March 26th
Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD4 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD4 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD11 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD12 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD14 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD17 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD18 3DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD23 7DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD27
Haydee CD29 9DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

I can't believe we are on part 11 of this crazy journey. I hope our stay here will be short and a new batch of gals will come in and take over.

Just joining y'all here to lend some support & send hugs to all of you going thru this journey :bighug:

Thanks Mary!! :hug99:

Thanks Mary. I hope we get a big group of women graduating from this journal and real soon!

Stopping by to wish lots of BFPs on all of us!!!

Amanda

Yes, may our journey here be short and sweet and end up with beautiful singletons (or twins for those of you who are crazy enough :giggle: ), so that we are then coming to this thread to provide the much needed support to other mommies :)

Hoping for success soon for all of you!

Marcy, are you guys planning on #2 anytime soon? or are you done?

We're definately planning on trying for another. No date set in stone though, but I'm starting to be ready. I'm not charting yet (just beginning and end dates) because I'm still up once or twice a night - not getting that solid time of sleep.

Anyone have experience with temping when you're not getting the 4 hours of straight sleep that they recommend?

Ahmmm.... ME!!!!!!!!! :wavey: :lol: Well, my nights are getting better and better, Nikita pretty much does sleep 10-12 hours straight most of the nights for the last few weeks...BUT, sometimes he'll wake up and make noises in there-and while most of the time he puts himself back down, I still wake up no matter how slight the noise from him. Also, when he is sick-which we've had a couple of times in the last couple of months-he, of course, tends to wake up more for cuddles...or if teeth flare up. So things are definitely better, but i still do wake up 1-2 times a night, though fewer and fewer nights. I stopped feeding him at night at 9.5 months, i think. He didn't like it at first, but now he'll ask for it, but when I say no, he just wants to hold me then...

The reason i'm charting is because i have no idea what is hapenning with my O-because of breastfeeding... sometimes I get my period every other month, last couple of months have been every month, but cycle is longer than usual, so i just want to see what's up and whether i will need to wean him by June to start......

As far as sleep...isn't it actually 3 hours of uninterrupted sleep? I may be wrong. I think you just do what you can. I have been getting up at all odd hours of the morning last 5 days-from 4:15 today to 8 am a few days ago... I also only had 2 hours of sleep after waking up before temping today... the chart may not look ideal, but i think it'll still give us a good pattern... at least that's my hope. Let's face it, we have kids now, we will never have uninterrupted sleep, so I think you just do what you can and run with it......

want to join me in the planning stages?

ETA: i should have said join myself and Jo...she is in the planning stages as well... though I think she is just watching her cycles for timing...

That's exciting Marcy! Join us!!!

Amanda

Marcy you should temp every day at the same time with 3 hours of uninterrupted sleep. Would you like for me to add you to the list? If you want to post your chart link I can add that as well. Then we can interpret your chart. Oh Haydee will have a ball when she comes back from vacation! :lol:

Thanks all - I thought it was 4 hrs uninterupted sleep but if it's three that's better.

Melissa, don't add me yet. I'll let ya know when.

Awe..come on Marcy..join the list. :giggle: You know you want to. :lol:

I think Marcy's going to end up pregnant without ever being on the list! :lol: That's ok. De-nial isn't just a river in Egypt.....

Amanda

Hi everybody! I'm just checking in. We finally signed on the house...4 months till it's ready.

I just got caught up on reading all the posts. I can't believe we're on a new thread. I hope we all have BFP's soon. And how exciting that we may be getting a few new members!!!!

Melissa, I'm in ATL right now, so if you decide you need to go whip that dr's arse just let me know. I'll drive down 7 hours and I'll have your back :aok:. I hope you get an Easter surprise.

No BFP's for me. At least I don't think. But I should be back in the ring as a contender come May.

I think Marcy's going to end up pregnant without ever being on the list! :lol: That's ok. De-nial isn't just a river in Egypt.....

Amanda

Hey I have been in De-nial. :lol: It's a cool place for a while. :whistle: But you eventually have to get out and face reality. That can bite. :lol:

Melissa, I'm in ATL right now, so if you decide you need to go whip that dr's arse just let me know. I'll drive down 7 hours and I'll have your back :aok:. I hope you get an Easter surprise.

I was wondering where you were! That is great that you signed on the house!! Now you will be closer to me..not Lena!! :lol: I guess 7 hours is a little far to meet for coffee though. However, on the plus side you will be close enough that maybe you will visit Disney and we can meet up there! :ok: Four months until your house is ready..that puts it right around July/August. Cool.
As for that doctor female (I can't call her a lady cause I called her the "C" word :lol2: ) I may take you up on your offer there to kick her arse. She's such a hateful wench. Oh and if I get my surprise on Easter it wouldn't be the first time. When I got pg with David I found out the Friday after Easter.

just checking in clomid drove me nuts this months trust me to have problems when I am not seeing RE, major major cramps, need to get jase into bed tonight :lol: but our bloody brat (nope beautiful boy) has taken to staying up late :yawn: so Jase is asleep when I get to bed :yawn:

anyway I'm here hoping we all have short journeys :)

Now you will be closer to me..not Lena!! :lol: :snob:

March 27th

Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD5 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD5 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD12 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD13 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD15 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD18 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD19 4DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD24 8DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD28
Haydee CD30 10DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

:snob:

Awww don't be like that!! :lol:

Im in a waiting pattern because I don't want to have another December baby. DH is going to hate going back to condoms this month after 4 months without them :lol:

I have good news on a friend of mine and I feel this is a place to share! My friend Stacy that I have talked about lately with so much sarrow in her life...well..they have been trying to get pg. Granted the Death of their daughter will be coming this June but she felt she could try again! So they have been trying since November. (they got pg with Ella using clomid) This is the first cycle they are using clomid and she went for her altrasound yesterday. She started to cry on the table and realized that the last time she was there was the day they told her that her full term baby had no heart beat :cry: She hadn't even thought about it till that moment so she prayed and hoped for some good news from this.

She has two folocies (Is that what you call them) they said they like them to measure between 20-25 and she has one that is 22 and one that is 25 :cheer: When she got pg with Ella it was only at 18! If you pray..please pray that this is it for her. They so need some good news!

Thinking of your friend Jayne!
Good luck Rachel.
How are you doing Melissa?
Kika - Any symptoms?

Still waiting to O. That's the story of my life.

Amanda

I feel kinda crampy on the left side. This cycle really has thrown me for a loop. I know that I am supposed to be the chart interpreter while Haydee is gone...but I just don't have it in me. My chart makes no sense. My temps are starting to rise. The ovulation monitor that I am using is telling me that I peaked yesterday and today which means ovulation is about to occur but the information that I read online says that I should have ovulated 40-45 hours after the shot which would have been Sunday. :gah: I don't know.
On top of that I am feeling down because of what the doctor said to me Friday. I know I shouldn't let her get to me like that but now I am wondering if maybe I am to old to be trying for another baby. Am I just setting myself up for failure? Is this the time I just throw in the towel and say forget it and just focus all my attention and energy on the beautiful miracle that God has blessed me with? I hate feeling like this. I like my positive attitude and happy go lucky ways. I just don't have it in me this cycle. She really deflated me Friday. Then to add insult to injury...I forgot to :sex: last night. :sigh:

Now aren't you sorry you asked? :lol:

I will say a prayer for your friend Jayne. How terrible to remember the pain she felt as she was up on the table. :hug99: That had to be rough.

If you're too old Melissa, what the heck am I doing????
Don't lose hope and don't let some dumb b*tch make you feel bad. Just because you'd like to have another child doesn't mean you're ungrateful for what you have!!!

Amanda

Thanks Amanda.:hug99:

I agree!! there are woman on this very site who were older by many years, I think Bev was 37 or 38 when she fell pregnant with Graham. Don't let that bitch get you down, she is just trying to palm you off to someone else because she doesn't want to deal with it. POO POO on her!! :hug99:

Jayne, I hope your friend can finally have some happiness.

Just wanted to say :hithere: and :vibes: :bfp:s soon to you all!

I had Flynn at 36 so fook that OB!:catfight:

Jayne: Your friend is in my prayers.

Rachel: sorry the Clomid made you feel nutty.

Amanda: "Waiting to O" sounds like the title of a book. Once we are all pg again, we should all get together and write a book. We'll fill it with inspiration stories (our own and others) of women waiting to O and getting through the 2ww, and finally getting what they want.

On a more serious note, have your cycles always been annovulatory (that you know of)? Since your teenage years, or is it a recent development (in your 30's)? I'm sure you probably said before and I missed it.

Lena and Melissa you are too funny. I'll always come back to Chicago to visit the fam...and I'm sure a trip to Disney/Universal Studios is in our future, too. I haven't been in 6 years or so.

And as for that doc Melissa, I feel sorry for her. With her attitude, she will need to retire soon. 34 is not too freakin' old. I have friends (many friends, not just a handful) who haven't even gotten married yet, let alone try to start a family. And I have others who are married, but in the first year or two, and still enjoying married life before having a baby. They are all 33 to 36 years old. If this doctor thinks 34 is an advanced age, she is in trouble. If she continues to exude that negative attitude, she will be left without many patients.

As for me, no real symptoms. I had a migraine yesterday, and today my bb's hurt...so AF is coming. Hopefully she can wait until Saturday night when I am back home.

Awww don't be like that!! :lol: You know I'm just playin'! :lol:
I just had an idea-you and me-Disney Marathon-one of these days (i mean, years).... ah???

Jayne, I will pray for your friend. I canNOT imagine finding out your full term baby died..... how horribly painful and unfair. Ihope this is it for her and that if it is, she has the courage to go through the pregnancy and have a live baby at the end. :hug99: to you and to her.

Looks like you and I might be in the same pg group together then!? YEAH!

Melissa, if she has affected you this much, have you thought of voicing it somehow? You could either talk to your good dr about it, or maybe even write a letter to her? nothing disrespectful or mean, just saying that the things she said (specific things: your age, etc etc) really got you down, you know plenty of women that got pg with those scenarios...and either way, that you feel the OB role is to be a support-system, not to bring you down... and that you want her to be aware of the effect her words had on you and you wish she'd be more sensitive and supportive?

I dont know, maybe it's cheesy, but i think that a) if she got you upset, chances are, other women are upset too by her attitude, and b) it may just be that she kind of forgot what it's like to be on the other side-the result of a hazard of being in the industry, so to speak, and maybe reminding her she is dealing with ppl would help your relationship with her.... (that's if we give her the benefit of the doubt. If she is mean, she won't get it, but then, you know you at least made an effort and you'll feel better by having taken the higher road.....)

Maybe i'm just rambling..... either way, :hug99: to you, dear!!!! HOpe today is better!

Lena and Melissa you are too funny. I'll always come back to Chicago to visit the fam...
You'd better! :lol:

You know I'm just playin'! :lol:
I just had an idea-you and me-Disney Marathon-one of these days (i mean, years).... ah???
Sounds good..

Melissa, if she has affected you this much, have you thought of voicing it somehow? You could either talk to your good dr about it, or maybe even write a letter to her? nothing disrespectful or mean, just saying that the things she said (specific things: your age, etc etc) really got you down, you know plenty of women that got pg with those scenarios...and either way, that you feel the OB role is to be a support-system, not to bring you down... and that you want her to be aware of the effect her words had on you and you wish she'd be more sensitive and supportive?

I dont know, maybe it's cheesy, but i think that a) if she got you upset, chances are, other women are upset too by her attitude, and b) it may just be that she kind of forgot what it's like to be on the other side-the result of a hazard of being in the industry, so to speak, and maybe reminding her she is dealing with ppl would help your relationship with her.... (that's if we give her the benefit of the doubt. If she is mean, she won't get it, but then, you know you at least made an effort and you'll feel better by having taken the higher road.....)

Maybe i'm just rambling..... either way, :hug99: to you, dear!!!! HOpe today is better!

Thanks a million!! I have thought about talking to my doctor about her and her negative talk and how it has affected me. My plan is to wait and see what this cycle holds for me. Hopefully I won't have to deal with another cycle. KWIM. IF I do then, I plan to make an appointment with my doctor and talk to him about a plan and what she said and how it's affected me and my choices.

Kika - Yup. Always anovulatory. Frustrating and annoying!
Now Lena's trying to get all of us to run marathons. :rolleyes: :lol:

Amanda

I know, i'm vicious and mean and have an agenda :lol: watch out!

Jayne, I will pray for your friend. I canNOT imagine finding out your full term baby died..... how horribly painful and unfair. Ihope this is it for her and that if it is, she has the courage to go through the pregnancy and have a live baby at the end. :hug99: to you and to her.

Looks like you and I might be in the same pg group together then!? YEAH!

IT was the most awful thing I have ever been through so I can't even imagine all she felt.

Looks like we might if we can figure out how to get pg :dunno:

Jayne, I hope this is it for Stacy!!! I felt the same way going into the office just for my yearly, knowing what happened last time I had been there, I can only imagine how much more magnified it was for her to be there again.

Hopefully you will get to be pg together!!!!

melissa-I'll have to go back and read what your dr said but you are NOT too old!!! And you have enough love for 2 for sure!!! no doubt about that!!

Good luck to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT was the most awful thing I have ever been through so I can't even imagine all she felt.

Looks like we might if we can figure out how to get pg :dunno:
may I ask what happened to you? (if you don't feel like talking about it, you don't have to............)

.......and you will get pg, don't worry....i know you are anxious :)

may I ask what happened to you? (if you don't feel like talking about it, you don't have to............)

.......and you will get pg, don't worry....i know you are anxious :)

I think she means going through it as her friend......:secret: I think...LOL

I think she means going through it as her friend......:secret: I think...LOL oh, ok :blush: I'm a little slow sometimes (a lot of times).

:secret: Hey Lena. Step away from the crack pipe! :lol: Kidding. I kid!

:secret: Hey Lena. Step away from the crack pipe! :lol: Kidding. I kid! why, so you take over???? I know you, i've seen you eye that crack pipe!:shhh:

What's new in everyone's world????
I'm still waiting to see if the clomid works. If I O at all, it's pretty late so I'll give things another week or 2. If nothing, I may take provera again.

Amanda

why, so you take over???? I know you, i've seen you eye that crack pipe!:shhh:

Well yeah!! :whistle: Bogart! :lol:

Amanda I am in the same boat as you. I am waiting to O or to find out when I O'd. This hCG shot has really screwed up my brain this month. I don't like it!

ETA: Well apparently FF has decided to go along with what I read online and has put that I ovulated Sunday. This actually works out great for me as dh has been a bit of a pain in the ass lately and :sex: just isn't working for us the past couple days. :giggle: Odd that the monitor showed that I just ovulated though. I guess the shot really can throw off everything. :dunno: I am not a doctor. I Just play one on tv.

March 28th


Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD6 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD6 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD13 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD14 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD16 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD19 3DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD20 5DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD25 9DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD29
Haydee CD31 11DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

I'm working on getting 3 hours of uninterrupted sleep consistently :lol: Hopefully, then my chart won't look like it's been on Melissa's crack pipe (i'm giving up the ownership to you, daaalin' :hehe: )

Yes Lena, Kara is right. She is one of my closest friend. I felt like the child was take from me and it wasn't even my child. I can't even come close to knowing her loss.

But I like Melissa's thought that your on the crack pipe :lol:

Well for me AF left and DH is home from Chicago...of course he can't come near me this month so it is a waiting game. I think I will keep it a waiting game until end of May early June...That puts us out of the holiday area!

I'm working on getting 3 hours of uninterrupted sleep consistently :lol: Hopefully, then my chart won't look like it's been on Melissa's crack pipe (i'm giving up the ownership to you, daaalin' :hehe: )

Thanks! I have missed it so much since you stole it from me. :peace:

Thanks! I have missed it so much since you stole it from me. :peace: Melissa= :screwy:



:lol2:

March 29th


Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD7 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD7 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD14 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD15 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD16 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD20 4DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD21 6DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD26 10DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD30
Haydee CD32 12DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

Melissa= :screwy:



:lol2:


:tongue2: :snob:


:lol2:

Great use of smilies people! :giggle:

See, Deb totally gets us! :aok:

:awink:
:lol2:

you guys are cracking me up

See, Deb totally gets us! :aok:

:awink:
:lol2:


:shhh: It's cause she used to hit the :airquote: pipe:airquote: once or twice before getting pg. :lol: She was all like...:gimi: and then was:bliss: and :moon2:

:laughat: Oh my..I kill myself!!

Note to Melissa's dr: NO MORE shots for this girl! :screwy:

(though I have to say, it's prolly true about Deb..... :awink: )

(too bad i'm leaving for the day and won't get to participate in ttc insanity for a few hours...... :mope: )

:shhh: It's cause she used to hit the :airquote: pipe:airquote: once or twice before getting pg. :lol: She was all like...:gimi: and then was:bliss: and :moon2:

:laughat: Oh my..I kill myself!!



:smoke: :shhh: :whistle:

I gottcha girl. ;)

You guys are nuts.

Maybe I'll take my temp tomorrow. Or maybe I'll continue to live in oblivion :roseglass.

How's Atlanta??

Well, it was warm (mid to upper 80's) till about 2 hours ago. Now it's in the low 60's tonight and tomorrow is going to be chilly too.

We went and pick out the final materials for the house. The brick was the hardest. I was getting to the point where I didn't care. We picked a light brown brick called Brown's Ferry with "Spanish Moss" shutters. For the inside, we went with "Harvest Oak" hardwood floors (it's Shaw's brand I think; it's kinda a reddish-medium brown), "Toffee" maple cabinets with Baltic Brown granite. We also have silver/nickel hardware and light fixtures. The ceramic tile is some boring thing I can't remember the name of...same with the marble in the bathroom...can't remember... After a while, the kids were restless and I was overwhelmed... :rolleyes:

Can you believe today he wanted to pick out rooms and start talking about furniture? I thought I'd retch. I'm sick of thinking about the house :yawn:.

So now I'm waiting on AF.

Wow, sounds like you guys got a LOT done!! :whoo: COOL! Your choices for the house sound beautiful!! That house will be huge and gorgeous!

You guys are still coming back on April 1?

Look at all the craziness that I missed today! I think I'm getting ready to O. That would be a small miracle by itself!!!!

Amanda

Amanda, I hope you O and then "O" :giggle:.

Lena, we'll get back some time late Saturday night.

My fingers are crossed the miracle happens, Amanda :hug99:

Amanda good luck on the Oing and then the "O"ing..:giggle:

Kika: Your house sounds lovely. Maybe once you move in I can talk dh into going to Six Flags and we can stop by and visit. ;) How close will you be to Six Flags? Is it even still there?

March 30th

Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD8 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD8 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD15 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD16 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD17 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD21 3DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD22 7DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD27 11DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD31
Haydee CD33 13DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

Ok someone please help (Amanda, since you are our resident doctor). I read that I would ovulated 40-45 hours after injection of hCG. FF just moved my O date to CD18 not 16. Is that possible? Crap I hope not cause then this cycle is a complete bust and I have a nasty bruise on my ass for nothing. :sigh:

Hey Melissa. I think FF is wrong in moving your O date. Looks like it should be CD 16 to me. It might move it back after a few more temps.

Good luck!

Thanks Brooke!

Melissa, Six Flags is still there. I went last fall. Six Flags is west of Atlanta, and we will be just east in Tucker, GA. But it's not far...maybe 30 mins?

I would love for you guys to come...and maybe you guys could still with us and save some $$$ instead of a hotel...See what you can do about convincing DH.

hmmmm Melissa.. I, too, think you O'd not on day 18.. i think it's day 15, though? Isn't there a dip as you O? i may be a little rusty on the particulars, but either way, by looking at your chart, I'd say, CD 15 or 16..

I've found that charting after taking an hcg shot isn't very helpful!

Amanda

Hey, wait Amanda! Miami???

I must have missed that before... Miami would be a dream!

I've found that charting after taking an hcg shot isn't very helpful!

Amanda

That is not what I wanted to hear! :lol: Kidding! I figured that would be the answer.:shuffle:

Hey girls!! I'm back!!! No, you're not hallucinating, you are seeing smoke signals like I promised Kika. And yes, like I promised, I would update you when there's good news. So without further ado, I got the :bfp: this morning!!!!! Let me just say that again, 'cause it sounds so nice.... I got the :bfp: !!! I cannot stop praying and thanking God for being so good to us!!!

So those of you in the 2ww - here's some symptoms/none symptoms update.

Nothing different than other cycles except for some cramping on 10DPO's. It felt like af cramping but it was more like a "pulling my stomach" sensation. Then I once again had lots of cm like the previous cycle, only difference was that this time it was yellowish and not clear/white as usual. I always start spotting on 12DPO's and no spotting this time round. Then nothing on 13DPO's and this morning when I hit 14 DPO's without any sign of af, I tested and there was a very clear line!!

what did I do different this cycle than other cycles?
Well, I chucked the thermo on 5DPO's (although I don't think that got me pregnant!). But it surely made the obsession and wondering and stress a LOT easier.

Then on 9DPO's I went clothes shopping. I spend lots of $$$$ to upgrade my winter wardrobe, and no I did not buy any maternity clothes! So my whole new winter wardrobe will not fit me by the time June and winter arrives! But I'm definitely not complaining. The shopping spree definitely aided in getting me pregnant as old Murphy stayed true to his nature!

So pretty please will you pray that this is a sticky baby and that everything will go normal! Now the m/c paranoia sets in. However, this news is very significant. Today is the 2 year anniversary of DH's late wife and unborn child's death. I said to him today that God is telling him something - on the anniversary of death, He is giving us new life! What an awesome God!!

Since this is my first biological child, I have no idea what to expect and what is normal and what isn't! When I'm cramping, I'm wondering if it is the normal kind of cramping or whether or not it could be an ectopic. When I'm not cramping I'm wondering if the little one is still there and not dying! I'm gonna drive myself (and my gyno nuts!!).

I haven't yet read the posts posted while on holiday and don't know if I'll have time today at the internet cafe. However, I'll check in on 10 April. And I have bad news for you girls! I may have graduated, but ya not kickin me outta here! I'm gonna the best cheerleading squad ever!!

CONGRATULATIONS :ura1: Come join us in the pregnancy group! :hug99:

That's just awesome news, I am very happy for you.

Let me just give you this to "calm" you. The worries you are having don't stop, no matter how many children you have. I am on my 4th pregnancy and I still worry every cramp, every lack of morning sickness, every lack of movement and all the thoughts that go through your mind just don't ever get easier :lol: Not to mention when they are actually born then a whole new set of worries start. :giggle:

Just know we are all here for you through it good or bad.

HAYDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! :bliss: Congratulations, girlie!!!!!!!! :bliss: I'm so freaking happy for you!!! AWW!!!! :congrats:

You must be on cloud 9! How very exciting!!!!! Tell us everything, how do you feel? What is going through your head? Talk all you want-we want to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry about not knowing what to do as it's your first.. This site is fully of pretty great moms who give good advice any time you need it.... Also, lucky for you, Deb and Melissa both are in your pg group and are both pg with their 4th-so you'll have WEALTH of experience to draw from-i'm so jealous you get to be in the same pg group with them!! But very happy for you!!

Honey, please try not to worry too much about m/c. I know it's totally normal with any pregnancy, especially first, but you'll be fine-you've trusted God so far, don't stop now ;) As far as cramping, totally normal. When I got pg with Nikita, I thought the cycle was a bust b/c i felt AF-like cramps and i thought she was on her way. Then, cramping was still there and AF wasn't... Now I have a beautiful 15-month old :) So it's normal. ONly time you do need to worry is when it's sharp pain and you are doubling over in pain-then call your doc immediately.

Now, how many tests have you taken since your last post? :lol:

Congrats Haydee!!!
Praying for a sticky baby and a great 9 months!!!

:woo: Haydee I am crying with tears of pure joy for you and your dh!! Indeed, what an awesome God to give you a :bfp: on the anniversary of such sorrow. I will pray that you and this little one are healthy and in 9 months we see a beatiful "little Haydee". Congratulations sweetie and enjoy every moment of it (as much as you can). :hug99: I am soo happy for you!!!! This is just awesome!!

March 31st

Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD9 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD9 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD16 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD17 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD18 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD22 4DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD23 8DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD28 12DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD32
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

:cheer: Congratulations Haydee!! :cheer:What wonderful news you shared with us.
I pray that your baby will grow bigger & stronger everyday for the next 9 months!! :pray:

Congrats Haydee!!!! :bliss: :pray: for a sticky baby :pray:

From the due date calculator it's showing a Dec 3rd baby :aok: how exciting!

Come join us over at the pregnancy group http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=198 it will be nice to have more people to play with.

I am counting on everyone else on that list to be joining us in the next few weeks too! :heee:

Haydee, congratulations! I am so excited for you. Definately ask any questions that you have around here - you'll get such good advice. What a beautiful sign for you, on what was such a hard day for your DH.

I had to LOL at your comment about the $$$ towards the winter wardrobe that you can't wear. I don't think that you'll mind having those unworn clothes in the closet this winter.

CONGRATS Haydee!!! I'm so happy for you!!!!

Amanda

April 1st

Cycle Buddies
Jolene CD5
Jackie CD10 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD10 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD17 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD18 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD19 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD23 5DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD24 9DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD29 13DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

I'm still excited for Haydee!!!
FF is saying I O'ed but I think that's unlikely. I guess only time will tell. Usually my post-O temps are much, much higher.

Amanda

What cycle day did you O on last time you did clomid?

April 2nd

Cycle Buddies
Kika CD3 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD6
Jackie CD11 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD11 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD18 4DPO Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD19 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD20 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD24 6DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD25 10DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

What cycle day did you O on last time you did clomid?

I didn't! :lol:

Amanda

I am just getting to this thead. CONGRATS Haydee!!! :cheer: I am so happy for you!!!

Hey. I have a question. A friend of mine is having an amnio (sp?) done today. Can anyone explain the procedure and how she may feel during and after?

They'll do a sonogram. While doing the sonogram they stick a big-a$$ needle thru the skin and into the uterus. They withdraw some fluid (amniotic fluid). What hurts is when the needle goes thru the uterus. I didn't think the procedure was too bad but I know other people thought it was awful. The biggest issue with amnio is it can cause premature labor. The risk is pretty low. She should take it easy that day! I didn't have any problems and I really didn't think it was a big deal (except waiting for the results which sucked!).
Good luck to her!

Amanda

She's having it done as we speak. She took the day off. I know she was pretty worried about it. She has a huge fear of losing the baby. She's the friend that I was speaking about a few months ago that got pg and didn't really want to be. Well she was pg about 10 years ago and went in for her last check up and the baby was dead. The umbilical cord was wrapped around her neck. She was really nervous about having this procedure done because (from my understanding) there is a low risk of miscarriage. Is that true? Thanks Amanda for the information.

Melissa, yes, there is about a .5% chance risk of mc, from what I remember... either that or 1%. Very low, but you can't help but think of that half/one percent when it's your baby. We researched it with Nikita b/c Damon has a translocation chromosome syndrome running in his family and he is a carrier: two chromosome switch pieces, which can cause severe defects in baby...or baby can be normal... usually, the defects are so severe the body rejects the baby early on.. Needless to say, I was very worried about it... We did an extensive 20 week u/s and when I saw that all his measurements were right on track, I figured he *had* to be developing normally, and it's not like we'd abort if he did have a problem, just a chance to prepare, I guess. In the end, having that small chance of m/c made us decide to forego the amnio so i never actually had it done...just know a lot about it theoretically :lol:

Having a day off is good. She will probably be told this, but if not, do tell her to take it REALLY easy today-as in-sit on the couch with legs up all day.....

I am sure her fiance` won't let her do a darn thing. He's really good with her. I am going to call her around lunch time to check on her. Thanks for all the information Lena.

The risk is that the needle will "irritate" the uterus enough to cause labor. I guess at that stage of pregnancy it's still called a miscarriage instead of just really early labor? My ob/gyn also told me to drink a small glass of wine because alcohol helps prevent uterine contractions. In the old days they used to give IV alcohol to prevent early labor!!!

Amanda

So if I stop by her house tonight I should bring over a bottle of wine for her?? ;)

Melissa...... :lol:

HEy Melissa.

I had an amnio with Rebekah. It was scary but it wasn't bad at all! I would have one done again. The worst part, like Amanda said, was the needle when it entered the uterus. It was a lot of pressure and a pop-like feeling that makes you cringe. It wasn't painful, and they don't numb you because they say that the numbing needle hurts worse and won't stop the icky feeling when they hit the uterus.
I watched the whole thing on the ultrasound. And we got the best u/s photos of Rebekah that day because the equipment was so good.

I hope your friend does ok. She should rest for the rest of the day.

I just spoke with her and she is resting comfortably. She told me what she was having!!!


It's a BOY:bteddy:!!! I am just so excited for her!!! She sounded great and just really giddy with excitement!!! Now we can start buying baby clothes and stuff for her!!! :bliss:

awwww :love3:

Great news Melissa!!!

Amanda

WHEW!!!! Am I behind or WHAT?!?!?!? :giggle:

I should be CD6 today. :blush: AF was here, did her thing and is gone and I'm just updating... :lol: Yeah... I'm on the ball!!!!! :lol:

Oh my god, I don't sign on for a few days and Haydee's pg??!!!!

:nana: Congratulations Haydee! :bliss:

We are all so happy for you! How exciting to get pg on vacation!

Save a space for each of us! We will be over in the pregnancy group with you soon!

And ask as many questions as you like...We"ll do our best to answer...or get the answer. And Deb is right. The worrying is normal and never ceases...after they are born, you have new worries. It's called motherhood :lol:. According to my mom, I'm 33 and it hasn't stopped yet.

Melissa, is this your friend's first baby? How far along is she? I didn't know they could tell you the sex the same day from the amnio. How exciting for her to know she is having a boy! I wonder if I will have to have an amnio next time :scratch:. Do they offer them to everyone once you approach 35, or only if there is a reason to?

Oh, by the way, I am CD 3:giggle:. I'll go update now.

:lol: Amanda: Okay then, well, hopefully this cycle will do what clomid has never done before with you, not only make you O but get you pregnan too.

Kika: I hope the planets align that somehow you and your partner can be in the same room this cycle at the right moment :brow: So you don't have to wait till May! :heee:

Melissa: I am glad your friend is ok, and got to find out the sex and is excited :aok:

April 3rd

Cycle Buddies
Kika CD4 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD7
Jackie CD12 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD12 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD19 5DPO Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD20 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD21 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD25 7DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD26 11DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

Melissa, is this your friend's first baby? It's her second pregnancy but her first child. She was pg 10 years ago and on her last appointment they couldn't find the heartbeat. Come to find out the cord was wrapped around the baby's neck.

How far along is she? I am not sure but I want to say around 16 weeks. I know she found out in December.

I didn't know they could tell you the sex the same day from the amnio. How exciting for her to know she is having a boy! I guess while they do the amnio they also take u/s pictures and that is how she found out...clear as a bell. I saw the u/s and immediately knew what I was looking at. It was so cool!

I wonder if I will have to have an amnio next time :scratch:. :dunno: :lol:
Do they offer them to everyone once you approach 35, or only if there is a reason to? I don't know if they "offer" them or not, but with her history she is considered high risk, so they did the amnio. She's only 28

Ok, I broke up your post so it would be easier to respond..

WHEW!!!! Am I behind or WHAT?!?!?!? :giggle:

I should be CD6 today. :blush: AF was here, did her thing and is gone and I'm just updating... :lol: Yeah... I'm on the ball!!!!! :lol:

Get on the ball lady!!! :lol2:

How are you feeling, Melissa? Any gut feelings? any physical feelings? enquiring minds want to know :lol:

How are you feeling, Melissa? Any gut feelings? any physical feelings? enquiring minds want to know :lol:

I feel very grumpy today. BB's are tender but they always are pre-af so I can't bank on that one. My gut says I am not pg...but what do I know??:sigh:

Ok, I broke up your post so it would be easier to respond..

Thanks! I saw your post about your friend's experience 10 years ago. She is only 28? That means she was only 18? That is terrible...I cannot imagine going through something so emotional, especially at so young of an age.

When I was pg with my ds at 21, my co-worker's cousin was pg at the same time. Her cousin was the same age as me, and we were due 2 weeks apart (she was 2 weeks ahead of me). We both had unexpected pregnancies, but were now very excited about our upcoming babies. We would hit the same milestones, me right behind her. A week or two before her due date, she thought the baby stopped moving. Her dr gave her an u/s to relax her, but could not find the h/b. I was shocked...and panicked. I felt so sorry for her. What do you do with that? You weren't trying to be pg in the first place, but you come to terms with it, and then something like that happens. And since you weren't trying in the first place, you aren't going to try for another anytime soon, KWIM? Very sad.

I am happy that your friend has another chance at having such joy. And I am happy that her doctors are taking every precaution. I will be praying for a healthy baby for her!

I feel very grumpy today. BB's are tender but they always are pre-af so I can't bank on that one. My gut says I am not pg...but what do I know??:sigh:

Do the AF symptoms usually start 7 DPO?

As for me, another AF has come and gone in less than 48 hours. And as usual, she was light and scant. I know I should be grateful, but it worries me. Immensely.

To boot, my DF and I had a talk. A very long talk. We just could not seem to get the dates matched up...But then he confesses that he doesn't want to ttc. He admitted he only said he wanted to start trying because I was worried about my irregular cycles. And because after all the tests, the doctor told me to see a specialist because of my "age". He knows it is my dream to have a baby in a loving, healthy relationship, and he wanted to give me my dream. But the truth is he is not ready...

I am sad, embarrassed and worried. I waited 8 years for my ex-husband to be ready to have a baby. And I was patient. I never complained to him or shared my pain. Three weeks before our wedding, I found out I was pg. I was elated, and rushed to call him with the news. My ex was anything but happy. He was worried about what his mom would think, what his colleagues at Harvard would think, etc. His parents were already unhappy about him marrying someone with two young children from a previous relationship. He was adamant about me not going through with the pregnancy. I was devastated. I could not understand how someone who loved me could want me to do that. He was relentless, and made all sorts of threats to call off the wedding. I was 24 and lost. I let him bully me. A week before our wedding, I had an A/B. I cried all through it. The :asshat2: never even hugged me or said he was sorry.

I am embarrassed because I was so excited to try with DF, and I thought we wanted the same thing, and I feel so silly now.

I am worried about the changes in my period. I guess I have no choice but to be patient, but it is hard. I am scared that once he is ready, the chance may have passed me by.

I am hurt, too. I feel like what is wrong with me that no one wants to have a baby with me? I know that is silly thinking, but it is how I am feeling right now. And I know I have made a lot of mistakes. I just feel like I am being punished.

I will still be here, cheering everyone else on, but I am not ttc right now.

Oh Kika............... :hug99: I'm just sitting here :bawl: for you..... I'm SO sorry. You have all the right to feel the way you do, and I hope that your DF understands the pain he is causing you-SOON. Have you talked to him about it-does he know exactly how you feel?? That is such a horrible place to be.... and let me assure you that it's not YOU, the issues are certainly his, although, as a woman, i of course understand how you would take it so personally. But please, please, please know it's not you.

Do you want to have lunch together tomorrow? I can come out by your work, if you have some time... or we can have coffee after you get off- i have to pick up N at 5:30 in Elgin by Bowes rd, so it should be in the vicinity of where you are at-i can have coffee with you when you get off work and then run some other errands before picking him up.

Oh Kika! I am so sorry to hear that DF isn't in the same place. You already know that it's not you. Your ex is definately an :asshat: and it's a good thing that you kicked him to the curb. I can't believe he couldn't at least give you a hug after all you went through. As for your current situation, place it in Gods hands and He will take care of it. It sucks and it's not fair. Please don't make the same mistake by not talking about your feelings with your DF. Communication is very important! :hug99:

I had those same feelings of guilt and felt like I was being punished after being forced to do what you did. When I did start trying to have a baby with my husband it took me over a year to get pregnant and every period I got was another month of me beating myself up and telling myself I was being punished for what I did. :hug99: I know that pain, but know now that it wasn't the case, it was just my guilt talking myself into that.

Did your fiance tell you when he would be ready? I would definately express to him how your age is advancing, you are not old by any means, but in the fertility world every year is closer and closer to more problems. Especially if you are already experiencing them. My husband was not ready to start trying, he did it because I wanted it. I knew that but chose to ignore that and keep on keeping on, after it taking us a year it took a good 6 months for him to be truly onboard, then it took a further 6 months of endless trying and clomid to finally get us there, when I was finally pregnant and he saw the first u/s he had tears in his eyes and thanked me for convincing him to have a baby.

I think men are a bit harder to convince. Not all men, but a good chunk of them. If this is something you really want, then personally I wouldn't let it go. I would continue to express your feelings and make sure he is just not thinking of himself. I told my husband that if he could give me good reasons to why he wasn't ready then I would listen and be open to it, like I expected him to be open to my reasons for wanting to try. It worked for us because he didn't have any good reasons other than his own shelfishness of wanting to stay "free" and in my eyes that was not good enough because sooner or later you have to grow up and I asked him would he ever truly get rid of that feeling? and he couldn't answer that, so he knew that it wasn't a good enough reason.

Anyway, we are here for you no matter what :hug99:

Thank you Lena, Melissa, and Deb. :grouphugg You guys are so sweet. I have already talked to DF, and I think he knows how I feel. He has been one of my closest friends for more than a decade so he knows all of my experiences. It's hard though...How do you decide whose feelings are more important, mine or his, KWIM? I know I don't want to go through what I have been through before...pg when the father is not feeling it.

And I know he doesn't want to wait long...probably 6 months or so. It shouldn't be a big deal, what's 6 months, right? His reasons: we do not live in the same home and we are not married. But we will be before the baby is born. He also wants to be part of the pregnancy every day, from day one. And the truth is, I would rather have the luxury of waiting, too. I would love to be settled into the new house and new position at work, and then try. These transitions will be easier w/o throwing pg into the mix. His reasons for waiting are good reasons.

I wish I had a magic fertility crystal ball...I could look at it and know whether or not my fertility will be intact in 6 months to a year. Then I could stop panicking over the irregular cycles.

I think today he is wishing he did not say anything yesterday. He has asked me today to send him my fertility calendar and a link to an ovulation calculator. He also said my dreams are his dreams, and he wants to make me happy.

I appreciate his efforts, but I can't come down from yesterday. We talked at great length about holding off, and I spent the entire day today coming to terms with it.

I don't want to hijack the TTC forum with this. I just don't know what the next step will be. I appreciate you guys listening.

Well if that is the case, you are right 6 months is not a massive amount of time (even though you could argue, what's the difference, 6 months now or later :giggle: ) but it sounds like you agree with his reasons.

I think that in the meantime you should continue to fertility tests etc to make sure you are ovulating etc so that when you do start you know what you are dealing with :hug99: I am sorry it's not what your heart wanted to hear though.

It sounds like you have a good man there, and it's so nice that he wants to be there for you every day :love1:

oh you posted inbetween!

MEN! :lol: That is exactly something my husband would do, he would express his feelings but when he sees my reaction he feels guilty and just wants to make me happy. It means they love us :nod:

I think I agree with what Melissa said to me before: "Men, you can't live with 'em, you can't shoot 'em!"

I love that saying! :lol:

I'm sorry Kika. That's so frustrating!

Amanda

I'm so glad we are having coffee tomorrow, Rakiya!!!!!

Kika. I will say one thing..you have a good man. While all his points are valid and really good reasons not to get pg right now..the fact that you may not have the option 6 months from now trumps it. It sounds like he actually listened to you (men usually don't do that hense my thought that he's a good one) and heard what you were saying. Well that and he probably feels guilty for making you sad. Just keep the lines open and the two of you will come to something that works for both of you. :hug99:

April 4th

Cycle Buddies
Kika CD5 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD8
Jackie CD13 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD13 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD20 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD21 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD22 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD26 8DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD27 12DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

I totally agree, Kika..... My first reaction to your post was that he was acting like your ex, a little bit.... but the more you posted and after we talked on the phone last night, I see that he really does care and just wants to be a part of it. It is SO important to tell him-write him, email him, whatever it takes-EXACTLY how you feel and what you told us... he may know you are sad b/c you want a baby, but does he know EXACTLY why you don't want to wait? It sounds like he'll abide by your wishes if he understands what you are going through........

I know you guys will be moving soon, but I LOOOOOOVE my Ob-Dr Gerber....do you want her number? You could go talk to her and see what she says? Maybe there is no need to worry....and if there is, maybe she'll recommend a course of action?

I think i'm going to start trying to take my temps at the same time every day.... these three weeks, i hardly took it at the same time 2 days in a row and had a lot of days with less than 3 hours of uninterrrupted sleep-i wonder if that's the reason it's not showing O or if I didn't O yet..... hmmmmmmmm I'm a little surprised there is no option to check on there that you are still BF...surely they would want to take that into consideration when looking at your patterns?

Melissa, did they say anything to you about when to expect AF if she comes? I am going to be so busy cause I am hosting Easter this year, and would hate to miss an announcement :awink:

I think i'm going to start trying to take my temps at the same time every day.... these three weeks, i hardly took it at the same time 2 days in a row and had a lot of days with less than 3 hours of uninterrrupted sleep-i wonder if that's the reason it's not showing O or if I didn't O yet..... hmmmmmmmm I'm a little surprised there is no option to check on there that you are still BF...surely they would want to take that into consideration when looking at your patterns?

Hmm...I took a peek at your chart, and it is hard to say. It looks like maybe you did on CD15 or CD17, but your temps from CD14 to CD19 were all taken at different times. Those days are critical...Are you taking your CM too? Sometimes if I don't track CM and forget a temp (or take at a different time) mid-month then FF doesn't pick up my O.

Or maybe I'm not O'ing either? Who knows? Last month I had to override FF with my O date based on when I got AF. I know my LP is always 14 days, so I just backtracked...FF had me down for an O date of like CD19, and I think it was more like CD14.

Melissa, I know you probably have a week or so to go, but I wanted you to know I am :pray: for you!

Melissa, did they say anything to you about when to expect AF if she comes? I am going to be so busy cause I am hosting Easter this year, and would hate to miss an announcement :awink:

I don't plan on doing any testing until Wednesday at the very earliest so you won't miss anything. I may even wait until next weekend if af hasn't showed.. Just because I don't want a false positive. Unless it's the announcement of af....heck I want to miss that one. :giggle:

Melissa, I know you probably have a week or so to go, but I wanted you to know I am :pray: for you!

Thanks a million!! Did you want me to take you off the list? I can leave you on there if ya want. It's up to you.

Hmm...I took a peek at your chart, and it is hard to say. It looks like maybe you did on CD15 or CD17, but your temps from CD14 to CD19 were all taken at different times. Those days are critical...Are you taking your CM too? I am not great with determining with CMis which... i KNOW that last month (can't remember when since i wasn't charting) i had a TON of eggwhite CM... it was very stretchy and whitish... right now, it's very watery and there isn't a lot of it?
pretty much all my temps have been taken at different times of the morning, hence the confusion, quite possibly...

:phew: You know how I don't like missing anything! :giggle:

:hug99: Well I am sending you NO AF VIBES and I will try to check in on you anyway over the next 4 days or so.

:hug99:

Thanks Deb!! I really appreciate it! Hopefully I will be joining you in the pg group verra soon!!

April 5th

Cycle Buddies
Kika CD6 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD9
Jackie CD14 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD14 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD21 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD22 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD23 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD27 11DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD28 13DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

I overrode what FF was saying as my O date. My temps are looking more like 11DPO than 9 any way. They are dropping so unless it's implantation and a miracle af is on her way. :sigh:

I'm sorry Melissa!
I'm feeling like I might O soon but ya never know. I thought I was getting ready to O last cycle but I never did. It's been a crazy week at work so we haven't been very "active" even though Tom's in Baltimore. Poor Tom! :lol:

Amanda

Melissa, I hope it's implantation dip!

Amanda, go pacify your husband :lol: !

Haydee, how's it going, girl? You are super quiet, we want to know how you are doing :)

April 6th

Cycle Buddies
Kika CD7 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD10
Jackie CD15 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD15 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD22 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD23 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD24 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD28 12DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD29 14DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

Melissa.... :popcorn: it's going triphasic on you!

Melissa.... :popcorn: it's going triphasic on you!

:scratch:It is?? How? I don't understand triphasic..:scan:

well, maybe I'm wrong, I don't really understand how it works, just looks like it dipped down twice now...... maybe somebody else can take a look at it .... but either way, the temps are staying up!! I sure hope that's an implantation dip!

Tab's chart looks great, too..... usually her temp dips on DPO14 and now it's up!

Hey Melissa. Your chart isn't triphasic yet. Triphasic is when there are 3 distinct levels of temps - before O, after O, and then a 3rd level that's higher than your post-O temps.

Glad your temp is back up. Good luck!

Oh. :doh:

:lol:

:lol: I was going to say, Lena is on drugs again! To put it simply triphasic looks like steps going up, it just keeps getting higher, I had a classic triphasic chart with Aiden, it could have been used in a text book :lol: But didn't with Riley so was shocked I got a positive with him.

Melissa, it was a good sign to see it head back up again instead of under the base line :aok: Good luck sweetie :hug99:

Amanda, get some lovin in before he leaves Sunday, you can do it! :lol2:

:lol: I was going to say, Lena is on drugs again!
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! You weren't supposed to tell!

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! You weren't supposed to tell!

:lol2: It's not like it's a big secret! We all know!! :ok:

alright. fine. be mean to me. :snob: but i'm *not* giving up my crack pipe this time. so don't even ask. k? k.

Gee, what a bogart! :giggle:

HMPH :snob:


:lol2:
(are we having too much fun???)

:secret:

http://i19.tinypic.com/2zhjj8l.jpg

Very cute Rachel!

I'm here. It's been a horrible week. I got home after 11pm on 2 different nights. Sucks. Still waiting for O. Having lots of CM so maybe that's a good sign.

Amanda

:love1: Rach.

Rachel, Jack is too cute!!

April 7th

Cycle Buddies
Tabitha CD2 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD8 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD11
Jackie CD16 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD16 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD23 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD24 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD25 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD29 13DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

Jack is so cute!! What a doll!

Well AF should be showing up...but doesn't really feel like it. :shuffle: Hmmmm.....Won't be testing until at least Wednesday day just in case I didn't O when I think I O'd...plus I promised Deb that she wouldn't miss anything. :giggle:

Lena: You are such a bogart with that pipe. After all those times I shared with you.:snob:

Alright. In the name of Easter coming up and you being allstrong and non-testing for a few days, I'm sharing my pipe with you... better yet, take it away from me altogether, makes me :screwy:

:lol2: (see, i used it one too many times)

Very cute Rachel!

I'm here. It's been a horrible week. I got home after 11pm on 2 different nights. Sucks. Still waiting for O. Having lots of CM so maybe that's a good sign.

Amanda

I hope you are about to O. And I hope you get home earlier so you can have :sex:at a decent hour. :lol:

Jack is so cute!! What a doll!

Well AF should be showing up...but doesn't really feel like it. :shuffle: Hmmmm.....Won't be testing until at least Wednesday day just in case I didn't O when I think I O'd...plus I promised Deb that she wouldn't miss anything. :giggle:

Lena: You are such a bogart with that pipe. After all those times I shared with you.:snob:

Happy to hear no AF symptoms!

Lena, I was about to ask to borrow your pipe. Between this migraine I have had forever, this intense shoulder pain, and my laptop not working, damn...I needed it!

I can't help but feel like these aches and pains are weight related :shuffle:. I need to get these extra 20 lbs off before I get pg and add another 35lbs to 40lbs.

Anyway, the Dell tech fixed everything. I could have kissed him I was so happy.

Fingers crossed Melissa.
I could use the pipe, too. :lol: What a week! And I'm on call all weekend...

Amanda

Let's all sit in the circle and pass the pipe around. :giggle:

Kika, i hope you are feeling better now!!! I was hoping you and Kahlia and Kareem (is DF in town?) would stop by today, but figured you were busy since you didn't text me... glad the puter is fixed.

No Lena, darling (yeah, right :giggle: ) ex-husband is in town...so he had Kareem and Khalila for the weekend...I actually forgot he was coming :shuffle:

But with all the pain, it was kinda a relief to not have the kids to worry about...

thanks girls I think he is rather cute too :love:

I just gotta share this :bliss: I'm going to be a aunty again my sister has 3 boys 8,3,19mths and is due in Dec but willhave bub late nov c-sect am thinkin g pink thoughts but seriously as long as healthy I wont mind another nephew :bliss:

also I think my cd is off on the list I am cd28 on the 9th if that helps :)

:lol: Melissa: Okay, you are keeping this promise to me way too well! where is today's temps. I finally get online after total chaos all weekend to check on you and I can sit here and obsess over your chart. I hope AF has stayed away! :hug99:

Hope you are feeling better, Kika.

Amanda, I hope you got BD in before Tom turned into a total ass.

Rach: congrats on your sis. That's awesome news!

April 8th

Cycle Buddies
Tabitha CD3 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD9 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD12
Jackie CD17 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD17 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD24 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD25 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD26 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD30 14DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

April 9th

Cycle Buddies
Tabitha CD4 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD10 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD13
Jackie CD18 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD18 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD25 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD26 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD30 10DPO Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Melissa CD31 15DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

Congrats Rach..I have also updated your numbers. :scratch: I am not sure what happened. Anywho....

I have updated my chart. I am sorry Deb. I didn't get a chance to jump on yesterday with all the crazy Easter festivities and going to church and what not. AF is on her way. Temps have dropped and I am cramping like crazy. I may stop with all the craziness of Clomid and charting and just throw caution to the wind and start enjoying love making with my husband. All this obession about making a baby is really wearing on me and I am about at my breaking point. I am gonna think on it..but I probably will do just that. I will still chart enough to find out where I am in my cycle..but I have to ease up and relax. It's become all consuming and that just is not a healthy way to bring a child into this world...at least not for me. I live, eat and breath making a baby. That can't be healthy for anyone. So I am off to ponder these thoughts. Talk them over with my husband and of course wait for your thoughts on it. I need to enjoy my husband and right now that just isn't happening. Not sure if this is making sense..but it does in my head. Off to never never land...

:hug99: Melissa, It makes perfect sense. I can understand how hard this must all be and it is important to be happy. This can stress someone so much to the point of not being happy and you deserve that :hug99:

I'm sorry that AF is coming Melissa. I totally understand stopping the insanity and returning to normal life. I'm thinking of doing the same. All of this temping is making me crazy!

Amanda

Melissa, I'm sorry AF is on her way :hug99: I was really hoping for you, and checking your chart all weekend long, too. I think that a break would be very healthy for your emotions. It's been a very long road for you and you are bound to feel like you do now at some point. taking a break won't do anything but good for you now... Reconnecting with your husband, revisiting your other goals and dreams and rediscovering Melissa again might be very refreshing. I know it's easier said than done when you want a BFP so bad, but like you said, might be good for your sanity...... have you thought about not charting at all for a couple of months, maybe?
:hug99: x100

Melissa, I am so sorry.

What you are sayhing makes perfect sense. You should be able to enjoy your husband and your lovemaking...you should enjoy each other. And I am sure you do on some level, but when it feels like a "mission" or a goal to be accomplished, it is probably enjoyed to a lesser extent.

I know it must be hard. Charting is hard ...because even when you are not BDing, you have to get up every morning and record a number...A number that is a constant reminder of the baby thing...Who needs to think about it everyday?

For me, the temp represents so much more than a temperature...I almost feel like that number reflects how much of a woman I am, bizarre as that sounds...I get caught up on whether I'm Oing or not, or if at the proper time, or if the temp seems high enough, etc....It's easy to get wrapped up in the numbers and analyze too much...And to obsess...and it isn't shouldn't be this way... I really feel you hon...

I agree, forget the charting for now. Have sex like teenagers.

I hate to pry, but I want more options out there for you...Clomid and charting...is that the end of the medical advice that is available? You seem to ovulate, and you can conceive, isn't there something else that can be done? I know that your chances to get pg may be every other month, but still...Can we research something else? I am sorry if I am asking too much, I just hate to see you sad.

:hug99: don't you dare apologise to me, I was joking! :heee: I am here for you no matter what. You need to do what is right for you and not care what anyone else says or thinks.

I know your dream will be achieved. I can just feel it. I am surprised that even though your temps have dropped you are on 15 dpo anyway with no AF! I am still holding out slight hope for you :hug99:

Hey dear friends!!! For the first time in my life I couldn't wait to get back to work!!! To chat to you guys, to search the internet (to calm all my m/c fears - or increase them depending on what I read!!!).

Quick update: we had a lovely holiday (I got a bfp, so it had to be great!). The weather wasn't that great and we actually came home one day earlier. Both hubby and I couldn't wait to get back home to get to the doc so she could tell my yes I'm really pg. I called the doc's office and they said I should go for bloodtests with the count, so I did that last week Thursday. They will call me during the week to set up an appointment. We told dd, my folks and my in-laws that I'm pregnant. For the rest I'm waiting for my first appointment to announce it to the rest of the world. I will join Deb and the rest on the pg forum with my updates - so please visit me there too!! The only pg update I have now is that I sometimes wonder whether I'm really pregnant! Not a lot of symptoms yet - only lots of visits to the loo, tender breasts and a hell of an appetite. But that's it.

Thanks so much for all your wishes and support. :grouphugg

It is so comforting to know there are people who care and who will be able to help me get through all the questions of a first pregnancy!! You're totally the best!!

Great to have you back :aok:

I am so glad that things are rolling along. Not feeling pregnat is extremely common and I guess is a great thing until the MS kicks in :giggle:

See you over in the PG group :hug99:

Kika: Good luck with your situation. It must be really difficult trying to find a middle way that will suit you both. But if your fiancee is 100% with you on TTC after 6 months, then maybe you should use this time to sort out your fertility issues, read up on various options, see specialists etc. I did a lot of self education when we started TTC and I'm so glad for that now that I'm preggies.

Amanda: I'm dying to know whether the vitex did anything for you?

Melis: I was SOOO praying that you would join me! Still keeping you in my prayers. What you said about relaxing and enjoying makes a lot of sense. I know that my 2c worth being pg and not taking 2 yrs to conceive doesn't count that much, but this last cycle of mine when I got the bfp, I decided to just chill. We didn't bd everyday for 5 days in a row and in the 2ww I didn't look for any symptoms. And I'm a "the more bd the better" person. Chucking the thermo was a good thing! I'm not saying that chilling will make you conceive, but I knew that if af came round this cycle it would be more bearable.

PS: while on holiday, two days before af was due, I got a text message from a friend that she is pregnant! I cried myself to sleep that night, not knowing that I was pregnant too!

Well AF is here and in full swing. She is in such a pissy mood she brought AF along with her for my friend. :lol: I am ok with it as I now have a plan. I am chucking the thermo, the chart, the clomid...all of it. I am going to enjoy my husband and we are going to concieve a beautiful child out of love. I am still going to be in here cheering you guys on and obsessing over your charts..I just won't be charting myself. At least I don't think so. I think I have learned enough over the years to just keep in on a calendar as to when I start and just go from there. ;)

Haydee I am soo happy for you!!! I can't wait to see a picture of you with a beautiful swollen belly.

You guys are the best and I love you all!! :grouphugg

April 10th

Cycle Buddies
Melissa CD2 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Tabitha CD5 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Kika CD11 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD14
Jackie CD19 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD19 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD26 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD27 5DPO Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD31 11DPO Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Haydee :bfp: Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :woo: Congratulations!! Our first graduate!!

Sorry about af Melis. I'm sure taking some time out will at least ease up on the emotional stress. I will keep praying for that bfp for you!

I read in Acts yesterday where the disciples asked Jesus whether this is the time that he's going to restore the Jewish nation after rising from the dead, and he answered, don't worry about the time. "Timing is the Father's business" - (quoted from The Message). And I thought - how true is that. No matter what we do, God's timing is God's timing. Nothing can stop it and nothing can hurry it along.

Thinking of you!

Melissa.........:hug99:

Sorry about af Melis. I'm sure taking some time out will at least ease up on the emotional stress. I will keep praying for that bfp for you!

I read in Acts yesterday where the disciples asked Jesus whether this is the time that he's going to restore the Jewish nation after rising from the dead, and he answered, don't worry about the time. "Timing is the Father's business" - (quoted from The Message). And I thought - how true is that. No matter what we do, God's timing is God's timing. Nothing can stop it and nothing can hurry it along.

Thinking of you!

Thank you so much Haydee!! :hug99:

Thanks Lena:hug99:

Looks like we both had the same thing in mind Melissa. I already got rid of my thermometer 2nd day in to this cycle! We are actually just "relaxing and taking a break" if it happens it happens but honestly I am tired of constantly trying, charting, and taking baby asprin. Oh yeah, even chucked them as well. I'm tired of doing the 8 day sexathon! Just plain tired!!! I was stressed out this last cycle!!!! I had a few PG symptoms and was even getting my hopes up since I hardly EVER make it to CD29 norm is CD26/27. Needless to say when AF arrived Saturday I was truely bummed out. 3 years is long enough! I've considered going on Clomid but I'm not ready for that yet, my other friend keeps telling me to go on the pill because I will end up PG quick as shit but eh I'm not buying that one!

So as of right now, we are being OTL and just relaxing and enjoying each other again! God knows what he is doing so when he feels the time is right then we will be blessed again and hopefully with a sticky baby this time!

Thanks for posting that scripture, Haydee :hug99:

:hug99: Melissa. I am sorry she had to turn up, she can be a true bitch sometimes! I am glad you are at peace with your decision, I hope that you get a pleasent surprise out of it!

Tabitha: I think that it will do you good as well to take a break from the insanity, it's amazing what our bodies do when we don't put so much pressure on them. (even though I know how damn hard it is as I was obsessed as well when trying for Aiden)

Sorry about AF Melissa...I am glad to hear you are at peace. Everyone's tossing their thermometer...You guys are such rebels!

Haydee, your post reminded me of a Muslim saying...My dad says it all the time, and it is so true. "We make a plan, and God makes a plan, but God is the best planner."

I need to keep this is mind.

April 11th

Cycle Buddies
Melissa CD3 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Kika CD12 Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Jolene CD15
Jackie CD20 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Jayne CD20 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Amanda CD27 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Lena CD28 6DPO Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Rachel CD32 12DPO Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)

As for me, we've decided to take a LONG break! I am just so over extended in TTC that it's getting to me really bad! I've gained weight since the beginning of the year (10 extra lbs) and it won't leave me so when I get my water gain and bloatedness when AF comes to town thats another 10 lbs but at least that always leaves and I know I am depressed so I am throwing in the towel and just relaxing and working on me now. If we end up PG fine but I need to lose weight and regain some sanity for awhile.

Can you please remove me from the list, Thank you :)

Delurking..... :heee:

Tab, that's exactly where we (I) are right now too. :hug99: It's a gratifying and safe place to be right now. :) When AF arrives, it's only a small disappointment because I don't really care anymore (well....as much). Sure, I'd LOVE to be pg again....but I have other issues to work on and I have a bunch of weight to lose and I'm just focusing on me for now. It's nice! :)

When the time is right and the little sister that Alex talks about constantly ( :rolleyes: ) decides to join our family, we'll be ready. :aok: It truly sucks ass when doing something that should be joyful, like TTC a new family addition, becomes tiresome and emotionally draining.

:grouphugg Hugs everybody. We need them...

As for me, I didn't O yesterday like I thought I would. No EWCM whatsoever the last few days. Today I went in absolute search of it and found a little, but I took an OPK test (I know, would have been smarter to do that 2 days ago, but I really thought yesterday was my O day), and the test was neg.

So I'm either O'ing today or :scratch:. We'll see. My cycle keeps throwing me for a loop. Days keep moving around. So annoying when I am trying to arrange travel plans to get my egg near a swimmer at the right time. I'll be glad once we are under one roof. A regular period would be nice too.

DF is back on board with TTC now. So, I have a question. I am seriously considering taking my gyn's advice and seeing an RE. There's enough family history and my cycles are so erratic now...seems like I could save myself some frustration and possible disappointment by seeing a specialist. But they are also $$$. Would it be worth it to see an RE now, or should I wait? Even under a doctor's care, we would not always be able to time O and BDing because of the distance. However, I know the first few visits consist of testing, which may offer some insight into what my future plans should be. I am trying to weigh costs versus opportunity and time.

We certainly have not being trying for 6 months, which was my gyno's original advice. However, after the 2nd FSH test, she told me that it may prove beneficial to not wait the 6 months...she didn't really elaborate why.

I know some of you have sought out the assistance of a RE. Aside from testing, it is helpful to see one when I know every month I will not be able to time ttc and Oing?

Delurking..... :heee:

Tab, that's exactly where we (I) are right now too. :hug99: It's a gratifying and safe place to be right now. :) When AF arrives, it's only a small disappointment because I don't really care anymore (well....as much). Sure, I'd LOVE to be pg again....but I have other issues to work on and I have a bunch of weight to lose and I'm just focusing on me for now. It's nice! :)

When the time is right and the little sister that Alex talks about constantly ( :rolleyes: ) decides to join our family, we'll be ready. :aok: It truly sucks ass when doing something that should be joyful, like TTC a new family addition, becomes tiresome and emotionally draining.
:hug99:

Well AF is here and in full swing. She is in such a pissy mood she brought AF along with her for my friend. :lol: I am ok with it as I now have a plan. I am chucking the thermo, the chart, the clomid...all of it. I am going to enjoy my husband and we are going to concieve a beautiful child out of love. I am still going to be in here cheering you guys on and obsessing over your charts..I just won't be charting myself. At least I don't think so. I think I have learned enough over the years to just keep in on a calendar as to when I start and just go from there. ;)

Haydee I am soo happy for you!!! I can't wait to see a picture of you with a beautiful swollen belly.

You guys are the best and I love you all!! :grouphugg

are you still using the monitor though:secret:

I am going to use the monitor just to keep track of when I actually ovulate.

Add me as another one who is chucking the thermometer. I don't seem to be Oing on my own and when I go back to the RE, I won't need to temp. Enough is enough! I have too much other stress in my life to add the stress of seeing my temperature not go up. We'll continue to be OTL but I just not making that my priority right now. Sometime this summer we'll pay a visit to my RE and start me on meds that work for me.

Amanda

Hey ladies! Well, pregnancy was fun and excited while it lasted.



I had a m/c early this morning. I’m booked off from work till Monday and since I don’t have internet access at home, I decided to find an internet café to let you know. It’s very therapeutic for me to write down my feelings and this is part of the healing process.



On Tuesday afternoon I got an appointment with our GP for a first pregnancy visit. The whole day Tuesday I had been wondering whether or not to stick with my obgyn or move to the GP with the pregnancy. The obgyn is just never available or reachable at the office. So Tuesday I told DH that I have this gut feeling that I need a doctor who will be available if there are any complications. So I got an appointment for that same afternoon with the GP and decided to stick with her. The first set of blood tests that I did came back normal and the GP told me that I’m in my 7th week with due date 4 December. She gave me her mobile number and her house number and told me to call her anytime when something doesn’t seem right. That was such a relieve and I knew that I was going to be happy with her handling my pregnancy.



Then Tuesday evening, six hours after we spoke to the GP, I started having a brownish discharge. Early Wednesday morning I called her at home and she told me to come and see her first thing that morning. When I got to her office, she pushed me in before all her other appointments and told me that it could be one of two things. It could be my progesterone levels that are too low. If that was the case it wouldn’t be a problem, she would be able to sustain the pregnancy with additional hormone therapy. The next option could be my HCG levels. If that was too low, then it means there is a fetal abnormality and there was nothing that they could do about it. So she sent me for blood tests immediately. She booked me off for the rest of the week and told me to go home and try to relax. She gave me progesterone to take in the meantime while we wait for the test results.



Three hours later she called me at home. My progesterone levels were way too low and she told me to immediately take more progesterone. She said the discharge was definitely related to my progesterone, but that she wasn’t happy with my HCG levels either. She said it was lower than it should be for 7 weeks, but not low enough for serious concern yet. She said it was touch and go and that by Friday I should go back for another set of blood tests. She said that my HCG levels were high enough to give this pregnancy a go with the progesterone supplements, but that it wasn’t normal. Then she told me to call her anytime I need to or when there are complications like cramping or bleeding.



I didn’t have much hope at that stage. I just had this gut feeling when I first saw the discharge that this was the beginning of the end. So yesterday I cried my heart out and prayed a lot and released my baby to the Lord. I just opened my Bible and started to read. It was the last chapter of Job and the first thing I read was that God blessed Job much more abundantly after he’d lost everything. That was when I knew for sure that this baby wasn’t meant to be and although I was very sad, I had a calmness and peace about it in my heart.



There was no sign of bleeding or cramping yesterday but at 4 am this morning I started to bleed heavily with severe cramping. I called the doctor at around 7am and she confirmed that this is a m/c. I’m going to see her tomorrow again. She said that I’m early in my pregnancy, so everything should come off with the m/c.



I have cried out every tear in my body, but I have great peace about it. I feel better about this m/c than what I felt with every af showing up! I said to DH that from the moment we found out I’m pregnant, God was with us. He gave us the promise of life on the anniversary of death and that promise still stands, it’s just not meant for this baby. The fact that I had this gut feeling about getting a doctor that is available was also from God, ‘cause it just made this whole ordeal a lot easier to cope with – to have a professional around that could at least tell you what was going on with your body. It is the uncertainty that drives you nuts.



So in all the pain and heartache I still want to praise God, ‘cause now I know that I can get pregnant! I still have a lot of hope despite the m/c. And now I also know that hpt’s do work!!



I will be back again on Monday…

:sadhug: Oh my god Haydee! I am so sorry sweetheart. I wish I could give you this hug in person.

We are hear for you if you need us.

Oh Haydee. I hate that you have had to deal with a m/c. You sound at peace. I will pray that God keeps that peace over you and your dh. :hug99: We are here if you need anything. I am so sorry.