Hi ladies, it's July 1st and time for a new thread. I wish luck for us all in these next few months! :clap:

I'm a bit busy as my mom is visiting, but I will update and post everyone's cycling status soon.

Kim

:woo: I'm first!

Well, DH and I have decided to give it another try, and we'll be starting IVF number 6 next month. We almost jumped in this month (the one benefit of being completely out-of-pocket on this stuff is that you don't need permissions and approvals), but I know that I need to be as stress-free as possible for this, and so next month will be better (The main difficulty right now is my 16-year-old nephew who is staying with us and needs my full attention. I love him dearly, but he is uphill work...).

Unless of course, I'm pregnant already, which is TECHNICALLY possible, but would be a miracle. As long as I bought my ticket, the lottery could come through...meanwhile, continue to work hard to earn our real chance.

Anyway, Happy Fourth of July weekend, and good luck to us all.
- Leslie

Hello everyone!!!

Thank you Kim, for keeping us updated throughout this new journey :hug99:

It sure feels good to know this is a new beginning for many of us, cycling in the next three months. :secret: I just want to send tons of positive vibes, lots of prayers and wish for all to bring :bfp:s to this new thread...

Very grateful to have you all:grouphugg

Vyonne

PS Happy 4th of July weekend

Hi everyone.....

DH & I go Friday for our IVF consult, signing of papers, injection class and so forth. We decided to buy one package containing one cycle with fresh embyros and one with frozen. I suppose we will start injections sometime the week of the 10th. Not sure. We will get the calendar of timing on Fri the 7th. I'm trying to prepare my mind to be positive. I am looking forward to the journey nonetheless. Has anyone incorporated acupuncture? Does it help? Well, here goes everything.
I am happy to have you ladies to look to.

Baby vibes to all of us.
:grouphugg (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
Jennifer

Looks like this will be a pretty active group!!

Kim thanks for starting this for us!

Vyonne - great to see your news ending us on a high note in the last thread - continued good news wishes for us all!

Leslie - glad you guys have made your decision - I agree with you that waiting for the less stressful time is a good decision.

Jen - You are officially on your way then. I have done accupuncture for all my cycles (IUI's all BFN & 2 IVF - one sucessfull in attaining pregnancy and one not) I would say if you can swing it timewise and $ wise it is worth at least trying as I find that it helps to keep my calm during the cycle which is pretty tough to do sometimes!

Haley hope things are going well!

As for me, for the July FET cycle, Friday was officially CD1 per the assigned schedule from the lab. ET will be July 18th and first vampire visit is actually tommorow - what a way to kick off the holiday huh? Treck to the clinic and get stuck? Oh well it will assure we get up early and hopefully enjoy the nice weather!

Vyonne, so glad to see that you have gotten some good news. A day brightener for all of us! :hug99:

Judy, :woo: for getting this cycle started!!

Jennifer, glad to hear you are trying to keep a positive mindset. :nod:

Leslie, you are making a smart choice waiting for a less stressful time to start the next cycle. Will your nephew be gone then?

Kim, thanks for kicking off the July/Aug/Sept cycles, when I will actually be cycling this time!! :lol:

Suzi, how are you doing? :hug99:
Hi everyone else:wavey: Hope all is well. As for me, I am getting geared up for my first cycle! We drove up to DC last week and DH gave his contribution, to be frozen since he'll be deployed. We stayed in the hotel behind the hospital. It's a military hospital and the hotel's mission is to house wounded soldiers. It was sobering to see so many YOUNG men with amputations going about daily life in the hotel. My appointment is on July 24, so I'll be driving up solo this time. I have to remember to bring a big tote bag for all of my meds. I have to go to injection class that day too. I'm ready!! Gonna kick some infertility butt! :box:

Happy Fourth to all!!

Hey Haley........I like your style girl.........go get em:dude: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Jennifer

Leslie, Your decision to wait until next month, sounds very wise :nod:. I´ve never incorporated accupuncture in my treatments, but I have always heard very positive things about it, as it helps you relax (ask Kim).
On another token, how long is your nephew due to stay with you? :secret:I know teenagers can be a hand full. August is around the corner anyway! By the way... Miracles do happen :pray: :hug1:


Jen, Best of luck, hon! A positive mind is the first ingredient on the road to IVF :hug99:


Judy, It was nice for a change to have some good news :nod: May the trend continue :pray:
:wow: , ET already for July 18th :woa:??? My thoughts and prayers are with you, sweetie :hug99:

Haley, Thank you for sharing my joy :bighug:! It sure feels good :thumbsup:
Congrats on your upcoming IVF start! It sure sounds like you are very ready to kick some infertility:booty::lol: You go girl!!!
PS It is really sad your comment about all those young men with amputations... God bless their souls :tear:

Vyonne

So here goes. . .please correct me, if I have incorrect information here or if I've missed anyone:

Dana-:sadhug:Sending her our love and prayers

Vyonne-Starting meds in 3 weeks, possible DE ET Aug. 16 :banana:
Haley-Pre-cycle waiting period. Dr. Appointment on July 24 :thumbsup:
Leslie-Going forward with IVF#6 :yippee:
Judy-AF arrived! Possible ET July 18 :rahrah:

Jennifer-Go for IVF consult, possibly start injections week of 7/10 :crossfing

Dawnie2-Waiting for 3 day blood work :)

Kristen-Waiting to have FSH testing :sunny:
CarlaG-Possible August retrieval :ura1:
Geri-Recovering after Lap, possible IVF in September :crossfing
Kim-Doing insurance required testing, possible DE ET in August :ura1:
Andrea-:bfp: :knitting:
Kerri-:bfp: :heart: :heart:

I wish all the best for us in the coming months. :grouphugg At the very least, we all know we have tons of support, understanding, and a place to come for questions and concerns. :clap:

Jennifer~I've been doing acupuncture for years. I feel a bit silly telling you that it works when I myself haven't had a succesful pregnancy. However, I can tell you how much is out there as far as statistics and studies are concerned that show that acupuncture is clearly beneficial when going through IVF treatments. So much so, that many IVF clinics are starting to add them for their patients. At my clinic, when you have an IVF, you can schedule a treatment right before and right after a transfer. Whether or not your IVF is succesful, acupuncture is beneficial to help with tolerance and side effects of the drugs, relaxation, blood flow, and overall better emotional health. If you can afford it, I'd suggest to definitely do it.

Judy and I met each other. :ura1: :clap: We had such a nice time getting to know one another and chit chatting. What a sweet woman! We should all feel lucky that we have one another.

Kim

Judy is the best! I agree!

Jennifer- I did acupuncture for about six months before and during the IVF treatment. I will also continue through my first trimester. My acupuncturist like to give herself credit for the fact that we are having twins! :lol:

Hey all, Just popping in to give you all my support and best wishes. Let's see some more BFP's very soon!

Awww thanks Kerri :blush1:

Kim and I really had a nice time on our appetizer fest :thumbsup: and I'm looking forward to when we can do it again but have to skip the wine because of our BFPs!!:awink: We really are truely blessed to have all found each other. I think we could have sat there for hours more had we not had time constraints.

Geri! I had meant to post in the other thread - so good to see you!

Haley - so exciting to see you getting geared up for starting your cycle!! :ura1: I think it will go quickly for you! I think we all (at least I know I do) need reminders to really understand the impact on all the men and women serving right now.


Hello to all.

Had my first b/w yesterday and all was good. I go back Saturday for another draw. I'm a little nervous about accu, the woman I regularly see is on maternity leave and the woman covering for her isn't as experienced I don't think..but, what do I really know. I do still find that deep relaxation so I guess she is doing at least something right!

Judy-Awesome that your getting started on your FET. Everything crossed and prayers!!!!!

Kim-Great news! A possible start in Aug! Hoping all your paperwork and insurance goes through quick for you! How nice you and Judy can get together, sounds like you had a great time, praying next time its to celebrate BFP's sans wine!

Kerri-I'm so dense I just saw your twin news! Congrats x 2!!!!

Gotta Run time flys.....
Praying all of the ladies here have BFP's in the very near future! Sorry I didnt do a personal for every body but I just saw the time!
Baby Dust Wishes and Love, Ladies!
Andrea

Had my first b/w yesterday and all was good. I go back Saturday for another draw.
Judy, It´s so great you are officially started :thumbsup: Best of luck in the whole procedure and my prayers are with you to bring us our first BFP of this thread :pray: :bighug:

Ang, Thank you, sweetie!
So thrilled with your :pteddy: :bteddy: news!!! :bighug:

Andrea, Thank you for your prayers, hon! Take good care of your little bean :bighug:

Kim, Hoping the paper work goes smoothly, so you can get started ASAP and we can be cycle buddies :ura1:
Sounds like your meeting with Judy went great, :secret: I must confess I am a little envious :lol: cause there´s nothing like a good :blahblah:chit chat with a close girlfriend and a little wine :toast:! Wouldn´t it be great to one day plan something like a IVF BUDDIES CONVENTION, and pick a place like Vegas to have our first one, and annually move from state to state :redflower Boy, we´d have a blast :awink:

Vyonne

Thank you Vyonne!! WE ARE SO EXCITED!!

PS. I am totally in for a IVF buddies convention. I think it is an awesome thought! We deserve it too!!

Kerri - Congrats on the :hb: :hb: so happy for you!!

Vyonne, great news!!

Kim - its great that you are starting again.

I hope everyone else's waiting time goes fast.

As for me I got AF last week but it only lasted 2 days! I am shocked! Spoke to RE and they told me to wait until next month and see what happens.

Very disappointed - but can wait.

Dawn

Wouldn´t it be great to one day plan something like a IVF BUDDIES CONVENTION, and pick a place like Vegas to have our first one, and annually move from state to state :redflower Boy, we´d have a blast :awink:

Vyonne

I'm in on that trip!

Dawn-Sucks that you got pushed back another month, Praying that next month is the month for your BFP!

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Originally Posted by Vyonne Rousel
Wouldn´t it be great to one day plan something like a IVF BUDDIES CONVENTION, and pick a place like Vegas to have our first one, and annually move from state to state :redflower Boy, we´d have a blast :awink:

Vyonne

I'm in on that trip!

PS. I am totally in for a IVF buddies convention. I think it is an awesome thought! We deserve it too!!
:woo: Great to know that its something that would get considered! I am so excited :ura1: , so lets make it come through in the months to come...

Dawn, Thank you, sweetie :hug99: Oh, I am so sorry to hear about your delay... I know you were so looking forward to getting started, however, 1 month is not too long to wait and :secret: I´m sure it will be your month!

Suzi, How are you doing, luv? Miss ya :hug99:

Vyonne

Lots of us to be cycling soon, and that's great! And Vegas? I'm so there...

Here's my 2cents on accupuncture: anything that will help to de-stress and relax is a good thing (and encouraged by my doctor). But accupuncture totally wouldn't work for me, especially during an IVF cycle when I get quite enough of needles already, thank you! Massage or spa treatsments help some to relax as well, but again, not for me...the decrease in stress of the massage is overbalanced by the increased stress of strangers touching me. I like long walks in natural places, listening to or playing music...but whatever works for you is good and will help the process.

I will be taking DN (dear nephew) home next week, having bludgeoned him thoroughly with reading and SAT prep work. Then a couple of weeks of working madly to get projects finished (and billed for) before the cycle. AF will dictate the dates.

Good baby luck to one and all.
-Leslie

Hey all! I'm super busy at work these days but I wanted to stop by and send lots and lots of baby dust to everyone. I'm praying for lots more BFPs here!!!

Amanda

Hello Ladies

What a day!! This morning the SA was suppose to be in at 1030. DH & I had a small argument which caused a sort of mental block for him to perform this AM.:angrywife (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) So in all my anger of course I had to help. :fado: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) I hate being late. Nonetheless we made it to the RE office just in time for our IVF consult at 1100. At this time, I have a bit of information overload between the financing, all of those injections, (that's alot of injections) why are DH & I arguing at a time like this & so on. That is the last thing I need.
We don't have all of the bloodwork results for DH & my yearly pap result is running behind. We are suppose to start the Lupron on the 14th of July. If the RE doesn't have those in order by then, we have to keep on BCP for another 10 days. I don't want to delay, but what can I do?:complain: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
I'm feeling like DH doesnt' really understand what is going on and what is about to happen and how much timing is SO important. I've been briefing him with information for over a year now, so it's not like he just found out. It seems as though he is missing a sensitivity chip. Or maybe I'm just overreacting & a little scared.:dunno: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Vyonne~~I thought of you this morning when the Lab lady asked me if DH had trouble performing on command, because we were running late. She suggested I should freeze it, just in case for a small fee. All of these "WHAT IFS" passed through my brain. Then you & your DH came to mind concerning the appendicitis. Would your advice be to go ahead and freeze some, JUST IN CASE? I think I know the answer, but please humor me a little.

I've been preparing myself for this day for some time & it just didn't unfold as I thought it would. I was so excited last night until our misunderstanding.

Any how waiting for results and loan docs until then......

Baby Dust to all of us.

Jennifer:redflower (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Jen, I am so sorry about all your "problems" today... :secret: but please, don´t forget that men are from a different planet and DON´T have the sensitivity chip we are blessed with :lol: However, its not an excuse and think DH needs a little :slap: just to be remindedof what IVF is all about and how important is your state of mind :nod:. Sometimes, the tension these treeatments bring, is what causes couples to :catfight:more than usual (specially the first time around), so don´t feel badly, as I´m sure many of us have gone through a few of them in our journey.

:fyi:, just because my DH NEVER had a problem "performing on command" is that reason we were overly confident... and look what happened :disbelief with his appendix :complain:!!! Of course now we already have gone to the lab and they already have his precious sample in the North Pole waiting :lol: so we´ll never have to undergo the anguish we last had.

I sure hope and :pray: that you´ll get everything you need on time, so that you don´t have to wait any longer... but if you don´t, just think is only a few more days, that will fly by!

A little advice? Don´t get today spoil your excitement... this is just the beginning :bighug:

Amanda, You are so thoughtful...:kiss:

:help2:Question: Has anyone ever heard or used the Viagra Suppositories (vaginally) to aid with their endo response??? My RE is thinking about using them on me this upcoming cycle to better my endo response... just in case:dunno:

Vyonne

Just checking in and sharing my story.

Our donor egg cycle went just as flawlessly as could be. 15 eggs Retrieved, 12 fertilized and on day 3 of them were still happily growing. By day 5 we had only two blasts. I believed that to be a blessing - if the cycle was a success,we wouldn't have to worry about 'extra' embryos.

A week and a day after our transfer I got my first beta. It was positive. I cried tears of joy. My husband and I thanked God for this most perfect gift. The next day I was exhausted. A good sign I thought, I felt the same way during my first pregnancy.

Monday was the second beta. I was optimistic. Very optimistic. By 2:30 I still hadn't heard from the doctors. I called DH and asked him to do it for me. He said he would. He told me to go upstairs and rest.

Shortly after that he came home. 'You miscarried this weekend' he said. The doctors had already called him, he was just working up the courage to come home and tell me.

It hurts so bad. I know I am so blessed to have a child from our first IVF. I am somewhat blessed that the pregnancy ended so quickly. I'm just so sad. I know it was 'just' a chemical pregnancy. I am in so much pain.

It hurts so bad. I know I am so blessed to have a child from our first IVF. I am somewhat blessed that the pregnancy ended so quickly. I'm just so sad. I know it was 'just' a chemical pregnancy. I am in so much pain.

Dana, there is no such thing as "Just" a chemical for us who deal with IF. Every chance we are given is special and we all hope it results in a baby at the end. When it doesnt we still need to grieve. I wish I could give you a big hug and take away your pain, dont invalidate your grief because of an early chemical. You do deserve to grieve this, in order to move on. Take care of yourself, your in my thoughts and prayers. :sadhug:

Sending Love your way,
Andrea

Dana, There aren´t enough words to express my sorrow :tear: specially, when we know DE cycles are supposed to upper our chances... so when everything goes so well, we fly up high with excitement, therefore the fall will be greater if something goes wrong. I agree with Andrea´s words of wisdom when she said: there is no such thing as "Just" a chemical for us who deal with IF. I reach out to you throughout the miles, embrace you dearly and pray that God will give you the serenity to accept this terrible loss with the hope of a new beginning very soon...

Take care and know we are all here for you :sadhug:!

Vyonne

Oh Dana, I am so sorry.

That's almost exactly what happened to me too on my fourth miscarriage. I was sort of braced for the first beta to be negative, and when it was positive we were beyond ecstatic. It just made it further to fall when the bad news came a few days later. And yes, physically it's much easier than losing it a few weeks (or months) later, but the grief is still the grief. I grieve for my four lost pregnancies, and also for the 42 other embryos lost over my five IVF cycles.

Each chance is so hard to achieve that the lost chance is another sadness. My heart goes out to you and your husband, and I wish you all the strength to get through this difficult time.

Leslie

Dana~~

I am sorry for your great loss...I'm sending a big hug for you. I pray you & DH will be at peace with this very soon, however, I know there are no short cuts through grief.
You both are in my thoughts & prayers.

Jennifer:sadhug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Dana~:sadhug: I am so very sorry.

Leslie~I have to agree you regarding acupuncture. It may not be for you if you have anxieties about getting more needles. The same thing happened to me when I first went to acupuncture. I did it about 3 times and stopped because the fear of the needles was causing me so much additional stress. I did go for massage after that, which I truly loved and was very comfortable with. About a year later, I tried a different acupuncturist and she was very gentle and now the needles don't bother me a bit.

Jennifer~Sorry about all the stuff with DH. I agree with Vyonne though in that maybe a good heart to heart is in order. I know in my situation, my husband wants this just as bad as I do and grieves at all of our losses, but at the same time, it took me a while to figure out how he grieves. At first it seemed like he didn't care or understand. After a good talking (and crying) I was able to pull out of him how he feels about all this and how he copes and in the end, I realized it's just as painful to him. We realized that we just have two different ways of coping.

Dawnie2~I've had several AFs that only lasted 2 days. :scratch: The good thing is that they still come like clockwork on the day it's supposed to. I've mentioned it several times to my "western" Drs and they don't act like it's cause for concern. :dunno: However, my acupuncturist always asks me questions about my periods, the color, the amount, the length, etc. and I like that because I think this all should be important. I'm interested in finding out what your RE says about this should it happen again.

Vyonne~Viagara for endo response? Never heard of that but I'd definitely be interested in anything you find out about that so I could mention it to my Dr. Will it make you horney? :lol:

So I got my 3 day blood workd done. :ura1: Originally, I cried when they told me I had to do the Clomid challenge again (because when I've been on Clomid I've had blurred vision and supposedly it thins my lining). So instead, they had me doing something called an Efort test, which in the end, aquires the same information as the Clomid challenge. You go in for bw on day 3, take a stim shot (in my case follistim) and then go back in on day 4. On Wednesday, I will have my sono. So I'm getting there, slowly but surely.

Kim

By the way, I've never been to Las Vegas and have been dying to go. I'm in if something is organized! :thumbsup:

Kim

Vyonne~Viagara for endo response? Never heard of that but I'd definitely be interested in anything you find out about that so I could mention it to my Dr. Will it make you horney? :lol:Kim
Kim, You are so funny :lol2:, I asked my RE the same question and we had a good laugh about it! Anyway, my RE told me that there are several doctors using Viagra now to help with the endo response and that it is showing excellent results. Check out this article... http://haveababy.com/infert/viagra.asp and please give me your feedback :nod:
The only problem I may encounter is that out here they may not have them yet and will have to find a way to get it sent to me from the States ASAP, as I am supposed to start in a couple of weeks :dunno: At first we thought we could introduce te Viagra Pills vaginally, but it turned out they have special suppositories... so I´m praying to find a way to have them sent out on time.

By the way, I've never been to Las Vegas and have been dying to go. I'm in if something is organized! :thumbsup:Kim
:wow: I am so glad to get a good response to my suggested "IVF BUDDIES REUNION". I should be returning back home in October, and will make it my priority to plan this wonderful encounter. :secret: Las Vegas is not only a fun town, but its also inexpensive and the shows & casinos are amazing :yippee:

I am so happy to hear that you have gotten done your 3 day blood work :ura1: That is such a good news, hon :hi5: I wish you all the best and that this upcoming cycle brings you nothing but JOY!!! My thoughts, :hb: & :pray:s are with you sweetie! :bighug:

Vyonne

Kim-Awesome News!!!! Cant wait until you can get your FET rolling! Fingers crossed and praying hard!

Vyonne-I heard something about Viagra to in regards to art (cant open your link cause of business conduct...), and that yes it can increase female libido, better warn DH, he might have a horny monster on his hands (not that he'll mind I bet!).

I have that song in my head "Hey Baby lets go to Vegas!!!!" Should we start a preplanning thread!? I've already looked into cost from my end and Vegas offers great group rates for 4 days and 3 nights! Never been but I have always wanted to this gives me the perfect excuse to go see Wayne Newton! Seriously whats a trip without a Newton Show!

Love and Baby Dust wishes,
Andrea

Dana, I am so sorry! :(



Hello...I lost the thread! :lol: I have my OUAL thread subscriptions page bookmarked and I kept coming over here and there were no new posts in the thread. Tonight it dawned on me that it is no longer Apr/May/June...and JUST MAYBE, there was a new thread!....and here I am! :)

Judy! Good to see you too!!!:)

I had my lap on Monday. I appear to be healing well, though I keep overdoing it on things like picking up my kids or going up and down stairs repeatedly...BAD ME! :lol:

I really need to get my mind focused on my IVF. When I was trying for my boys, I was preparing my body mentally and physically way in advance of any treatments that we did. I had stopped drinking caffeiene for like a year prior....I was saying this Fertility prayer every night without fail.... I started to think about the reasons my IVF cycle last August was a bust and I realized that I wasn't as dilligent on really preparing myself for it... so I have to get my rear in gear and start doing these things again!!!!! I also need to lose 10 more lbs to qualify for the refund program. The lap didn't help that any.... I was up 2 lbs this week from last. UGH!

Dana: :sadhug: I'm so sorry.

Vyonne, if you look back a few IVF threads (it should be Oct/Nov/Dec 2004 or Jan/Feb/Mar 2005, maybe even Jul/Aug/Sept 2004) you should find some things/links (?) I posted about Viagra and lining. I was posting pretty specifically for BrenS (who was having lining trouble but finally delivered twins in November 2005). Hope that helps! :akiss:

Loopy~~~

That refund program you speak of, is weight a big requirement to qualify?? How about age? Do you know the specifics? Are you going through ARC or IntegraMed America?
About medications. If I order my meds all at one time is it possible I will have to order more in the future during my treatment? Is it common for the RE to up your dosage for whatever reason? I appreciate anyone with knowledge of this.

:greenstar (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)Thanks

Jennifer

Dana~~ Thinking of you........

Jennifer, it all depends on how you respond. Your RE has an idea of how you MIGHT respond but until you've used the injectables, it's impossible to be sure. You will get a better idea of where you are as soon as you have your first progress check. just be sure to let the RE or nurses know where you are with your meds if you are getting close.

Vyonne, if you look back a few IVF threads (it should be Oct/Nov/Dec 2004 or Jan/Feb/Mar 2005, maybe even Jul/Aug/Sept 2004) you should find some things/links (?) I posted about Viagra and lining. I was posting pretty specifically for BrenS (who was having lining trouble but finally delivered twins in November 2005). Hope that helps! :akiss:
Suzi, Thanks for tip, but how do I get into old threads :dunno:??? I thought after a while they are gone, b/c I don´t see them around anymore! I´d like to read more about the benefits of using the Viagra. Do you know if BrenS endede up using it for her successful pregnancy?

Andrea, Sorry... I didn´t know how to post the link to be "ready to open" directly from the post. Perhaps you can "cut & paste" into your link window. And as to the Horny Monster... I´m sure he´ll love it :lol: and...:secret: me too!!!

On the Las Vegas deal... a preplanning thread sounds like a great idea. And yes, the group rates are quite low and the fun is endless :yippee:

Vyonne

Vyonne, here is one article: http://www.storknet.com/cubbies/infertility/exgs1.htm

and you can read here: http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/showthread.php?p=268513&highlight=viagra#post268513

We discussed a few things about lining issues back then. Brenda had serious lining issues...several times cancelled. She did not use viagra, she did end up using some herbal tea...she ended up with an amazing lining that cycle and subsequently had two beautiful girls! All the info should be in that thread - let me know if you have trouble finding it.

Loopy~~~

That refund program you speak of, is weight a big requirement to qualify?? How about age? Do you know the specifics? Are you going through ARC or IntegraMed America?
About medications. If I order my meds all at one time is it possible I will have to order more in the future during my treatment? Is it common for the RE to up your dosage for whatever reason? I appreciate anyone with knowledge of this.


The refund program at my RE's office has a list of qualifications. The price goes up with age and it looks like to qualify the patient has to be below 39 years old. It is for 4 fresh cycles or 80% of your money back.

The other qualifications are:

1. CD3 FSH and estridiol levels must be normal
2. CD3 u/s must show at least 12 antral follicles in the ovary
3 CD13 u/s must show uterine lining at at least 8.0 mm thick
4. normal Hysteroscopy
5. female partner must be a non-smoker
6. female partner must have a BMI of less than 30.0
7. A history of an abnormal CD3 FSH is not eligible
8. female partner with a hydrosalpinx is not eligible
9. Couples with 3 or more previous failed IVF are not eligible
10 all records of previous IVF attempts must be analized by the dr
11. Couples with 3 or more miscarriages are not eligible
12. The male partner must have 100,000 motile sperm
13. Couple must be willing to do ICSI, transfer 2 embryos and freeze everything else.


I am not sure if we will use the refund program or not...but in case we do, I need to lose that last 10 lbs to get under the 30.0 BMI. (I actually only have to lose 6 right now, but I want a couple extra lbs off for a cushion) I seriously don't know what to do. The refund program is nearly twice as much as one cycle.... but everything is out of pocket for us. So if we do one cycle and aren't sucessful....we lose money. If we do the refund program and get pg on the first try, we are out money.... :(

Vyonne, here is one article: http://www.storknet.com/cubbies/infertility/exgs1.htm

and you can read here: http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/showthread.php?p=268513&highlight=viagra#post268513

We discussed a few things about lining issues back then. Brenda had serious lining issues...several times cancelled. She did not use viagra, she did end up using some herbal tea...she ended up with an amazing lining that cycle and subsequently had two beautiful girls! All the info should be in that thread - let me know if you have trouble finding it.
Suzi, Thank you :bighug: for the article (quite interesting) and the thread.. my eyes are totally dried out from so much reading :lol: I know treatments out here are so much cheaper for me, but yet, I wish I were back home, b/c I don´t know where the heck I could get some Red Raspberry Leaf Capsules :disbelief (you find nothing out here) and still won´t know if I can get the Viagra Suppositories on time for this cycle! Can´t believe I need so many concoctions:woa:
:secret: I wish I could go to sleep tonight and be pregnant by morning

Vyonne

Vyonne, I wish you could wake up pregnant, too!! Just out of curiosity, where are you? Is "back home" the states?

Just checking in on everyone. Dana, I'm so sorry for your loss. Everyone else, good luck with wherever you are in your cycles. I have been getting terrible migraine headaches lately and I can't read for long on the computer, not to mention how much pain each click of the keyboard causes me. Hopefully my dr. can give me some relief later on today. Anyway, I haven't read back very far so I hope I haven't missed a lot.

Thinking of everyone often...

Suzi, Thank you :bighug: for the article (quite interesting) and the thread.. my eyes are totally dried out from so much reading :lol: I know treatments out here are so much cheaper for me, but yet, I wish I were back home, b/c I don´t know where the heck I could get some Red Raspberry Leaf Capsules :disbelief (you find nothing out here) and still won´t know if I can get the Viagra Suppositories on time for this cycle! Can´t believe I need so many concoctions:woa:
:secret: I wish I could go to sleep tonight and be pregnant by morning

Vyonne

Vyonne, check online, I bet you can find them. If not - and they are something you want to do - I would be happy to get them and send them to you. Just let me know. :bighug:

Rho, Wishful thinking :lol: back home is in the States (California)!
I´m sorry to hear you haven´t been feeling well. Hope your Dr. gives you the relief you need :hug1:
Suzi, I will definitely check online (good idea) later on today. Thank you for your sweet offer to send them to me if I don´t find them :kiss:
Will let you know :nod:

Vyonne

Suzi, Sorry to bother you, but could you please do me a favor?
I am not able to call toll free numbers from here :disbelief. However, I found on the net a pharmacy (Village Fertility Pharmacy) and they have the Viagra Suppositories I need, but do not list prices and only show a toll free number. If you could enter their web page... please read about what they list as side effects for them... its a bit scary :owow: I´d appreciate your opinion on it too.
Could you please CALL 877-334-1610 and find out what would be the cost of 44 units of 25mg each? At least I will know if I can get them on time for my upcoming cycle.

Thank you, sweetie :bighug:

Vyonne

No problem! I will do it in the am...

Suzi, Thanks a bunch, sweetie :hug99:

Vyonne

The refund program at my RE's office has a list of qualifications. The price goes up with age and it looks like to qualify the patient has to be below 39 years old. It is for 4 fresh cycles or 80% of your money back.

The other qualifications are:

1. CD3 FSH and estridiol levels must be normal
2. CD3 u/s must show at least 12 antral follicles in the ovary
3 CD13 u/s must show uterine lining at at least 8.0 mm thick
4. normal Hysteroscopy
5. female partner must be a non-smoker
6. female partner must have a BMI of less than 30.0
7. A history of an abnormal CD3 FSH is not eligible
8. female partner with a hydrosalpinx is not eligible
9. Couples with 3 or more previous failed IVF are not eligible
10 all records of previous IVF attempts must be analized by the dr
11. Couples with 3 or more miscarriages are not eligible
12. The male partner must have 100,000 motile sperm
13. Couple must be willing to do ICSI, transfer 2 embryos and freeze everything else.


am not sure if we will use the refund program or not...but in case we do, I need I to lose that last 10 lbs to get under the 30.0 BMI. (I actually only have to lose 6 right now, but I want a couple extra lbs off for a cushion) I seriously don't know what to do. The refund program is nearly twice as much as one cycle.... but everything is out of pocket for us. So if we do one cycle and aren't sucessful....we lose money. If we do the refund program and get pg on the first try, we are out money.... :(

Loopy

Loopy...I cannot figure out how to get just one paragraph of a quote to quote:scratch: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
In reference to your last paragraph...

I know how mindboggeling it can be when everything is out of pocket. My DH & I are in the same boat. So we've been struggling with the decision to purchase the refund program or just one cycle. It's like a no win situation. So I thought how much is it really worth to me, having a baby. Of course $30,000 is worth it to me to have a child, but then, wow, how about starting motherhood out with all that debt. So I got scared and then just applied a little hope. I'm only 36, active, healthy...why not me on the first try? We decided to go ahead and purchase the one cylce, (one fresh, one frozen, comes in a package) Yes, I think what happens if it doesn't work? But I have to train myself and not think like that. UUggggg!!! It's all so frustrating. BTW, thank you for the information on the quals.
:scan:

We are suppose to start on Lupron the 14th, but BW results are behind on DH and they won't start without. Nontheless, I can wait. I just am so ready to get the ball rolling.

Baby dust to all.........
Jennifer

Vyonne & (Suzi)~Thanks so much for the information on Viagara. I printed all the articles and can only ask my Dr. and see what happens. :dunno:
Vyonne, I should also let you know that if you need something non-prescription like the raspberry leaf capsules, I could also help out.

Loopy~I know what you mean about being better prepared for a cycle. I also feel like I'm not going everything I can in preparation for a possible FET in August. :rolleyes: I think I've just lost some of the "zest" I once used to have. I'm feeling like it'll either work or it won't (and that's because I believe I've done EVERYTHING to make it work in the past). Maybe I'll get myself in gear when I'm sure this is even going to happen.

I put my cat down yesterday and between the days leading up to it and now, I haven't been online a lot. (More info. about that in my journal). I do have my sono scheduled for tomorrow. I know they're not half as painful as the hsg was for me, but even so, what was it that helps the pain? Taking some Ibuprophen a few hours beforehand?

Kim

I do have my sono scheduled for tomorrow. I know they're not half as painful as the hsg was for me, but even so, what was it that helps the pain? Taking some Ibuprophen a few hours beforehand?

Kim

YESYESYESYESYES!!!

I am so sorry about Hurricane. :hug99:

Could you please CALL 877-334-1610 and find out what would be the cost of 44 units of 25mg each? At least I will know if I can get them on time for my upcoming cycle.

Thank you, sweetie :bighug:

Vyonne

Vyonne, the suppositories are $12US each and all they need is a scrip faxed by a doc. I *think* the scrip has to be written by a US doc, any chance your RE has a doc friend who would write the scrip? I also Assume they will only ship to a US address (overnight shipping is free) - if you figure a way to work this, you can certainly ship to my address and I can send to you. You just let me know what I can do.

If you can't get them from the US, any chance of looking into getting the suppositories from Mexico? I think they are not regulated there like they are here in the US.

Vyonne & (Suzi)~Thanks so much for the information on Viagara. I printed all the articles and can only ask my Dr. and see what happens. :dunno:
Vyonne, I should also let you know that if you need something non-prescription like the raspberry leaf capsules, I could also help out.

I put my cat down yesterday and between the days leading up to it and now, I haven't been online a lot. (More info. about that in my journal). I do have my sono scheduled for tomorrow. I know they're not half as painful as the hsg was for me, but even so, what was it that helps the pain? Taking some Ibuprophen a few hours beforehand? Kim
Kim, I am glad you too may benefit from the Viagra Suppositories :thumbsup: At least you won´t have any trouble getting them. Also, thank you soooo much for your kind offer on the non-prescription items... you are very sweet :bighug: I promise to let you know, if I´m not able to get it. Today I called every pharmacy chain, and they didn´t know what I was talking about :pullhair:
I am so very sorry about your cat :sadhug:... I love animals, specially cats and have 3 persians that I brought out here with me and will soon take back! They are my little babies :awink:

Loopy~I know what you mean about being better prepared for a cycle. I also feel like I'm not going everything I can in preparation for a possible FET in August. :rolleyes: I think I've just lost some of the "zest" I once used to have. I'm feeling like it'll either work or it won't (and that's because I believe I've done EVERYTHING to make it work in the past). Maybe I'll get myself in gear when I'm sure this is even going to happen.Kim

Kim, Its funny you say you feel you´ve lost some "zest", b/c lately :secret: I´ve been feeling the same way. So, I totally understand you, girlfriend :nod:. And today at my RE´s office I said: Gosh! I want this "over already" I am getting pretty fed up with this roller coaster ride. Specially, when I still have no guarantees this time it will work! Of course, I said that after one other procedure he did today (dunno the name) but he inserted vaginally a catheter and squeezed some water into my uterus and fallopian tubes. My goodness, the pain was so intense that I started screaming (something I have never done before) and my blood pressure dropped to almost 0 :eek: I nearly fainted with pain... it was excrutiating and he had to give me a pain reliever shot and stayed laying for almost 1 hour thereafter... does everything have to happen to me??? :disbelief Could it be an hsg? :dunno: what that stands for, but you said it was very painful, and this sure was!!!

Vyonne, the suppositories are $12US each and all they need is a scrip faxed by a doc. I *think* the scrip has to be written by a US doc, any chance your RE has a doc friend who would write the scrip? I also Assume they will only ship to a US address (overnight shipping is free) - if you figure a way to work this, you can certainly ship to my address and I can send to you. You just let me know what I can do.

If you can't get them from the US, any chance of looking into getting the suppositories from Mexico? I think they are not regulated there like they are here in the US. Suzi
Suzi, Thank you so much :bighug:, for doing that for me. Wow! they are so expensive :rolleyes: and since I´d need 44 the cost would be $528.00+TAXES+SHIPPING COSTS out here. Unfortunately, with all other expenses and not having this one in the budget, I honestly don´t think I can get them :tear: But I still have a few days to see if I can make it happen (maybe I´ll rob a bank :lol2:), b/c if I take them... I´d have to start around July 28th. However, my RE said he´d find out tomorrow, if they could produce for him at the fert clinic´s pharmacy, the Viagra composition in 25 mg in the form of suppositories. But, I don´t know if I want to be a ginea pig, because all they´d do is reproduced the regular pills into suppositories and maybe there is an additional ingredient(s) that we will not know about :dunno: What´s your input??? As far as getting a doc to write up the scrip, would be no prob, because I have all my doctors from when I was back home, and any of them, I´m sure would do it... specially my gyno, who was my doc for 18 years, until I left. I also wanna know if you had a chance to read up on the side effects... what do you think? Do you consider them too risky? Not that we don´t already risk it all, huh? :lol:
PS Oh, and Mexico would be out of the question, b/c I don´t have anyone that could get them for me out there.

Well, I´m gonna go lay down now, because I still am in pain and quite bloated from this freaking procedure, that wasn´t even scheduled. My Re called me this am and said: "there´s one more procedure I think I´d like to do, so please get your little tush over here" The rest is history...

Vyonne

I´d have to start around July 28th. However, my RE said he´d find out tomorrow, if they could produce for him at the fert clinic´s pharmacy, the Viagra composition in 25 mg in the form of suppositories. But, I don´t know if I want to be a ginea pig, because all they´d do is reproduced the regular pills into suppositories and maybe there is an additional ingredient(s) that we will not know about :dunno: What´s your input???

Can't imagine it'd be any different...25mg viagra is 25mg viagra. :dunno: :lol:

I also wanna know if you had a chance to read up on the side effects... what do you think? Do you consider them too risky? Not that we don´t already risk it all, huh? :lol:

Exactly...I think the risk is small enough considering...but that's me.

Suzi, Thanks for your advice... in both cases, I think you are right :nod:

Vyonne

Kim I am so sorry to hear about your cat :sadhug:that just stinks and I'm sure was not an easy decision. We had to do the same in January and it still stings. I'm certain that you gave that kitty a wonderful charmed life!! I'm sorry about not feeling so gung ho. Don't beat yourself up about it from what I hear sometimes those are suprisingly the most sucessful cycles!! Who knows what the magic bullet is?

Vyonne - I'm sorry you got such a painful suprise test! Tend to think it wasn't an HSG though since usually they do those to make sure your tubes are open and for IVF well we obviously don't need that part of our anatomy :lol: My accu is a big fan of the rasberry leaf tea - actually if you enjoy tea the actual drink is quite nice!

Jen and Geri - tough decisions on the finacing. I can tell you that a close friend decided to do the shared risk and wound up pregnant on the first go round - she now has a happy 5 month old (oh and he was the lone surviving embie too!) and doesn't regret the decision at all!

Rho - hope the headaches subside for you!

Not much new here.. tomorrow is u/s and blood. I am hoping for a nice thick tripple striped lining!! I alternate between being calm and beating myself up for having a glass of wine or something. :catfight:

Judy, I don´t know what the heck the test was... but it sure was aweful :eek:
I sure love drinking infusions (decaf teas, chamomile, lemongrass, anis, etc), so I´m sure the Red Raspeberry tea would be of my liking :lick:
Keeping my fingers :crossfing and saying lots of :pray:s for the triple stripped lining!!!
I start Lupron or Zoladex on the 18th and on the 20th I have a reunion with a couple of girlfriends (coming from the States) I haven´t seen in a while and will not be able to have any drinks... it sucks :angry2: but will not chance it, or I´d be beating myself later on too!

Vyonne

Loopy~~ Can you please let me in on the fertility prayer you recite every nite? Thanks a bunch.

Judy~~ Where can I find the raspberry leaf tea? A regular grocer?

Kim~~ Sorry about your kitty.:tear: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

I'm still in limbo on the BW results & pap results. I'm guessing they won't be around until the 20th. In a perfect world, that would be starting Lupron on the 21st. I think I needed this extra time anyhow. It's been so overwhelming as I stated a few posts ago. DH & I are over the little hurdle it seems from the other evening. Who knows what is next around the corner. I've decided to take your advice about the accupuncturist. I think it would be good too. I am an extremely high strung individual, I drive myself crazy sometimes. The last couple of days, I seem to be losing my mind. I'm sure DH thinks I'm crazy, I started crying again last night about the loan docs not being at the house when they were suppose to be there.

Bloom~thank you for the information on your friend who has the 5 month old, that is truely inspiring.
:redflower (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
Jennifer

Jen- I would love to...but I need to find it! :blush: It is in one of my old PDF file journals from the UB days...but I don't remember which one... I will look tonight! Oh, and my name is Geri! :) I forgot that I don't have a signature here anymore!

Judy- that is what I figure... getting pg on the first try would still be money well-spent!

I went for my CD3 bloodwork today to check my FSH for the refund program. The nurse told me that I need to have my hysteroscopy this month too...so we scheduled that for July 26th. Then she put me on the IVF schedule for the week of Sept 17th! :eek: That means I need to lose the rest of my weight by the end of this month. I might be able to do it...but I am not sure. I need to talk to my DH about this...but unfortunately he is at a training class and working this week. We have only been able to spend about 15 total minutes per day on the phone. I like the idea of doing it in Sept...but if I can't qualify for the refund program because I have 5 lbs to lose, then I am willing to wait until Oct. I know I can lose the last 10 lbs...but in 2 weeks? I am not so sure!

~Geri :)

Kim~ I am so sorry about your cat!

Judy~ Wishing you the prettiest lining ever!!

Vyonne~ I would love to help you plan our little convention in Vegas!! Vegas is awesome!! I think it is a great spot too to do something like this!


Hi Everyone! Hope everyone is doing well!!

Vyonne~ I would love to help you plan our little convention in Vegas!! Vegas is awesome!! I think it is a great spot too to do something like this!
Ang, So happy to see the enthusiasm there :yippee:. Boy! as soon as I´m out there... I´ll get in touch with you and we can plan the best convention EVER!!! We are going to have such a blast... we´ll hit the news :lol:
By the way, how are you feeling now days with your two little ones??? Are you doing any :knitting:??? Take good care of them :bteddy: :pteddy: and you too, sweetie!

Vyonne

Vyonne - Hope you are feeling better now though from the mean test! And I don't think I jumped in before but I am so in on the vegas trip! I even have a show suggestion - I hear that O (the cirque de solieil show with the water stage) is amazing - can we add that to our agenda?

Angela hope you are doing well!!

Geri - wow things are moving fast for you!! Don't know how diciplined you are but you might want to consider South Beach diet for the 2 weeks - I had good sucess with it the first time I did it. Its very low carb and very strict the first 2 weeks. No fruit, no alcohol, no sugar, no breads/pastas. 2 weeks is a short amount of time to lose weight if you decide you need more time, will they let you defer until October?

Jennifer - its very tough to do a cycle to begin with as it seems like there is always the next hurdle to worry about. Try as much as you can to cut yourself some slack. I used to be a controle freak and yes still have those tendencies but I have to stop myself as I have learned through this treatment and everything else the best I can focus on is staying on top of decisions with my doc, and trying to keep myself in a happy healthy place - most everything else is outside of my control! I usually find teh rassberry leave tea in organic groceries simmilar to Whole Foods or nutrition stores. There are a couple of brands, I think they are all pretty much the same but I tend to get the Yogi Tea brand.

ETA - I forgot my update lol - I had my check this morning, I didn't ask the tech for the measurement since last time there was a discrepancy between what they said and the Dr. There was no stripe though which bums me out of course but I recall that the Nurse coodinator last time noted that in previous cycles I tended to develop it later so I am going to wait to hear back from them.

Well sh^t - lining is at 7mm. I guess according to the nurse this is not a big deal and happens a lot. I'll just stay on the meds longer and the transfer date will be pushed out - it will probably be Friday the 21st instead of Tuesday or if it needs a few more days of 'fluffing' Monday the 24st. I'm actually pretty calm about it suprisingly. I know that last cycle when it didn't have the 'triple stripe appearance they classify as ideal, I was a basket case and the nurse looked through my records of past files. She saw that I usually get it later which makes me think my lining may be a late bloomer and this may be a good delay at least I am going to try to make it have a positive spin.

Geri~~ Thank you

QuoteJennifer - its very tough to do a cycle to begin with as it seems like there is always the next hurdle to worry about. Try as much as you can to cut yourself some slack. I used to be a controle freak and yes still have those tendencies but I have to stop myself as I have learned through this treatment and everything else the best I can focus on is staying on top of decisions with my doc, and trying to keep myself in a happy healthy place - most everything else is outside of my control! I usually find teh rassberry leave tea in organic groceries simmilar to Whole Foods or nutrition stores. There are a couple of brands, I think they are all pretty much the same but I tend to get the Yogi Tea brand. Quote


Thanks a bunch on the information.....I'll go straight to Whole Foods tomorrow!!! I'll try some slack cutting too.
:lick:

Ladies, how in the heck do I do the "quote"?????:bolt: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Ladies, how in the heck do I do the "quote"?????:bolt: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
Look in the lower right hand corner of the post you want to quote. You'll see a button marked 'quote'. Its that easy!

Judy, Thanks for asking how I feel after that mean test on Tuesday... well, even yesterday I was feeling pain and totally bloated :dead:, but today I feel a lot better :nod:
It´s simply wonderful to hear that you too will join us on the Las Vegas trip :yippee: I know there´s still a lot of planning... but just knowing so many of us will do it, its exciting!!!
I will send a lot of prayers your way... so that your lining grows to the desired size, and you get your triple stripe lining :pray: :crossfing Plus, if you have a record for being a late bloomer... it may just be that, and soon will get a pleasant surprise :hug1:
Vyonne

Geri~~ Thank you\

Just wanted to let you know that i am still looking for that prayer. I found the pregnancy one in my nightstand, but the TTC one wasn't there. I have been through 2 of my 5 TTC/IF journals and haven't found it yet. The journals are saved in a way that each page of the journal is a separate PDF file and I have to open them individual...and it is taking forever! :lol:

Judy- I hope your lining grows to where it needs to be! :crossfing

I found out today that I have until my baseline u/s (around when I start stims) to lose the 10 lbs, not July 26th like I thought! WHEW!!! I also postponed my cycle to the Oct 1st cycle, since my DH can't get out of work the week I was originally scheduled for.

Hi again

I know about the bottom right "quote", however, do I have to quote the whole paragraph, or can I just use a sentence?

Jennifer

Gerri~~~ Thank you for looking for the prayer.

Judy, Thanks for asking how I feel after that mean test on Tuesday... well, even yesterday I was feeling pain and totally bloated :dead:, but today I feel a lot better :nod:
It´s simply wonderful to hear that you too will join us on the Las Vegas trip :yippee: I know there´s still a lot of planning... but just knowing so many of us will do it, its exciting!!!
I will send a lot of prayers your way... so that your lining grows to the desired size, and you get your triple stripe lining :pray: :crossfing Plus, if you have a record for being a late bloomer... it may just be that, and soon will get a pleasant surprise :hug1:
Vyonne

Vyonne, what was that test anyway??

Jennifer

Ok. :slap:
O.k. I got the whole quote thing, thanks again.

Hello everyone... I would lvoe to join in... I think we will be doing IVF cycle #3 in September so I may actaully be an October person... but just wanted to say hi and wish everyone good luck.

:slap:


So Jen can I take it by the smilie you suggested that you figured out how to get rid of the text you don't want in the quotes? :awink:

Welcome Rifka :welcome: omg I just realized you are a MA girl!

Hope everyone is having a happy Friday! I'm drinking tons of rasberry leaf tea - good thing that stuff tastes good :awink:

Whew! I've been busy. I'm getting ready to head out tomorrow for our vacation. . .a road trip to Chicago with some pit stops in between. Feeling so emotionally drained, I originally wasn't looking forward to it, but since my bags are packed and the house is cleaned and I'm done with work, I'm glad to be going away.

Jen~I'm high strung as well :nod: and as long as you're not stressed by the needles (they typically don't seem bother most people), I think doing it is a great idea. You can read anywhere about how good acupuncture is for relieving stress.

Vyonne~I'm sure you had an hsg. Although it's true what Judy said about not needing your "tubes" for IVF, it was required testing for me even with the DE cycle. I cried when I found out (because I had 2 of them previously with all my ectopics) and they let me do the sonohystergram instead. As far as I remember, they're both quite similiar in that you get the same results, except with the sono, it doesn't go through your tubes. But what it does check is your uterus for it's shape, any lesions, etc. When I had my hsgs, for the first one, I was in so much pain that I threw up all over the place right in front of the Dr. :rolleyes: The second time, even though I warned the Dr, I started screaming as soon as they started and they had no choice but to give me a local anesthesia in my cervix. It sounds exactly like an hsg to me.

Judy~Hang in there girl. :hug99: I'm so sorry about the difficulties you're having with getting your lining where it needs to be. The good thing is that this follows a pattern and hopefully things will be where they should be soon. I could swear that when I was reading about the Viagara for helping with lining, it talked about helping with the triple stripe too. Perhaps that's something you might inquire about? I've also heard about the Cirque show from a friend of mine. He said it was amazing. Good for you with the Red Raspberry tea. . .although it seems like Iced Red Raspberry tea is in order for today!

Geri~It's great that you don't have to loose the weight as quickly as you thought, but I do know there are some diets (including the South Beach diet) that is good for quick weight loss. Some of these are used for people who have to prep for open heart surgeries and stuff like that.

Rifka~Welcome. :welcome: I see you're from Plymouth. My sister is getting married there this September!

My sono when well. I took a couple of Ibruprophen beforehand and it was a cinch. If all goes well, I just wait for my next AF, which should be at the end of July, and then I can start preparation for the FET. :crossfing

We're bringing the laptop with us so I should be able to check in every now and then. Until then, I wish you all well.

Kimberly

Hi ladies~~I picked up some Herbal reaspberry tea from GNC, made by Basic Organics.....is this a good one?

Kim - thank you. I might ask about the viagra if Monday's scan doesn't show what they are looking for, I didn't think of that so definitely appreciate you mentioning (and DH would probably be thrilled with the effects :secret: ) He might wind up oweing you dinner :awink:

Jen - I haven't tried that particular kind but I think that most of the products you get at GNC are good quality! :nod:

We're having a mellow weekend here which is nice, I am hoping that Monday's scan brings good news but in the meantime treated myself to peach sangria today :lick: (1 bottle sweeter white wine, 1 cup peach schnapps, 1 cup lemonade and 1 pint of rasberries) I agonized over if the drink would hurt the cycle and decided the rasberrys were a plus as was the enjoyable relaxation :shuffle: )

Kim, You were so right... it was an HSG and it was sooooooooooo painful :owow:. Well girlfriend, I think we are going to be cycling at the same time :ura1: b/c my ET is August 16th!!! I am quite nervous, but ready to get it over with... this long hurdle has been a bit much for me the past few months. Although, I must confess that dealing with frozen eggs... still makes me uneasy, but need to have faith! Nontheless, I will trust in God and pray very, very hard for this cycle to work out :pray: for you and me and all of us, on this long ride :bighug:
PS Enjoy your vacation and be prepared to come back ready to kick some :moon2:

Kim - thank you. I might ask about the viagra if Monday's scan doesn't show what they are looking for, I didn't think of that so definitely appreciate you mentioning (and DH would probably be thrilled with the effects :secret: ) He might wind up oweing you dinner
Judy, Just so you know... the Viagra Suppositories have to be taken starting on the first day after AF is over. You take them 4 times a day for 8 to 11 days and have to be discontinued 5 to 7 days prior to transfer. :secret: Thought I´d let you know, just in case. However, have faith and Monday may bring a nice surprise for you, when you see your triple line :nod:.
Sending good vibes and tons of prayers your way :hug99:
PS Thank you for the Peach Sangria recipe.. last evening I was a little bad :angeldevi (before starting my cycle on Tuesday the 18th), and I had a couple of White Russians (Vodka 1 oz + Khalua 1 oz + Milk or Cream 2 oz, over ice :lick: yum, yum!)
Just think what our trip to Las Vegas will be like... :woo: :lol:

Vyonne

Good morning!

I just got back from my vacation & everything is moving along a little ahead of schedule. If everything goes according to schedule (which of course will change,) I will have ER August 8 or 9.

Of course, while I was home visiting family, my brother & his wife announced that they were pregnant, with their due date being 2 days after I would have been due if our last IVF would have worked. I am excited for them, but at the same time it makes me sad for me.

I'm going to spend this week trying to get on top of everything & next week I will start back to doctor's appointments & all that fun. It has been nice to have a break from everything.

It sounds like everything has been busy around here! I'm sorry I don't have time for personals today -- I've got a VERY large pile of mail to go through & lots of other things to get done.

Happy Monday!
Carla

Vyonne~~Yes....That Hsg test is very painful. That happened to be my first diagnostic test confirming my IF. I curse the guy that ever thought of that test!!! :eviltongu (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)I had a very large hydrosalpinx on the left tube, which has since been removed. I'm wondering why you had to have it? What were they looking for? I'm sorry it was so painful for you.

Welcome back Carla:wavey: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

What are you ladies doing for the "No caffiene" rule? What can I take to give me a safe jolt when I need it?

Jennifer


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Welcome back Carla - I am sorry about your bittersweet news. Hopefully this cycle will allow you to make your own announcement very soon!!


Vyonne thanks for the v info! I'm not sure what to think (see my update below)

Jen, I'm not sure there is anything that you can really replace caffine with though I suspect that an occasional tea or coffee isn't too bad.

so..my update...crap - lining is still at 7mm. I wonder if I am just stuck there? I'm on 3 pills of 2mg estrace 3x daily I thought by now it would have at least moved to 8! I've never had an issue with linings before other than being a later bloomer but by now I have always been around 9. Guess I will wait to hear from the Nurse Coordinator. I'm very bummed and pretty teary today about this, I feel like a freakin miserable failure and am having quite the pity party.

so..my update...crap - lining is still at 7mm. I wonder if I am just stuck there? I'm on 3 pills of 2mg estrace 3x daily I thought by now it would have at least moved to 8! I've never had an issue with linings before other than being a later bloomer but by now I have always been around 9. Guess I will wait to hear from the Nurse Coordinator. I'm very bummed and pretty teary today about this, I feel like a freakin miserable failure and am having quite the pity party.
Oh, sweetie! I am so sorry to hear the disappointing news:sadhug: ... everything with these treatments is always sooooooooo uncertain :disbelief . I know all the anticipation to get things rolling and later getting a negative, can certainly be detremental. I still hope your Nurse Coordinator will have a good alternative, to continue through with this cycle as expected :pray: Tons of love, prayers and good vibes your way :hb:!
PS, If for any reason you´d have to move to the next cycle... then you may want to consider trying the Viagra :nod:

Carla, Is so nice to hear back from you!!! Sorry about your brother and wife´s news... its good news, but for us fighting so hard to achieve a pregnancy, can have a bittersweet taste! Hope you´ll soon have great news to pass along too :hug99:

Jen, My RE simply wanted to eliminate any possible problems for my upcoming cycle... so he decided to check me "inside out", very thoroughly :rolleyes:
As far as the "no caffeine" rule... there`s no substitute for a caffeine jolt. So, if you can´t live without it... have caffeine moderately from time to time. However, IMO, the investment on these treatments is so great, that if I know is best not to have it... I simply eliminate it from my diet :dunno: Why take unnecessary chances???

Vyonne

Hi everyone! I have realyly been out of touch these last few weeks. To much to do!

Dana - I am so sorry!

Vyonne - Viagra :updown: that is so interesting (who would have thunk it)

Kim - Had an appoint with my Re on Friday and he believes that it was just stress that caused AF to go out of whack (since this will be my last try). His suggestion is to wait at least 2 more months. Which of course will make me more nuts then I already am.

I am really happy that you are starting another cycle, I will add you to my prayers.

I was also sorry to hear about your cat. I put mine down a few years ago he was 12, I had him from a kitten. Now I have two, one is 14 (Boomer Tang) my kidnap victim and the other one is 8 (Shadoe Boy) my shelter rescue. But I still miss my Dot.

And OH MY GOD!! Do I get it about husbands if mine were any denser - some times I just want to :slap: ! But for the most part he is great and has been my rock in the tubrulent thing I call my life. But we had are share of :catfight: when I was doing this for the first time - MY GOD the paperwork and all the damn test are enough to many any couple crazy.

Vegas sounds great :crazy: I have been meaning to get there eventually.

Jennifer- "I had a very large hydrosalpinx on the left tube" (I still can not figure out that quote thing) I was diagnoised with hydrosalpinx which is a blocked, dilated, fluid-filled fallopian tube. And I was just wondering since you wrote it was on the tube and not in the tube if that was the official diagnois.


Rafka :welcome:

I hope I did not miss anyone.

Lots of baby dust for everyone!!

Dawnie~~~

Yes, that is what I meant "IN" the tube, not "ON" the tube. Very large hydro, and I never knew I had it. I had no symptoms whatsoever. How many times have you tried IVF? Have you been successful? I hope this last cycle of yours is the one that is meant to be.

Jennifer

As far as the "no caffeine" rule... there`s no substitute for a caffeine jolt. So, if you can´t live without it... have caffeine moderately from time to time. However, IMO, the investment on these treatments is so great, that if I know is best not to have it... I simply eliminate it from my diet :dunno: Why take unnecessary chances???

Vyonne

I have to agree with Vyonne on this one. Caffiene has a HUGE impact on fertility and I simply did not risk the consequences. In 4 years of IVFs I never drank caffeine - just like male sperm, female eggs that ovulate this month started developing THREE months ago...anything I drank in the last three months will affect them. just not worth it IMO.

I'd say bite the bullet and do the 4/5/6 days with caffeine headaches/grumpiness and get it over with - do yourself a favor and get rid of it now (we are done with IVFs and I still don't drink caffeine). Good luck!

Jennifer,


I have already tried IVF twice the 1st time I got pg but lost it after 7 wks. The 2nd time nothing happened.

I hope that your cycle will be sucessful also.

Dawn

Judy~:sadhug: I'm sending positive wishes and thoughts your way. Why the heck does this kind of stuff have to happen? :fado:

Carla~I know how difficult it is to hear pregnancy news while going through all these fertility treatments. :hug99: but I'm glad to hear that things are getting started earlier than expected. :clap: That's always a pleasant surprise. I may be having my FET and be in my 2ww around the same time as you. :thumbsup:

Dawnie~Thanks so much for your condolances. It's so hard loosing a pet. :tear:

Jennifer~My friend who is pregnant says she drinks a small amount of coffee every now and then. :rolleyes: I go with what Suzi says though, why risk it? There may be some natural herbs (make sure they're safe for pregnancy) that may boost your energy? :dunno: I'm always trying to stay calm so I stay away from caffiene, etc. Problem is, wine is my vice because it relaxes me. That's my weakness but during a cycle instead of wine, I do a lot of yoga, acupunture and treat myself to massages. :awink:

Hi Ladies~~

Thanks for your opinions on the caffeine. I've been drinking the red raspberry tea & also have been enjoying green tea as well.

SUZI~~ I didn't know that about the eggs developing THREE months ago. That's good information to have.....thanks

CARLA~~ I just heard through the grapevine that my sister N law MAY be pregnant.:jawdrop: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) It's not confirmed yet as they have two kids already that they can't afford or even take care of properly, so I assume they are waiting to break the news until they can't hide it any longer. :woa: This info comes from the Mother N Law, so I take it with a grain of salt. Unfortunately we are not close, I keep her at arms length. They know we are trying but they have no idea how aggressive we have become with our treatmeants. My point is, I've already been practicing how I will react when the news comes. I feel like I could cry my eyes out:cry: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)...although last night when I found out I immediately, started:fado: on the inside. It's not fair. So here goes my acting class....Oh, I'm sooooooo happy for you, that is terriffic news (:puke: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)) I know you understand.

Today I start my accupuncture per all of your recommendations. I hope it will destress me and something good will come out of it. We still don't have all our results back, BW/Pap results. This Thursday will be 2 weeks since the pap, so we shall see.
Oh, one more thing...they have me on the pill and I started spotting....the last few days it's been more than spotting, should I be concerned??

Jennifer

My point is, I've already been practicing how I will react when the news comes. I feel like I could cry my eyes out:cry: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)...although last night when I found out I immediately, started:fado: on the inside. It's not fair. So here goes my acting class....Oh, I'm sooooooo happy for you, that is terriffic news (:puke: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)) I know you understand.

Jennifer

:lol2: Don't we ALL understand that one??!! Sorry for the impending news - hearing about a family PGY always makes me want to :puke: too. Only I already know there is NO acting class good enough to teach me how to hide my real feelings... :dunno:

Hello you all!!!

Well, I officially started my cycle today :ura1: . Unfortunatelly, I had to start it with Zoladex :eek:, because it is a lot cheaper then Lupron... it was as painful as ever, but I must say I am real happy to be on the road again :yippee: ET August 16-17 :crossfing
Please all your prayers and good vibes, will be greatly appreciated :pray: :bighug:

Vyonne

:ura1:Vyonne!!! :pray::pray: are coming your way - very excited that you have officially begun!

Jennifer how did you like accu?

My appologies up front I have been sort of sticking my head in the sand about everything due to the news I got Monday regarding my lining. I actually picked up a refill of my meds at the pharmacy and they are using a different brand of generic now for estradol. Could be my imagination but I think I feel more tired and have more zits. At least it is giving me a little hope that I might make it to 8 come tomorrow. And if not...well it is what it is. I think I will look into a weekend away with DH if I need a consolation prize.

:ura1: Yay, Vyonne! Lots of prayers and good vibes are coming your way!!

Hello everyone!! Sorry it's been so long since I've logged on. It's been hell at work and my computer at home has been in the shop!! So much has happened since I've been gone! Vyonne, I'm so happy to hear that you're starting another cycle. This is going to be the one, I just know it.

Baby dust to everyone else!!!!

I'll be by later for personals!!

Jennifer, I know about an energy drink that has no caffeine (and tastes good). You get the energy from vitamins rather than caffeine. I drink it all the time. Oh, and there is no sugar and no carbs and only like 8 calories! Let me know if you're interested!

Judy, Haley & Kristen, Thank you so much for sharing my joy, for all your prayers & good vibes/wishes :bighug: I am excited, but at the same time, I have those little devils called "fear" & "anguish" lurking around :rolleyes: So this is the time I need to reafirm my faith and pray very hard to the Good Lord :pray:

Judy, Oh sweets, Please don´t appologize for pulling an "ostrich"... we are all entitled to it!!! I am sorry that your lining decided to play you a bad treak :sadhug: I know that when I am used to a certain med... and there´s an expected change... it sure bothers me and can feel the difference :nod:. My love and prayers are with you, love :hug99:

Kristen, Sorry to hear the days at work have been hellish... I hope that in no time your days get :sunny: :bighug:

Haley, Its been a while.. how are you, hon??? :bighug:

Vyonne

Vyonne, sending all kinds of positive thoughts for you!!! :bighug:

In news for us....we are looking into any possibility of adopting a baby boy. He was with his foster parents from 2 days old and they were 2 weeks from finalizing an adoption when the mom and dad were killed in a car accident (he is about 9 months old). I spoke with the caseworked today and she was not able to talk to me regarding his case due to HIPAA but she urged me several times to talk to the foster care supervisor and that "rules can be broken" (her exact words). I still don't feel especially hopeful that this will work out, maybe I am just trying to protect myself emotionally. I told the caseworked that I am not sure if we are interested in foster care because of our situation (I'm not sure if I could handle having a baby in my house only to have it taken away and given back to its parents). The caseworker just kept saying that I need to talk to the foster supervisor, almost like it was a nudge, nudge, wink, wink kind of deal.

At any rate, I think that we are going to pursue fostering with this agency (a different one than I have already talked to) and just see what happens...

Speaking of fostering, the foster agency that I have been talking to for a few months called me to ask if I would be willing to do an inservice training on how to deal with IF couples. They get IF couples A LOT and they want their employees to understand them better and be able to handle them better. I am thrilled that they are that interested, I hope that I can provide the insight that they are looking for.

So an update on me...please keep us in your prayers. This baby boy - Xavier is his name - is still in the hospital and he has a broken leg and broken arm. What is saddest of all is that he is there alone with no one to love him. :bawl:

Oh Suzi, there is just enough wiggle room for hope in this situation! It sounds like this precious little one really needs a loving mommy like you. I can't believe nobody is coming to see him. I hope some loving nurses are taking care of him. Maybe an adoption would go quicker for Xavier this time given his situation. :pray: ing for the little guy (and you!) By the way, my DH was adopted at the age of 12 months after being in foster care for the first year of his life. He turned out fine (more or less...:lol: )

Vyonne, I'm still hanging in there. I go for my baseline appointment this Monday! :yippee: Thanks for checking in on me. :hug99:

Alyson, I would be interested in the name of that energy drink. :)

Jennifer, are you still spotting? I hope you're okay.

I finally :box: the caffeine habit for this cycle. I didn't make it in time for the 3 month egg development (thanks, Suzi for that info), but at least I did it. NOT an easy habit to break. My husband leaves tomorrow for training in FL then after that he goes to Maine. We MIGHT see him in September, but probably not really until Christmas. He goes to England for about 2 months to check in his new command, and they are sending him right back to the states to Nebraska for a long training (until Feb or so.) Thank goodness that my Mom is coming next week so that my son has something to keep his mind off Daddy being gone again.

:hug99: to all.

Judy~~ I enjoyed the accu very much. I had one little anxiety attack after the accu left the room. All I could think of was all those needles in me. I started sweating and kinda freaked out. I then just kept deep breathing and focused on how much I love my DH & how much I really want to help myself calm down & how so very much I want to have our child. The accu said I would definately benefit from this. I should hope so after I purchased 5 visits for $615.00:crazy: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) I felt really good the rest of the evening. I tried not to let the "little" things get to me, such as when I found out DH would be working today instead of intercepting my meds from the Fed-Ex guy. (I'm outta town until Friday) He was suppose to hav ethe day off. No problem, I just rescheduled until Fri. am so I can pick them up.

We got all of our BW/Pap results back so I hope to start the Lupron on Saturday:ura1::crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

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:ura1:Vyonne~~Yippee!!!!!!! What exactly is so painful, AF, or the shots?

Suzi~~ My feeling here is you should go and talk to them right away. Do not delay. My heart is saddened by what has happened, terrible news, just awful. How exciting for you as well that they considered you for such an amazing opportunity. Since I've started in this post, it seems to me you are extremely knowledgable concerning IF & you are SO VERY helpful, & you don't even know any of us, (well at least me) I think it's an incredible opportunity that you should truly consider. People in our situation need people just like you. You go girl:) (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

Haley~~ Yes, I am still spotting, the nurse said to just keep monitoring it and if it gets worse they will double me up on the BCP. Not sure why I have to be on them in the first place??? Hey good luck on your baseline. I'll be thinking of you.
Also congrats on kicking the Caffeine habit...I'm still working on that one.

Suzi- I think that you should run, not walk to talk to the foster program supervisor. My heart goes out to baby Xavier and I'm sending him my prayers. He would be lucky to have such a wonderful mommy and family. I really hope that it all works out!!!

I'm sorry that I don't have more personals...I really still have to catch up on what's going on with everyone!!!!

We're still in a holding pattern. When AF arrives, I'll go in for my 3 day FSH and E2 tests. We've decided that if my FSH is still high we're going to begin the adoption process. Before we make our final decision, I want to be sure that I really am ready to give up the idea of a biological child. Each day I get more and more excited at the thought of adopting, so I think I'm almost there. I did, however have a vivid dream that I was pregnant the other night and it kind of upset me.

I've been working out and eating a healthy diet and I've lost 12 lbs. I still have quite a bit to lose, but it's the first time since I started treatment over a year ago for my endo that the scale has budged!! YAY!

Suzi - its very interesting that this potential opportunity has presented itself to you sort of in a celestine prophesy kind of way not to be too whoo whoo or anything but I have found that these types of events and occurances seem to sometime just be meant to be. I can completely understand not wanting to set yourself up for disapointment http://baby.ourlittleuniverse.com/images/smilies/bighug.gif But I am excited! I think it is wonderful that the agency has thought to reach out to you to do an inservice - I can't think of a better resource for them!! I saw a thread on IVF connections a week or so ago from an IVF nurse looking for feedback do's and don'ts to share with her staff and along the same lines I thought what a wonderful idea! Xavier is a beautiful name. I say call - tomorrow and find out what the supervisor has to say.


Haley Horrah for you kicking the caffine! I hope DH's deployment speeds by.

Jennifer horray for liking accu. My accu used to leave a little bell by my hand in case I needed anything - I never rang it but I think it helped to avoid the feeling you described. I wonder if yours could so something simmilar? Though it sounds like you did just the right thing! The BCP and lupron while it seems counter intuitive just shuts your natural cycle down and gets you to a nice baseline for the RE to stim you. I always found it very ironic to be popping those pills!

Congrats Kristen on the WL! And further on deciding next steps if you need to take them!

Vyonne - thank you :hug99:

So tomorrow we find out what is going on with my lining. I'm afraid to think one way or the other right now but I know it is out of my hands and if we do get cancelled I will remind myself that indeed everything does happen for a reason. (but come on lining - .9mm that s all we need!:lol: )

Suzy, Thank you, sweetie :bighug:
I have to agree with everyone on RUNNING to see about the Foster Program. Xavier will be in my prayers and sure hope he ends up with a great mommy like you :nod:... he could not get in better hands!!!

Haley, Good for you on :booted: the caffeine habit :hi5:!!! I hope the time with your DH away goes by fast so that you and your son, can soon enjoy him again! BTW, what is your son´s name? Good luck on your baseline appointment this coming Monday :bighug: :crossfing

Jen, Thank you, sweetie :bighug:... I am so excited!!!
:fyi: The shot I received yesterday, instead of Lupron 3.5 (Zoladex) is a nightmare!!! It is given on your belly, but the needle is as thick as a crochet needle :owow: and the way the powder it contains goes into your skin is very, very painful... Thank goodness its only one per cycle :pant:!

Kristen, I sure hope when the time comes... that all your tests comes out great for your next IVF :pray: :crossfing. I am sorry about the dream... I know how upseting it can becomes when one wakes up to realize its only a dream, however, keep in mind that dreams do come true with lots of love and perseverance :nod:!!! Don´t ever let your heart close to miracles...
Its also real nice to hear that you may consider adoption, as it is such a wonderful heart given action. IMO, a baby is yours the moment is in your arms and you shower him/her with your love, care & attention. That is why I am so up for DE and Adoption :hb: and either way to raise a baby is as if it came out from your belly! My love & good vibes are with you :bighug:
PS Congrats on your :scale: 12 pounds sounds great!!!

Judy, Lots of prayers your way for tomorrow... :pray: :kiss:
PS And this is a little extra for the 9mm you need :crossfing x 9

Vyonne

ouch Vyonne! Glad you don't have to do that shot again!


Sadly, I have not moved past 7.1 mm.:blue: I'm fairly certain they will cancell me today but have to wait to find out. I'm so torn up about this. I thought I was better prepared but I feel like a failure and moreso am worried about what this response might indicate for future cycles. Though I have been a later bloomer on the tripple stripe..I have always gotten to at least 9mm. I'm afraid this might be a new challenge. And frankly I think I have had enough of them.fook I'll be fine just got to gripe for a few.

Thank you all for the words of encouragement!

Judy- I'm really sorry that your lining isn't where it needs to be. I know that the wait to hear the official verdict is excruciating! Try to hang in there and feel free to gripe all you want to us!!!

Sadly, I have not moved past 7.1 mm.:blue: I'm fairly certain they will cancell me today but have to wait to find out. I'm so torn up about this. I thought I was better prepared but I feel like a failure and moreso am worried about what this response might indicate for future cycles. Though I have been a later bloomer on the tripple stripe..I have always gotten to at least 9mm. I'm afraid this might be a new challenge. And frankly I think I have had enough of them.fook I'll be fine just got to gripe for a few.
Judy, Oh hon, I am so sorry :sadhug: you your lining did not get any better! But don´t feel like a failure at all :noqueno: you are one brave woman, who is having one of those "bad cycles"... All of us know and fear those unexpected "negative surprises" when doing a cycle... :secret: and it is TOTALLY OUT OF OUR CONTROL. So don´t even blame yourself... its simply another one of those unexplainable mother nature things :angry2: that come with the territory. Also, don´t feel that because its happened now... it has to repeat! It may be like with egg production, where you may have one bad batch, out of the whole year cycle. I don´t mean to ramble... I just want to reach out and hug you tightly to give you back hope, faith and serenity... until the next cycle comes and you try again with an open heart :hb: :hug99:

Vyonne

Thank so much you guys :hug99: Vyonee I hope that love hope and serenity you are sending gets here soon :nod:

Judy- This is just one cycle. Please don't worry!

Judy~~ Please forgive my ignorance..but what part of your cycle are you on for your lining to have to be .9mm?? Have you already started your injections??? I'm so sorry you had a bad day sweetie...I'm right there with you.:justahug: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

On my side of the street...I arrived home this morning to find my meds in front of my door. Yeaa... WOW!! All those needles.
I then sped to the REs for my new calender & BW that they forget to take on me, Thyroid and Prolactin & give them a big fat check for the ICSI procedure we probably won't even need?? (YES. I gotta speeding ticket on the way.) :angry2: Anyhow, the nurse informed me they still DID NOT get the last pending BW result on my husband. :tantrum: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) To my horror!!!! I thought for sure we would be able to start the Lupron tomorrow. Not to be. I needed the new calender as I had to get my work schedule in by TODAY for next month and needed to know when to be off. UUUGGGGHHHH!! The lab that did DH's BW stated it should be in by today or tomorrow, but they are closed on Saturdays. :bs: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) UUUGGGGHHHH. So now we have a date of Wednesday the 26th of July for the start on the Lupron.
Guys, I'm just so frustrated, I am doing my part, I really think I am, but to have to wait on other people to get things done is so very hard for me. I:bawl: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)all the way home. I wanted to start so bad tomorrow. I also wanted the nurse to go over the injections with me again. I feel like I don't know what I am doing. It seems like I forgot everything they told me in the injection class last week. I don't want to do it wrong.
I'm feeling better, sort of. I guess this is just not going to go on my timing.

Vyonne~~I hate to sound like such a baby with those injections after the one you just described:faint: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)Holy Moly, a crochet needle, that's BIG. Yes, thank your HP for only having to do that one once.

Vyonne~~I hate to sound like such a baby with those injections after the one you just described:faint: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)Holy Moly, a crochet needle, that's BIG. Yes, thank your HP for only having to do that one once.
Jen, Sorry if I scared you about the size of my needle :eek:, but I used Zoladex (on your belly) instead of Lupron (which is not too bad and goes on your bum) only for saving´s reasons. After sooooooo many treatments... wer are totally depleated (financially)... so I had to make a sacrifice and take the pain over the almost 40% difference in cost on the 2 meds (Zoladex vs. Lupron) that do exactly the same :disbelief
I am sorry to hear you are having such a bad time, sweetie :sadhug: But, know that we are all here to guide you in whatever you may need. And don´t worry... we all have gone through the same fears and doubts when we first started this journey... so don´t :noqueno: feel badly. And as far as being on your schedule... forget it! :secret: Keep in mind that Mother Nature has a mind of its own and you just need to learn to take it easy and don´t let "those things" get you upset. You´ll be surprise to see how quickly it all becomes so "normal" and you become a pro. Hopefully, you´ll only have to do it this one time, and you´ll score your BFP in the first try :pray: :hug99:

Judy, :kiss:

Kim, Thinking about you and hoping you are enjoying your trip :bighug:


Vyonne

Judy~~ Please forgive my ignorance..but what part of your cycle are you on for your lining to have to be .9mm??

Jen (is Jen ok or are you a Jennifer?) this was a frozen cycle so we were trying to just build a thick lining. The goal is 8mm and I was stuck at 7.1 hence the .9 I was looking for.

At any rate, it didn't budge so they gave me the opportunity to move forward anyway or scrap this month and try again. In light of having a less than optimal landing space for an embie, I went ahead and scrapped it. Was a huge bummer but I think at the end of the day, the right decision. I'd hate to risk losing an embie due to a rash choice. And admitedly was scared that a less than lush home if implantation did occur, could make me at risk for a m/c or something. I've no idea if that is an actual risk but it just didn't seem right. So now I am on provera for 7 days and will hopefully have AF soon after than so we can begin again. We're doing an injectable estrogen this time so hopefully that will yield a different result and this whole cycle was a bizarre anomoly. I've never had a lining issue before so :crossfing


Vyonne - how are you doing? where are you in your calendar?

Oh Judy~~I'm sorry you had to scrap this cycle...that truly is a bummer. It's hard once you have your sights set on something. I know, that is what I've been dealing with too, just not the right timing it seems. HMMMMMMMM......in any case the best scenario is that you feel right in making that decision. That is the best outcome, I think. P.S. It is Jennifer, thanx for asking. I suppose I should just go ahead and register, it looks like I'll be here for awhile;) (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

vyonne~`Thank you for your support..I was having such a bad day & you really came to rescue for me. Just being there. Thank you.:hug1: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)
I think I will start my first shot of Lupron on Wednesday:crossfing (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)????

Jennifer

I'm here! I can't believe it! I trudged through Washington DC traffic to make it. Tonight I'm here in the hotel and my appointment is tomorrow morning at 6:45 a.m. I really should get in bed! I will personalize tomorrow night, hopefully. I get my initial B/W and U/S tomorrow and go to injection class. Yay! Here this, IF! You will NOT win!! :box:

Hi everyone! I'm new and wanted to introduce myself a little. I have had a long battle of infertility woes. I did ivf one time previously and got pregnant but lost the baby at 9 weeks. We just had our transfer on Sat 22nd ,day three transfer .We had 2 grade 1 embryos and 1 grade 2 transferred. I am not use to day three transfers and was wondering what you'll think about them or if you know anyone who has had one and was successful?

I have had only day 3 transfers and have been successful. Best of luck to you!

Thanks for responding Suzi! You know how nerve wrecking this whole process can be. If you don't mind me asking how many did you have transferred and how many children do you have? It might make me feel a little more optimistic. Things haven't gone exactly smoothly on this cycle for us. I accidently gave myself too much heparin because it was a multi-dose vial and we thought it was a single dose vial :blush1: and I had bad gi upset from a trip to mexico right when we started our cycle so I was worried about my lining being thick enough because I wasn't absorbing the oral meds properly. Anyway, it's been interesting. Any info is appreciated!

No problem... I have done 7 cycles and all transfers have been 3-day with the exception of the last (which was a 2-day). I can tell you that your GI upset probably has nothing to do with your success/failure. Here is the breakdown:

Cycle 1: 3-day transfer of 3 embryos. Resulted in my daughter
Cycle 2: 3-day transfer of 2 embryos. Had a VIOLENT flu for 36-48 hours just before retreival. Fever of 101/102. Did 3-day transfer and I got the flu AGAIN, 36-48 hours of violent vomiting. Resulted in a PGY but was ectopic.
Cycle 3: dropped for non-response
Cycle 4: 3-day transfer of 3 embryos. PG but m/c
Cycle 5: 3-day transfer of 2 embryos (all we had). BFN
Cycle 6: No embryos to transfer
Cycle 7: 2-day transfer of 1 embryo (all we had), BFN.

I can assure you that as sick as I was - both before and after my 2nd retreival/transfer, you have every chance of BFP as anyone. And on the heparin, I wouldn't sweat that much, it only thins your blood and that won't hurt your implantation chances, especially given that you have thrombolytic issues. Don't worry so much, it is all irrelevant now. :nod: All you can do is create a calm environment for your embryos!

At any rate, it didn't budge so they gave me the opportunity to move forward anyway or scrap this month and try again. In light of having a less than optimal landing space for an embie, I went ahead and scrapped it. Was a huge bummer but I think at the end of the day, the right decision. I'd hate to risk losing an embie due to a rash choice. And admitedly was scared that a less than lush home if implantation did occur, could make me at risk for a m/c or something. I've no idea if that is an actual risk but it just didn't seem right. So now I am on provera for 7 days and will hopefully have AF soon after than so we can begin again. We're doing an injectable estrogen this time so hopefully that will yield a different result and this whole cycle was a bizarre anomoly. I've never had a lining issue before so :crossfing

Vyonne - how are you doing? where are you in your calendar?
Judy, I´m sorry at the end you had to cancel this cycle, but I have to agree with your choice for this month. Specially, if it was going to make you uneasy about your transfer with a lesser then optimal lining. I know in my case... those things get stuck in my head and don´t let me relax... :secret: and when doing our cycles what we need most is a relaxed mind! Lets start praying for your upcoming cycle and that your lining "behaves" this time around :nod:
Well, right now I´m waiting for AF to show up (around this 26-28) so I can get started the next day on my estrace pills and hopefully also start with a combination of the Viagra Suppositories (pending availability):crossfing, after AF is over. My ET is for August 17th, if all goes on schedule :pray: Now, I am going to be praying for a good response from my lining´s mind :rolleyes:. Unlike you, I have a history for poor lining response :disbelief

Jen, Anytime, sweetie :bighug: glad I could be there for you!!! Good luck on your upcoming Lupron for Wednesday :crossfing I´m sure you´ll do great!!!
By the way, and sorry I never asked before (even knowing your name is Jennifer) but do you rather be called Jennifer vs Jen???

Haley, You go girl :box:!!!
My thoughts and prayers are with you :hug99:

BusyBee, :welcome: and lots of baby dust your way for a BFP!!!
May I ask what is your name? Or do you rather be called "BusyBee"???

Vyonne

Thanks for sharing your info with me Suzi.Congratulations on your daughter! How old is she now? I feel a little better now and I agree with you that all my concerns of this cycle are irrelevant because whatever happens is meant to happen at this time in my life. You have been through a lot and you persevere and I think I'm going to be the same way. You know I'm not sure if I really have a thrombolytic problem for sure. I am just borderline positive for phosphatidylserine and I have a positive ana so I thought heparin and asa might reduce my chances of a m/c. It's worth a shot!
Vyonne thanks for the baby dust! My real name is Melanie and you can call me by my name. I have just felt like a busy bee lately getting ready for this cycle.
It was kind of strange because on the day of our transfer my RE came in to talk to us about the embryos and he stated he didn't want to transfer 3 so he wanted us to come back in 2 more days. I was confused and told him that if there is only three good ones go ahead and transfer them. He then asked me if we would consider reduction if all 3 took, and I nicely told him that I have a very supportive family and we could handle 3 if that is what happens.I also reminded him that I had a m/c last time and chances of 3 are not too likely. He looked at my huband and my husband said he was good with 3 so he ended up transferring 3. Did any of you'll have anything go on like this? What is your take on this? Think not waiting the 2 extra days was a good decision? I just went with my instinct.

Of course, the number you transfer is entirely dependent on your age, dx, previous cycle outcomes, number of eggs retrieved, number of embryos, etc.

That said, unless you have had embryos make it to blast stage (5 days), I would not suggest a 5-day transfer. Case in point....I transferred 3 embryos on day 3 and had twins (one didn't make it and I have my daughter - who is 3.5 by the way). On day 5 for freezing there were none left - all remaining had died in the meantime. That happened to me with every transfer...I shudder to think what may have happened had we had waited for a day 5 transfer. Unless you KNOW for certain that you have TOP QUALITY eggs and high quality sperm, I just wouldn't risk it.

Ther are two philosophies regarding transfer: get them back into their natural habitat ASAP because that is where they grow best (thus day 2 transfers are gaining in poplularity), and wait until they reach blast stage because only the hardiest of embryos will make it and the chance of PGY is much higher. Where you should be depends entirely on your personal dx and situation.

So there you go...clear as mud, right? :lol:

Yeah clear as mud! I've heard both theories and I'm not sure which one is more true but I guess I'll find out what works for me. All I know is that I don't want to go through the excitement of being pregnant and then losing the baby again. This time around we've kept it more private and decided not to tell friends and family until we have a