wow, Shannon... that's interesting! Well, you know, Melissa's Kenny ( or was it Nicholas?) told her she was going to have a baby girl before Melissa knew she was pregnant...and what do you know, she is having a girl.............. so ya never know :awink:

I don't know if Tabitha is still a member here but she just announced that after 3 1/2 years of trying she got a :bfp: today!!!!

Congrats, Tabitha :bliss: !!!!! How very, very exciting!!! :pray: for a sticky baby and wishing you a happy and healthy 9 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:congrats:

:woo: Tab!!! I was thinking about her last week and wondering if she'd seen her elusive BFP yet. :)

Congratulations to Tabitha!!!

Shannon, I am going to go with Alex and say he is RIGHT!!!!! :roseglass

Great news for Tabitha!
Fingers crossed Shannon. I hope Alex is right.

Amanda

Aww, how sweet of Alex! I hope that he is right! :hug99:

Congratulations Tabitha!

Fingers crossed for you Shannon :crossfing.

Good luck Lena!

And Amanda......:bliss:.....July 3rd is finally here! Good luck!

It's official - I'm getting my hopes up. :heee: I've had heartburn today like I haven't had since I was pg with Alex - horrible and for no good reason (no acid foods, no excessive amounts). Plus, I took a nap this afternoon. :)

If AF stays away tomorrow, I'll go ahead and test Wed morning. :)

Oh, and Alex says the baby girl in my tummy is just getting bigger and bigger right now. :woot: :lol:

:bliss: Shannon!!

July 3rd

Cycle Buddies
Kimmy CD4 Kimmy's (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1ab1f8) Chart
Amy CD6
Amanda CD10 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Haydee CD16 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Kika CD17 5DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Rachel CD18 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Lena CD18 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Melissa CD27 10DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Shannon CD31
Jackie CD35 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Alyson CD41

:yippee: Today is July 3rd!! Good luck today Amanda!!!!!

Fingers crossed Shannon!!!!

Thanks for the good thoughts. I'll post after my appt.

Amanda

Good luck, Amanda!!!!

GOOD LUCK, AMANDA!! :hug99:

Shannon, my fingers are crossed that this is IT for you. I want you to test now :giggle: Are we all going to start the peer pressure or not? :lol2:

Yeah we may as well!!! Come on Shannon POAS already lady!!! Come on!!! You know you want to!!! All the kool kids are doing it!!

Amanda: :tapfoot: Your appointment has to be over with by now..it's 8pm for goodness sakes!! You said you would update after the appointment...you lied. :giggle:

You guys are evil!! :devil: :giggle:

I don't know.....I'm starting to waver now. :shuffle: I haven't had the hb today....but my tummy is still off. That could mean anything, right?
I also went through my cycle lengths over the past few months. Jan was 38 days, and the next 4 months following were 30, 32, 30, and 32. Tomorrow will be CD32. I've been wiping my cervix every time I go potty, just to see if anything shows up. So far, so good.

So....I'm remaining firm in my resolve to wait until tomorrow morning at the earliest to test. :) I'm going to evaluate tonight and the morning very closely and if there's ANY sign of AF, the testing will be off. :lol: It's not that I don't want to know, I just don't want to throw the $5 for the test in the garbage and seen a BFN to boot.

Some kind of rebel you are. :rolleyes: You know the dollar store has tests!!!

Exactly! Dollar Store! POAS!!!! Now :giggle: ! we all are just dying to know!!

Boy, the peer pressure is rough in this camp!

I'm gonna lay low...:giggle:

Amanda, :tapfoot:

Hoping that things are still looking good for ya, Shannon! :crossfing

:scan:

YEAH for Tabitha!!! If you're lurking somewhere... I pray that this is THE ONE!!

Alyson: what's up girl??? Can't just leave us all out in Wonderland!!

Shannon, I SO hope this is it!! So just go on and POAS!!! You know you want to...

If you charted, it would've been easier, 'cause then I could just read your chart for you. Now I just have to read your chart by "what is NOT there". So here goes:

The fact that you know which CD you're on suggests that you are a very meticulous person and very organised (it is also indictive of getting af 31/32 days ago - for fear of not stating the obvious). However, the lack of temping suggests inner conflict between the perfectionist in you and the wild animal in you that just wants you to let go! The fact that you don't want to give in to peer pressure (YET) to POAS, is a clear sign that you don't need to go to the loo (YET). However, by sharing your deepest intimitate thoughts about POAS, is in actual fact a desperate cry from your heart to forum members to turn up the heat and the pressure to coerce you into POAS.

So the conclusion: POAS!!!

POAS!!!

POAS!!!

POAS!!!

POAS!!

PS: is it working???

Amanda: we've been anxiously waiting for 6 months for this RE appointment and now there's no news...talk about torture..

Quick update from me. Hubby and I are going away tomorrow till Sunday for a short break away. Timing seems perfect as I suspect I'll be O'ing Friday or Saturday. We're just gonna drown that eggie with swimmers!!

Oh yeah, I'm busy making curtains for different rooms in the house. I don't like sewing that much, but I luuvv the end results. Especially since I can't seem to get the stuff I want, ready-made in the shops. So it keeps me out of mischief (like calling dh 100 times at work, sending him suggestive text messages to get him to fake illness and come home!), and it makes my house looks nice. If i remember, I'll do the before and after thing and show you girls some pics...

Praying for your sister Haydee!

I had my RE appt yesterday. Everything's good. They did a blood pregnancy test to be sure I'm not pregnant (we all know I'm not but they have to be sure) and then I can start provera to bring on AF. He also did a pap and took cultures. Once AF comes, I'm good to go!!!! We're going to do injectibles with IUI for 2 cycles and then move on to IVF if necessary. I'll be taking menopur because that's what I took when I got pregnant with Jessica. We're going to take a pretty conservative approach because I have unpredictable responses to the meds. One cycle I'll make one follicle and the next cycle I'll make 20.

Amanda

Boy, the peer pressure is rough in this camp!

I'm gonna lay low...:giggle:



Hey you join our camp you deal with the peer pressure!!!
It's our motto..
AF late? POAS! Think your pg? POAS! Got nothing better to do and want to be part of the "in" crowd? POAS!

:secret:Oh and PS no matter how low you lay...we will always find you.:giggle:

July 4th

Cycle Buddies
Kimmy CD5 Kimmy's (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1ab1f8) Chart
Amy CD7
Amanda CD11 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Haydee CD17 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Kika CD15 3DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Rachel CD19 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Lena CD19 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Melissa CD28 11DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Shannon CD32
Jackie CD36 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Alyson CD42

I love you chart intepretations Haydee!! I can't wait until it's time to interpret mine!!!:yippee:

Amanda: Without really understanding all the IVF lingo it sounds like it was a good appointment. Hopefully you will be pg by the end of summer!! Do the meds mess with your mood??

Alyson:I agree it's not nice to keep us hanging like that. You know what we do to those who bail without giving the proper information!! :giggle: :secret: We hang you upside down by your toes and tickle you till you pee!:giggle: Seriously...what's going on with you girl??

Haydee: I hope you and dh catch that eggie this weekend. I am on vacation as well although it's pass the time to catch anything worthwhile I can at least practice.:giggle:

As for me and my weird body...AF should be coming Saturday I think. I really hope not cause I have a re-pap on the 10th and if AF shows then I have to reschedule my appt and I hate doing that. This will be the first time going back since makinig the decision to go off clomid. I wonder what he is going to say to me. I know that I am going to tell him of the conversation between me and Dr Bitch. I just don't know what I am going to do if he suggests going back on Clomid. I mean I was on it for 6 months...something should have happened by then right?? In my mind nothing happened because it's not in His plans so who am I to mess with it??? Not to mention that right now financially it doesn't make sense to get pg..Oh crap what do I know? I am a hormonal almost 35 year old who wants a baby. Any ideas, interpretations..comments? Anything at this point would be great!!

You guys are just nuts. Nuts! :lol2:

You know what Melissa? My last RE said a lot of women (I think she said 60%-70%) don't respond to Clomid. She said it was a popular drug, but not all that successful. And, apparently, there are other stimulating drugs out there. In fact, that last RE was going to skip Clomid altogether...I wish I could remember the name of the drug she said she would try first :shuffle:.

Maybe ask the doctor if there are other drugs you can try.

Right now I am just timing sex and temping just enough to figure out O date (since mine moves around from CD11 to CD14, trying to make me miss it on purpose). And of course I temp when I'm bored, too. I'm going to hold off with medicinal intervention until January. Per DF. Hopefully it won't happen right away in January since both of our birthdays and half of my family is born in October. My sister even had a baby on my birthday! Suffice to say we don't need any more Libras in my family...

Amanda: good luck! BTW, what is the limit on follicles before they decide to cancel the IUI? 5 or 6, or less?

Haydee..... :lol:

Well....you guys are going to throw sharp things at me.... :blush:

I had a dream last night that I took 2 pg tests.....they were both neg.....and then I started spotting as I was getting ready to take the 3rd. In the past, when I've had a dream that I got AF....or started bleeding....it's been true. So, I'm going to give it some more time. :heee: If AF isn't here by the weekend, I'll re-evaluate.

Shannon, I completely understand...I hate seeing BFNs too, and will avoid looking at one at all costs. But isn't weird dreams a sign of pg?

Okay, I must be PMSing. Early to boot. As you guys know, my kids are still in Chicago in day camp at U of Chicago...and I miss them immensely...especially on days like today (summer holidays). Anyhoo, I sent my son (Kareem, almost twelve) a myspace message yesterday saying that I couldn't leave him a comment. He wrote me back this morning stating, "i know my layout is like that... it sucks but u are still number 1"

I am ready to bawl. Sigh. I miss them so much. And I guess you have to know my son...He is such a sweet, gentle, sensitive soul.

Shannon you suck!! Even though I completely understand your point...I need to live through someone else right now!!! I just can't believe you are going to make us wait until this weekend..that's a whole 3 days away and that is only until Saturday. Knowing you we will have to wait until Monday morning when the weekend is over and AF hasn't shown:blahblah: Man!Where is a smilie throwing a temper tantrum when you need one?? :lol:.



Kika your son sounds like a sweet heart! That would get any mom :bawl: PMS or not.

Melissa.....you mean this one? :tantrum: :giggle:

Sorry..... :bolt:

Melissa - I hope AF doesn't mess up your pap. In fact I hope AF doesn't come at all!!! The meds mess me up a bit but usually not too bad. I'm being much more mellow than usual about my upcoming cycle. If my cycle isn't going well (medically, I mean), I'll get moody. Otherwise I should be ok.
Kika - Your son is a sweetie!!! Libras rock, girl! What's your problem with libras?!?!? I personally wouldn't do a cycle with 5-6 follicles. I'm not willing to take the risk of that many multiples. I know that I'm reasonably fertile when I make eggs (it's making eggs that's a problem for me). I'm determined to NOT get pregnant with anything more than twins. Three follicles is probably my limit or I'll cancel the cycle myself. I would rather wait another cycle or two than jeopardize my health and the life of multiple babies. Plus, I already have kids who need a mommy.
Shannon - I hope your dream was wrong and Alex was right. Nathaniel keeps talking about his brother recently. Maybe he's psychic, too!

Amanda

And I guess you have to know my son...He is such a sweet, gentle, sensitive soul. completely agreeing.... :nod:

:hug99: sorry it's so hard to be away from them................ :hug99:

Yes Shannon..that one!! :tantrum: NOW POAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't make me get all PMSY on your ass!!! :giggle:

Amanda, no problem with Libras at all. I am one, and so is Rich.

But 4 of the 8 children (between my sisters and I) are already libras. I guess I just don't want to add to such an already crowded birthday time.

Melissa... :lol:

Lena I'll do it..heck I've been going all PMSY on my dh and ds all day long. I won't hesitate to go off on Shannon! :giggle:

C'mon Melissa... :catfight: You come knock on my door and we'll have a little chat..... :giggle:

Amanda, no problem with Libras at all. I am one, and so is Rich.

But 4 of the 8 children (between my sisters and I) are already libras. I guess I just don't want to add to such an already crowded birthday time.

I'm from a family of libras, too!

Amanda

:giggle:Ok Shannon..I'll do that..:handbags:

July 5th

Cycle Buddies
Kimmy CD6 Kimmy's (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1ab1f8) Chart
Amy CD8
Amanda CD12 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Haydee CD18 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Kika CD19 7DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Rachel CD20 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Lena CD20 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Melissa CD29 12DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Shannon CD33
Jackie CD37 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Alyson CD43

Kika what are you doing to your chart??? It keeps changing by 3 days. You have me confused! Are you pretending to be Lena???:giggle:

Okay......just so Melissa won't have to spend ALL that money on a x-country plane ride....leave her family....etc., etc.


I POAS this morning. :heee: Here's a pic of the result -

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7d924b3127cce86f7ec0a603600000026108AZNGjlk2cNY

There is another line there, it's just REALLY faint. If I adjust the screen angle on my laptop, I can see it in the pic. :giggle: Can anyone here see it?


Anyhoo.....I know....a line is a line. However. I'm still not going to be convinced until it's just as dark as the control line. :snob: I'll buy some more tests today and we'll have another go at it later.

In any case, it's a pretty exciting thought!!! :bliss: Wish me luck that I'm not seeing things that I just want to see and letting my desires cloud my reality.

I can see it! Congratulations, Shannon! :woo:

I see it I see it
:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

CONGRATS!!!!!

Are you pretending to be Lena???:giggle:

:handbags:

HOLY MOLY, Woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I TOTALLY see it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss:
CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess you won't have to do the big U/S, we already know it's a girl :giggle:

How exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:handbags:

It was totally meant out of love!!! No harsh feelings kay?

Yeah she POAS and I see 2 lines!!!:bliss:
Congratulations!!

Thank you for saving me all that money!!

:woo: Shannon!

It was totally meant out of love!!! No harsh feelings kay? you are such a goofball! OF COURSE i know that...I was just messin' with you!! Is there a slap on the head smilie?

:giggle:
SMOOCH! :akiss:

You mean this one:slap:

YEAH! that one..... :slap: to you! :lol2:

Thanks guys!!! :hug99:

I took the test with me to work today to show my manager, and the second line is MUCH easier to see in person. :lol:

So.....I have an extra tidbit of info to share with you all. This morning, I asked Alex if the baby in my tummy was happy to be there - YUP! :) Then, I asked if SHE was going to stay there until SHE was too big to fit anymore - YUP! :) Then, he started stammering a little. He said something to the effect of "it's not just one". :disbelief: Excuse me? Then he says "There's both. A boy and a girl. They're right next to each other." :faint: x infinity. O.M.G.
My only hope is that there's 2 in there now.....but that one will change their mind and just one will come out. :eek: Well.....time will tell!

Oh, and I figured my due date would be 3/11.....and next year is a leap year....and with my tendency to have babies early.....I could have a leap baby!!! :woot: How cool would that be??? :lol:

:woo: :bliss: Congrats, Shannon!! :faint: TWO?!!? Twins are fun ;)

Congrats, Shannon!! :woo: :woo: I totally see the line. :nod:

I will be beyond floored if Alex is right on the money! I almost had a leap baby too, but he stayed inside one extra day. :awink:

Congrats Shannon!!! Twins!? wow.. wouldn't that be crazy if Alex was right all along!?

Still nothing here... I think now I've gotten about 5 BFN's and I'm getting annoyed. Isn't it CD 58932890237 for me or something!? Sorry I kept ya all hanging but we were in San Diego. We took Brookelyn to Sea World and Legoland for the first time.. she LOVED both!
Anyway, I'm getting really frustrated and think I'll call my dr today. My boobs are super tender, but I don't want to POAS again.. sick of seeing only one line!

Holy crap! Congrats, Shannon! :woo: I see the line there, too! :nod:

I will be floored if Alex is right! :faint:

Alyson..... :hug99: I've been thinking about you all week. I hope you get some resolution soon. :hug99:

WOW, Shannon! that is really freaky-in a good way! I hope he is right!!!! that would be so cool ......

Congratulation Shannon! Wishing you a healthy pregnancy!

My little sis had twins. She didn't find out until she was almost 7 months pregnant (let's not even talk about here bonehead doc). She was on her way to her u/s, and my mom told her she was having twins. My sister and her husband laughed it off. Then she came home crying :lol:.

After her initial shock, we were all super excited! Twins are a great blessing!

:woo: Shannon!!! :bliss: I am so happy for you. :)

CONGRATS SHANNON!!!! I am SO happy for you!!!! That's the best news I've heard all day!!!

Amanda

Congrats, Shannon!!!!

:woo: Shannon, congratulations, that's the best thing I've heard in a while!

:cheer: Here's to a happy and healthy nine months.

Hey, can you ask Alex for the Pennsylvania lottery winning numbers for Saturday's drawing? :awink:

Congratulations Shannon!

My niece was almost a leap baby. She was born on 2/26.

OMG!!! :jump: :woo: :cheer: :bawl: CONGRATUATIONS Shannon!!!!! I am so so so thrilled!!!! Sticky baby vibes coming your way :vibes:

Thanks everyone. :hug99: Marcy..... :lol:

I took another test this morning and got the same faint pink line. That's good, I guess.....I was just hoping it would be darker. :dunno: I guess that doesn't make me less pg. :heee:

I'm definitely starting to feel it. :dead: :bliss: Yesterday, I took a nap when I got home from work for about 1.5 hours. Then, I went to bed early and I was out for the night by about 10:15pm - unheard of! :faint: Of course, I needed to have a little chat with my 3yo....who's getting WORSE as he's getting older!! :wtf: We talked about cooperation, helping, and not jumping on the couch when mommy is trying to rest. :lol: Yeah....we'll see how much good that did in time.
I'm also feeling icky in general - not wanting candy and feeling like there's a mixer in my gut. :bliss:

Thanks for all your prayers for a sticky baby. :hug99: I definitely could use them. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't on my mind ALL the time and absolutely my biggest fear. :( I'm trying to relax and know that whatever happens is out of my control.....but that's not working all the time.

Can someone update us on Tab's pg progress here now and then? :) I really want this one for her and I know she lost one a while ago.

Tabitha is no longer a member here but she said that she is so thankful for all your wonderful well wishes. I will keep you posted as she posts!

HOORAY for another BFP Shannon!!!! Of course you're nervous. Sending lots and lots of sticky thoughts.

Amanda

:clap: for another BFP! YEAH!! I'm really hoping for a sticky little one for you, Shannon!!!

Ok.. now I'm really getting irritated! It's CD44 and still I got a -!!! WTH?!? I don't get it? I think I'm going to call my dr today for sure. Anyone have any advice? I'm going to start taking my temp tomorrow morning, but I'm just annoyed. My boobs are still so tender and I've just felt kinda crummy lately.. why can't it just be that I'm pregnant!?!? Is it possible to get a BFP on a blood test at this point, do you think? Or is it really just a negative again this time!?!? I'm so sad.....

Alyson, I'm so sorry there don't seem to be any answers... how frustrating. I don't have any advice other than to go see the doc.....just lots of :hug99:

Tabitha just pm'd me. Unfortunately they went to the doctor's and the results are not good. It looks like they had another Chemical pregnancy :sad:

Oh no! I'm so sorry for her.

Ooh no Tab... :bawl: how sad.... Please pass our regrets and hugs to her, Jayne, if you get a chance.... :hug99:

Crap. :bawl: Please send Tab my love. :hug99:

Poor Tab.. please send her my love Jayne!!... That's so sad!

Congratulations, Shannon! I am so happy for you! I will think [ositive thoughts that this one sticks. Do you want Alex to be right? :lol:

Shannon, I'm so thrilled for you! I've got everything crossed that you have a successful, easy pregnancy! :)

I'm sorry Alyson. I hope you get some answers soon.
Poor Tabitha!

Amanda

Yay Shannon! I'm so happy for you!!!

Jayne, please send Tabitha our hugs :sadhug:.

Alyson I am sorry that you got another BFN, especially with the sore boobs. How annoying! As far as the blood test, I think I had a positive blood test my first time about two weeks after my period was due...so if you took one now, it should be accurate. I guess your doctor could also u/s the area to see if everything looks cool...

Shannon, :pray: for a sticky baby. All the pg symptoms sound like a great sign!

I'm 3 DPO today. 2WW...yeah!! It says to test on Monday, the 16th...the day we board the boat... I tell you, if AF does show her face, she has some horrible timing-cruise and AF??? :gah: oh well, maybe it'll be really light like it has been...or maybe it won't come at all :awink: We did get 2 good BDs in before O (and one after hehe)... Let the chart obsession begin!!

Well ladies, it's been a nice couple of days. :( Unfortunately, I think this is the end. I took another test this morning to see if the line would get darker....and it's gone completely. I haven't started bleeding/cramping or anything yet.....and I suppose there's still hope until that happens....but I'm not holding my breath. :mope:

Onto the next one......

Oh Shannon.... :hug99: I'm not going to cry for you just yet, ok? it's not over till it's over!!!! I'm holding onto hope!

Shannon, I'm with Lena. It's not over til it's over!!!!

I'm sorry Shannon. I hope it was just a bum test.

Amanda

Shannon I'm keeping things crossed for you!!! I hope it was just a crap test!

I'm sorry Shannon...I'm also hoping it was a bum test.

Lena - I found out I was pregnant with Jackson the day we borded the boat for our cruise....I hope it is good luck for you too!

Michele-kewl!!! let's hope i get cruise boat-testing magic to work for me!

July 6th

Cycle Buddies
Melissa CD1 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Kimmy CD7 Kimmy's (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1ab1f8) Chart
Amy CD9
Amanda CD13 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Haydee CD19 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Kika CD20 8DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Rachel CD21 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Lena CD21 Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Shannon CD34
Jackie CD38 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Alyson CD44

July 7th

Cycle Buddies
Melissa CD2 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Kimmy CD8 Kimmy's (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1ab1f8) Chart
Amy CD10
Amanda CD14 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Haydee CD20 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Kika CD21 9DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Rachel CD22 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Lena CD22 3DPO Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Shannon CD35
Jackie CD39 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Alyson CD45

We just got back from our mini vacation. AF showed up yesterday and I am not really in a good mood.

:hug99: Shannon. I hope the last test was wrong.

Melissa :hug99:

I'm sorry Melissa.

Amanda

I have been gone with out proper internet and I am just catching up on this thread, I have gone through so many emotions in the span of a few minutes. Shannon, I hope this last test was a dud :hug99: My fingers are crossed tightly for you!

Melissa: :blue: I am so sorry AF showed. She is a wench

Alyson, sorry there are no answers as of yet, how frustrating!

Lena: Good luck on your 2WW, very exciting.

Thanks, Deb.

I input my temp for today and FF moved my O date to CD20 from CD19. So I guess I'm 3DPO-again :)

Lena, hey girl! :wavey:

FF is a PITA sometimes!

:wavey: Kika!! I miss you, girl!

I know! I will be home Saturday for 11 days...When are you leaving?

Melissa: sorry about AF. This month you O'd on the non-favorable side, right? I thought I remember you saying that...sorry I don't do a better job remembering! Anyhow, I hope that's true so that this next cycle is a better chance...

As for me, my boobs started to hurt on the 4th (which was 6DPO for me). My PMS kicks in on 7DPO every cycle, so the minute I get swollen boos I know it's over. I don't have a 2WW; I have a 1WW. If I can just turn that corner of 7DPO without swollen boobs, I'd know there was a chance. Oh well!

Alyson, I am sorry that your body is being tricky. I hope you can touch base with the doctor soon.

Brandi Jo, did you start the Clomid yet?

Kika, your chart looks fabulous, though! I'm holding onto hope!!

We are leaving for our convention and the cruise on Thur, the 12th and will be back on Fri night, the 20th, but going to the ILs to spend the night. We don't leave for Russia for another 2 weeks after that (Aug5), so there will be some days we'll be in town together! We definitely need to do Starbucks and get together (maybe you and kids can come over for dinner?) let's talk!!

July 8th

Cycle Buddies
Shannon CD1
Jackie CD2 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melissa CD3 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amy CD11
Amanda CD15 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Haydee CD21 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Kika CD22 10DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Rachel CD23 Rachel's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3683a)
Lena CD23 3DPO Lena's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/74d76)
Alyson CD46

I just reread my last post. I was not in a bad mood due to AF (although the wench didn't help matters) I was just is a really pissy mood due to my ds being a total buttmunch and me wanting to strangle the little guy. :scan: He was a total turd during most of our vacation; although Dave and I may have figured out what went wrong. Any who...thanks for the hugs..y'all are the best!

Ummm Starbucks!! I want one!:lick: Well not Starbucks but a coffee from Starbucks. It's been forever since I have had a GOOD coffee.:pant:

Kika: Sorry to hear af is on her way!:hug99:

Hey I just realized that my LP was a bit shorter:scratch: It was only 12 days instead of my normal 14. Wonder what that was all about.Maybe this cycle I will need to do the fertility monitor along with temping. :chin:

My spotting started this morning. :( What's funny is that if I'd waited until Sat to test to begin with, I'd have never known I was pg!
I have an appt with my OB on Wed, 7/11....it was supposed to be my first prenatal appt, but I think I'm going to keep it and have her check my hormone levels. Since this is my third m/c in a row, I think I can definitely start asking for some testing to be done. I'm not crazy about this doc, so hopefully she doesn't blow me off or have no idea about what to do next. :rolleyes:
I did find a doc I really like, but she's a GP and can't do any OB stuff at all. Of course, she did my last pap....maybe I should call her office and see if I can have her take it from here, since she's not going to be delivering any babies. :dunno:

I thought about this a lot yesterday....about what to do next. Do I throw in the towel and face reality, or do I fix what's broke and keep going? I think I'll see if there's something easy to do (like take prog supp or something) and just keep going. However....I am getting closer and closer to just being done. I'm emotionally exhausted and this whole process is my primary source of stress in my life. :( I just don't care anymore. So, right now I'm just working on being happy with my son and finding joy in having an only. It's hard because I'm extremely jealous of people with multiple kids and bitter about seeing people with multiple kids who didn't want any to begin with and don't even want the ones they have. :( It's not fair......

Enough whining for now...... :heee:

Melissa, I'll let you know when it's CD1.....

I'm sorry, Shannon. :(
My sister had 3 miscarriages in a row - one at 5weeks and the other 2 at 10-12 weeks (her body didn't miscarry, she didn't find out until the first sonogram). She had a bunch of testing done and nothing was wrong with her. Her dr suggested she take one baby aspirin a day and her next pregnancy stuck, she now has Molly, and she's pregnant with #2 (taking the baby aspirin again).

Definitely do the testing. You shouldn't have to go through this again.

I'm sorry Shannon. That's just sucky. I hope you get some answers!

Amanda

Thanks. :hug99: I actually took baby aspirin with my last 2 m/c's. :( My midwife suggested it before I got pg with Alex (because I lost 2 before him). I had some leftover and I took them all with the last 2 pg's. I didn't this time because I ran out. It can't hurt to try it again, right? :)

I am so sorry Shannon. :hug99: I hope you get some answers.

Shannon that just sucks nails! I am so sorry. :hug99: I hope your dr isn't a butthead and offers some light as to what is going on. However, I do know what you mean when you say emotionally exhausted. I pray that you find that answer that you will be able to live with. It really sucks.:hug99:

:hug99: shannon :hug99: I'm so sorry it hurts so much, you shouldn't have to go through this..... i would definitely request testing...

Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't been around lately. I have been doing a lot of thinking and DH and I have both decided that we are going to hold off on having another baby. I realized that when I though I was pregnant I was terrified. I thought I was ready and wanted a 3rd but I realized that I don't think I do. I love my boys so much and they are at good age. I just don't think I want to do it all over again. I used to have the urge whenever I saw a baby and since a few weeks ago I don't have that urge anymore. I have gone back on the pill for now and will decide down the road what to do next.

Shannon- I am so sorry for you! Hopefully the doctor will send you for testing to see what is wrong.

Melissa- Sorry AF showed up.

Lena- Good luck to you in your 2WW!

Kim I know that is a hard decision to make. I will go ahead and remove you from the list but if you ever get that urge again..just let us know. :hug99:

Kim, i'm glad that you both know what you want, even if just for now. I hope that whatever decision you arrive at, you are happy with it! We'd love to see you here with us, crazy chicks, and in the pregnancy groups, but if you feel that you'd be happier with the two kids you've got, I'm so glad you decided that-since that is what you want! :aok: .... :hug99: Now you can just stop by to visit :)

I have a question. Can anybody look at my chart from 3/06/2005-the month I got pregnant with N- and take a guess at when I Od then? FF doesn't show it-not sure if that is b/c I tested positive? Anywhoo, I overlayed that chart with the current one just to play and look fo similarities.

My charts always look ragged as I seldom temp at the same time of the morning, but I don't really care that if never looks perfect, I know I O and it still gives me accurate enough info.

If in that 2005 chart I Od on CD18, then the first BFP was at 9DPO, if it's CD19 (more likely, I think?), then 8DPO... I'm just figuring out when I can start playing with the little dollar sticks :giggle: I'm in the play mode now, baby! :lol:

Ok, I went back all the way to part 3 of CB (we are some posting freaks here, eh?) and found the posts when I got pg....... It was on CD27, supposedly 7DPO (go figure, I had cross hairs that cycle, too, so not too sure about that, but we do know it was on day 27)...so. I know things can be different this time, but according to what my body did last time, it's only 4 days away! AND, I can maybe test once before I head out of town on Thur afternoon and have absolutely no communication with you guys! That is just crazy talk, if you ask me! So i think that i may test on Thur, which, acc. to my currebnt chart, will be 7DPO as well..... :yippee:

Lena I think you need a vacation away from here. You have definitely lost your mind. :crazy:

:giggle:

DH and I had a little chat today about my appt on Wed. I wanted to know where he was at as far as testing and how far to take this. Luckily, we're both on the same page - we're willing to have some basic stuff tested and fixed (if needed), but we're not willing to do anything major - IUI, IVF, thousands of $$ worth of procedures, etc. :) I don't seem to have a big problem getting pg....my main issue appears to be staying that way, so most of those major things wouldn't help me anyway.

I'm looking forward to get this ball rolling again, actually, and the good thing about an early m/c is that I'm just disappointed....not grieving the loss of my baby, kwim? Honestly, it probably never even made it to embryo stage....just a bundle of cells that happened to implant.
When it really comes down to it, I'm NOT ready to give up completely. I just need to back off (emotionally) even more than I already have. I'm glad I still have a bunch of weight to lose because I can obsess on that instead. :lol:
I've already been working on getting things ready - my health, our marriage better, etc. - and once I get the other stuff figured out (hormones), it'll just be a matter of time. Patience is a virtue, right? :heee:

Oh, btw Melissa, you can put down today as CD1......

Shannon :hug99:

Shannon it sounds like you and I are on the same page with this whole TTC craziness!! How 'bout you and me supporting each other on our Weight Loss Journey and hopefully along the way we get pregnant! Sound good to you??? ;)

Melissa, that sounds fantastic!! :hug99: Have you joined The Biggest Loser thread? As you can see by the header, I'm already in. :lol:

Shannon lots of hugs to ya!! I didn't know you'd had so many m/c's? What about adoption? Is that something you're willing to do? I know we're pretty sure that later on down the road when we've had all of the babies we want then we'll adopt one or two.
Hope you have a better week!!

Oh.. I have a ?... for whoever has an answer:)
Does CM change when you're pg? Does it keep the same pattern??
I'm definetly calling the dr tomorrow, my boobs are still killin me and still no AF not to mention I've not felt all that great, been picky as hell about what I'm eating and DH asked me last night why I've been tired for like 1 1/2 weeks?!.. after I was complaining about being tired....

Shoot.. sorry girls.. another ?..
Does it matter which brand of stick I pee on?? I bought the ones from the $ store (I think they're called Save something) and those are the only ones I've tested with lately.... Think it matters?
Am I being a retard and just finding a way to get a +?? Maybe I should jsut draw one on a damn stick and start wearing maternity clothes... I think I've caught Lena's disease am I'm loosing my mind!!!:)

:hug99: Shannon. It's so unfair! but I am glad you guys have talked it through, I think you are taking the right steps. It does seem like a hormonal thing or even a genetic thing that is causing the babies to not stick. I hope it's figured out and you can get yourself a healthy baby. My fingers are crossed!

Kika: your chart is looking pretty special :brow:

Melissa, that sounds fantastic!! :hug99: Have you joined The Biggest Loser thread? As you can see by the header, I'm already in. :lol:

No but maybe I should so I can whip your butt!:roseglass

Alyson: I don't remember what my cm looked like when I was pg. Maybe buy a more expensive stick and pee on it to see what it says. Maybe the $ store ones are outdated.:dunno: Definitely make an appointment to see the docotor..you could be pregnant or have mono. I recently found out that I had it and that explained why I was so tired all the time. Good luck and I hope you get some answers soon!! :hug99:

I am a tired fool today. I've have 3 cups of coffee, all to no avail. PMS sucks! Is it me, or is PMS kicked up a notch or two once you approach your mid 30s? I never had it before my 33rd birthday. Never. I would look up and AF would surprise me. Now she kicks my butt one week before her arrival.

Shannon, I am really sorry. I didn't know you had suffered through several m/cs either. I think one is enough to go to the doctor for answers. I know most doctors would not agree, but what is the emotional cost? Why should any woman need to keep going through it w/o answers? I had coffee today with a physician friend of mine who is ttc #2. She has an almost three year old now, and she is in her early 40s. She had the first one at 39 or 40 no issues. Now she can get pg, but has had 2 m/c in the last 10 months. An OB doctor friend of hers suggested progesterone. According to this OB, most women 38+ just don't produce enough to sustain a pregnancy. Supposedly, your doctor can test your progesterone level throughout your cycle to determine if you are at risk for m/c due to low progesterone. I would probably request that in addition to testing FSH and E2, and the normal work up.

My poor friend went to her doctor after her 2nd m/c and the doctor made an insensitive comment about her age (I think she is 43) and why she was trying in the first place. It breaks my heart and angers :furious:the hell out of me that he spoke to her that way.

As women, we really should not stand for it. I understand the doctor's need to be realistic and upfront, but it is not necessary to be insensitive. We deserve to be treated with compassionate, and change doctors when we are offered less than compassion, sensitivity and respect.

I hope you get some peace of mind from your doctor.

Lena, in the past, I have tested positive at 7-8 days DPO. I have always known I was pg well before I missed a period. And at $1 a pop, what's the harm? As long as you are okay with the possibly of a BFN...My fragile ego can't handle it. I would only test if my temp was up and I was way late...

Alyson, I dunno about the DT tests. I thought the sensitivity levels on those were pretty low...but they also seem to sit there for some time, too. Did you buy all of them at the same time? It could be a bad batch or expired.

Oh yeah, Shannon, I forgot to mention the the progesterone issue can be treated by taking it orally...But you probably already knew that :awink:.

Oh yeah Alyson, your cm does change when you are preggo. Now its been a long time for me (my baby is almost ten, yikes!) but I remember it being heavier and clear-white.

Lena, in the past, I have tested positive at 7-8 days DPO. I have always known I was pg well before I missed a period. And at $1 a pop, what's the harm? As long as you are okay with the possibly of a BFN...My fragile ego can't handle it. I would only test if my temp was up and I was way late...
Kika, I'm totally ok with the BFN, probably b/c it's my first cycle and it's just fun right now... now, in another couple of months, if I'm not pg by then, I may just wait till the missed period to test....

I'm sorry you are feeling crappy! Chocolate should help, maybe? :awink:

Umm...chocolate?? No...for some reason I don't feel like chocolate. I was totally craving cheese, probably b/c it is salty? :dunno:

I wish I could ttc for fun. I just don't feel like this is fun. I know I should, but I don't. The only fun part is O time. AF sucks and the 2ww sucks.

If I had known I could have this much unprotected "relations" without consequence, I wouldn't have spent a small fortune on BCP and condoms during my 8 year marriage :lol:.

Okay, my bitch session is over...:lol:

The expiration on all of them was 11/2008... so they should have been fine! Uggh...

If I had known I could have this much unprotected "relations" without consequence, I wouldn't have spent a small fortune on BCP and condoms during my 8 year marriage :lol:.



That's what Tony and I said when it took a year to get pregnant with our 1st! all those times we worried in the past when we accidently forgot a pill or a condom etc were for nothing :rolleyes:

Sorry it's been so hard!

:hug99: Shannon! It totally sucks to get that line and then realise it's not sticking. I think mentally you're making the right decision about your ttc journey. Especially since you and dh agrees. I also think you need to ask the doc to do some test - whatever kind of tests they do. What if it's only a progesterone thing or something simple that can easily be fixed? Then at least you're giving yourself a chance without going through the high tech and expensive stuff. I hope you'll get some answers from the doc - and that this doc isn't PITA!!

:hug99: Alyson - I think you should go to the doc. If you're preggies - YEAH! If not - then they can maybe give you something to bring af on and you can ask about your cycles getting longer and longer now. Either way - you'll have some peace of mind.

About the tests q's - we have different brands around here, so I can't help you there. But what I do as a rule of thumb, is I always get at least 2 different brands. I don't take it as a positive unless two brands gave me a positive and I don't test with one brand only.

About the cm - when I was pregnant, I had more cm after O than in any other cycle and it was more the creamy/lotion type and more white/yellow (not see-through) in colour. A week after I got my positive I started having a watery discharge - lots of it until I had the m/c. But I know that cm during pregnancy differs from woman to woman and even from different pregnancies for each person.

Melis: hope you're over the worst of af! And ready to kick some butt!:hug99:

Lena: if you're really into having fun with those sticks, then why not start testing RIGHT NOW!!! Get ready to make some history girl!! Just think about it - what if you got the earliest bfp in the history of mankind?!?!? Kinda cool don't ya think???

Okay, so here's my update. In case you haven't noticed, I'm back from our loonnggg weekend in the mountains. It was totally awesome! The lodge was five star and so neat and beautiful. We had a fireplace (that's not something commin in SA houses, so dh had a blast getting the fire going and keeping it going). When you look out from the veranda it was just mountains and bushes - we were situated right next to a cliff - and there were baby monkeys all over the place. There was a jacuzzi, indoor heated swimming pool, tennis court etc.

We had an awesome time. (Kika - if you wanna have FUN again, then I suggest you book yourself in at this lodge!!).

And I guess I FINALLY ovulated. Boy, the 2ww is torture, but the 3ww till O is now getting on my nerves too!!!

Oh btw Melis, I think you need to start a new thread, or are we going for another world record? Maybe that will bring some good news around here..

Wow!! See what happens when you take Haydee away from a computer for a few days!! :blahblah: :lol: Just kidding!!! It's good to have you back and since you want a new thread I guess I can go ahead and start one. :sigh: I didn't want to but since you are bullying me into it I guess I will submit. :rolleyes: :giggle: Grabbing list and posting in new thread....

:phew:Here (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1057483#post1057483) is the new thread!!! Come by and visit why don't ya?! :whistle:


Can we get a mod to close this thread please??

yeah, yeah whatever... I had to keep you busy... with lots to read... and I have to practise my typing speed...

Yippee! Let's start a new chapter!!! Can you see how desperate I am to get preggies - trying EVERYTHING to get good vibes going!!

I love you chart intepretations Haydee!! I can't wait until it's time to interpret mine!!!:yippee:



I didn't realise that I haven't done your chart yet. I promise that her royal highness will be next. (I just need some temps to really get me going. So around cd14, I'll have a look....) and do it especially for you! But be warned... honestly is my strong point. You may not like what your chart reveals...

PS: if your chart is really bad, I'll pm you and not let your secrets out to the entire world.