Jan. 24th

Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD8 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD10 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Tabitha CD12 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD16 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD19 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jayne CD19 6DPO Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Jolene CD26
Jen CD28 15DPO Jen's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1234d8)
Haydee CD31 10DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

And so starts the 10th chapter in this crazy book. I almost changed the name to Waiting to Conceive..but thought na I better not! :lol: I pray that this chapter brings us many many :bfp: Good luck to us all!! :hug99: I hope this group gets smaller as the months go by.

:vibes: :vibes: For all!

I'm here! Good luck everyone getting ready to test!

Okay, I feel super shitty today (excuse the expression, but that's the closest to the truth!). :pullhair: I think I'm pre-af. Just wanna go back to bed and cry the whole day for no reason whatsoever. And then this morning it happened twice that I thought af was coming (I start spotting two days before full af, so the timing is right), run to the loo, only to find creamy cm.

Yesterday morning I had very bad nausea, couldn't eat breakfast (but no nausea today) and when I told DH I wanna stay in bed and cry today, he asked if I think I'm preggies. I nearly wanted to kill him for that statement, 'cause I really feel it's af (not that I know what "pregnant" feels like), but the way I feel today is way too familiar. Wish the old *&^%$# will just come and get it over with.

So I finally managed to get my tears under control, when dh called just to let me know how much he loves me and how happy I make him. Now I can't stop crying again...

Alyson: Hope you're doing better today. If you're worried I think just try to see your doc, even if it is only to put your mind at ease. Doesn't matter whether they think you're waisting their time, you've got a great excuse - you're an irrational, over-obsessed pregnant women and you can't help it!


Tabitha: Have no idea what it could be. But my philosophy for now (which may not be scientifically correct) is that anything that is different from my BFN cycles is a good thing.

Jan. 25th

Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD9 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD11 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Tabitha CD13 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD17 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD20 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jayne CD20 7DPO Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Jolene CD27
Jen CD29 16DPO Jen's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1234d8)
Haydee CD32 11DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

have I mentioned this 2ww is really really creaping along...seriously...I am exhausted adn when I do sleep I sleep like a log wich is not normal for me at all. Of course I have been having a bit of sleep issues to begin with too.

Haydee, I am sorry your feeling so down. Keep your chin up. She hasn't come yet I still believe in it! :hug99:

Wow ladies!! Neg yesterday - Pos with FMU today... I'm being quite guarded about it though
:)
baby dust to all!!

I don't know...they say there are only false neg...no false positives...!!!!!

Well lookie lookie what is going on inside Jen's chart!!!! CONGRATS, girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I :pray: this is it for you Jen!!!

Wow ladies!! Neg yesterday - Pos with FMU today... I'm being quite guarded about it though
:)
baby dust to all!!

Wow!!! congrats!!!!

Isn't that little green line the most beautiful little thing ever? :love:

Oh ladies, you're making me cry! Thank you so much! But I'm still a little leary... but Damn it's nice to get that pretty green line!! I'm the one panicking about telling people (which isn't happening until 3rd month) Darren's being all cool and calm about it!

Jen is pregnant.....:bliss:!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jen I can't remember...is this your first???

Nopers - this is my second. I have a dd born in sept. 03 as well. She told me the other day she wants to be a Big sister, and I was to the point of saying no more trying after this cycle. Hopefully my cramps are good ones though.. LOL..

Congrats Jen!

Hoping thread #10 brings great things to all of you!

Good morning. Things aren't looking so good. I had some decent bleeding overnight and this morning. And as much as I hate to say it, I just don't think things are going good. I've really been trying to be positive, but I think it's all coming to an end. I have an us at 11:15 so I'll update when I get home...

Oh Alyson..I will be praying for a sticky baby for you :hug99:

Oh Alyson! I am :pray: for a sticky baby!!! :hug99:

CONGRATS Jen!
Sticky thoughts Alyson!!!

Amanda

Congrats Jen :bliss:

:pray: for a sticky baby Alyson!!!

OH Alyson...i hope it's all ok. Update us as soon as you can, ok??

Alyson is everything ok??? Update when you can!! Praying for you to have a sticky baby!! :pray: :hug99:

it's only 2 pm where she is at, i think, so she is probably not home yet?

I thought her appt was at 11:30...I figured she would be home by now. I hope that everything is ok.

I came home just now and thought there would be an update...oh no. I hope everything is okay...

Wow.. I'm in tears just seeing how concerned you all were about me!! Thanks!! So far.. everything is ok... I had an ultrasound and they saw an embryotic sac. They said that it measured much smaller than it should have, considering my LMP (Dec 3rd). They sent me over to my OB and he was kind of baffled.. He sent me to get blood tests, HCG and progesterone. I have to go back on Sat morning to get the tests done again to see if the levels rise, fall or stay the same. He said there is a possiblity that I've miscarried but it's still in me, or that it's tubal or a ton of other possibilities.. So now it's a waiting game. He said that if the office doesn't call me by 3 pm on Monday to call them for the results and then he'll have them schedule me for an appt later that week.
All of our friends and family know, and I'm calling our pastor tomorrow. I know that at this point it's out of our hands. I don't think I've ever prayed so much in a 24 hour period as I have the past 24 hrs. I'm trying to stay really positive and to just know that things will go well. My good friend Joni told me to go get 'Supernatural Childbirth' ( a book). She said it is awesome and will really give me some hope. So I'll go in the morning and get that and come home and read it and play candyland with Brookelyn!! Thanks again to everyone here so much, it means the world to Matt and I that you guys care so much!!!! Love to you all!!

Alyson I'll be thinking of you over the next few days :hug99:

I will be thinking of you Alyson :hug99:

I'm hoping and praying for a sticky baby Alyson!

Amanda

Alyson I will keep you in my prayers. :pray: for a sticky baby. :hug99:

Jan. 26th

Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD10 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD12 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Tabitha CD14 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD18 Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD21 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jayne CD21 8DPO Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Jolene CD28
Jen CD30 17DPO Jen's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1234d8) :bfp:
Haydee CD33 12DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

Alyson, I hope that this baby sticks for you :hug99:

Here is maybe a little hope to add...

My sister Jen had the same thing happen that your going through..ONly this time they told her she was miscarring. She went home to let it happen naturally. She went back for a follow up the next week and the doctor looked shocked. Sydney is now 3.5 years old. She didn't miscarry at all. She was our little miracle..Now she is the devil child :lol: but don't give up hope...You just never know where a miracle can happen!

My temps are on the rise! DH said to me last night..."Your pg". He said that he hadn't said anything but he said my sense of smell is driving him crazy. He pointed out that I had told both kids to brush their teeth after they had just done so because their breath smelled. Two days ago he was having peanut butter and I guess I told him it was making my stomach churn. Last night he brought a cherry pop tart to bed and it made me gag.

I all of a sudden and sleeping like a log and I had been not sleeping at all.

I don't know for sure and I am not getting my hopes up but heck..if DH noticed it welll..I will take it as a bit of a sign!

:crossfing that this is it for you Jayne.

Alyson....hugs to you, dear! i can't imagine how hard the waiting must be.you can't get your hopes up, but you also can't not get them up..boy oh boy.... stick, baby, stick!!! :pray:

Jayne, I'd say those are good signs!!! Getting cautiously optimistically happy for you...... :)

Thanks everyone:) DH also read all of the comments yesterday and wanted me to say thanks from him too!!

Jayne.. I'm thinking good thoughts for you!! I hope this is it for you!! You're in my prayers!

You are welcome Alyson's dh. :biggrin:

So I just passed a pretty big stringy piece of tissue.. now I'm really getting worried. My stepdad is taking it over to my OB for me right now.. Please pray for me that it isn't the sac... :(

:pray: Alyson, thinking sticky thoughts!

I'll be praying for you Alyson! Please try to stay positive

oh Alyson...... :hug99: please keep us posted as much as you are able to, ok? stick, baby, stick!

Uggh.. it's going to take 2 weeks for the final results from pathology!!! 2 weeks!!!! geez, don't you think I'll know on my own what it was or wasn't in 2 weeks!!! Man!! And I asked my stepdad and my sister who both work at different hospitals and they both said that 2 weeks is pretty normal... uggh...

oh wow, Alyson. THat sucks. I'm sorry you are having to wait to ind out.

Just wondering.. if anyone has had a miscarriage.. how long after the miscarriage did you really feel 'un' pregnant? Like.. even though I am only 7 weeks my stomach is rock hard, boobs are killin' me all that stuff... If it's a miscarriage will all of that go away quickly or slow?...
God, I hope I didn't miscarry!!!! I'm trying so hard to think positive and be strong and not cry. Poor Brookelyn has seen me cry so many times lately and I feel awful about that...

I'm continuing to pray for you, Alyson. :hug99: I know this has been a long road for you. :hug99:

Alyson, I'm sorry for all the stress and unsure things around you now. I am thinking positive thoughts for you!

Jen, congratulations, what a nice-looking chart!

Jayne, very good symptoms. Hoping for good news for you.

Jayne, temps looking good! how long will you wait to test? How long is your LP phase usually?

I had an eptopic so my symptoms were a lot different. I will pray that it wasn't the sac that it was just part of your uterus where that beautiful baby is just nestling in. :hug99: Keeping you in my prayers!

Jan. 27th

Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD11 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD13 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Tabitha CD15 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD19 3DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD22 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jayne CD22 9DPO Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Jolene CD29
Jen CD31 18DPO Jen's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1234d8) :bfp:
Haydee CD34 13DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

I have officially entered the 2WW. :sigh: I go in Monday to confirm ovulation!!!

Just wondering.. if anyone has had a miscarriage.. how long after the miscarriage did you really feel 'un' pregnant? Like.. even though I am only 7 weeks my stomach is rock hard, boobs are killin' me all that stuff... If it's a miscarriage will all of that go away quickly or slow?...
God, I hope I didn't miscarry!!!! I'm trying so hard to think positive and be strong and not cry. Poor Brookelyn has seen me cry so many times lately and I feel awful about that...

my stomach felt bloated for weeks...until about a week after the D and C, then my boobs stopped being sensitive, etc.

I'm so sorry that they said it will take 2 weeks...are you going back to your dr before that?
I am praying for you Alyson!!

We will hear from the doctor on Monday. He'll be calling with my hcg and progesterone test results. So, that should tell us something... right? lol Overnight I didn't bleed hardly at all, so I'm hoping that is a good sign. I got the book Supernatural Childbirth from a friend yesterday and read almost the whole thing last night. Then Matt and I prayed together.. so hopefully things will turn in the right direction..
Again, thanks so much to all of you!! I don't know what I'd do without everyone here!!!:)

I'm off to brave a friends baby shower today... might be kinda hard, but I'm gonna try and just be happy for her!!!

:hug99: Alyson!

I'm sorry Alyson.
Jayne - Crossing everything!
Melissa - I hope you did it this time!!!

I *think* I'm probably 2 DPO. I also think our timing wasn't great (as usual) so I doubt we caught the egg. I'm ok with that! I know that it would be better to wait a few more months but with my fertility history, we don't want to do that. Anyway only time will tell!!!

Amanda

Jan. 28th

Cycle Buddies
Jackie CD12 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD14 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Tabitha CD16 Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD20 4DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD23 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jayne CD23 10DPO Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Jolene CD30
Jen Jen's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1234d8) :bfp:
Haydee CD35 14DPO Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

Congrats Jen!!!! That's the best news ever!!!!

Alyson, keeping you in my prayers...

I'm back to square one.

I'm 3 DPO today.

Sorry Haydee.
I had a terrible night with the kids so no temp for me this morning. Annoying because I'd like to know if I really O'ed or not.

Amanda

Well I didn't get any sleep Saturday night at my grandparents so no testing. Then last night I had a splitting headache night which usually is a sign AF is on her way. I still have a headache and my temp has dropped below my dotted coverline. I think AF is around the corner. :cry: I am actually ok with it. If that happens it happens.

Jan. 29th

Cycle Buddies
Haydee CD1 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :hug99:
Jackie CD13 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD15 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Tabitha CD17 3DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD21 5DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD24 3DPO Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jayne CD24 11DPO Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Jolene CD31
Jen Jen's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1234d8) :bfp:
(http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

Sorry, Haydee, Tab and Jayne......

Alyson, how are you holding up? :hug99:

Today I go to have my progesterone levels checked. How do they do it? Draw blood? Just curious. :biggrin:

Yup. Progesterone is a blood test.
You can make me 3 DPO today.

Amanda

Thanks Ladies!
Alyson - how are you doing after the weekend? SS for all the ladies starting a new cycle, way too frustrating. Mama - good that they're checking your Progesterone.. hopefully it's all normal and you don't have to have anything funky done. Jayne - hold faith. You possibly could have had a wonky night of sleep! I know if I don't have my thermometer in the right part of my mouth when I take temps it can be off by almost a whole degree! *crosses fingers*

Thanks! I just like to know what I am walking into. Will they be able to give me the results then or will I have to wait?

Sorry, Haydee, Tab and Jayne...... Ummm hello what are you saying sorry to me for? Do you know my cycle is going to be a bust before I get started into my DPO's or what :lol:? Hon, I am 3 days past Ovulation not CD 3 :lol:

Well. It's official. The nurse called me about an hour ago to say that my HCG levels went from 160,000 ( I think that is what she said ) on Thursday to 150 on Sunday, and that it was a miscarriage. I think I'm 'ok' with it. We've had so many days to think about it and talk about it that it didn't hit me like a ton of bricks or anything today when she called. Of course I'm sad, but I know that it likely happened because something wasn't right with the baby. I go in later this week just to talk with the doctor and they'll test my levels again the nurse said. I just can't believe that I'm not pregnant. I don't feel pregnant though. I haven't for 2 days or so now. Things will get better, I'm positive! It will happen again...:) Thank you everyone in here for being sooo supportive and wonderful to me and Matt through this. I honestly think I'd have lost my mind if it weren't for all of you helping me out:)

:hug99: Alyson, I am so very sorry for your loss. :hug99:

Alyson my heart breaks for you and Matt. :hug99: I am so sorry for your loss! If you need to talk you can pm me.:hug99:

I'm so sorry Alyson :hug99:

I am so sorry, Alyson! :hug99:

I am so sorry Alyson. :hug99:

Alyson, I'm SO sorry...:hug99:

Ummm hello what are you saying sorry to me for? Do you know my cycle is going to be a bust before I get started into my DPO's or what :lol:? Hon, I am 3 days past Ovulation not CD 3 :lol: OOPS!!!!!!!! :shuffle: I must be losing my mind! Sorry, Tab! I thought you were CD3.. :shuffle: :giggle:

OOPS!!!!!!!! :shuffle: I must be losing my mind! Sorry, Tab! I thought you were CD3.. :shuffle: :giggle: Thats ok, I love giving you a hard time :lol: I figured you must of read it wrong.

I'm sorry Alyson.

Amanda

(((hugs))) for Alyson.
Jen

Alyson, I'm sorry for the loss that you and Matt experienced.

Alyson so sorry for your loss :hug99:

Oh Alyson, that totally sucks! :cry: :cry: I cannot begin to imagine what it must be like... Just take some time out and pamper yourself.

Good luck Melis! :crossfing I hope this cycle is it for you! Have to admit that I would feel quite guilty if I get the BFP before you! So please get it over and done with so the rest of us can move on as well!;)

My dh didn't know what hit him this cycle (neither did I for that matter!). I have been pre-menstrual, menstrual and post-menstrual - the worse case of pms I've had in a long time! My hormones raided havoc! Yesterday morning I woke up crying 'cause the alarm went off and I did not stop crying until late last night. Locked myself in my office the whole day yesterday. Then my dh brought me flowers to work, he did all the laundry and he even cooked (without me having to ask!). So when I was still crying last night, dh said he was worried about me and I told him that I'll be better, I'm just pre-af. That's when he said, but you've been pre-af for a week now, isn't your period over?! At least the crying stopped this morning, just feel a bit fragile.

BTW Melissa, I'm CD4 today.

Sorry Haydee! I hope you feel better.
I didn't O afterall. :blue:

Amanda

Sorry Haydee! I hope you feel better.
I didn't O afterall. :blue:

Amanda

And it was looking so promising for you - having a shorter cycle than usual.

Good luck for the waiting! Hope it happens when you can have perfect timing with dh!

Haydee, I am so sorry your feeling so down :hug99:

Well..As I cold tell. AF showed her head this morning. This Cycle is over for me. I have a raging headache and she is here in full force. I took some Aleve and hopefully can get some rest. I have Hannah today (At 6:30) and then have her till 4 when I take Alyssa to Gymnastic's. Hard to predict when a 9 week old will go down for a good nap but I will just have to try and rest when she does.

CD 1 today Melissa :cry:

Haydee please don't feel guilty if you get your bfp before me!! I would be very excited for you as I know this is what you want and are searching for. :hug99: I am soo sorry that you are feeling down. Lift that chin to the sky and smile big. It will make you feel much better.

Jayne I am so sorry that AF reared her ugly head. :hug99: I hope your headache goes away quickly.

Amanda: That just sucks that you didn't O...

Jan. 30th

Cycle Buddies
Jayne CD1 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Haydee CD4 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :hug99:
Jackie CD14 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD16 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Tabitha CD18 4DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD22 6DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD25 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jolene CD32
Jen Jen's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1234d8) :bfp:
(http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

You know I am feeling ok with AF showing . NOt sure why. I guess I just wanted to know I could take something for my headaches then Tylenol because they have been getting stronger and stronger as AF was approaching. my DR. told me to take an Aleve around the clock for 5 days starting a day or two before AF but I am pretty sure you shouldn't take aleve if your pg so I was holding off taking it.

I think Charting really has helped me through this one because I knew with my temp dive what was coming and I am ok with it. This will be our last month of trying for a bit. I am going to try and avoid a Christmas baby again. It is really hard on us that month and I am not sure we could afford another christmas baby. So we will try this month (early Nov baby) and then take two - three months off (I will still chart) to avoid the December/January/Early Feb baby. It is so hard to believe I won't have a baby in the beginning when Alyssa starts school. I really wanted this. But God has a plan for me and I guess he is just not ready for me to understand all of his plan.

Hold strong in your faith Jayne. It's the only thing that has kept me sane all these years of TTC. :hug99:

Thanks Melissa. I can't even imagine going through it as long as you have and your strength is encouraging :hug99:

Sorry Jayne!

Amanda

:hug99: Jayne

Jayne.. I'm sorry this wasn't it for ya! I know what you're saying about a Christmas baby! We'd like to avoid that time of year too, just too much going on then! I'm sure there is some reason AF came for ya instead of a BFP! At least you can rid the headache!! lol:)

It's strange to say that now I can't wait for AF to show up! The nurse said she'd show up soon after I stopped bleeding. I haven't had any blood for almost 14 hrs.. so.. I'm happy with that. I'm still sad, but I want to move on from this miscarriage and get in some regular cycles so we can start trying again soon. :) Thanks again to everyone here for being so supportive.

Now.. lets hope and pray for lots of BFP's soon here:)!!!!

:hug99: thanks Alyson.

Sounds like your ver upbeat and positive Alyson! I hope that this comes for you soon.

(Alyssa is a christmas baby...it is far more expensive then my may baby :lol: )

Alyson I love your positive attitude!! You seem like such a strong woman!!

Thanks:) You know, we prayed and prayed, and spoke and spoke that things would turn out ok.. and they didn't, but at the same time I know that usually when you miscarry it's because there is something 'wrong' with the baby. I've just come to terms with the fact that if it's meant to be it's meant to be.. and I have a happy healthy 3 yr old to keep me busy too!!..:)

Alyson, as horrible as miscarriage is, I hope you can see that there is hope, after all that time trying-you can get pregnant :) So hopefully, next time around, soon, everything will go ok :) :hug99:

Thanx for being such an inspiration Alyson! It's easy to trust and believe when everything is going your way, but in times like these, it's then when your faith is really tested and tried. I think you've passed with flying colours!!

Wanna tell you ladies what happened to me yesterday. Decided to get a saliva microscope for future cycles just to take the pressure of the bd'ing (in the long run cheaper than OPK's). My O date varies from CD16 to CD21, so the bd'ing on demand gets a bit demanding! But around here it's not always that easy to find what you're looking for (and we don't have a Wallmart!). So I called a couple of drugstores to find out whether they stock it, but no luck after 4 calls and one chemist didn't even know what I was talking about!

Then I tried the next one and when the guy answered the phone I asked whether they stock saliva microscopes. He didn't know what I was talking about, so I explained and after the explanation he said: Oh, I know what you're talking about. My wife and I bought one a couple of weeks ago and it really works. She fell pregnant after the first time. You should really try it 'cause it seems to be very accurate.

I told him that I'm glad to get a personal reference that it works and then said, so do you stock it? No, he answered, you're through to Andy's hardware store, we don't stock the microscopes! But I can give you the number of the drugstore where we got ours from. He then asked how long we've been trying, gave some tips on the microscope use and told me not to quit trying!

Afterwards I couldn't stop laughing. Here I am talking to a total stranger (another woman's husband to be exact), about our TTC journey and taking tips from the guy at Andy's hardware store about saliva microscopes!

What a great story Haydee!!!! I hope it works for you.
Alyson - You have such a wonderful attitude. I know things will work out for you.

No news from me. I'm starting to feel pre-O pains so maybe I'm getting there. I've been so optimistic that we'd be able to avoid drugs this time around but I'm starting to realize that isn't very likely. We'll see.

Amanda

What a great story Haydee!!!! I hope it works for you.
Amanda

Well, as long as we don't have to plan bd for 2 weeks on end, I will be more than happy! The last cycle nearly killed me 'cause I'm not sure exactly what day I o on (even ff got it wrong at first!) and therefore we had to keep up the bd'ing for nearly 2 weeks! Now at least there shouldn't be 2 weeks of bd'ing on demand, but only 2 days! And the rest could be left up to fun!

What a great story Haydee. I bet their dinner conversation was funny that night. :lol: I hope it works for you!

Question: Last night I had some cramps. Almost like AF cramps but I am not close enough for those to be coming on. What on earth could that have been? I don't have them today. They started last night about an hour after dinner. Gas maybe????

Jan. 31st

Cycle Buddies
Jayne CD2 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Haydee CD5 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004) :hug99:
Jackie CD15 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD17 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Tabitha CD19 5DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD23 7DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD26 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jolene CD33
Jen Jen's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1234d8) :bfp:
(http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)

Thanks Amanda!:)

That story is pretty good Haydee! Let's hope it'll cut down on some of the 'demand' bding ha!? lol.. I always hated that, even dh got to the point where it was like, 'do we have to?' lol:) Good luck girl!

Question: Last night I had some cramps. Almost like AF cramps but I am not close enough for those to be coming on. What on earth could that have been?

You're at the proper time for implantation cramps. I think that I had them with Anya. This one afternoon I noticed some spotting, and then a few hours later leaving the grocery store I had sudden cramps that were gone within the five minutes it took me to drive home.

You're at the proper time for implantation cramps. I think that I had them with Anya. This one afternoon I noticed some spotting, and then a few hours later leaving the grocery store I had sudden cramps that were gone within the five minutes it took me to drive home.

Hmmmm:chin:
This is going to be a long week now. I have 7 days until I find out. :wait: :bitenails

Yep thats what it was for me last month when I got PG that was around 7 or 8 DPO then on 9 DPO I had this stabbing pain which I read could of been implantation but I didn't have any spotting though.

only 7 more days till we find out, Melissa... :popcorn:

Hang in there Tab and Melissa! This waiting is so annoying!!! Feels like I'm the one in the 2ww 'cause I'm just as anxious to find out whether this is it for the 2 of you!!:bitenails

Thank you Haydee, I was freaking out because my temps dropped for the past 2 days way down under cover line (well it went up a little yesterday) and now today it went back up to normal so I hope it continues to rise!!!


This is what happened to me last night, so I am copying and pasting. Still not sure what to think of it though..........

TMI but I just went to the bathroom and a small piece of toilet paper (must of been when I wiped earlier that some got stuck up inside of me and it was brown :blush: and the reason I was wiping again is because I thought I had a very small amount of spotting on the TP so thats why I checked again.

I have cramps really bad right now though so not sure what to think of any of it but I better not be getting AF now since I am only on CD19.

So I have no clue what that was!!! I just hope my temps continue to rise now and stay above my cover line.

Okay, it's official and I say it again I HATE the 2ww! It totally drives you nuts (even if you're not the one in 2ww yourself)! Every symptom could be or could not be something....

I checked your chart and I don't think you have reason to worry about those two dropped temps. Personally I think spotting mid 2ww is good (not that I had been pregnant before! so don't quote me!). How long is your LP? Does it vary from cycle to cycle? My LP is 12 days solid, no change. So if the cramping is too early and your LP does not vary, I would think it's good???

Tabitha: you've been trying for more than a year right? Is this your first pgn? Have you considered meds to assist you? Just curious.... and learning from others' experiences...

Melissa and Tabitha - Things sound promising for both of you!!! Fingers crossed!

I *think* I'm getting ready to O soon. I hope I O this weekend because Tom will be here and that will maximize our chances. Tom was teasing me last night and said it's the wrong time of year for me to get pregnant since we only seem to have kids in Jan/Feb!!!

Amanda

Feb. 1st

Cycle Buddies
Jayne CD3 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Haydee CD6 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Jackie CD16 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD18 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Kika CD19 8DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Tabitha CD20 6DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD24 8DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD27 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jolene CD34

Melissa & Tabitha - your charts look promising! I hope this is your month!!!!!
Jen

I called my doctor this morning to get my results.
Now I am just waiting. :tapfoot::wait:


I had a dream last night that when I called for the results they told me that I was pregnant. :whistle:

LOL baby dreams already? Uh oh you're in for it now :)

Tab.....hmmm...don't know...maybe implantation dip?

Good luck Melissa!

Amanda

Okay, it's official and I say it again I HATE the 2ww! It totally drives you nuts (even if you're not the one in 2ww yourself)! Every symptom could be or could not be something....

I checked your chart and I don't think you have reason to worry about those two dropped temps. Personally I think spotting mid 2ww is good (not that I had been pregnant before! so don't quote me!). How long is your LP? Does it vary from cycle to cycle? My LP is 12 days solid, no change. So if the cramping is too early and your LP does not vary, I would think it's good???


When it was the one I was fine but then when my temps didn't budge much I started freaking out that it might of been AO cycle and thats why I started freak out. My Lp ranges from 11-13 days. I normally get AF 26-27 days.

Tabitha: you've been trying for more than a year right? Is this your first pgn? Have you considered meds to assist you? Just curious.... and learning from others' experiences...

We've been TTC for 3 years now! I have 2 children already a son who is 11 (took one month TC him) and a daughter who is 8 (took 4 months TC her). Back in May of last year I was suppose to get blood work done and Steve was suppose to have a semen sample done too but he was to embaressed to have it done so we held off, I asked my OB if she would put me on Clomid or whatever there was to be put on but she wouldn't do it and said she wanted me to get tested and then ship me off to a FS and I told her I would NEVER go that route because I am a big baby when it comes to shots.

Thank you Amanda and Jen!!

Lena- I guess time will tell :crossfing: just wanted to note that in December before I found out I was PG I had excessive saliva off and on and choking on it a few days before I found out I was PG well guess what???? I had that today too and that was the first thing I thought of when I was PG in December and I'm really not trying to get my hopes up!! :whistle:

WOW Tab - quite the "adventure" you've had over the past few years! DH didn't want to have semen done hey - don't worry mine didn't either - babies! We go through ALL of this and yet they can't put their man babies in a simple small cup for us! Figures! :) LOL... The extra saliva thing sounds promising - and it sure is hard to not get your hopes up, but that's what keeps us going right! :) *~*~*~Baby Dust*~*~*
Jen

Dave didn't want to put his man babies in a cup. That is not until I explained to him all that I had been putting my body through and I thought it was the least he could do. :rolleyes: Men are retards...but we love them.


So I finally got a call back from my doctor's office. FINALLY..like 3 minutes till 5! :tapfoot: Talk about unpatient!!! I was about to come unglued. Anyway...good news!!! I OVULATED!!!! Now just to wait and see if this cycle took or not. I still have the AFy type cramps. I think it's to early even though I am supposed to start about Tuesday. I really hope and :pray: that it's implantation cramps. That I could deal with!!! Either way when it's my time it will happen.


Good luck Tabitha!!

Great news Melissa!!!

Amanda

Hi!

I wanted to know if I can join your group. I am at CD19, 8DPO. My chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b

A little about me:

I am 33, with two children, ages 11 and 9. I was not "trying" to conceive either time (BC oopsies). I have been reading your posts for about a month now.

I found this forum with a Google search trying to find information on anovulatory cycles. My entire life I have been fertile- too fertile- and then suddenly in November my periods got weird. WEIRD. Scant, brownish, irregular. I mentioned this to my doctor and she shrugged and said, "maybe you just haven't ovulated the last couple of cycles..." WT**?!!

My doctor didn't think the weird cycles were a big deal. She stated that we have so many cycles over our lifetime, and some are bound to be anovulatory. I have never heard this before... Despite my desire to TTC in about 6 months, she suggested that I start BC pills to regulate my cycle and just keep an eye on things.

Of course I immediately panicked. I was married for more than eight years, and my husband and I never had children together. I have always wanted to have more children, but it was never the right time. I had my first two relatively young, and took for granted the miracle that I possessed/experienced. Now I am older, and in a wonderful relationship and about to re-marry, and I want to have more children. I am finally so close to trying, and I am distraught by the idea that it may not be possible.

I went in search of answers for the weird periods and found few answers. I have a family history of a number of fertility issues (thyroid gland, autoimmune disease, endometriosis, and fibroid tumors), so I had a number of blood tests that turned up nothing. Since the weird periods started, I have also started to experience month-long pain (like menstrual cramps), nausea, and more scant, extremely light periods. I am also spotting whenever I lift anything heavy. I returned to the gynie today to get answers on the pain and symptoms, and nothing! I am now going to get an ultrasound to investigate further.

I feel almost as though I went to sleep at 25 and woke up 33...where did my 20's go? I am trying hard not to be angry with myself for the decisions to wait so long. And I am trying hard not to be frustrated with my doctor for her nonchalant attitude. Her only question/suggestion today was asking if I have a family history of early menopause (which I do, an aunt who experienced it a 30).

This month, my partner and I (the soon to be DH) agreed to just go ahead and TTC...due to my age, family history, and current situation. However, he does not currently have children, and I know his preference is to wait until this summer after we are married.

At this point, I am not TTC, just temping and charting...trying to understand my body and all that I am experiencing. I love your group, and how supportive you guys are of each other.

P.S. I am sorry to whine, my doctor's appt. was just this morning, and I am so frustrated!

Kika's Chart
TEST..

Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b) Here ya go Melissa and she is 8DPO today :)... going back to catch up.

How in the hell did you do that??? I just tried it and it didn't work!!

:lol: All you have to do is copy her link and paste it in a new post then while it is still highlighted just type in her name :)

Welcome Kika. :wavey: Where are you from? I hope your journey is a short and sweet one.

:lol: All you have to do is copy her link and paste it in a new post then while it is still highlighted just type in her name :)

:gah: I did that and it didn't work!!!! I am a :loser: :lol: I am gonna try again.

Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)

Well hell I'll be a monkey's uncle!!! It works. Shazam!!! :lol: That is pretty easy. Hopefully this time I will be able to remember!!!

Welcome Kika!!! You weren't whining, your looking for support and thats what we are here for so vent all you want :hug99: I hope you get some answers soon! That would be frustrating as hell and especially since your OB is being weird about not actually helping you out!! :hug99:

Good luck!!!

Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)

Well hell I'll be a monkey's uncle!!! It works. Shazam!!! :lol: That is pretty easy. Hopefully this time I will be able to remember!!! If not thats what were here for to help each other out :)

Good luck this month Melissa!!!

Thanks for the welcome and well wish...

I am from the Chicago area.

And BTW, I am happy to hear that you ovulated! I wish I could find out definitively if I am, but I doubt my doctor will test since I am not officially TTC.

Thanks Tabitha.

My doctor's mantra is, "TTC for six months, and if you're not successful, THEN come talk to me". Which I can respect...I guess.

Funny thing is, she isn't an OB. She is a gyno that specializes in fertility issues and other abnormalities. I initially came to her b/c of abnormal paps. A year and several paps, a colposcopy, and biopsy later, they're still abnormal. I thought the weird periods were due to the abnormal paps, but she didn't think so. I bought an OPK, which was + on the third day, but I read that that doesn't mean I actually OV.

I guess with the family history and current symptoms, I am nervous about waiting six months before trying, and then waiting another six months before consulting a doctor. But I guess it may have to be just that. In the meantime, I am going to chart and try to learn as much about my cycles as possible.

And I am getting quite an education from this forum!

Welcome Kika!

Amanda

Good luck to you too Tabitha!

Kika: Would it be possible to see another dr? This one obviously doesn't understand your needs. Charting definitely helped me figure out my cycles and understand more about them. Good luck!!

Welcome Kika! :welcome: Good luck with your TTC journey (even though you're not officially trying - you're still prepping!) ! I know the frustration when you're just starting to TTC (even though it's not your first). Three months ago during my first cycle TTC I was totally obsessed and when I did not fall pregnant the first time I couldn't understand what was wrong with me and started to prepare myself for a pregnancy-less future! :doh: That's when I started reading on the net and decided to join this forum - to keep my sanity in tact! (And dh's as well - find it easier to chat to sista's who know what I'm talking about, than dh, who I always have to explain how everything works! And then his usual response is: oh!).

I have also struggled with the blame-game for waiting this long - but not blaming myself, but my circumstances and sometimes even God. Waiting to conceive until I'm married was a religious decision for me, and I only met dh when I was 29, got married a year later and we started trying immediately. And then I realised that pondering on the blame-game only aggrevates me and that it will not accomplish anything. Instead I try to focus on educating myself about TTC and supporting others who are going through the same experience. And this is what makes the journey a bit more bearable for me!

Hope you'll find answers to your periods soon!

:bliss: Yea Melis! So far so good!! At least you know this cycle is not wasted and there's still lots of hope!!!

Good luck Tabitha! Signs are good so far!!!!

Okay ladies, signing off for the weekend. There'd better be some good news and promising charts when I get back on Monday!!

Feb. 2nd

Cycle Buddies
Jayne CD4 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Haydee CD7 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Jackie CD17 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD19 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Kika CD20 9DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Tabitha CD21 7DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD25 9DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD28 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jolene CD35

Melissa...:aok:

Tab...your chart is looking fabulous right now! Are you still salivating? (sounds funny, doesn't it lol?)

Kika, welcome! I hope your stay here is short and sweet! I hope you are all knocked up by the time I start TTC our number 2 Juneish....

....and i just have to say...... man babies???? :lol2:

Thanks Haydee...You are so right. Playing the blame game doesn't get me anywhere but frustrated. My rational self knows I made all the right decisions for my situation. And I know waiting until the summer is the right decision, too. I wish someone would explain it to my emotional self.

I am better today though. I had my little tirade yesterday...:drama: My poor BF. He is such a good person.

And Lyoshka, thanks for the wishes! But I am going to be in the same TTC boat with you in June. Despite my worrying, I have decided to wait until June/July. Spring babies! That has to be the best...:roseglassI had two summer babies before. I can't afford another one!

Kika I am glad you have such a great BF to talk to. That always helps. Not to mention little tantrums every now and then. ;) I am prone to throw them myself. :scan: :lol:

Lena: I hope the fact that my temps have been high are a good sign. I WILL NOT GET MY HOPES UP THIS TIME!!! I can't allow myself to do it. Last month was so hard when AF showed up. One day at a time and if it's in His plan then it will be!! :secret: Say many prayers, chants, or whatever you believe in that it will work this cycle. ;) :lol:

Anyone going to read this?

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/1596910178.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1596910178/ref=dp_image_0/104-6621885-8915927?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books)
The author of Schoolgirls: Young Women, Self-Esteem, and the Confidence Gap, Orenstein now offers a very personal account of her road to becoming a mother. Orenstein was a happily married 35-year-old when she decided she wanted to have a baby. While she knew it might not be easy (she had only one ovary and was heading into her late 30s), she had no idea of the troubles she'd face. First, she was diagnosed with breast cancer, fortunately treatable. After waiting the recommended recovery period, she miscarried with a dangerous "partial molar pregnancy," so she had to avoid becoming pregnant for at least six months. Soon she was riding the infertility roller coaster full-time, trying everything from acupuncture to IVF and egg donation. She endured depression and more miscarriages while spending untold thousands of dollars. Even her very understanding husband was beginning to lose patience, when, surprisingly, she got pregnant with her daughter, Daisy. While readers don't have to be fertility obsessed to enjoy this very witty memoir (with its ungainly subtitle), for the growing number of women struggling with infertility this book may become their new best friend. (Feb.)


People mag gave it 4 stars...I think I may buy it!

It sounds interesting Kara!

Amanda

Hmmm sounds interesting and hopeful. I may have to read it!

And Lyoshka, thanks for the wishes! But I am going to be in the same TTC boat with you in June. Despite my worrying, I have decided to wait until June/July. Spring babies! That has to be the best...:roseglassI had two summer babies before. I can't afford another one!Oh right, I forgot!! DOH! Well, then, may both of our TTC journeys be short and sweet when we get down to the business (quite literally, I might say :giggle: )... No more summer babies, eh? I'd love one, being how I have me a December baby...

Melissa...praying for David's man babies to ask for directions this time!

Welcome Kika! Good luck.. and I agree, I think I'd look into getting in with a Dr. that is more understanding...:)

Melissa...praying for David's man babies to ask for directions this time!

:woot: Me to!!! The :asshat2: 's didn't last time!! :lol:

(I love these two smilies so I had to find a way to use them! :lol: )

Feb. 3rd

Cycle Buddies
Jayne CD5 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Haydee CD8 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Jackie CD18 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD20 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Kika CD21 10DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Tabitha CD22 8DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD26 10DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD29 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jolene CD36

:woot: Me to!!! The :asshat2: 's didn't last time!! :lol:

(I love these two smilies so I had to find a way to use them! :lol: )

:lol2:

somebody's charts look amazing......:whistle: Tab and Melissa :whistle:

Happy Saturday everybody!

I took my temp at 5am, 2 hours earlier than I usually do. I just woke up early and had to pee (sorry, TMI) really bad. My temp was 97.6. Seems weird. I laid in bed till 7am, but never fell back to sleep. I took it again at 7am and it was 98.3. Very strange...I had no idea it could fluctuate so much. It will be interesting to see what it is tomorrow.

All in all, this fluctuations are great to know now so I know what to expect later.

Maybe it went up because you didn't have a complete 3 hours of rest.:dunno: Very odd though. I agree.

Yes, my body is odd indeed! I am curious though about something. For those of you who have consulted a doctor about TTC, has your doctor recommended temping and charting? And if so, have any of your doctors ever asked about your findings?

I guess I am wondering if a fertility specialist would ever be interested in this data, like to evulate if I O'd? Or if my temps suggest a hormonal imbalance? Or is this info simply for my own use...like timing BDing?

Thanks!

My doctor has never asked for the information. I just volunteer the info. Although my charts don't reveal anything that they haven't already discovered or tested me for..I just like for them to understand how important it is for me to get pg and as quickly as possible. Now for those who may have irregular periods or other "issues" going on it may be different and/or more important to share.

Did I make any sense at all?? :scratch: :dunno:

I brought my temp charts in when I first meet with my fertility doctor. He looked at them but it didn't really change my treatment plan.

Amanda

Yes, that makes perfect sense. I think part of the reason my doctor doesn't take my concerns seriously is because I am not trying to conceive. So it makes sense that bringing in or sharing your charting info would make the doctor reason how serious you are, if not also offer some insight into whether you are possibly not ovulating.

I am curious whether my doctor would be receptive to the info...I am sure she is getting tired of my whining :boohoo:. LOL.

I do kind of wish I had charted when I younger and positive I was ovulating. I would love to compare those charts to what I find today.

I am running out now to do errands. I am sure the stores are a mad house with the SB tomorrow. And the wind chill is -23 degrees. I detest winter!

Kika: I bet Chicago is full of party energy!! Are you going to watch the SB tomorrow? I am actually routing for both teams...partly cause I have always loved Da Bears and partly cause I love Dungy. If Dungy could have coached Da Bears it would have been perfect. Either way I win tomorrow! ;)

We are struggling to be full of energy. It's so cold! But I grew up a Chicago Bears fan. I watched the last Super Bowl when I was eleven and it was wonderful! Now my son is eleven, I can't believe it...Anyway, my mom is the biggest Chicago Bear fan ever...and tomorrow is her 52nd birthday. They have to win as a b-day present to their biggest fan!:cheer:

I hope your mom has a wonderful birthday!!!! I hope they win it for her!

Feb. 4th

Cycle Buddies
Jayne CD6 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Haydee CD9 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Jackie CD19 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD21 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Kika CD22 11DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Tabitha CD23 9DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD27 11DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD30 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)
Jolene CD37

My bb's are sooo tender. I am having major cramps. I am a moody bitch. This morning at church I swear I felt like I was going to hurl a few times. My temp did drop a bit this morning. I think AF is on her way. Then again I didn't get a good nights sleep. David woke up around 2:30 crying cause he was having nightmares. So I didn't get good uninterrupted sleep. My temps started falling this time last cycle as well so I am going to go ahead and prepare for AF. :sigh:

Ahh Melissa...

AF had better stay away if she knows was good for her! :lynchmob:

She'll have a forum of women ready to kick her butt!

I am going to pray that she is NOT on the way.

Enjoy what's left of the weekend sweetie.

Thank you so much Kika!! Your post put a smile on my face! :justahug:

:hug99: Melissa, I hope your body is just playing tricks on you.

I hope it's just pregnancy cramps and not AF!

Amanda

Thanks girls!! I hope so too.. Guess I'll have a better idea with tomorrow's temp.

Yes, my body is odd indeed! I am curious though about something. For those of you who have consulted a doctor about TTC, has your doctor recommended temping and charting? And if so, have any of your doctors ever asked about your findings?

I guess I am wondering if a fertility specialist would ever be interested in this data, like to evulate if I O'd? Or if my temps suggest a hormonal imbalance? Or is this info simply for my own use...like timing BDing?

Thanks!

Kika, when I visited my gyno for a pre-TTC consultation, she gave me charts in hard copy and told me to start temping (that's the first time ever I heard about temping!). She told me to temp for at least 3 months as she will use the charts to determine whether or not I ovulate and whether or not my LP is long enough. She's quite ok with it to start testing after 3 months TTC if that's what I want. (But I have mentioned in a previous post that there is a huge difference in medical attitudes across countries. In SA we don't suffer - you go to the doc or pop pills and if there's something to make you feel better right now, you do it right now! That's why I personally would find another doc if I were you. What's the use in keeping up TTC if you know upfront you have medical complications?).

I haven't been to see her yet, so I can't say whether or not she'll be using the charts. We decided to keep trying till April (due to insurance reasons) and then go back to her to check out my charts and decide what to do from there.

But you're right, wish I had known about this stuff when I was still young(er). (Although I don't think my mom knows about it even though she's in her late 50s!). Something I will definitely educate dd on when the time is right.

My bb's are sooo tender. I am having major cramps. I am a moody bitch. This morning at church I swear I felt like I was going to hurl a few times. My temp did drop a bit this morning. I think AF is on her way. Then again I didn't get a good nights sleep. David woke up around 2:30 crying cause he was having nightmares. So I didn't get good uninterrupted sleep. My temps started falling this time last cycle as well so I am going to go ahead and prepare for AF. :sigh:

:hug99: Good luck Melissa! I read a very good quote over the weekend and memorised it, specifically to give to you guys. "Love is that condition in which the happiness of another is crucial to your own". If God is the ultimate example of love, then your happiness is ultimately important to Him.

What's up Tabitha? Any news?

Amanda: checked your chart but it seems you're still waiting... and waiting.... and waiting....

Question (off the topic): With Valentines day coming up next week Wed (is Valentines day on the 14th of Feb all over the world? - Getting some cultural education on this forum as well!), I would like to spoil dh a bit. He's been putting up with a lot of *&^%^ from me! And we decided to take turns each year to take the initiative of doing something special on V day.

DD is going away this coming weekend with the ex-in-laws (what we call the family on her late mother's side - btw - imagine having 3 in-laws!!! It's a nightmare! We have to deal with the family on her late mom's side as well as her biological father's side.) To get back to the point. Any creative ideas on spoiling dh? I could buy him tickets to the cricket - there is actually an international match in our city on V day and he loves cricket! (Where's Deb and the other Australians and New-Zealanders??? We're getting ready for cricket world cup and gave Pakistan a hiding in the ODI's. We now have two records of the highest totals for ODI's, the highest ever against Australia and the third against Pakistan).

So I'm wavering between doing something over the weekend when dd is away or getting him cricket tickets? Or maybe both? But then, what do I do over the weekend?

Haydee, you are so very right. I told my BF this morning that I will teach my daughter all about her body with the hope that she understands it and embraces it. If fertility truly declines slightly as we age, and as each generation delays motherhood further into their 30's, I think the knowledge will be invaluable. Many women start charting after they have ttc for a few months without success. I know few that chart just to understand their bodies better. But when I think back, it would have been wonderful to chart (for example) after the birth of my babies. I was breastfeeding and had no idea when my periods/ovulation would return. Charting would definitely have offered some insight.

The sex ed that we receive really only skims the surface...I admit I knew very little about my body in my early 20's...And I went to one of the top engineering schools in the world... Even after a year or two of taking the pill, I didn't completely understand that regulated hormones and it suppressed ovulation...I can chuckle at my ignorance now (looking back, my lack of understanding floors me to be frank), but it was not funny at all when I learned I was pregnant for the first time. I was away at college and completely petrified.

Wow, I am going to a tangent here. Bottom line, I completely agree with you. When the time is right, I can't wait to teach my daughter all about it.

On a side note, I actually read somewhere that in the future, egg freezing will probably become almost routine as it becomes more affordable. I don't know if it believe that, as I don't think the technology has been perfected yet, but wouldn't it be great? You freeze your eggs at 23, and suddenly age becomes less of an issue for conceiving.

Haydee: Hmm...what would the weekend plan be? Are do you considering doing something as a surprise while he is away? Versus tickets to the game?

Or would you being doing either one as a surprise?

I know my BF is a big fan of sports, but he likes the romantic stuff too. Which does your dh prefer?

My BF is a dear friend that I have known for 16+ years. We knew each other in college, and dated briefly then. He lives in another town where I will be relocating to by the summer. Anyway, I cannot see him on V-day (and yes, it's Feb 14th here too) but I am flying there as a surprise on the 16th. I have a long weekend because of Presidents' Day. Once I am there, I am finally going to watch him play soccer! I am very excited. I am also making reservations at his favorite restaurant and maybe a spa so he can be spoiled after the soccer game.

So I am doing the surprise thing...the terrible thing about surprises is I cannot keep a secret! I am bursting to keep it inside. Especially since his is bummed out about travelling for work...And he is sad b/c he thinks he has to go 4 weeks without seeing me...but he will see me in 11 days and doesn't know it!!

Hopefully thats just an implantation dip and implantation cramps Melissa :crossfing:

What's up Tabitha? Any news?



No news yet. I'm still waiting on my PG tests strips to arrive if I need them before AF shows up. Yesterday morning I had small little stabbing pains in my ovaries and they weren't cramps, so I have no clue. I normally get cramps by now not those little pains. I was doing dishes yesterday morning but had to keep sitting down because of the way the pains were and I felt alot of pressure I guess bloatedness in my lower belly. I don't know, I guess we will see in a few days whats up.

Jolene's CD6 by the way!

Temps looking good so far Tabs. Good luck!!! Thought after that early 8DPO +, you may be tempted to test early again!

Great plans to look forward to Kika!! I also love the surprise stuff!

I should probably get the cricket tickets and then make up my mind what we're going to do over the weekend. We have to do something! It's not always that we have a weekend off (with dd away) in the middle of the term.

Temps looking good so far Tabs. Good luck!!! Thought after that early 8DPO +, you may be tempted to test early again! I'm still waiting on my PG tests to arrive. I ordered 25 of them from saveontests.com it was $10.25 plus $2.99 to ship, they shipped them out last Monday so I'm hoping they should be here today :crossfing:

Tabitha, have you been tested for PCOS? I can't remember if I have asked you this before. I get those type of pains when my ovaires go polycystic.

Tabitha, have you been tested for PCOS? I can't remember if I have asked you this before. I get those type of pains when my ovaires go polycystic. No I haven't.

Tabitha, have you been tested for PCOS? I can't remember if I have asked you this before. I get those type of pains when my ovaires go polycystic. Darn it, :lol: I thought maybe that was a good sign since I had a major pain back in Dec. when I got PG. I guess theres no more hoping now then :mope:

Fingers crossed Tabitha and Melissa!
I'm still waiting. And waiting. And getting frustrated and annoyed. I hate this!!!
Valentine's Day is February 14th around the world. It sounds like you have a nice plan either way!

Amanda

:hug99: Amanda

Thanks Deb. I just wish this weren't such an ordeal every time. I guess if we only wanted one child, it would have been easier! :lol:

Amanda

Darn it, :lol: I thought maybe that was a good sign since I had a major pain back in Dec. when I got PG. I guess theres no more hoping now then :mope:

:lol: I didn't mean it that way. Even with my PCOS I had those pains on pregnant cycles too, so it's not a bust, just curious to whether you ever got tested, might explain alot of things if you are. :nod:

Thanks Deb. I just wish this weren't such an ordeal every time. I guess if we only wanted one child, it would have been easier! :lol:

Amanda

:lol: yeah I know. I used to have stupid 55 day cycles, it SUCKED, some people would be at the end of their 2nd cycle before I even finished my first. I hated it too!

Wow a bunch of chatty cathy's at night! :lol:

Tabitha: Thanks for letting me know about Jolene. How did you know?? Is she charting somewhere else as well?

Haydee: Not sure what cricket is but I say go for it!! It will be a nice surprise for him. Then for the weekend plan a romantic picnic (not sure what the temps are there) and where something sexy. :brow: That way you can have a night of pleasure where it's not on demand.

Amanda: :hug99: I am so sorry that you are still waiting. I hope the wait is over soon.

I think I touched base with everything. :scan:

Feb. 5th

Cycle Buddies
Jolene CD6
Jayne CD7 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Haydee CD10 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Jackie CD20 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD22 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Kika CD23 12DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Tabitha CD24 10DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD28 12DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD31 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)

Holy temp spike Tabitha!!! :wow:

Wow a bunch of chatty cathy's at night! :lol:


Haydee: Not sure what cricket is but I say go for it!! It will be a nice surprise for him. Then for the weekend plan a romantic picnic (not sure what the temps are there) and where something sexy. :brow: That way you can have a night of pleasure where it's not on demand.

:scan:

Sounds like a very good idea!! Cricket in SA is what baseball is in the US. It's also bat and ball, but other than that very different. Cricket is a big sport in Australia (current world record champs), New Zealand, England and the Middle East. (Excuse the geography lesson, but I'm a cricket fanatic!).

The temps here are always great (we never get snow). It's mid-summer now so temps range from 28C-32C which I believe is 82.4F-89.6F. Our winter temps average 15C or 59F. Very good idea....indeed....

That is nice weather Haydee! I'm jealous!!! It's COLD here.

Amanda

The temps here are always great (we never get snow). It's mid-summer now so temps range from 28C-32C which I believe is 82.4F-89.6F. Our winter temps average 15C or 59F. Very good idea....indeed....

I am truly jealous. I am laying in bed looking at my weather at weather.com. It is currently -15F. Actual temp. The wind chill is -34F. Yuck. I think my kids will NOT be standing on the bus stop this morning.

Enjoy your game of cricket with the hubby!

Believe it or not, but we actually envy the snow countries! Snow for one day will really be awesome! My dd has never seen snow or build a snowman. The last time we had snow on our side of the world was when I was 6 years old. There is snow on the mountain tops in other provinces (like other states?) in SA, but it's very far to travel and by the time you get there, it may have already melted!

2 pages of posts??? :woa: you ladies have been busy!!!

Tab, your chart looks great!

Melissa.....your chart looks good, too.. If I remember correctly, when your temps go down, they go DOWN..so the fact that it's plateauing...maybe that's a good sign?

I was thinking the same thing this am when I saw my temp. :crossfing OH I hope this is it!!!

Tabitha: Thanks for letting me know about Jolene. How did you know?? Is she charting somewhere else as well?



Yes, she is, I do the stat list at TOP place. She just doesn't always update so sometimes I have to ask her.


My temp jump wasn't accurate :lol: I punched in the wrong number this morning, I just went and looked to see what you all were talking about and it's only suppose to be 98.01 not 98.41 :lol: Sorry about that. I have to go change it now :duh:

:lol: I didn't mean it that way. Even with my PCOS I had those pains on pregnant cycles too, so it's not a bust, just curious to whether you ever got tested, might explain alot of things if you are. :nod: Oh ok, I thought it might of been over for me :lol:

It's still a pretty good jump!! ;)

Hopefully this is our lucky cycle!!!! When are you testing? I wanted to test after my tests arrive which I thought for sure would of been today :mope:

I am not sure. AF is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Depends on what my temp is when I wake up. If it's up then I may temp tomorrow..:dunno:

Tab...pssst...that's what the Dollar Store if for...

It was cheaper to go thru saveonline.com because I'm getting 25 tests :heee: for $10.25. I am sooooooooo thinking of stoping tomorrow after we get our taxes done if they aren't here by tomorrow :heee:

well Tab, I just meant 1 to tie you over until your big pile of online ones arrives :lol: . This will probably just be Murphy's law..after you get a bundle, you will find yourself pregnant LOL :lol2:..of course then you can just sell them off to the rest of us :)

Thats true :lol: but then maybe I might be testing to early too :scratch: I hope not though. We'll just have to wait and see what my temps are like tomorrow I guess :heee:

Thanks for my nice VDay card, Melissa :)

Good luck Tabitha and Melissa!!!! I'm really, really hoping for a few BFPs here this week!

Amanda

Feb. 6th

Cycle Buddies
Jolene CD7
Jayne CD8 Jayne's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ced)
Haydee CD11 Haydee's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/176004)
Jackie CD21 Jackie's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a3d3c)
Melody CD23 Melody's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1274ff)
Kika CD24 13DPO Kika's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18779b)
Tabitha CD25 11DPO Tabitha's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2c61)
Melissa CD29 13DPO Melissa's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/86cba)
Amanda CD32 Amanda's Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1501d)

Temp still same. :eek:

My fingers are crossed for you :hug99:

HOORAY!!! I'm hoping for you Melissa!!!
My temp went up this morning but I'm not convinced that I O'ed yet....

Amanda

Good luck Melissa and Tabitha...my prayers are with the both of you!!!

Melissa, your chart is looking great... it's so unnerving taking that morning temp when you're this many DPOs. Fingers crossed for you.

Tabitha, your temp went up again - excellent! Now, what time does your mail get there? :awink:

:popcorn: :vibes:

wow, Melissa......i've got goosebumps just looking at your chart! When do your temps usually drop, what DPO?

They usually start dropping by 12 or 13 DPO.. :eek:

Soo... Melissa... how are you feeling (physically - we can guess how you're feeling emotionally!)

I must go to work now...but I am excited for both of you...I feel like I am in 8th grade and can't sit still! Woohoo!

I am sooooo tired. My bb's are killing me. DH says they look bigger. (do they swell when AF is coming?) I have some minor cramping going on..but not really AF like. :dunno: Not sure how much info you are looking for..cause I have a couple other things that may be considered TMI. :blush:Let me know..:giggle:

When are the big test dates????
Impatient people want to know!

Amanda

Wow Ladies! Your charts look fab! Mama- I remember my bb's were tender - but not really "bigger" before af... so it could be a great sign! Tab! Nice spike! Keep it going, both of you!
Cheers
Jen

Melissa, I remember you saying your bbs were tender last couple of cycles, too, right? So these symptoms, I don't know.....I'd just take them with a grain of salt.. Though Dave never said they were bigger, so maybe we are onto something here? I'm so excited for you, though.. this is a different-looking chart, for sure! usually your temps stay high and then just plummet... I don't want you to get your hopes up, but it does look very promising....

SO, when will you test, Melissa?

Jen how are YOU doing? we want an update from our pregnant and graduated members :)

Praying hard for you Melissa!!!!!!

LOL lyoshka I'm ok. Dealing with having to eat every few hours or risk being sick. Seen the Doc yesterday and he confirmed what I already knew haha but he did give me an early u/s to put my mind at ease - thank goodness. So I am holding out for 8 weeks so I can hopefully see a hb then I will stop worrying it's not in the right place. Other then that, napping lots and having to wear a bra CONSTANTLY I guess I'm not so bad - but then again the weather is still cold here.... so ask me that question in the summer! HAH!
Jen

I am not sure when I will test. Tomorrow marks 14DPO..maybe then??? :dunno:Definitely by the weekend if AF stays away!

Jen, good for you! I'm glad things are good! how far along are you now? The bra thing...yeah, I totally HEAR you on that one. Nikita will be 14 months in 2 days and I'm STILL wearing it since we are still nursing... so 14 months in a row! Although, I have to say, I like it. I'm very blessed in that department, so a bra holds things in place nicely :) I haven't really leaked milk since he was maybe 9 months old, so I could probably try sleeping without one...just hate the thought of BM staining stuff.

wow, Melissa, you are really trying to be patient. Good for you!

I have to say, I tested yesterday, though on my end (and it'll probably sound like heresy to most of you here), I was hoping for a BFN. I definitely want another baby, but if we got pg now, our trip to Russia would be scrambled AGAIN, and I just really want to go. So in a few months I'll be a testing freak, but now I just need to lose weight, get my business going more so and plan the trip...then let the BDing begin :) The reason i tested was because I've felt a little nausea here and there and yesterday I felt this tightness in my throat, and I only remember feeling it when i was pg...so I hurried on over to the dollar store and got me a test....BFN it is. I was relieved... just another 3-4 months and then I can jump in here with both feet :)

LOL Lyk - I hear ya! I am 5 weeks and some days now .. not far enough for my liking! Here comes another hot hot hot summer - DD was born Sept 16 03... this one's edd is Oct 4th or 5th *sigh* boy we know to pick the time to bd haha :)

Jen, it's funny because it seems like people always find something to not be happy about when we get pg-i didn't want to deliver in the winter b/c i wasn't sure what coat would cover my whoooooole big beeeeelly...( i ended up wearing DH's coat a lot :lol: ) but in the end, it just doesn't matter as long as you stay pregnant and have a cute little baby come out-ater a short 2 hour labor with no tears (i'm a realist, did I tell you?)

Melissa and Tabitha I hope this it for both of you :crossfing

I've got everything crossed for you guys nearing the end. :pray: Melissa and Tab - if this is truly IT for you, I'll be an absolute puddle of tears of joy. You shouldn't have had to wait this long. :hug99:

LOL Lyk, the only thing we didn't want was a baby born with snow too! (woah just about wrote snot chuckles) That's just because both our birthday's are in December. Well with DD she ended up being born in the middle of a blizzard anyways - in September! HAH.. I just know I'll be a snot bag during the summer months, Last time I didn't talk to DH for a week it was so hot and I was so mad because HE DID THIS TO ME.. lol.. have to love preggo brains :)

Jen, that is too funny! I see not talking to DH during delivery, but before? :lol2: Where are you at that you get blizzards in September??

I'm in Alberta Canada... it sucked.. first big snowfall of the year and I was stuck lying down LOL

My tests still haven't arrived :sigh:

When did you order them Tabitha???

Amanda

AF still hasn't arrived and no sign so far! :bliss: Keep it up!!! :bliss:

Melissa, I am praying so hard for you This just has to be it!!!

Tabitha, go to the dollar store! I can't believe they haven't arrived yet.

Melissa, :woo: - so glad to hear that.

Would somebody test already???

:lol:

Amanda

I know, right? Would somebody test already!?????

I will let you guys in on a secret. Come closer: :secret: I tested this am.....


























.......but got a bfn.

Sorry!! I am in one of those moods today! :silly:

I think it is just to soon to test for you Melissa. I really think this is your time!!!

Wait, so did you test or not? Woman!! If you didn't test and are just being kooky with us, I swear, i will beat you up!

Me too Jayne.

Lena: Yes I did test this morning...but got a bfn. I expected it....sort of. I am going to wait a few more days and see what my temps do.

I sooo hope this is it!! Still no sign of AF. Something else I noticed today. Usually before AF shows...I break out like a teenager. I don't have any zits. :scan:

Ok, I won't beat you up...but only because I love you. (but I can't believe you held out on us that you tested!)
Your symptoms look promising. Pregnancy was very kind to my face and hair, so hopefully, this is what is going on with you, dear!! What test did you use, I wonder if it's not sensitive enough?
when are you going to test again?

It was a lapse in judgment. It will never happen again! I promise! :lol: I just figured I didn't have good news to share..so why share? KWIM?
I used a generic test this morning. Not sure what levels it detects. I have a brand new box of FR under the cabinet. Next test will be with one of them.

I'll probably wait a couple more days and see what my temps do. If they continue to be up..I'll probably test say Thursday or Friday. Again, depends on what my temps do. I am trying not to waste tests. I'm still not 100% convinced that this is it yet.

TOTALLY understandable! Just doesn't do much for my impatience :lol: !

....and you are being silly if you think no good news is a reason not to share your news...

Please Forgive Me!!!! :bowdown:

okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay..:lol2:

:bliss: Thank you! :queen:

you two are cracking me up! :lol:

Alright, Melissa....hourly symptom/how-ya-feelin' update please :popcorn: chop-chop!!

Same! :bowdown: Please don't beat me!! :lol:

No signs of what's-her-name? please say no please say no...

Not even a little peep. ;)

:bliss:

...we need a pacing smilie....and more impatient smilies...and we need them NOW. :hehe:

:tapfoot: Like these?:waiting:

Stacey, yeah, but those are angry.. i want more just impatient and not angry :hehe:

:lol: yeah. there used to be a pace one. I like this one :popcorn: