ok: When do you go back for another check?

Sounding a bit better, Amanda! My fingers are crossed!

Amanda~~~Come on Follies, grow, grow!!!!!!!!

Thanks everyone. My next check is Monday morning.

Amanda

Good Luck today Amanda!

Good luck Amanda!!

Good luck today, Amanda and Kim! :cheer:

Holy cow at all you girls have to go through. :hug99: x 1 billion.

Sending all my good luck/wishes/vibes/prayers to both of you today. :vibes:

Good luck Kim! I hope all transfers well today!!!

Good luck Kim!!!! Thinking of you!!!

My check was so-so. I have a 9.5mm follicle on the right and many smaller ones on both sides. I saw my RE as I was leaving the office and he asked how things looked. I told him, "Like sh*t!" and he laughed and said "too many?" So I said "of course, it's me!" He said he'd call me later with my estrogen results. We'll see what happens...

Amanda

Good luck Kim!!! All fingers crossed!!

Amanda, hope things look 110% up for you pretty soon!!!

Kim- I hope your transfer went well today! I'm sending SUPER STICKY vibes your way!

Amanda- I hope that have a positive update today!!!!!

Thinking of you Kim~~

Amanda~~:justahug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

My transfer was scheduled for Noon today. I know that today was supposed to be a relaxing day for me. . .but it started out hectic in the morning. :crazy: I met a friend at 6:30am to hike our dogs, got home at 8am and decided that I really needed to finished cleaning. I just wanted to make sure that after my transfer, that I could really relax. I made DH get up and vacuum as I followed him with a mop. I cleaned like a frantic woman until I got into the shower 10 min. before we were supposed to leave. We got to the clinic on time and they were behind so we had to wait about an hour or so. That proved to be helpful because I took that time to pull out my Ipod and listen to my meditation/relaxation stuff. The transfer went well. They transferred 2 wonderful looking (that's what they called it) blastocyst. If the rest continue growing well, I should have about 21 eggs leave to freeze. :eak My bloodtest is on Weds. Aug 1st. Until then, I just have to try to relax. :ok:

The PIO is getting easier. Like Judy said, and what I've just realized, the key is getting the shot in the right place!

Jen~Judy and Amanda pretty much answered your question. I used the ice to numb the area before the shot. . .and believe me, I make sure it's pretty darn numb! Like Judy, administers the shot. He also massages the area to spread the oil around. Judy is so right :nod: The key is the location. I totally use a heating pad! Even though I still feel a bit bruised in the area the next morning, the heating pad helps. I can feel the difference when I don't use the heating pad. Also, I do this right before bedtime so that I don't have to get out of bed after the shot.

Amanda~I hope things went well today. :crossfing

Kim

That's wonderful news Kim!!!! And 21 to freeze!

My news today is so-so. When they plotted out my results, I had two 9.5mm follicles and one 8.5mm one. My estrogen is 219. Follicles are still small but at least my estrogen hasn't sky-rocketed. I'm going to continue 2 vials for 2 nights and go back on Wednesday.

Amanda

That is great news Kim. Now relax and let them babies make a good home!!

:rahrah: Kim, that is fantastic news, lots of frozen siblings for this little one or two that stick this time round!! Good luck on the 1st!!! :hug99:

Fingers crossed things look better on Wednesday, Amanda! :hug99:

Kim, I am very happy for you! I loved the story about you and DH cleaning. I could just imagine the two of you doing the vacuuming cleaning/mopping tango :lol:.

Now go relax (as best you can), and we will be thinking of you...

Amanda, I hope your follicles continues to grow and your estrogen continues to rise.

Keep us updated. we are praying for you!

Kim, what great news! Now try to relax and picture those little ones growing strong and healthy in your belly.

I laughed when I read about your cleaning! That's what I do when I'm stressed, worried, tired, scared, etc. My husband jokes that he is going to have a holster made for my cleaning sprays!

Amanda, I'm thinking of you and hoping that everything evens out and your next report is a positive one.

Thinking of those sticky babies Kim!!!

Thanks everyone. I hope your good thoughts do the trick!

Amanda

Kim that is great news!!! Sounds like a wonderful transfer and many totsicles to choose from in the future for siblings!! I was thinking about you all day yesterday and am very excited for you!! 8/1 is not too far away!!

Amanda I am hoping for continued steady progress for you!!

:cheer: :jump: :cheer: Kim Sending you sticky sticky vibes! Holy totsicles in the freezer girl, many siblings for this baby (or two!). You must be over the moon with exitement. Sending big sticky prayers your way! This has been a long time coming.

Amanda-Hoping Wednesday you have several awesome follies ready to make baby!

Judy-Sticky sticky totsicle thoughts for your upcoming FET.

Wow, Kim-you take nesting to a whole new level!!! Imagine how clean your house is going to be in about 7 months!!! :yippee: Can't wait until 8/1!

:bighug: Amanda... hoping the news gets better, sweetie! :crossfing

Still waiting for my E2 results. I had one 12mm, one 11mm, and one 10mm follicle. Plus, LOTS (like 30) smaller follicles. We'll see what the boss says when he gets the results. The good news is the dominant follicles are growing. The bad news is that I'm high risk for hyperstim.

Amanda

Things are worse than I thought. I actually have a 12mm, 11mm, 10mm, 9.5mm, and two 8.5mm. At least my estrogen is only 413. They're cutting back my meds to 1.5 vials and I go back tomorrow....

Amanda

My news of the day is slightly more optimistic. Today I had a 14mm follicle on the right, a 12.5 and 11 on the left. There are several more but they seem enough smaller that it may not be so bad. They will plot the follicles on the chart and see. Since my estrogen hasn't sky-rocketed, it's still probable that they'll let us go to IUI. I had my favorite nurse (we became friends during my very 1st cycle back in 2003) and she was pretty positive about stuff. I'm definitely at risk for multiple but even if it looks like I'll release 4 follicle, they'll let me go to IUI.

Amanda

I'm SO happy that things are looking up Amanda! We want an update everyday okay!!!

Sounds good, Amanda! :aok:

Kim good luck with the 2ww!!! I'm also living for August 1st! If I get to the end of day August 1st without complications, I'll be further along this time than my previous m/c.

So let's count the days...

8/1 is the day I start my new job, too. Let's hope we all get good news that day!!!

Amanda

You're right Amanda, it HAS to be a good day. 3 times lucky!!!

Amanda, yay! When is your next visit?

BTW, how do you feel about multiples?

I'm ok with twins. Not ok with more than that. The chances of having 3 or more healthy babies is low. Especially since I'm short to begin with.

Thinking of you Kim!!!

Amanda

Amanda, that is definately sounding better, atleast it's looking likely you will go to IUI! Very exciting!

I hope the 1st bring everyone nothing but happy things!

Thanks Deb.

IUI is scheduled for 10:30 on Sunday morning!!! My trigger shot is tonight!

Amanda

Best of luck on Sunday! :crossfing

Let's :cheer: for good luck on August 1st!

O.K. so now, huge news. . .I got the phone call on Tuesday morning. . .AS OF LAST NIGHT (THURSDAY) I HAVE A 2 MONTH OLD BABY IN MY HOME!!!! :bliss: Long story short, he's being fostered by us with the possibility of adoption. The bio mom has had 2 kids removed in the past and this is her 3rd. All tests at this point show that the mother didn't do drugs or drink during the pregnancy. She was caught 2 weeks ago drunk and high on Cocaine. I'm absolutely overwhelmed and enjoying it. I will write more in my journal later. . .right now, I'm off being a mommy.

Kim

OMG Kim!!!! That's just wonderful news. I'm so incredibly happy for you!!!! Wow!

Amanda

:faint: OMG, Kim!! You must be over the moon! I hope that it works out and you get to keep him. It doesn't sound like he's got much of a life with his biological mom. :(

Kim that is SO awesome. Being an adoptive mom myself, I promise you it is totally worth it!!!

How wonderful for you, Kim!!! :woo:

Aww Kim!

Go be Mommy! I am happy for you!

:faint: !!!!!! WOW!!! Kim, I am so incredibly thrilled for you, I am sure you are truly enjoying this experience, I hope that it works out and you can be his fulltime Mummy! :love1: I am so saddened that he was born to such a woman but thrilled that there are people like you to pick up the pieces and give these babies a home! I can't wait to hear more!

:yippee: Kim!

:vibes: Amanda!

:wow: Kim, what news that is! So happy that you have such a sweet little thing to foster and maybe adopt. In your short trips on line, definately let us know how it's going.

:bliss: Kim! I hope it works out for you to keep the little guy :)

Thinking of you today, Kim!!! :pray:

Kim, I am so happy for you!

Amanda, GOOD LUCK TODAY!

Thinking of you and dh today, Amanda.

I hope everything goes better than expected and you have your bfp soon!

Kim, that's amazing! I did an internship in foster care and adoption for one year, it was truly amazing. Foster parenthood is such a gift of love, and when a foster child is adopted, it's such a blessing for everyone involved. Families come together in so many different ways, huh. Let's hope that the next nine months end up RAINING babies on you and your dh!!!!!

:bliss: I am a lurker and had to come by and tell you Kim how happy I am :bliss: WOO HOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:woo: Kim!!! :bliss: that is so amazing!!! Ok I have tears running down my cheeks!!! Amazing.

Amanda I am thinking postitive for you!!!

Thanks everyone for my good wishes.
The IUI was a bit of a fiasco but turned out ok in the end. We were delayed nearly 2 hours due to a late lab tech. Poor Tom was sitting in the waiting room for almost 2 hours just waiting to give a "specimen." I was frustrated because the IUI is supposed to be timed 36 hours after the trigger shot. Needless to say mine was almost 38 hours after the shot. I don't think it'll change anything but it made me very angry!

Amanda

Eww Amanda! I can imagine dh's frustration with sitting on "standby" for 2 hours!

I would have been frustrated too. 2 hours probably won't affect anything, but IUI costs $$$...you want everything to go smoothly.

Welcome to the 2ww!

Thanks Kika!

Amanda

Poor Tom!!! :disbelief

Kim - how are you feeling these days? :bliss: How is life in your house with a new, tiny one? :bliss: I'm SOOO excited for you!!!!

Totally late to this, but OMG Kim! I'm thrilled to hear your news!!

Amanda, I'm sorry the IUI was such a touch experience, but I surely hope it works out! :crossfing

Almost the 1st!! :rahrah: I can't wait to hear your news, Kim!

Kim- I'm sorry I'm so late to congratulate you. Wow, how exciting!! I can't say enough good things about adoption. Our little guy wouldn't have had much of a chance at life if he lived with his birthmom. Thank God she realized that and placed him with us! If you have any questions about our adoption process, or just need some support (I know what it's like to become a mommy overnight with NO warning!!) PM me!! Keeping my fingers crossed for you tomorrow! Wow, you may have a very large family in no time at all!!!!

Amanda, I hope that your 2ww flies by!! Sending very sticky thoughts your way!

Thanks everyone!
I'm dying to hear news from Kim about everything!!!!

Amanda

I have a baby baby baby vibe for Kim for tomorrow! I think you are going to have a house full soon :nod:

Amanda, I'm still :giggle: and :rolleyes: at your comedy of errors... unbelievable. Hopefully it will end up being a good story for the baby book. :nod:

Holy Crap, Kim-I can't believe tomorrow is the day!!!!!!

Thinking of you, Kim!!!!!! Come talk to us!

I should say I *think* its tomorrow but I am not 100% :blush:

Can't wait to hear the results Kim!!!

Just imagine to be a mom to two little babies!!

Thinking of you today Kim!

Amanda

Good luck Kim!

Can't wait to hear about what is happening in your life Kim. :vibes: :crossfing

Good luck today, Kim :hug99: My fingers are crossed tightly!

Anxiously awaiting your post, Kim! Good luck! I too am feeling like you are going to have a full house soon. From zero to sixty, baby! :lol:

Amanda~:crossfing

Thank you so much for your good wishes and support :grouphugg I've been wanting to post in my journal and I haven't even been there yet, so thank you all for coming over here. :hug99:

Things have been great with little Nicholas! He is the sweetest baby ever. Right now, I'm still in the midst of trying to figure out childcare, if I should take time off, etc. Every day has been a little crazy (but good) and everyone has questions for me and I just keep telling people that I'm just taking it day by day. The good thing is that I haven't been obsessing about today's blood test.

I woke up to change the baby at about 4am and decided to use the bathroom myself. I was spotting. :grr: (It's a little bit of brown, not red). I totally know that this doesn't mean it over, but for me, it wasn't what I wanted to see to boost my confidence. I brought Nicholas with me to my bloodtest (because I had no choice) and the phlebotomist was taken with the baby and my story.

All I can do now is wait. If things don't work out this cycle, at least the day won't end with me drunk from the bottle of wine I would drink. I have responsibilities now. . ya know.

Kim

maybe that was implantation spotting?

I'm so happy you have little Nicholas to keep you occupied. :biggrin: Welcome to the crazy world of working moms!

Kim~~ What a blessing!! You deserve this!!
Amanda~~Come on 2ww.....What are you doing to keep busy???

Dh & I start stims on Friday here goes everything, I'm starting to get nervous, but am optimistic, no reason why this shouldn't work.

Jennifer

Kim - I'm so happy for you, regardless of what happens with your bloodtest today. Obviously I'm hoping for more GOOD NEWS!
Jennifer - I just started my new job today so hopefully that will keep me occupied. GOOD LUCK to you!!!

Amanda

:love1: Kim. I bet it's an amazing feeling to be caring for little Nicholas! I hope that the spotting meant nothing and you get positive result from the blood test, how soon do you find out?

Kim- I hope the spotting was nothing but implantation bleeding!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. I know how busy you are, but I can't wait to hear everything about baby Nicholas!!

I got a call on my cell phone yesterday as I was showing the baby around to my co-workers. I could tell it was from the clinic and didn't answer it, not wanting to ruin the moment. They didn't leave a message. I checked my work voicemail and nothing was left there so I assumed they left one on my home machine (which I don't know how to access remotely). About 2 hours later, as I was on my way home, the clinic called again and I decided, what the hell, I'm almost home. . . .IT WAS FRICKIN' POSITIVE! :bliss: I couldn't even believe it. Beta was 205 and I go back in tomorrow for another beta. This is great! However, I've been here before and remain optimistically cautious. :crossfing :pray:

I had an appointment w/ my therapist this morning and asked to go off the antidepressants because I was too happy. :crazy: She told me I could reduce the amount to half a pill for now. She reminded me that, although we wouldn't want any of this to happen, that my situation with Nicholas and my new BFP are subject to change. . .:blue:

Jen~I wish you all the best for your cycle! :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing

Amanda~I hope you're doing well.

:bighug: and :kiss: to you all.

Kim

CONGRATS Kim!!!! I had a sneaking suspicion that this cycle was going to work for you! I'm thinking sticky, sticky thoughts. Good luck tomorrow!

Amanda

:cheer: :cheer:

Hooray! I knew it was going to be positive! I think little Nicholas came along JUST at the right time. :biggrin:

:bliss: Yippee!!!! I was stalking this thread :lol:


Congratulations Kim thinking positive about Beta number 2 little steps right?

Congratulations!!! :cheer: :vibes: I'm sending positive thoughts that this baby sticks!

CONGRATULATIONS! I had such a strong feeling that you would get a positive beta! Even though you have good reason to be "cautiously optimistic", try to enjoy every second of your good fortune. You deserve it!!

Congrats Kim! I have everything crossed for a great 2nd beta!

CONGRATULATIONS KIM!!!! What WONDERFUL news!!!! Seriously, seriously wishing you a HAPPY, HEALTHY uneventful 9 months :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :yippee:

Congratulations!!! Hopefully Nicholas will give off some good baby vibes and the little one you are carrying right now will just have to stick so he/she can meet his/her big brother! You and your family are in my thoughts.

Congrats, Kim! I really hope this is it for you :crossfing

I followed everyone's profile lines over. :woo: Congratulations, Kim!! :woo: I'm so happy for you. I hope you have a beautiful and eventless 9 months. :)

Congrats Kim!!!! I'm keeping everything crossed hoping this is the one!

Congrats Kim!!!!! I am so over the moon for you!!!!!

:woo: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#):vibes: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)Kim~~YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jennifer

:woo: Kim! :woo: :woo: :woo: Everything is coming together - I have such a good feeling for you!!

Congratulations, Kim! I have everything crossed for you. ;)

Jen-good luck starting stims on Friday!!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that your cycle goes smoothly and results in a BFP!!! Keep us posted along the way! Try not to be nervous...maybe you should use Kim's mantra
THINK GOOD THOUGHTS...THINK GOOD THOUGHTS...THINK GOOD THOUGHTS. It's certainly worked for her!!!

Amanda- I hope your first day at your new job went well and that your 2ww isn't too excruciating!!!!

:crossfing :vibes: I hope all this good stuff continues for you Kim!

Kim, CONGRATULATIONS! :woo: That's the best news.

I am thinking a GAZILLION sticky thoughts for you :hug99: I am so thrilled that the first hurdle of implantation is over and now we move onto seeing that beta increase.

What is the time frame you are looking towards? as in, with your last pregnancies when was the point of m/c?

:bliss::hi5::woo:A million happy thoughts for you, Kim.

You are in my thoughts and prayers.

And :kiss: back at ya!

I am so beyond thrilled for you Kim!!!! Thinking bigtime positive thoughts for you!!!

:bliss: Congrats Kim!!! It's such great news!!