Geez, time for a new thread! Here's hoping a new thread brings lots of NEW LUCK to our ranks! :crossfing

Kimberly: in donor process
Vyonne Rousel: Starting Lupron Jan 5 for donor cycle
Dana: starting second donor process
Angela (angCTRealtor):cycling SOON!!
Rebecca (Rifka): FET in February
Andrea (ykmama2bemaybe): March cycle! :yippee:
Judy: :angel: :angel: 12/08/05 Discussing next steps
Okiejpb: January cycle! :yippee:
Carla: Cycling in February
Dawnie2: donor cycling in the spring
Adele (bgld68): Upcoming IVF(waiting update)?
Kerri (Kaybee711): IVF in May
Suzi: Last cycle in summer 2006
Amanda: :bfp: HPT 5/28, Baby Girl Jessica is due in February!! :yippee:
Sarah: :bfp: beta 11/21 :pteddy:
Brenda: Remy Christina and Sydney Smith born 11/19/05 :pteddy: :pteddy:
Pam: Amelia Faye born 10/30/05 :pteddy:

Hi Suzi- We are cycling in May if you could add me to the list. Thanks!

Just joining in....

joining in too!

Me too. :)

Kim

Count me in for a March cycle!

Happy New Year Ladies! :party3: This ones gonna ba a Great one!
Andrea

Dana~Thank you so much for answering my question in the last thread regarding the questions you will ask regarding your past cycle. It's very helpful to me as I go forward with my own DE cycle. I'd love to hear what your Doc says. :bighug:


Suzi~You keep late (early) hours!

Kim

Hello Girls!!!

So great to start the year with a new Thread :crossfing... thank you, Suzy! I trust the New Year will bring us New Hope filled with New Babies to top our ranks!!!

Yesterday I happened to go see my ER with my donor and he confirmed I will start Lupron this coming Thursday, January 5th :ura1:. So, if it all goes as planned... I should be getting transferred around the first week of February :pray: .

Suzy, will you please add me on too???

Lost of good wishes for all of us :grouphugg, so that 2006 will bring to reality all our baby dreams and for a year filled with blessings, good health, prosperity and lots of love... I toast to that!!! :toast:

Happy New Year :party2:

Vyonne

Just wanted to wish everyone a Happy New Year!!!I am on my way to a Party with some friends - Hope everyone has a great night!!:party3:


Dawn

I hope 2006 brings you all your children. :hug99:

Suzi can you add me to the list... FET most likely in February!! Thanks and good luck to all!!!!

Need updates for Dawn, Cindy and Carla and Sarah (Sarahgrace) and I will add to the list! Wow...we haven't had this many ladies around since the UB days! :eek:

Dana -- Thanks for posting all that info from your research. It is so nice to be able to learn from other's experiences.

I met with my RE before Christmas & our problem continues to be egg quality. I do get excellent fertilization & good embryos, so he feels we still have a chance things can work. My FSH is still good & I am only 32, so it is really frustration that my body is doing this to me! I have changed RE's since my successful IVF, so we don't know what the egg quality looked like then. It may have been suboptimal then & we just got lucky.

I am going to have a laproscopy in the next month or so & hopefully I have endometriosis so there is something to fix! I have a very strong family history of endometriosis & after a year on & off IVF drugs, there is a possibility that if I had it, it has worsened. I would really like to have something to blame this (IVF not working,) on besides my ovaries just being worn out (something that I can't fix.) If everything goes according to plan, we'll be starting IVF again next month. I go to my OB/GYN tomorrow to schedule the scope, so we'll see what he has to say. I am not ready to give up, but not feeling very optomistic. Anyway, you can put me down for February to try again, probably starting stims the first part of the month.

Does anyone know when during your cycle you usually have a scope?

Wow! What a big group of wonderful women!!!!
I hope 2006 brings many BFPs and healthy babies.

Amanda

If everything goes according to plan, we'll be starting IVF again next month. I go to my OB/GYN tomorrow to schedule the scope, so we'll see what he has to say. I am not ready to give up, but not feeling very optomistic. Anyway, you can put me down for February to try again, probably starting stims the first part of the month.

Does anyone know when during your cycle you usually have a scope?

Carla, My RE always likes checking "things" around ovulation time, which usually is between days 12 thru 15 (approx) after your first day of AF.

Dana, Yes indeed! Great info for all of us... thank you!!!

Amanda, DITTO :thumbsup:

Vyonne

Thanks for updating that list Suzie! :) We have our first IVF appointment on Thursday. It's a lecture with a bunch of other IVF couples and then our first IVF appointment discussing game plan with RE. I am starting on herbs this Saturday. I found out last week that we will be staying on our current insurance so we won't have to pay out of pocket!

I found out last week that we will be staying on our current insurance so we won't have to pay out of pocket!
:ura1:

Vyonne - I am so excited that you are starting so soon! :yippee:

Carla - :crossfing that the laposcopy gives you some answers. I had one done two months before my successful IVF cycle.

Nothing Earth shattering at the appointment. As expected, I bawled the entire time.

Our doctor reassured me that it was nothing *I* did to cause the failure. All my hormone levels were where they should be. We know I can cary a pregnancy. Going into this he said it should be a 'slam dunk'.

Something went wrong with our donor. It appears her previous donations have depleted her ovarian reserve. Which is very sad. The doctor had to tell her that if she wants to have children of her own, she needs to make it a priority in her life. (I don't think she's married) As a rule three donations aren't too many. For the donor we chose it was.

We will go forward and find another donor. I'm scared as hell. There is no pressure on us to move on immediately. Since its not my eggs, our odds will be the same in one year as they are today. he said if we wanted to take time off to grieve or recover for a few months or longer we could. That being said, I am anxious to move forward. I'll be calling the donor nurse today.
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GREAT news Kerri! I'm so excited for you!!!
Dana - I hope it was reassuring to hear that it was a donor problem. I know that doesn't change the fact that this cycle didn't work but it should give you hope for the future!

Amanda

Dana, I'm sorry it was a donor problem, that really sucks. But like Amanda, I hope it gives you some measure of comfort to know that it was a fluke and nothing that will be a struggle in future cycles. :hug99:

Kerri, great news you won't have to pay for your cycle!!

It looks like everyone is gearing up for their prospective cycles. As for me I am thinking about the end of Feb - beginning of March to start another cycle. I cancelled the appointment I made with my RE for Dec. I want to really make sure the both my sisters understand what they have to go through with all the tests, blood draws and all the injections. But at least the 3 of us will go through it together.

Everyone seems to be on there way. Babydust to all!!!

Dawn

Kerri, Great news on your insurance :thumbsup: You´ll be on your way in no time!!!

Dana, Thank you sweetie, I am quite excited too... it seems unreal that in a few weeks I´ll be getting ready for my transfer :ura1: (God´s will)
Regarding what your RE told you in reference to your donor its upsetting, specially because we go looking for a donor to better our egg quality, and when this things happen, its very frustrating:angry2: . Since my Donor was on "her first time donating", there was also a chance (among others) that she was simply a bad donor (bad egg quality) :blue: ...
It is also good that you can take your time and do it without feeling any pressure... as you say "with donor eggs it will make no difference and will be the same now or a year from now". You are still pretty young, and that is definitely in your favor... in my case, even with donor eggs, I see the clock ticking and have to hurry or else I will soon look like the grandmother to my child :lol: . I know I don´t look my age, but I know I´m 45 :owow: and that is enough for me to want to hurry it! I am praying so hard this time it will work :pray:

Dawnie, That sounds like a smart decision! And going through it together will make you much stronger and will bond you for life (not to say that you aren´t already!). They are total sweethearts and you are very, very fortunate to have them. With all that love surrounding you... it will have to work out :love2:

I know we have talk in our previous thread about the impact that our "diet" may have while we are doing these treatments, so I have started since last week (aweful timing with the Holidays) a more rigorous diet. I am already a vegetarian that only eats fish (no other meats), but I decided to eat only salmon and sardines on a daily basis, as my main meal (given all the good benefits of the high dosages of Omega 3 they contain). Before I had fish only twice a week, but now I am eating it every day. Adding to that, lots of green vegetables (broccoli, spinach, asparagus, cabbage, zucchini, etc) tomatoes, carrots, egg whites, cheese and lentils. Also fruits, nuts and cereals. And have also suspended 100% all sugars and starches (bread, potatoes, pastas and rice) from my everyday intake. I just hope not to lose any weight, as I have a very thin frame already. Also, I was already a caffeine free person, but used to consume some spartane as a sugar supplement in some of my drinks, which I will not take now, as I don´t want any "bad chemicals" in my system by the time I get my transfer. Any opinions/advice on my new eating habits??? Am I exagerating, or will that be good in the long run? Have also started taking my baby aspirin about 3 weeks ago, and will continue taking it through the transfer. Does anyone know how long after the transfer one has to take the baby aspirin for? Have been taking my Folic Acid non stop since I started TTC, so for about 4 1/2 years :disbelief !!!

Sorry about all the ramble :blahblah:, but I just want to do absolutely everything that may add more hope and better my chances to IVF/ICSI success :dunno: and will greatly appreciate any input you may have on this issue.

Vyonne

Vyonne, your new diet is rigorous and aggressive - I applaud you in your efforts! :clap: I think cutting out the aspartame is smart - DH and I have done that on the heels of a very frightening experience a friend of ours had with aspartame (she was very nearly diagnosed with muscular dystrophy as she suddenly came down with debilitating muscle weakness - so bad that she was unable to be left alone with her children because she couldn't care for them. Turns out she was getting formaldehyde poisoning from aspartame in diet sodas. When aspartame reaches temps above 85 degrees, it decomposes into formaldehyde - she was storing her soda in the garage and this condition mysteriously started in the late spring as temps started rising. She wasn't a hard-core diet soda drinker, either - she was drinking 1-2 sodas per day. As soon as she quit drinking aspartame...she was back to her old self. For nearly SIX months she suffered with daily, incapacitating pain and as soon as she quit drinking diet soda, she was better. That was enough for me and Chris to give up aspartame all together. :nod:

The baby aspirin...my RE has me continue with it through the first trimester. That gets you through the early stages when there are more potential troubles with clotting.

Best of luck Vyonne - I SO hope this is it for you!! :crossfing :nod:

Suzi, Thank you so much for your advice and thank you for cheering me on my diet... I need it!!! Its a hard one to do, but mainly for the 0 sugars part, specially when I want yougurt (very used to it) the non diet one contains sugar and the diet one contains aspartame, so I´m out of luck there! And that happens with a lot of things, the moment you don´t want sugar, you don´t find the items simply sugar free, without having all the other chemicals as a replacement. Now, I will have to make home made ice cream with lowfat milk and natural fruit pulp, and so on...
The story on your girlfriend sure is frightening :eek: . I was never a big soda drinker, at my worst I´d probably average 2 cans per week, but I´d drink aspartame in my yougurt and some other sugar free goodies occassionally. However, after what you are telling me, you bet I am kissing it good bye!

Thanks for the info on the baby aspirin, because since my RE doesn´t recommend it (but is not against either), I didn´t know. It is something I am doing based on the advice I found from all of you in the previous thread when I first joined, therefore, needed all the details.

Thank you so much for your good wishes on my upcoming treatment, sweetie :hug1: . Like you, I sure hope this is it for me :pray: !!!

Vyonne

Here and hoping that 2006 brings lots of luck and healthy babies to this thread!!

Hello Ladies!

Well New Years was a bust as I had to hang with an old friend who had to remind me every 2 minutes that shes pregnant with her second and "Oh the morning sickness, from being pregnant, really should be called all day sickness!" Is it wrong wanting to punch a pregnant person? She really has to be the only pregnant person ever to have morning sickness! To top it off I volunteered to be the designanted driver due to the fact that their cabin is 20 minutes out of town and I didn't want to spend all night listening to her, to bad I didn't volunteer DH for the Job so I could drink to get away from her! Oh well, when I'm pregnant I'm hoping to not get sick and rub it in! Revenge is sweet!

Well I'm treating my body like it's already pregnant and trying to lose a couple pounds in the process to help with conception. I went for my bcps today and had an excellant talk with my GP on visualization and relaxation and she gave me some great places to contact for things like cranial spacial massage and accupressure. Apparently the woman who does Accupuncture also does pressure so I'll give that a try!

Aspartame is Terrible for you! :eviltongu It's not even approved for human consumption it was approved for something else and then they started using it in diet foods. It's also in my package of things to avoid along with shell fish. If your looking for a substitute Splenda, Summer Sweet and Maltitol are derivitives of sugar but good for diabetics (not chemical substitutes). As for yogurts get the unsweetened and then add sugar free jams or fresh fruit and a bit of sweetener. As for sodas I dont know if you get Jones colas but they have a new line with Splenda and they are pretty good. Good luck cutting sugar and avoiding Asparteme!

I found some interesting info on aspartame. I'm not saying that it is a health food, but it isn't as bad as it's reputation is. Here's a link to Lancet, the British Medical Journal with info regarding some of the Internet "Urban Legends" regarding aspartame:

http://www.aspartame.net/media/opinion/op_aspint.html

It said that a fruit juice actually contains twice as much ethanol as a diet soda & an alcoholic beverage contains three to five times as much. It also said that studies have shown that there is no increase in blood levels of methanol, formic acid, or phenylalanine with 50 mg/kg, which is about 17 diet sodas/day for an average person.

Anyway, I thought that info was interesting.

I think anyone who saw the condition of my friend (nothing anecdotal or "urban legend-ish" about her) would immediately cut their consumption of aspartame. I saw first hand what it did to her...maybe it was her body's own chemistry that reacted differently from most, I don't know. All I know is that she was nearly wheelchair-bound and it was unquestionably related to her consumption of diet soda with aspartame - as soon as she quit drinking it, she was fine. :dunno:

I just checked snopes and it's there also, claiming no correlation between aspartame and several illnesses. I don't know what to say (and I am a FIRM believer in snopes!)...I saw my friend and I am telling you, there is SOMETHING...I don't know what it is, but I saw it.

I cut out aspertame when I realized it tasted like crap!

I cut out aspertame when I realized it tasted like crap!
Fair reason :lol: it does taste aweful :spitwater !!!

Andrea, Thank you for the ideas on how to improve the flavor in my yougurt, but will still need to be careful with the sugar free jams, because most of them contain Nutra Sweet or Aspartame. Didnt know Splenda does not contain chemicals... I thought all those sugar supplements were the same :duh: that´s a nice alternative when I need that touch of sweetness! On another token, why avoid Shell Fish??? Didn´t know it was bad for you :dunno:

Carla, Thanks for the link on Aspartame (quite interesting)... but after what Suzi shared with us about her friend (granted all bodies react differently), plus other negatives I´ve been hearing all along... it´s a product to definitely kiss good bye!

Vyonne

Hi, my name is Kristen and I have my first consultation with the IVF coordinator next Thursday. I'm 37, and I have stage 4 endometriosis. This past year I've had a laparotomy to remove one very large endometrioma and several small ones, I've had six months of Lupron Depot, and most recently and hysteroscopic myomectomy. My RE says that my uterus looks good, and the Lupron Depot seems to have kept the endo at bay. So the next step is IVF. I'd really love to be part of your group, although I definitely have a hard time keeping up with all of the acronyms!!

Kristen, we are HAPPY to have you!! I wish you best of luck for your cycle and if you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask...you'll likely get more info here than you will at your RE's office!! Hope your stay is SHORT!!! :crossfing

you'll likely get more info here than you will at your RE's office!! Hope your stay is SHORT!!! :crossfing
And Suzi ain´t kidding :lol:

Kristen, :welcome: on board! We are happy to add you to our wonderful "family", where we are always ready to jump in and help!

Vyonne

Welcome to Rifka and Kristen~:welcome: This thread is a great place to be when you're going through this. . .lots of great information and tons of support. I wish you the best.

Carla~All the best to you for your next cycle. :crossfing

Kerri~:yippee: for insurance coverage.

Dawn~We actually might be cycling on each others heels. :)

Andrea~Yuck. :rolleyes: I'm so sorry you had to deal with all that baloney for your New Year's celebration. I would have probably started drinking. . .designated driver or not! :crazy: By the way, I'm a big advocate of relaxation & meditation techniques and such.

Vyonne~:wow: I'm impressed. That's great that you're doing this. I myself actually was pretty strict with my diet for a while. It was actually very similiar to what you're doing with the big exception that I ate meat, I just made sure it was hormone-free, the same goes with all my vegetables which I purchased organic. I also was not eating any dairy. I was also taking supplements like L-Arginine and CoQ10, and drinking a green powder mix every morning with water. I felt great, my acupuncture definitely noticed changes in my pulse, etc. But it was hard. Sometime during this long and often painful waiting process with this whole DE venture I've been on, I gave it all up. Kind of with the attitude simply wanting some sort of enjoyment in my life. Don't get me wrong, I'm mostly a very healthy eater and don't drink sodas, etc. and other foods with additives. I just gave myself a little break and I didn't want to obscess about it if I had Halloween candy, or wine, or a pizza every now and then. But now, I'm ready to start it up again, perhaps not as strict as in the past, but I'm definitely going to start my own version of an "infertility diet". So, I'm going to be looking towards you for encouragement. :awink:

Dana~What your Dr. said certainly makes sense and I'm sure it makes you feel much better to know that there was nothing you could have done better or didn't do right. As always, :rolleyes: , it comes right down to those dang eggs. :box: Although I must say, your post did make me think: Of course for starters, my donor is doing it for her third time with my cycle. :(
But also, if it's taken your donor 3 IVF cycles to cause a depletion in her ovarian reserve, then what does that say about us women who've done well over 3 IVFs? :scratch:

Suzi~Hi Sweetie. :hi5:

I had a bit of a meltdown last week when I looked a my February calender. . .a ski trip, a business trip, a trip to Myrtle Beach that our inlaws are paying for, an acting gig, a band gig, a visit with my mom for a weekend, etc. I had not really been able to confirm anything because of this whole DE thing. Well, the pressure was on when people started asking me to confirm dates. Literally, pressure. :furious: I got very anxious and stressed and couldn't relax or sleep during my 3 days off around New Years. My anxiousness turned into anger when I realized that I had taken all my DE required yearly tests last March and if my DE transfer was pushed any further into March (by any of the various hexes someone is putting on me) :rolleyes:, would I have to re-do the Clomid Challenge test? :tearhair: So, when I returned to work on Tuesday, I made all my various calls and was told the same thing basically that I've been told over and over. They can not set anything up or talk to the donor until her screening is done and the tests come back (which is approx. 2 wks after the screening). And as I mentioned, she called in sick last week on her screening date and needed to be resheduled. Long story short, the nurse told me that I should tell them when I want it to happen, reminding me that if we are both on BCP, then they can "control" when stuff happens. So in short, I'm not going to do a transfer at the end of February and it'll most likely be the 1st or 2nd week in March. Also, I don't have to do any re-testing until after March 31st and I was assured that a transfer WOULD BE DONE NO LATER THAN MARCH 31. Well see. :eviltongu

Kimberly

Welcome Rifka and Kristen!
I'm not a huge fan of aspartame either but I had never heard a story as bad as the one you told, Suzi!
Kimberly - Sorry you're so frustrated. I hope that things get moving!!!

Quick update from me. I'm having a repeat c section on 1/30!

Amanda

Rifka, I´m sorry I missed you before! :welcome: and best of luck!

Andrea, Thanks a lot for the sweetner alternatives you gave me. Yesterday I went to my local grocery store and out of the 3 you mentioned they only carry Splenda... I bought a small pill dispenser (100) to use from time to time on my decaf cappuccinos, other drinks etc. But I don´t think I am going to use it until after the results of my IVF, because I want to be "completely sugar free" including good sugar additives throughout my current treatment and see if it makes a difference. All my previous attempts were with me consuming sugars (normally), so hopefully my sacrifice will make a difference for the better!

I must add that I read all the labels of the jams, mermelades, yougurts and some desserts that were "sugar free" and they ALL contained either aspartame (mayority) or some form of sweetner, such as fructose. I was disappointed, because I was hoping to find something totally sugar free, but with no alternative ways of sugar replacements... can´t they make stuff with natural fruit flavors without any additives??? :fado: I guess I notice it now, since I am totally concious about aspartame and sugars, as I wasn´t before. Hope I am not turning into a "health freak" :silly:

Dana, It just hit me, after reading Kim´s post that if you get depleated after 3 IVF´s... that could very well be the reason that many of us end up on DE cycles??? In my case, it wouldn´t apply because of my age (45), but it sure goes to show you that I had 2 of my final cycles were I produces excellent quaility eggs that made it all the way to blastos (not heard off for a woman my age, according to their clinical statistics). Then, suddenly on my following try I didn´t produce any at all and my endo refussed to even grow (for 2 more cycles)! It was almost as if my system had responded to get the last I had in storage (thru the hormones) and after that, shut down completely :blue: . Any way, I shouldn´t complaint, because God is granting me a new opportunity and I should be grateful, but it just registered after Kim´s comments to your post and felt like sharing it too.

Kim, Thank you, I think it is a pretty good and well balanced diet, although my DH, being a doctor is not too happy with the fact that I have cut out completely starches and sugars from my daily intake. He tells me that we need all food groups and that I am obssessing with this issue. However, I really want to do what I feel is right for me, and to prepare for my next transefer a few weeks away! After that, I will continue in the same healthy eating path, but will not be as rigorous with sugars and starches on occasion. Like you, I have always been very concious of what I put in my body and by many people around me I am considered a "health nut", but I tell them you look like what you eat... and it is a polite way to say look at yourself and shut up :lol:. The good thing is that they know I am not boasting, because I look younger in our group, than most women in their mid thirties and at 5´7" I still wear a size 4... eating healthy is simply a way of living and it definitely pays off :eat: And nothing wrong on cheating a bit on certain "special occasions", as long as we don´t make a habit of it. I am so happy to hear that you are now ready (again) to start your own version of "infertility diet"... You go, girl!!! I trust that you´ll do terrific! Try to sauté a variety of veggies (broccoli, green beans, asparagus, red pepper, cabbage, white onions) with some soy souce + a touch of oyster sauce and add some cashews to it and voilá!!! Sorry, I am getting carried away... encouranging you, but I love cooking and enjoy innovating :supergrin

Vyonne

Quick update from me. I'm having a repeat c section on 1/30!
Amanda

Amanda, Yeeeeeeeeeeessss... another Aquarius :ura1:!!!
You´ll do just fine and baby Jessica will finally come into your arms to fill you with happiness and tons of :hb:! You still have a few weeks to go... but you have my daily :pray: for an easy C/S and for everything to go smoothly :bighug:

Vyonne

Quick update from me. I'm having a repeat c section on 1/30!

That's good news right?

Thanks Vyonne and Kimberly! Pretty good news. We were considering VBAC but my ob recommended against it (she's actually very supportive of VBAC but doesn't think I should). I'm glad that we have things settled because Tom lives 200 miles away during the week so this makes things easier for him.

Amanda

We were considering VBAC but my ob recommended against it (she's actually very supportive of VBAC but doesn't think I should).
Amanda
Amanda, What VBAC stands for :blush:? I am guessing on the first 2 initials as Vaginal Birth? :confused:
Anyway, it sounds like C/S works best for you and DH, so I am very happy for you both :hug99:

Vyonne

Vyonne - VBAC is Vaginal Birth After C-Section I think. I meant to also tell you how impressed I am with your food changes. Was going to suggest maybe trying chopped apples and walnuts in plain yogurt, you are ok with fruit right? My best to you!!

Kimberly I am so sorry about the further delays :fado: (I love that smilie :heee: ) Any news on the Donor yet?

Andrea what an annoying 'friend'

Dana - I have been meaning to get over to your journal at BOLU..

Kerri I am excited for you! I've been stalking your journal for an update on you(hint) :shuffle:

Welcome Rifka and Kristen!

Hi Suzi, Carla, Angela, Dawn, and to anyone I inadvertently missed.

We are doing better, still tough going and very tough to see pregnant women sometimes. I think that too will subside in time. I realized we have a few issues to deal with, the loss of the boys and then the IF struggle and that we still are waiting to be parents to a baby here on earth. We can't of course do anything about the loss of the boys but I think we are getting ready to move forward with next steps for building our family. We set up a consult to talk about another cycle, likely an FET as we have 13 frosties. I am very nervous about all of it, right now it looks like I need to avoid a multiple pregnancy so we now have agonizing choices about how many to transfer..do we take our chances with 1 on an FET and plan to do a few cycles? Seems like sucess rates could be quite low or do we do 2 and pray 1 implants not both? I'm torn and hopefully my RE can help. I don't really know what the sucess rates at my clinic are for FET. I sort of think if one is going to stick its going to stick and thats that but, I just can't wait to be pregnant again and I am waiting for them to give me the ok though I am terrified as well. Tests that were done on the boys show that they were chromosomally and physically fine so while bittersweet that is a relief.

Vyonne - Judy was right. VBAC is vaginal birth after c section.
Judy - Obviously I've been following you over at BOLU, too. I didn't really you had so many frozen embryos. I hope you work out a good plan with your RE. When do you have your appt???? Still sending lots of hugs!

Amanda

The frosties are from 2 cycles - the first failed and the second that was the twins I just found the letter yesterday confirming the number it does seem like a lot but I don't know what the quality is or anything or if they are frozen in 2s 3s etc. Our appointment is 1/17. I will see both the OB and the RE that day then need to also do a consult with the Peri. Fortunately though my RE is at a private clinic he also works at the hospital where the Peri I am going to see next time is the Chief of Division of Maternal-Fetal Medicine so I am hoping that will make it easier for the two of them to collaborate on a plan. babbling sorry.

Tests that were done on the boys show that they were chromosomally and physically fine so while bittersweet that is a relief.
Judy, If all was fine, do they know what caused the loss? In my case the tests done on my twins showed a trisomy on chromosome 17 (not compatible with life), but was assured it is not a hereditary condition at all, so that gave me some relief as well.
I can relate to you completely, and fully understand your fears... a loss of a baby/babies is always something quite detremental and hard to disassociate with "future problems". My best advice is for you to trust in God, and give yourself another chance with an open heart, once you feel ready to start again. Think that your precious angels are now in heaven watching over you, and that they will not allow anything wrong to happen to their lovely mom. Also, if your FET ends up being for more than 1 embryo, don´t stress over it, just think that it will be God´s will to send you one or more this second time around. In spite of all my suffering, I have learned to be grateful with the new opportunities of having other IVFs, more so, having to do this time around a DE cycle. When I loss my twins (almost 3 years ago), they were my very own eggs and for a while I was very resentful with the fact that I would never again have that chance... with time, I found the serenity to understand that there was a Supreme reason for it, and I open my heart to believe that God would not leave my arms empty for very long. Three years have passed, many failed IVFs, almost completely depleted money wise, and zillions of tears shed... yet, here I am going for one more DE try and trusting that God will grant my most wanted wish of all... I have to have hope and trust in Him.
I know sweetie that for us, our little ones will always be in our hearts and minds, but we have to learn to smile again and to give "life" a chance to be...
My heart and prayers are with you and I embrace you dearly to help you in your healing process... :hug99: I wish you all the best on your next FET try!

PS Thank you Judy & Amanda for the meaning of VBAC :nod:

Vyonne

Although I must say, your post did make me think: Of course for starters, my donor is doing it for her third time with my cycle. :(
But also, if it's taken your donor 3 IVF cycles to cause a depletion in her ovarian reserve, then what does that say about us women who've done well over 3 IVFs? :scratch:
In general, I don't think 3 cycles or three donations is too many. There are a number of women on ivfconnections.com who's donors have donated (successfuly) 5 or 6 times. For our donor three times was too many. Its made me very wary about a 'proven' donor, but I have to keep telling myself our situation was very unusual.

I got two new donor profiles from our clinic. I don't think either one of them is a good option for us. Idealy my donor would be tall (I'm 6 feet tall), with red hair, fair skin and blue eyes like me. I know I'm not going to find someone as tall as me. I told the nurses 5'8" would be acceptable. I'm not going to find a redhead. A blonde would be great. Everyone in my family (and DH's family) has blue eyes. We would really like our child to have that too.

They sent me profiles for their two tallest donors. Both are 5'7" - not ideal, but I'll take it. Donor #1 has two children of her own (which is great) is blue-eyed and fair skined. But, she's only 5 years younger than I. In the 'real world', 31-32 years old isn't old. In the world of egg donors, it seems ancient. DH doesn't like the fact that all of her grand parents died of lung cancer. (All were smokers) So, she's out.

Donor #2 is young. We got to see childhood photos, and she was darling. However, she's got green eyes (they look more brown in the photos), brown hair and a dark complexion. So, none of the physical traits I want.

I'm going to talk with the nurse tomorrow and see if we can expand our search. *sigh* I just want to get started!

Dawn~:bighug:

Dana~I think I can understand what you're going through regarding your donor search. Remember that I had a lot of problems finding a donor who matched what I was looking for. :rolleyes: I know it's tough. . .I wish you all the best.

Kimberly

Has anyone ever used ZOLADEX instead of LUPRON??? Last Thursday I was supposed to start with Lupron, but there was a shortage of the med at the pharmacies, so my RE switched me at the last minute for ZOLADEX (british product)... The application of the shot was like no other, extremely painful :eek:. I had never seen such a thick needle in IVF treatments, to be applied subcutaneously on your belly (right below belly button). The nurse told me it had to be that thick because I would be receiving this time a powder-form med, instead of the usual liquid ones. I was sore for hours... glad I had to get only one :tearhair: !!!

Vyonne

Judy-Hopefully your RE can help you choose how many totsicles you want to use. I know that Because I have no history of problems my RE said he would prefer 1-2 fresh embryos or 2-3 frozen (if we have any or a failure) because of the success rates of FET's. :hug99:

Dana-It's to bad that donors dont list the physical attributes of their parents as a babys genetics comes from each genetic grandparent. Hopefully a better matched donor arrives for you soon. :hug99:

Rifka and Kirsten Welcome! :welcome:

Well I have had a couple bad days mixed with the busy days. We have been renovating our basement to make room upstairs because DH decided he didn't want the room I decorated for a nursery to be used as one. So we have to switch rooms not so bad because I have some different ideas now 3 years later. Then on saturday my mom called and one of my cousins passed on after a short battle with ovarian cancer. She was only 32 years old with two little boys. I feel so bad for them and my aunt who is also undergoing chemo round two and buried her son to cancer less then 3 months ago. The world seems to bleak right now to plan a nursery, I'd like to curl up and cry. Sorry to dump, I'm feeling a little lost.
Andrea

Well I have had a couple bad days mixed with the busy days. We have been renovating our basement to make room upstairs because DH decided he didn't want the room I decorated for a nursery to be used as one. So we have to switch rooms not so bad because I have some different ideas now 3 years later. Then on saturday my mom called and one of my cousins passed on after a short battle with ovarian cancer. She was only 32 years old with two little boys. I feel so bad for them and my aunt who is also undergoing chemo round two and buried her son to cancer less then 3 months ago. The world seems to bleak right now to plan a nursery, I'd like to curl up and cry. Sorry to dump, I'm feeling a little lost.
Andrea
Oh Andrea, I am sorry to hear that you are feeling a little lost with all the sad news around you, but that is what we are here for... so dump all you want, and it will make you fel better, letting it all out. Not everyday has to be a carnaval... things like these, makes us appreciate how fortunate we are and sometimes we don´t even realize it... Hope you feel better very soon :bighug:!!!

Vyonne

Vyonne~No, I've never heard of Zoladex. http://onceuponalife.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif

Andrea~http://onceuponalife.com/forums/images/smilies/sadhug.gif Life is just such a hard place sometimes. http://onceuponalife.com/forums/images/smilies/blue.gif

AF arrived on Saturday and so it was time for me, yet again, to call to find out whether or not I should start BCPs. Well, the answer was no. I am however, definitely starting BCP after my next AF. Thankfully, the donor made her screening appointment on Fridayhttp://onceuponalife.com/forums/images/smilies/ura1.gif and so now we wait about 14 days for the test results to come in. By the time all that happens, I'll have more than enough time to hold off starting BCP until my next AF (which will be the beginning of February). It's looking like there will be a transfer somewhere in the second or third week of March. Even though we're still talking about two months away, I'm feeling more confident about this actually happening than I have in the last year. http://onceuponalife.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Kimberly

It's looking like there will be a transfer somewhere in the second or third week of March. Even though we're still talking about two months away, I'm feeling more confident about this actually happening than I have in the last year. Kimberly

Kim, Thanks for letting me know you haven´t heard of that med. I just hope it does the work it is supposed to :dunno:.
I am so happy to hear that things are starting to move along for you :clap:... you are right 2 months away, its not that bad! You´ll see how in no time your transfer will be taking place, sweetie :hi5: I wish you all the best for things to continue moving right along :hug1:!

Vyonne

Welcome Rifka & Kristen!

Kim -- I am glad to hear that things are moving forward! I hope all goes well. I think that I may also be cycling in the first couple of weeks in March.

Andrea -- I am sorry that there are so many sad events around you right now. It seems like they come in groups & it sure makes a persons outlook gloomy.

Vyonne -- I actually found some stuff on the internet about Zoladex being used instead of Lupron in non-infertility tx & one of the comments on the site was that Zoladex is A LOT more painful of an injection than Lupron due to the type of shot & the location that it has to be given. I'm glad that you only had to have one!

As for me, I saw my OBGYN last week & he was pretty optomistic about a laproscopy possibly improving our chance because of possible endo or scar tissue from a c-section. Anyway, I am scheduled for that in a couple of weeks, then going on a family vacation next month, & starting IVF up again sometime in March.

Hi everyone, It's been a long while since I've posted, mainly because I hadn't started ivf yet. Finally started this month. My first injection was this past Saturday (3 Gonal F- 1 Repronex). Had an u/s this morning. Very disappointed with the number of follicles, only 7. This is so strange because with past Follistim/iui cycles, I always responded so well. My RE has increased my dose for tonight to 5 Gonal F & 1 Repronex, then a split tomorrow (2 Gonal F/1 Repronex), one in the morning and one in the evening. Same for Friday morning then back for another ultrasound. He said this way I'm getting an extra dose of the Repronex. My question to you is, can/does the # of follicles increase during the cycle? I thought just the size increased, but the number is whatever it is. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Trying to stay positive because I know that it only takes one, but I also know that there's a desired amount of follicles by the RE otherwise they may decide to not do the retrieval (that's what I remember hearing/reading) somewhere.

Vyonne -- I actually found some stuff on the internet about Zoladex being used instead of Lupron in non-infertility tx & one of the comments on the site was that Zoladex is A LOT more painful of an injection than Lupron due to the type of shot & the location that it has to be given. I'm glad that you only had to have one!

As for me, I saw my OBGYN last week & he was pretty optomistic about a laproscopy possibly improving our chance because of possible endo or scar tissue from a c-section. Anyway, I am scheduled for that in a couple of weeks, then going on a family vacation next month, & starting IVF up again sometime in March.
Carla, there is no doubt that ZOLADEX is A LOT :eek: more painful than Lupron. As I mentioned it before... I considered this shot the most painful ever!!! If I had a choice... I´d have it banned from the market!!! I was glad to have to get only one too!!! I :pray: this time things will work out for me...

So happy to hear about your RE´s optimism about your laparoscopy improving your chances... anything that we can ever do to gain an additional chance in this fight is always a blessing. Also, your family vacation will be great for when you get started with your cycle in March... you´ll be renewed and totally refreshed to start your new IVF. I wish you all the best :hug99: !!!

Okie, Happy to have you back with us! Like you, I have always known that onece you get started your cycle (ovulation), the number doesn´t vary... only the size. However, there some cases whereby, they may find new ones that they didn´t catch the first time around because they were hidden or perhaps were too small. But like they say: you only need 1 good one! So try to stay positive and hope for great quality and great continued growing for the 7 you have now and you may get pleasantly surprised! My :pray:s are with you!

Vyonne

Vyonne - Thanks. The hardest part right now is not becoming overly obsessed with finding information on the web. I have to remind myself that what will be, will be. It's all in God's hands. Thanks for the prayers. Sending prayers your way, as well as everyone else's way too.

Okie, in my personal experience the numbers of follies has increased considerably during the cycle - at my ultrasounds they only measure follies over 10mm so even if there are a bunch at 8 or 9 they would not be counted. I suspect you will have better news at your next u/s - I hope so. Though I do think they aim for 6-12 follies so you are right in the range. +++ Thoughts for you!

Kimberly, wonderful news on the donor's progress!!:ura1: love being able to use that smilie :heee:

Carla - Positive news that your RE is optomistic about the lap increasing chances for a sucessful cycle.

Andrea - so sorry to hear of the sadness in your family :bighug: I know what you mean about the world seeming so bleak. Have faith that it will get better and this is all worth it in the long run or you would not see people sticking around.

Dana - so sorry the donor search isn't yielding the perfect match. I can only imagine how frustrating that is. Hoping that you get some new referrals soon.

Vyonne - glad that you only had to have one of those horrid shots!

I'm gearing up for returning to work. Good days and bad, I think I am resigned to knowing I will feel this sadness and emptiness for a long time perhaps forever but try to find comfort in the tremendous joy that I felt when I had the babies with me. I set up my consult with the Peri for 2/13 so lets hope she has some positive suggestions and it is a lucky 13th for me. In the mean time I am working off some weight that settled in during my cycles and the pregnancy. blech.

:wavey: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#) to all.

Bloom - Thanks. I sure hope this is the case. The good thing is that I have another u/s on Friday, so we'll be able to check my progress. Typically only the follicles over 10mm were measured in my injectible cycles (non-ivf), but with ivf, I thought that they check & measure all visible follicles. Only one of the 7 were over 10, with most others being 8.6 (1-7 and 1-9). Hopefully some were just too small to be seen. Hopefully the increased dosage will help.

Judy, If all was fine, do they know what caused the loss? In my case the tests done on my twins showed a trisomy on chromosome 17 (not compatible with life), but was assured it is not a hereditary condition at all, so that gave me some relief as well.
I can relate to you completely, and fully understand your fears... a loss of a baby/babies is always something quite detremental and hard to disassociate with "future problems". My best advice is for you to trust in God, and give yourself another chance with an open heart, once you feel ready to start again. Think that your precious angels are now in heaven watching over you, and that they will not allow anything wrong to happen to their lovely mom. Also, if your FET ends up being for more than 1 embryo, don´t stress over it, just think that it will be God´s will to send you one or more this second time around. In spite of all my suffering, I have learned to be grateful with the new opportunities of having other IVFs, more so, having to do this time around a DE cycle. When I loss my twins (almost 3 years ago), they were my very own eggs and for a while I was very resentful with the fact that I would never again have that chance... with time, I found the serenity to understand that there was a Supreme reason for it, and I open my heart to believe that God would not leave my arms empty for very long. Three years have passed, many failed IVFs, almost completely depleted money wise, and zillions of tears shed... yet, here I am going for one more DE try and trusting that God will grant my most wanted wish of all... I have to have hope and trust in Him.
I know sweetie that for us, our little ones will always be in our hearts and minds, but we have to learn to smile again and to give "life" a chance to be...
My heart and prayers are with you and I embrace you dearly to help you in your healing process... :hug99: I wish you all the best on your next FET try!

PS Thank you Judy & Amanda for the meaning of VBAC :nod:

Vyonne

Dear Judy, I don´t mean to be a pest, but having been through a twins´ loss myself, I was quite concerned and worried when I read your post on Sunday, whereby you mentioned they found nothing wrong chromosomally nor physically with your little angels. That prompted me to ask what happened then, as I have a very "heavy" history of twins in my family line (mother´s side), with 9 pairs since my grandmother who was also a twin hereself.

Thought I´d resend my post in case it was overlooked by you. However, if you simply felt like not answering it... I totally respect and understand that and apologize for asking. Please let me reassure you of my prayers for your prompt recovery knowing that their sweet memory is what will give you new strength to move on in this life, and trust in the hands of God again... They will forever be watching over you! :bighug:

Vyonne

Dana - I'm sorry things are so frustrating with your donor search.
Vyonne - I'm familiar with Zoladex because we use it for prostate cancer (it's interchangeable with Lupron for that). When I worked at the city hospital in the Bronx, the patients with prostate cancer ALL took Zoladex because the company made it available for the poor and uninsured (for which we were very grateful!). It works the same as Lupron but I do remember the injections being painful. I just remember that it was very helpful to be able to get expensive cancer medications for poor people at a price that they could afford so I think highly of that company (not that it makes the injections less painful for you).
Andrea - I'm so sorry for all the losses you've had in your family.
Kimberly - Glad to hear some good news from you!!!
Carla - Good luck with the surgery!
Okie - Sorry you're feeling discouraged. Crossing everything for a lucky cycle!!!
Judy - I hope the return to work goes better than you expect.

I'm still sending prayers for all of the wonderful ladies in this group! May there be many healthy babies this year!!!!

Amanda

Amanda, Looking at ZOLADEX that way... I am happy of its existance and praise the company :bowdown:for their good deed, but I hope to NEVER have to use it AGAIN :dead: !!!
Only 19 more days until baby Jessica :suck: is on your arms :ura1: I bet you can´t wait! Thank you for your prayers... you´ve got mine too :hug1: . And like you, I also pray for MANY HEALTHY BABIES THIS YEAR :hb:
Vyonne

Vyonne - sorry I did just overlook that question - Thank you for reposting - sometimes there is so much going on in this thread! At this point it looks like it was more than likely something called Incompetent Cervix (IC) or unknown cause of PTL. I will know more after tuesday when I meet with the Dr but in the hospital the high risk OB mentioned that sometimes the hormones of a twin pregnancy triggers labor to just start early or the Cervix to soften prematurely. IC from what I have found generally means that the cervix dialates early and without any pain or anything - which seems like it is what occured in my case. I felt nothing, noted no changes etc until around 6 am that morning when I felt some cramping which I attributed to funny gas pains. The pains got worse right around 8:30 (I had showered, gone to work etc) when I went to the restroom and my water broke. By 9 I was at the hospital and dialated to 5 cm and there was nothing they could do.

More than likely for future pregnancies I will get something called a cerclage which is a stitch in the cervix to help it better support the pregnancy and close monitoring on my cervix to watch for any changes. That is particularly why I am very concerned about getting pregnant with twins again. I hear that it can be managed but I think overall it would be much safer for me and any future babies to come one at a time.

I guess in retrospect, I would encourage EVERY pregnant woman to request a vaginal u/s around 19 weeks to check for cervical leingth and any funneling. In my case we asked during our level II u/s and they checked through abdominally which I find now doesn't give a very accurate picture. Ironically this u/s was at the high risk Dr etc. I plan now on getting the new Dr's agreement for how we will monitor this in feb when I see her - before even cycling. I want regular checks through vaginal u/s bi weekly

Judy, Thank you so much for answering my question. My first thought was that you had perhaps overlooked it, as I figured that could easily happen... so I understand :nod: .

What you are sharing with us, is something that its new to me on twin pregnancies. Your unfortunate experience, is very helpful for any of us, in the event of getting a twin pregnancy. I had heard about the procedure you mention (cerclage) on pregnancies that are of 3 or more, but never on twin pregnancies. Thank you so much for your detailed information, it is something I will definitely pass around. It is ashame to lose babies that otherwise are perfectly healthy, due to the lack of a vaginal u/s and/or an additional stitch in the cervix (if necessary). Does it fall in the category of negligence?

It was not my intention to remove your tender wounds, but I believe that sharing our good as well as our bad experiences, can help other future IVF women to be better prepared in this stressful and sometimes uncertain IVF road, before and after. Although, this may be more of a fortuitous happening, now I better understand your "fear" to having another twin pregnancy :sadhug:

The loss of a baby, regardless of the cause, is always very hard and I know that when I lost my babies, I felt as if the world had come to an end. I tried to find comfort in the fact that there was something very wrong with them and even then, I rejected all reasoning... I just wanted them alive and with me. Little by little, I learned that I would never forget them, but that I could live with it, giving them a very special place in my heart, a very private part of my heart will forever belong to them. Oh Judy, just thinking of what has happened to you, literally makes me heartsick :( I pray to God you´ll soon find all the confort you may need, to place your little ones in your "heart memory" and learn again to trust and move on with life! Otherwise, we´d go totally crazy and would miss on the opportunity to find happiness once again :hug99:

Vyonne

Vyonne :sadhug: Thank you and I very much if agree that sharing this stuff can hopefully help someone else avoid this I want to do so. Just want to clarify one thing, I'm not advocating the stitch for every twin pregnancy, I know for me because of the loss it is something I will have but the most important part is the close monitoring of the cervix for funneling and changes. Then your medical team can intervene.

I don't think this was neglegence, I think maybe we all could have been more cautious but there were no signs that anything was wrong. I felt great. Now that we know PTL is a risk for me monitoring will be required for any future pregnancy. To the best of my knowledge they don't have tests or anything to indentify who is at risk before a loss. Though a girl who posts in my journal noted that with her OB any woman who has had IVF is considered high risk for PTL (pre term labor)

something to keep in mind - but there is a balance - there are many woman who have achieved pregnancy through IVF and gone on to have full term healthy babies. Conversely there are women who concieved singletons without medical intervention and have had early losses. Its just a horrible thing. I am so sorry for your loss too. I know what you are describing the feeling the world had ended. That you are cycling now gives me great comfort and encourages me I can go on.:hug99:

Thank you

Just a quick update - RE has cancelled my cycle. 7 follies from Wednesday have decreased in # to 3. Wants me to start prometrium (1x per day for 10 days) then call when period begins. U/S will follow, the progesterone blood level, then lupron. Definitely no bcp next time as I was overly suppressed this cycle. Can't tell you how disappointed I am right now especially since I've always responded so well to meds (almost too good), but what can I do.

Okie, I know how frustrating it is but don't be too hard on yourself... When I had a cancelled cycle, my RE explained to me that some cycles are just sub-par to others and when you do IVF, sometimes you tap into one of those cycles. Much like sperm take 100 days to mature from start to finish, follicles also start to develop well before each monthly cycle. Hang in there and better luck for next time!

Judy, Once again I appreciate your sharing and clarifying things. And you are right, the close monitoring of the cervix is very important. It is also true, that if there are no signs of anything wrong, there is no such a thing as a test to identify a possible risk. Lets just pray that this next time around, we will be fortunate enough once pregnant, get to a healthy, full and successful term. I am happy to know that my cycling now, gives you comfort and encourages you to go on... good for you sweetie! :hug1:

Okie, I am sorry to hear that things didn´t turn out as you wanted/expected them this cycle :sadhug: . Having a low number of follicles always lessens your success chances and stresses you... so look at it this way: Next time around your system will be better prepared, therefore your response will be better (as before), and your bigger quantity follies will ease your mind throughout the process! In no time you´ll be cycling again!!!
Having been at this for awhile has tought me that patience and a lot of faith is a MUST :nod: I wish you all the best for your next cycle! :hug99:

Vyonne

I'm sorry Okie. :sad: Hopefully your new protocal will do the trick! :crossfing

Kimberly

Okie :hug99:I am so sorry to hear about the cancellation. Do something really nice for yourself and hang in there. I hope that the elimination of the BCP leads to a positive cycle next for you.

Hi,
I found your group while searching the net and would love to join. I am awaiting insurance approval for my first IVF. I've had 5 clomid cycles and 4 injectible IUI cycles. I have pcos and my husbands motility isn't very good. I am very excited to take the next step. This seems like such a supportive and caring group...Kristin

Wow! I have missed so much in here. This is a very busy place lately.

Welcome to all the newbies. I think you will really like coming here to "talk".

Okie~I am sorry they had to cancel your cycle. Your next try will be here before you know it.
Kim~ Wow, you will be a very busy woman soon. Your cycle is just around the corner too.


As for me, got all my meds ordered today will be Fed Exed and will be here mon. I start lupron next friday. :woa:

Have a nice weekend everyone!

Angela, VERY EXCITING!!! :woo:

Welcome Krissy! We are happy to have you and wish you great success! If you have any questions at all, just ask away!!

Oh Yeah...I keep forgetting to post some news... I repeated the Annexin V IgG and IgM testing that I had done last summer for the THIRD and FINAL time. Wonder of all wonders...it came back ABNORMAL!! For sure I will be on heparin for this IVF and I will likely have to take a baby aspirin every day for the rest of my life. I have yet to do much research on it but I will find out more soon - it's been a CRAZY week!!

Okie - I'm so sorry!
Kristin - WELCOME and GOOD LUCK!
Angela - HOORAY!!!
Suzi - Wow! That is big news.

Amanda

As for me, got all my meds ordered today will be Fed Exed and will be here mon. I start lupron next friday. :woa:

Angela, That sure is great news :rahrah: !!! We are going to be only a couple of weeks apart :hug1: this cycle, that I sure hope will be D ONE for both of us:crossfing

Krissy, :welcome: ! We are happy to see "our family" grow!

Suzy, I am not familiar with your test and the results thrown, but I wish you all the best, so that you can soon start treatment :hug99:.

My update... yesterday I went to see my RE and he checked my donor because her AF was delayed. At first I was concerned, but my Doc told me that her delay would work to my advantage, giving my endo a bit extra time to grow :nod:, so now I feel pretty good. My AF should come in the next couple of days and the day after, I start taking pills to aid my endo grow. Still taking my Baby Aspirin and Folic Acid too.

This little delay may cause for my transfer to fall on the third week of February, right about my Wed. Anniversary :hb: (Feb 14) and my Birthday (Feb 16). Thought that would definitely make both dates much more special if I get my most desired BFP! I still can´t believe how close I am getting to this new opportunity God has granted me! My diet is still coming along just great! By the way... did you guys know that Squid is a great source of calcium??? I just found that out, so now I am adding it simply steemed into my salads... yum :chef: !
On another token, has any heard how Cindy is doing? Since announcing her pgcy didn´t post again. Also, Sarah... how are you feeling lately??? A big hug to both of you and my best wishes for a great pregnancy :bighug:

Vyonne

Okie-I am so sorry to hear they cancelled on you. Praying they work out your protocols for a sucsessful cycle on this next one.

Suzi-Do you know yet when your going to be able to do your next cycle? How are Chris' test results coming along?

Angela-Awesome news!

Yvonne-Sorry your cycle didn't happen sooner but the timing for this one was off for a reason. Perhaps it's so that you can get the best gift for your birthday! I know thats what I'm thinking on my cycle, all the delays and crap we went thru to get here was so that my 29th (ick) BDay will be the best one because we will have conceived the day before!

Welcome Krissy!

Amanda-How many more days until Baby Jessica is here? Your very close now!!!

Kimberly-You and I girl are going to be cycling at around the same time! Two months seems like close to forever right now but I'm praying time speeds up!

Welcome Krissy!

Angela that is great news - everything will probably go very fast for you from here on out!!!

Suzi, I'm glad you got some conclusive results!

Vyonne - sorry to hear about the delay but that is great news that it will work to your advantage - Glad to hear the diet is going well - I had no idea about squid but of course I only like it fried so that's probaby not such a good choice :noqueno: . I think and hope it is a great sign that your dates are lining up with other very happy events in your life!

Andrea - I hope time speeds up and you are geting very excited for your cycle

I am looking forward to my OB and RE appointments on Tuesday of this week. I'll have one more consult with the Peri in Feb but I am hoping to get more info on the sucess of FET's at my clinic and hopefully some more information that will let us plan our next steps. I am feeling better about everything daily. It is amazing to me what a healer time really can be. Of course I have many meltdown moments, mostly when someone asks me how I am but overall I think both DH and I have pretty much accepted there is nothing we can do about our loss and we are both anxious to continue to work to buid our family.

Andrea, Thanks, I know it can be the pits, but let´s hope for both of us it is a "good omen" the delay we have encountered this cycle :thumbsup:. Now as the time passes I can only think ONE MORE YEAR for my biological clock :disbelief... so while you say "ick" for 29, just imagine what I say for 46! I know that now that I am on DE age doesn´t matter, but still better hurry... don´t ya think :lol:??? Patience my dear, time will sure speed up and in no time you´ll be laying there for your transfer!

Judy, Thank you, and I have to agree with you, I think it is wonderful "happy events" are lining up for me. Plus, three times is a charm... Transfer, Anniversary & Birthday :nod: ! You are cute about the squid... I don´t think fried is such a good idea :lol:, but you´d be surprised of how good it is steemed or lightly tossed over a drop of olive oil... you´ve gotta try it :eat:!
I am happy to hear that time is helping you in your healing process... I know its not easy, but it sure is a good begining :hug99:. Just remember that you don´t have to forget them... you just have to place them in that "special part" of your :hb:, where you can go in and out and remember they will forever be a part of you!

Vyonne

Hello ladies!

I´d like to share an interesting article I came accross, while researching more on the healthy diet I´m on, which is high on Omega 3 & 6
Please go on this link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1831519.stm
There were also others that corroborated the same findings, so I thought it was worth to it check out...

Vyonne

I just wanted to let everyone know that I will probably not be able to post for the next few weeks. My Uncle (who is like a father to me) has been critically ill for the last week and I have been spending my time running to work and to the hospital and just when he was improving he has taken a turn for the worse and will need an additional surgery. Which they will perform in the next hour. I have not had time to read all the post, so I apologize in advance if I miss any ones great news.

Vyonne, I am extremely happy for you and wish you the best of luck and send loads of baby dust your way.

Dawn

Oh Dawn, I am so sorry to hear about your uncle´s illness and next sudden surgery :sadhug: . My prayers are with you, and I hope you´ll soon have good news of his complete recovery for us.

Thank you for sharing my happiness and for all the good luck and baby dust you are sending my way... I sure NEEDED and very much appreciate it!

Vyonne

Just thought I would drop in on you all.... most of you are new faces and wouldn't remember me.... but Suzi and a few others might... I lurk here all the time, (haven't subbed... yet) cheering you all on....

I did IVF back in 2002 and my DS was born June 2003. We will be doing an FET in March or April.

Ummmmmmm............NICKI!!!!!
:ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1:
WOW!! How is Zander??? I bet he is just cute as a bug - he was always such a precious boy!! I am excited that you are doing an FET and even more excited that you are here with us!! Hope you'll stick around - I'd LOVE to hear how you've all been doing!!

:yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee:

I'm thinking about sticking around Suzi.... I shouldn't--- I spend too much time online as it is.... but I am really considering it....

Xander is well... He is getting so big.... He is such a little man!

We are so excited about the FET, but nervous too.... I'm sure you know the feeling...

Like I said I am thinking about subbing, and I will make a decision soon..... but regardless I will be lurking...

Kristen~:welcome: You're right! This is a supportive and caring group and I wish you all the best.

Suzi~This is great that you're pin pointing every possible issue and taking steps to remedy them. When you say that you have yet to do much research, I can only imagine that you'll put yourself into this as if you're writing a thesis. . .and that, I think, is just awesome. :thumbsup: :bighug:

Vyonne~Even with the minor delay, it sounds like things are moving along quite well. Put in this way, you should be done with your DE IVF well before me and I started this process in March 2005! And I expect to be following right behind your lead with a BFP! :heee: That's great that your diet is coming along well. I'm doing a bit of a detox diet right now. I'm not on BCP or anything right now so this is good opportunity for me to do some internal cleansing. I loooove squid/calamari. :eat: Thank for the healthy diet link.


Kimberly-You and I girl are going to be cycling at around the same time! Two months seems like close to forever right now but I'm praying time speeds up!

Andrea~:banana:

Judy~I'm so glad that you're doing well. That great attitude never hurts and can only be beneficial for your next time. :bighug:

Dawn~:blue: :hug99:

Nicki~I think I remember you. :) Welcome back. I hope you have time to pop your head in.


Nothing new with me really. I'm emotionally feeling better right now, which is good. :thumbsup: Although I'm still "waiting", it's not like before when it was hung up in paperwork. So, hopefully the next 2 months will fly by painlessly and without much drama for me. :rolleyes:

Kimberly

Kim, You are right! things are moving along for my DE and I am quite excited:ura1: . Oh sweetie, I sure hope to start the lead for BFPs... from your lips to God´s ears :pray:!!!

It is good that you are feeling emotionally better :clap: ... remember that your frame of mind and heart are very important when in theses treatments :nod:. The next two months are sure going to fly by and in no time you´ll be starting your long waited DE cycle too :hug99:

Its unbelievable all the "nutrional values & highlights" I am finding out about fish and shellfish. I always liked certain shellfish such as calamari, shrimp, lobster & scallops and they are loaded with vitamins, so I am adding them steemed or broiled to my salads too :lick:. Now that I have time on my hands (not working), I spend a lot of time searching the web and I found another interesting link: http://www.themetasystem.com/healthnotes.cfm?&org=jsi&ContentID=1857005 where you type on the little "search health info" box the name of the shellfish you want to get more info on, and bingo! It even gives you recipes, but for now, I am most interested in finding out their values then anything else.

Vyonne

Hello Ladies,
Dawnie-I'm so sorry to hear about your Uncle. You and your Uncle are in my thoughts and prayers, take care.:hug99:
Judy-I'm glad to hear your healing process is progressing, and that your looking forward to the future.:hug99:
Nicki-:welcome:Back, Looking forward to your FET!
Yvonne-What I wouldn't give for unbreaded calimari with tzat. Or some Crab meat, I cant wait to get home and cook for myself again! The caft. food here is gross! Thanks for all the info on seafood, in answer to an earlier post though about seafood is that eating seafood doesn't cause problems but the week before retreival you shouldn't eat high food poisining foods (:puke: )as poisining can cancel a cycle. I too cant wait for the BFP's to start kicking off the New Year!

Kim-Counting the day chicky, until your BFP+ as mine should be right behind it!!!!:rahrah:

Angela-Baby dust Honey, Baby Dust! Hope the Lupron shots aren't to bad for you. It'll all worth it when you hold your baby praying hard for you!:banana:

Well, I'm just about :yippee:jumping with excitement as the clinic called to let us know to put the deposit on the cycle as it's confirmed! Nothings gonna stop us now!!!!! My compulsive shopping has just skyrocketed! Not only did I purchase an IVF guided meditation Disk and another book (THe Wayword stork, The couples guide to Successful IVF was good for information but most of it I got from here), but now I'm gearing up to decorate the other room for a nursery so that as soon as we have a BFP we can get to work. I'm not going to start decorating until we have our BFP as the other room is a terrible reminder that we waited three years to fill it. Only 69 more sleeps til retreival.

Andrea, Yeeeeesss!!! Great news on your call from the clinic... you are right girl, nothing is going to stop you now :yippee: ... good for you!!!

I have a question regarding your comment on seafood... is all seafood considered high poisoning :eek: ? After reading all the goodness of seafood, I am surprised by your post. In my case being in a DE cycle, I don´t have to worry about eating it throughout my cycle, because I only go for a Transfer, as they Retrieve from my Donor, right??? By the way, where is home for you? Nothing like home-cooked meals :lick: !

I prayers for you are so that you can start decorating your nursery very, very soon :knitting: and that we get thos BFPs rolling :hug99:!!!

Vyonne (Such a hard name not to get mixed up with Yvonne :lol:)

I have a question regarding your comment on seafood... is all seafood considered high poisoning :eek: ? After reading all the goodness of seafood, I am surprised by your post. In my case being in a DE cycle, I don´t have to worry about eating it throughout my cycle, because I only go for a Transfer, as they Retrieve from my Donor, right??? By the way, where is home for you? Nothing like home-cooked meals :lick: !


If you're pregnant, they say you should stay away from certain types of seafood due to possible Mercury levels. The seafood tends to be the larger fish, the ones that eat a lot of the smaller fish. . . .Swordfish, Shark, etc.
Here are two articles I found, but there are tons.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/48/39254?src=Inktomi&condition=Being%20Pregnant

http://pregnancytoday.com/reference/articles/seafood.htm

Kim

Kim, Thank you soooooo much for the 2 very interesting links! Boy, do I still have so much to learn :disbelief! I was simply avoiding TUNA, because I knew of its high Mercury contents, but after reading the articles you posted... there so much more to it :faint:. I can´t remember who posted in the previous thread: "The more I learn... the less I know", what a great quote... I am now begining to feel just like that myself! Here I am trying to eat "optimum" foods and I am being extremely careful to stay 100% healthy, but now I am finding out that shellfish is better avoided when TTC or PG??? But on the other hand I had just found out about all the vitamins, proteins and other good things it provides you with :dunno: .

As I mentioned before, I had been consuming only fish & shellfish for many years (19) along with veggies, fruits, cereals, etc., and had discarted red meats, pork & poultry, for all that time as a conscious choice of living. So now I wonder if I should start to go back (gradually) to eating some poultry, maybe? Because I gather, the more fish/shellfish I eat the greater my chances of contamination :owow:. Kim, I know that you are very much into this diets and health issues, could you please give some advice??? Also anyone who knows about nutrition or has some comments... please give me your insight! All I want is a healthy, well balanced diet to follow without so many paradigms!

Vyonne

Vyonne - you may be able to request a blood test for mercury levels - also it is my understanding that farm raised fish with the exception of salmon are generally safer. If you want to still get the omega's without eating as much seafood there are some good supplements. I take http://www.nordicnaturals.com/ Ultimate Omega for my Crohn's and they have some independent testing results for purity on their site. Also I am not sure where you live but I wonder if many of these toxins are in fish caught near the US? Not sure but I thought that fish in northern waters are less toxic.

I met with my RE and my OB yesterday. We will be preping for an FET of a single embie sometime in March. We have not yet fully decided we are emotionally ready to go but we can get some of the testing he wants done now in prep and if we choose to defer the cycle - no problem. Still not a clear diagnosis - looks like IC but no way to conclusively know, could have also been my uterus was just at its max or just something that sadly occurs more frequently that you might think with twins. Scary that they do not know. I am shopping Peri's now tryinig to find someone who will do anything and everything to help me get to term. Chances for a sucessful cycle with 1 FE are about 18-20% but the RE explained that a lot of that is just which is the right embie so I am preparing myself that it may take some cycles.

Judy, Thank you for your insight on my "fish issue" :rolleyes:. I´m currently living in Lima, Peru since 2001 (going back to the States in late Spring) and here there aren´t places or entities to consult about the raising of the animals you consume. Out here everything is taken quite casual and its not like in North America or Europe where this issues are well protected and taken seriously. Most items don´t even have a Nutrition Values listed on the packaging. Luckily, I pretty much consume fresh foods and I am very careful wher I buy my groceries and stuff. For now, I´ll be more careful about my fish consumption, but until I am back in the States... there isn´t much I can do. Thank you for the article sent, I am going to find out if they ship overseas and maybe go that route in the mean time.

Its nice to hear that you are taking the steps to prepare for your FET possibly in March. Although I bet it is uncomfortable not knowing what exactly happened, I am sure your RE will monitor you closely next time around. My thoughts and prayers are with you, so that when you are ready, you´ll go for your FET trusting in God and giving yourself a new opportunity... but only when you are truly ready, with no pressures of any sort. It is also good that your RE has given you the perecentages of success, so that you are fully prepared and can have the right expectations. I m very proud of you darling :hug99:.

Vyonne

Good Morning!

Vyonne-Sorry about the name thing! So used to the other way around! With the fish and seafood issue: all meat/poultry/seafood has the ability to poison us if it is stored improperly or cooked improperly. Don't panic! The only reason my RE told me to stay away is because I eat high levels of seafood/fish which commonly before going to market are not stored properly, so I should avoid Seafood and fish including sushi for the week of transfer /retreival because constant hurling makes Transfer difficult. The highest risk seafoods are commonly clams/oysters/shrimp. If your eating anything that tastes metal-spit it out (like you bit into a baking pan) I've had food poisining a few times so my risk of getting it are higher because my immune system doesn't fight off bad foods where others will only get a stomach ache or worse. Other than Mercery levels seafood is good for you. Judy's right about Northern fish having less levels of Mercery and other pollutants because of our lack of industry to pollute the waters here, (Arctic Char from the Nunavut region is really good). Here being the Northwest Territories of Canada. Home for me is Yellowknife but I work in a camp 240 miles from home for 2 weeks every month and the food here is awful! There really isn't anything better than home cooked!

Andrea, No big deal... I´m so used to almost everyone getting it mixed up, but still like to make people aware they always do :biggrin:

Thanks for the tips on the seafood. I guess, I´ll just have to be more concious about the risks one can have :woa: and stay far away from high Mercury content fish! I don´t like oysters and only eat clams on clam chowder, but they don´t have it or even know how to make it out here in Peru :disbelief ... shrimp I like, but don´t eat it much. I know I have a pretty good stomach, because I close to never get sick from food... and I hope to stay that way. Do you know why smoked fish is not recommended either? One of my favorite food is smoked salmon. Like you, I can´t wait to go back home... but for good!

Vyonne

Vyonne~I love seafood myself and probably eat it at least 6X a week. Of course living in Boston, it's easy to find good fresh seafood. I also worked for a restaurant called "Legal Seafoods" which basically set the FDA standard for seafood before seafoods were regulated. Sadly, I'm terrible at giving explanations as to why one type of fish is better over the other. Hopefully, this article will explain it better than I can.

http://www.americanbaby.com/ab/story.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/ab/story/data/9226.xml&catref=AB2&page=2

Judy~ I hope to be doing a transfer in March myself :crossfing , but certainly, if you don't feel ready, you need to take the time you need. You know I'm always wishing you the best. :hug99:

The only reason my RE told me to stay away is because I eat high levels of seafood/fish which commonly before going to market are not stored properly, so I should avoid Seafood and fish including sushi for the week of transfer /retreival because constant hurling makes Transfer difficult. The highest risk seafoods are commonly clams/oysters/shrimp. If your eating anything that tastes metal-spit it out (like you bit into a baking pan) I've had food poisining a few times so my risk of getting it are higher because my immune system doesn't fight off bad foods where others will only get a stomach ache or worse. Other than Mercery levels seafood is good for you. Judy's right about Northern fish having less levels of Mercery and other pollutants because of our lack of industry to pollute the waters here, (Arctic Char from the Nunavut region is really good). Here being the Northwest Territories of Canada. Home for me is Yellowknife but I work in a camp 240 miles from home for 2 weeks every month and the food here is awful! There really isn't anything better than home cooked!

:eek: You poor thing. You definitely don't want to be hurling before a transfer. :heee: My husband is similiar in that he'll have stomach "issues" for worse than me if we've accidently eaten something undercooked or bad or something. Another thing I've heard is that if fresh fish smells like fish, it's starting to turn. Fresh, uncooked seafood shouldn't smell "fishy". I'm so particular about my seafood that when I go to the market, I ask to smell it before I purchase it. Other than frozen stuff (like shrimp) I never buy pre-packaged seafood. :nono:


Updates from me: My donor's screening results should have come back yesterday. No, I didn't call and double check as much as I wanted to. The IVF clinic is supposed to call me as soon as they've gone over her results as we should now be able to narrow down timelines more specifically. I guess if I don't hear from them by this coming Tuesday, I'll call. . .just in case the screening results happen to be sitting under a pile of papers somewhere. You just never know? :dunno: :rolleyes:

Kimberly

Kim, Like you, my seafood consumption is at least 6X per week. So, I am most grateful with the info you are providing me with. To be safe, I will try to stick with the smaller fish and Salmon and will definetely stay away from one of my favorites: Smoked Salmon / Lox (vacuumed sealed):blue: . This last article you´ve sent, certainly explains the reasons why one should stay away from it, and I am not about to take any chances... I even passed the articles you sent to my RE. My RE is one of the most recognized doctors in his field out here, and yet he hadn´t heard anything about this subject and became most interested when I mentioned it to him. Most people out here think that I am arrogant and/or spoiled (except for our close friends) because of my constant "no thank you" :noqueno: and my very selective eating habits. I guess because out here in Peru, for some reason people are not as meticulous about what they eat... its a pretty relaxed country where most people eat at corner stands without prejudice :disbelief and are also big meat eaters. Therefore, they don´t understand I come from a totally different culture and my system would not resist bacteria like theirs, due to their usual habits... oh well, my health is before my trying to please everyone... specially now that I am TTC!

On another token, I am so sorry the IVF clinic is still making you bite your nails about every step of the way. I´d like to give them a piece of my mind :fado: . My thoughts and prayers are with you, for a positive reply on your Donor´s screening and to finally get the set date you´ve been waiting for :hug99: !

Vyonne

Hi Girls!! I am all caught up. Took me awhile but I did it!!

I am not much of a seafood person. I can do shrimp, tuna, calamari, and fried clams and that's about it.

I did my first lupron injection last night and it went well. I should get AF sometime next week and then I call for an appointment for a baseline U/S.

Well I made a very difficult decision and I hope it was the right one. I decided to take this semester off from school. So I dropped my class. When I had signed up for school I was originally told I wouldn't have IVF coverage till Jan 2007, but as most of you know that was incorrect and I have coverage now in Jan 2006. Which is great news and was a pleasant suprise. I just feel that working full time with a 1.5 hour drive, then school 2 nights a week till 9pm and 7pm, studying, keeping a household running it would be too much and I am afraid it might have a negative impact on my cycle. I just feel that this is my priority right now, to have this baby, I have to give it my all. School will always be there and I fully intend to go back. In my life at this point after 4 years of TTC, this is my number one priority.

Kim~Hope you get news soon!
Judy~Hope the dr's apt went well.
Nicki~I remember you as well. I used to be Ang1776 at UB. Welcome and good luck with your FET!

Hi Suzi, Andrea, Vyonne, Andrea, Amanda, Kristen

Angela, I think you made a wise, albeit difficult decision. I know that you will pursue your new profession, even if it takes a little longer to get there.

Starting Lupron...retrieval is around the corner! :yippee:

I did my first lupron injection last night and it went well. I should get AF sometime next week and then I call for an appointment for a baseline U/S.

Well I made a very difficult decision and I hope it was the right one. I decided to take this semester off from school. So I dropped my class. When I had signed up for school I was originally told I wouldn't have IVF coverage till Jan 2007, but as most of you know that was incorrect and I have coverage now in Jan 2006. Which is great news and was a pleasant suprise. I just feel that working full time with a 1.5 hour drive, then school 2 nights a week till 9pm and 7pm, studying, keeping a household running it would be too much and I am afraid it might have a negative impact on my cycle. I just feel that this is my priority right now, to have this baby, I have to give it my all. School will always be there and I fully intend to go back. In my life at this point after 4 years of TTC, this is my number one priority.



Angela~I'm psyched to hear that you've started your cycle. :clap: I think you did the right thing. E gads, a 1.5 hour drive! :eek: I'm upset with my 40 min. drive. :rolleyes: It sounds like your life is very busy and in the end, we all have to prioritize what's the most important thing for us. I'm wishing you all the best. :crossfing

Kimberly

Angela, Grrrrrrrrreat news :ura1: I am so happy to hear that you are on the wagon! Regarding your school decision, I totally agree with you :nod:... school will always be there for you to go back to, and now you need to focus on your cycle. Best of luck :bighug: the race has just began...

Vyonne

Good luck Angela! It would have been really difficult to do both since these appointments are crazy. You will have nine months to take classes when you are pg!

Angela :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: Not to long now and you will be going for retreival! Baby Dust, Sticky Embies and all of the prayers I can send your way Hon!!!!! You'll have lots of time when your BFP to go back to school and finish, focus on getting yourself BFP for now!

Kerry-Isn't your cycle starting here in the next couple of weeks? I thought it was the end of Jan beginning of Feb?

Kim-:crossfing they get back to you ASAP!

Well I found myself a cycle buddy on another board. She is doing a DE cycle at the same clinic and she's 15 days or so behind me. After we "Talked" I decided that if everything goes good with this cycle and resulting BFP I'm going to donate eggs. Canada has got a new crappy law that says you have to find your own donor and they have to do it from the goodness of their heart and not for profit. While I agree people should not take advantage of others, but now people wont even volunteer to donate eggs. It makes me so :furious: that in a free country they can tell us that you can't rely on a matched DE program through your fert clinic because your breaking the law! What crap! Anywho its freaking cold here now :cold: due to the weather and all I want is to get home and open my protocols package which should be there on Wednesday and curl up with my fur babies! Three more sleeps till hometime!
Andrea

I decided that if everything goes good with this cycle and resulting BFP I'm going to donate eggs.
You are my hero! I'm having a hard time finding a donor. I cannot imagine how difficult it would be if I had to find my own donor, and if she didn't recieve compensation.

Thanks Ladies, you made me feel so much better about my decision. I just felt so overwhelmed thinking about it and I hadn't even started school yet. So I know it was a good decision.

Questions:

Where do you usually inject the lupron? I have been doing it in my belly, below my belly button. Is there any other areas I can do it, such as my thighs or arms?

Also , I have been thinking about doing a detoxifying cleasing system. I read somehere on the internet that it could be beneficial before doing an IVF cycle. And if yes, and recommendations for products?

That's it for now, I am sure I will have more as I go along.

Where do you usually inject the lupron? I have been doing it in my belly, below my belly button. Is there any other areas I can do it, such as my thighs or arms?

My RE wants all subQ shots in the belly. IMs can be done in the hip or the thigh.

Andrea- I don't know how you spend so much time away from home! That is a really sucky law! That is probably limiting a lot of people from using DE! Do you know who you will be donating for?

Thanks for asking about me. I am starting my cycle in May. Losing weight now and exercising, taking herbs and doing acupuncture. I want to give this the best shot that I have in me!

Angela -- How exciting to finally be starting up! My RE also wants all subQ shots in the belly, though I do try to rotate spots to minimize irritation, especially if you are doing your stims subQ.

Andrea -- It sounds like it will be VERY difficult for anyone in Canada to use DE. It is a big commitment for a woman to go through that & I see nothing wrong with compensating someone for all her time & pain & suffering from going through a cycle.

Angela-I agree with Carla on rotating spots to reduce irritation. Praying for your successful retreival!

Dana-Have you checked out ivfconnections.com? apparently there is a donor board there. The donor board at ivf.ca only has one or two canadian donors left. Big hug and I hope you find the right donor soon.

Kerri-I dont know who I'd donate for yet. I'll post on the donor board when I am ready to donate. Hopefully next year if we have a baby this year, if not I might do a shared cycle where half the eggs go to someone else. I to am trying to lose weight for this cycle to, it's tough, hang in there it'll be so worth it! May is just around the corner it'll be here before you know it! I can't wait to be a SAHM, this 2 on 2 is starting to wear on me!

Karla-The new law says you can be reimbursed for recieptable items travel, hotels, drugs but you cant profit from donating. It's crap. I'm sure people are finding ways around the law but it has slowed the donor rates down drastically. It was so much easier for people before when they could go thru the clinics.

Andrea - what a wonderful and generous thing to do! Kudos to you! So sorry to hear about that crummy law.

Angela - very good decision. You had a lot on your plate! We did all our sub q's in the belly too. I had tried the thigh once and the belly was actually easier and I felt it less. (I guess I have more padding there :shuffle:

Kimberly - did you hear anything yet from the clinic? I am hoping things are still moving in the right direction and will continue to!!

Hello to everyone. We got tons of snow today here - its pretty but cold :cold: Nothing else to update still waiting for AF :eviltongu

Hi everyone,
Just thought I'd write and say "hi". I dropped myself from another support group today because someone got pregnant on clomid...after about 3 months. I think I'm having a hard time digesting that i am going to have to do IVF and I find myself very jealous of pregnant women. I used to be so "together" about the infertility thing but since my four perfect IUI cycles ended up in BPN...I am feeling down. Anyone else feel this way? I'm kinda beating myself up over it. Hopefully insurance will come through for a march cycle!!!!!!!!!! I think the worst thing is my %^$&* of a sister-in-law is pregnant and I have to hear about them setting up their crib etc.... I never realized I could be so jealous. thanks for listening!!!!!!! Kristin

Kristin, Don´t feel badly for feeling the way you do... we all go through hard/bad times and that is exactly why we have this great supportive group! We are here to listen to all of the success and failures we go through when we ride this rocky mountain! Besides our emotions already being more sensitive :blue: than "normal" women, we have to deal with those darned hormones:angry2:, so it is not unsual to have these mood changes.

There are times when I see someone pregnant and I feel tremendous tenderness, but there are also other times when I feel tremendously jealous and don´t feel like "dealing" with it. One thing that works well for me when I feel down, is knowing how fortunate I am to at least have the opportunity to do my treatments, when many out women can´t for different reasons... count your blessings and thank God for them!!!
Just know that you are not alone... we are all here to listen to whatever is you want to share and you´ll always find in us a kind word of advice! Hope you feel better :hug99: and keep up the faith!

Vyonne

:jump2: :woo: Today is my last day of BCP!!:yippee:


I am so happy!!! I can't stand these pills anymore. AF should be here by Fri then I call for an appt for a baseline u/s.

Kristin~ I am so sorry that you have to go throught this. I can totally relate to how you feel. Before we moved on to IVF we did 6 IUI cycles which were perfect too. I can't tell you how many times the RE told me we might have to cancel because I have too many mature follicles and I could get PG with multiples. Of course I said no way, I am willing to chance it and Boom, Nada not even one took. SO I know how you feel and it is ok, you just can't let it consume you. Be strong!

Judy~Thanks for the info. I have been sticking with my belly. I was kinda worried about doing it there because I though I might have too much padding there and the Lupron would not take because of it. But when I thought about that, it was silly and 2) I am sure they would have told me if that was the case.
Kerri~ How's the acupuncture going? Notice any changes yet? Have you checked out the CT section of IVFconnections.com yet? There is a bunch of us there too. Great group of ladies there too!

Thank you for the support. I am very thankful that I have a fantastic RE and i am SOOOOOOOO grateful that my husband works in Massachussets and our inurance covers 6 IVF's. I am feeling a little bit better today. yahoo for the last day of BCP. The waiting is always hard. Seems like we are always waiting for AF,follicles to grow...and then the dreaded 2ww...AHAHAHAH. I never realized how long 2 weeks could be. Thanks again...K

I think the 2ww is the worst part of IVF. Lucky for you to be in Massachusetts! I have asked DH to move there but he won't. Atleast CT now will pay for 2 cycles so we are very hopeful!
Glad you are feeling better!

Ang- that is great to be starting your cycle you must be so pysched (Spelling?).:ura1:

Vyonne - I glad everything is going on smoothly for you.:redflower

Welcome to Krissy and Bloom! :welcome:

My Uncle has finally been moved out of ICU. He originally went in for a perforated ulcer and then developed a serious infection and underwent a 2nd surgery to remove part of his stomach. He is doing okay and will probably be in the hospital for an additional 3 weeks before them move him to a rehab center.

As for myself - I do not know if I will be able to continue with IVF at all - my insurance coverage has run out for the procedure and I just got hit with over $9,000 bills and right now feel very :fado: about the amount of money that they charge for this. I have been looking into the NYS Infertility Demonstration Program and am awaiting to see if I am eligible for coverage through them - I know that there is at least one other person who is also from NYS - this is a program made by Gov. Pataki - it is for women who do have med ins. but it does not cover ivf - I sent all my info over last Friday and am waiting to hear if I qualify.

http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/infertility/infertility_demonstration_program.htm

So I am in limbo right now and also a little depressed - We have enough money saved for ivf - but these bills have just doomed my new car and I really need one we only have one care and it is a 1998. We have been saving for a house and are going to probably start to look when the weather turns. I know my DH will not want to blow half of our savings on something that is not a sure thing and I am not sure that I want to either. I really want to have a child of my own - but I also do not want to have to struggle financially.

I have alot to contemplate. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.

Dawn

Dawn, Thank you, I am glad things are going smoothly so far for me. Retrival for my Donor should be tentatively around February 1st or 2nd, and then we´ll see if I get a 3 or a 5 day transfer... so I am right around the corner:yippee:
I´m happy to hear that your uncle is more stable and that in a few weeks he´ll be moved to rehab. I wish him and your family all the best!

It is unfair that the cost of these treatments are so high :rolleyes:, and that many times it is what limits most women from doing them. I am so sorry to hear that for that reason you may have to desist from your next planned IVF... specially when you have your two lovely sisters willing to help you with the hardest part! I hope you´ll qualify for the NYS Infertility Demonstration Program, so that you may persue your dream. It sure is very hard when one gets hit with huge bills and you are forced to make serious choices under pressure. Take a deep breath and prioritize what is most important in your life at this moment :dunno:... but also keep in mind that "time" is a very important factor in IVF, while material things may get acquired later without as much of an impact. Whatever your decision may be, just make sure you are 100% sure it is what is best for you and your DH, so that you will not have regrets at a later day. I´ll be praying for your qualification in the NYS ID Program and for you to make the best decision... :hug99:

Vyonne

Angie~You're almost there! :banana: By the way, I used Whole Body Cleanse by Enzymatic Therapy. I bought it at GNC. They have different detox kits there as well as Whole Foods (is there one in Conn.?) Anyway, the one I've just completed is a 2 week cleanse and you're basically taking supplements that help clean your system (in other words, you go to the bathroom a lot). If you're going to do one, I would suggest not to do it while you're taking IF drugs. :dunno: My thoughts on this are not based on anything a Dr. said, but I just think that while doing the IF drugs, you should try to maintain good health, but not also try to do any sort of crash diets and detoxs. :dunno: IMHO.

Andrea~How wonderful of you to donate eggs. :hug99: Like others also said, I think that law is crazy. I can't even begin to imagine having to look for a donor on my own. We're not all as brave as Vyonne. :awink: The other good thing about agencies is that they make sure their donors are well screened and typically screen out donors who may carry certain hereditary illnesses. And donors should be compensated. . .absolutely!

Krissy~It's O.K. to have those feelings and as far as I'm concerned, they're pretty much on par with what all of us women feel who are going through this. I have my good days and my bad, but at this point in my 5 1/2 year quest to have a child, I have to realize that when I have a bad day, it's O.K. and I'm not a bad person to have those feelings. There are lots of great books out there to help with coping skills when you're going through infertility. I'd be happy to send you some book names if you'd like. Let me know. I wish you all the best. :bighug:

Dawn~I'm glad to hear that your uncle is doing better, but that really stinks about the IVF coverage! :blue: I think Vyonne's response was great and I have to agree that it might be good to just take some time to figure out what's most important and how and if you can make it work. I do hope you're eligible for the NYS Infertility Demonstration Program. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. :crossfing

Vyonne~:wow: That was fast! As you know, I'm wishing you the very best this time around. :pray: :crossfing

So I have more information. :thumbsup: And I'm feeling so much better in that it seems like it's finally coming together. I'll be starting BCP with my next AF, which will be sometime next week. My donor is also all set to go and in the end, we'll probably be doing retrieval and transfer somewhere in the last 2 weeks of March. I have to be on BCP for at least 21 days before starting the Lupron followed soon by the estrogen, but at least now I have a timeline. :yippee:

Kimberly

So I have more information. :thumbsup: And I'm feeling so much better in that it seems like it's finally coming together. I'll be starting BCP with my next AF, which will be sometime next week. My donor is also all set to go and in the end, we'll probably be doing retrieval and transfer somewhere in the last 2 weeks of March. I have to be on BCP for at least 21 days before starting the Lupron followed soon by the estrogen, but at least now I have a timeline. :yippee:
Kimberly

Oh Kim, I am thrilled :woo: to hear that you are all set for BCP and in no time it will be time for Lupron... after that, your dates for retrieval and transfer will be there in a blink :hi5:... that is simply awesome!!! My thoughts and prayers are with you sweetie :hug99:!

Thank you for your good wishes and prayers... I need all the positive energy and prayers from the whole wide world right now!!! This evening I go to my RE (Donor too), to get an u/s to see my linning growth so far after being 2 weeks on estrogen , and of course, to also check my Donor´s follies. It should give us a better idea for the retrieval date :crossfing!!!

Vyonne

WOW, Kim!! This is terrific news - you are FINALLY getting somewhere!! I am so VERY excited for you and really hope that this time around you will get your BFP!! :nod:

Oh Vyonne, I am also wishing for the best for you, too!! :akiss:

I know there's been alot of news here and I haven't been good about keeping up. GOOD LUCK to everyone who is cycling or about to start. I really hope there are MANY BFPs here!!!!!
Tomorrow is our BIG DAY. My c section is scheduled for 9am. We're heading over to the hospital at 2pm today to meet with the anesthesiologist and get pre-op blood work. They'll also let me know when I have to show up tomorrow morning.

Amanda

Amanda, Yeah!!! Baby Jessica will be here soon! Can't wait to hear all about her!!

Tomorrow Amanda!!! :ura1: So excited for you!

Kim and Vyonne very happy that everything is coming together for both of you!!

Dawn I am so sorry about the coverage and the bills :hug99: I hope that the program proves to be something you are eligible for. Glad to hear that your Uncle is doing better.

Welcome Krissy!

Got my b/w back today and everything is normal :thumbsup:Thursday I go for my hysteroscopy - hoping that that also checks out normal and isn't too painful. If all is ok we have the go ahead for a March FET but though we are 90% sure we are emotionally ready, we are reserving that 10% for some wiggle room. I'm anxious to get going though since we will be doing 1 embie at a time and it may take a few rounds.

Hope the weekend has treated you all well.

Kim- I am so happy for you! :jump:

Amanda- Good luck tomorrow!

Hey how many of here are on herbs and what are you taking?

You all should see my list! I have to take EIGHT capsules three times a day! :eek:

PS: I said this in your journal but congrats again on getting the green light to go! :jump:

Judy~Glad all is normal! I am happy that you are ready to try again.
Kim~That is great news. I am happy that you finally have some sort of a time frame.
Kerri~Wow! 8 capsules! What do you take? Did I tell you, I decided to give the glucophage another go? I am handling it much better this time around. So I am hoping it will help with the egg quality issue and m/c rate.


Af is here. I will call my RE tomorrow for an appt hopefully for Tue. Most likely will start the menopur that same night too. I don't know if it's just me but I have been in a super ugly funk. I feel depressed, anxious, low tolerance, everything is getting to me. I think it's because of the BCP's but I am off them now for a few days and now I am doing the lupron. Has anyone felt this way at the start of a cycle? I hate feeling like this. I am sure most of it is the anxiousness and nervousness of this upcoming cycle. I know I need to snap out of it. Poor DH! Thank God he is understanding of what is going on. One minute I am happy, laughing and the next I am depressed and sad and just wanting to sleep. I just dont know... I really think I am just super scared of this not happenning for us.

I take 12 herbs (I guess I am really messed up :lol: )

pinellia rhizome
citrus peel
jujube, chinese date
poria
licorice root
trichosanthese fruit
fresh giner rhizome
polygala, chinese senega root
zhejiang fritallaria
immature bitter orange fruit
bamboo shavings (inner section)
When I first got them I was supposed to put them in water and drink them but they were so bad tasting that I couldn't keep them down. I sent them back and she put them in capsules and sent them back to me. I only started today so too early to tell if they are doing me any good.

Ang- I wish I could help you with the way you are feeling. I think when I started back on the pill early last year I was very depressed at the beginning. I didn't have any mood swings but you are taking a lot of stuff right now so who knows.

Kerri I am taking Astragalus which I brew into a tea (:noqueno: this is not done over my black cauldron though it sounded a little witchy :heee: ) and a blend called calm the chien or something simmilar which has about 15 herbs in it. I will stop the herbs though when I get ready to cycle just don't want to mess with what the RE is doing and they are ok with the accu but prefer that I don't take herbs during an active cycle. Mostly these are to build up my Chi or Qi in preparation. She also gave me a moxa stick to heat certain points at home and to warm over my belly. I've also heard that it is helpful to soak your feet in warm water. Apparently if your extremeties are often cold and mine are :cold: it takes energy away from your core/uterus and keeping you toes warm helps with that. I mentioned it to my accu and she had not heard of that as treatment but agreed with it from a TCM perspective and hey it can't hurt at the very least it is relaxing!

Angela - I think what you are describing is very normal plus the hormones never help. Its so difficult to find the right balance of thinking positive and not setting yourself up for disapointment. For my second cycle I was more skeptical since first time round it didn't happen and I think I was more just negative about the whole thing. I was convinced I wasn't pregnant and low and behold it worked! Well the IVF did at least. I think too that lupron tends to mess with you a bit more and once you add the stims it gets a little better. Glad DH is understanding and you of course have us to vent to! Hope you get the go ahead to start on Tuesday!

Kerri,

The only thing I have heard of from that list is the licorice root. I read that it is very good for PCOS because it lowers the testosterone. Very interesting! I hope the herbs and the acu help. Who knows maybe you will be PG before May.

Judy~I hope I will feel better as time goes on. I think what you described is exactly what I am going through right now. I am trying to stay positive and I am trying to visualize me being PG and me having a baby. I know a lot of women who didn't get PG the 1st try and then the second it worked. So you would think that would make me feel better. I know I just need to take it day by day.

Question: If anybody can answer...

I am only doing the menopur to stim. Has anybody done just that? I have been doing some research and all the ones I have seen have used Gonal F or follistim with it. I am just a little puzzled why I am only doing the menopur. I will have to ask my RE.

I was wondering that as well about your protocol Angela. I am doing follistim (I believe) and adding some repronex to the mix.

Kerri~ Hmmm, I am stumped. Maybe it's because they don't want to hyperstim me because I don't need much help getting a lot of eggs, maybe they are going for less but of better quality. It's funny how the DR's so it different.

We should definitely meet up at West farms! Dinner? or lunch?

Angela, Menopur is an LH/FSH combination. It is used in order to encourage both number AND growth of follicles. Hope that helps!

Angela - I used menopur this last cycle. It wasn't an IVF cycle (we did IUI). As Suzi said it's an LH/FSH combo drug and is pretty new to the U.S. I had only used Gonal F before that (which is just FSH). The menopur is "purer" than the other combo drugs so it has fewer injection site reactions.

Amanda

Amanda~:yippee: :bighug: All the best to you!

I take an herbal mixture that my accupuncturist mixes up for me in her office. I've been seeing her for about 2 years and trust her with that. (I'm not sure what each ingredient is). Like Judy, we're trying to build up my Chi. I also have cold extremities and the herbs help to move the blood and build my uterine lining. Additionally, I take baby aspirin, CoQ10, and Flax seed oil, vitamin C, B12, Prenatals, and Zinc. I will definitely modify some of this when I start taking stims.

I will stop the herbs though when I get ready to cycle just don't want to mess with what the RE is doing and they are ok with the accu but prefer that I don't take herbs during an active cycle. Mostly these are to build up my Chi or Qi in preparation. She also gave me a moxa stick to heat certain points at home and to warm over my belly. I've also heard that it is helpful to soak your feet in warm water. Apparently if your extremeties are often cold and mine are it takes energy away from your core/uterus and keeping you toes warm helps with that. I mentioned it to my accu and she had not heard of that as treatment but agreed with it from a TCM perspective and hey it can't hurt at the very least it is relaxing!


Judy~Exactely the same with me. I will also stop the herbs when I start the stims although I will continue accu. I also use the moxa stick and soak my feet in warm water. :thumbsup:

Kimberly

I got the call from Amanda's mom at 11:37am.

Jessica is here:ura1:! She is 6 lbs 7 oz. So tiny! She has brown hair and a big set of lungs according to Amanda's mom. She also stated that Jessica looks identical to Nathaniel. Mom and baby are doing well.

:jump: Congrats Amanda, Tom, Nathaniel & Buffy! Welcome Jessica! :jump:

Amanda, My thoughts and prayers are with you for the smooth arrival of baby Jessica :suck: !!! Can´t wait to hear all about it :bighug:!

Judy, Its great that everything is normal! Take your time, and start when you feel you are 100% ready to do so... I am sure that your :hb: will be your best "thermometer" to indicate it. Thank you for sharing my happiness too (I am now only a few days from retrieval and transfer)!!! :hug99:

Ang, What you are feeling is soooooo normal! All those hormones (like Judy says) play a number on you :rolleyes: . It is good that DH is understanding of all the mood swings! I wish you the best on starting tomorrow with the other meds... :hug99:

Well, Fridays appointment at my RE went really well on my Donor´s side, as she has 16 countablefollies (all pretty close in size) + a few additional little ones :yippee: and great linning :nod: ... as far as I go, my doc wasn´t too happy with my linning because it showed some sort of shadow that did not give a clear u/s picture :tearhair:. However, he mentioned my linning size seems fine so far (I was at 8 mm), but he rather see me this evening again to determine what could be going on :disbelief . He did not seem too concerned, but of course my weekend was terrible just thinking :scratch: about it! I just hope and :pray: that today, whatever it was that caused my linning on the u/s not to be too clear on Friday... is perfect now!

Vyonne

Oops!!!

Suzy, Thank you for your good wishes too, sweetie :hug1:!
PS Just a couple of days that I didn´t log and so many news!!!

Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to say "hi" and thank you for your support. Goo, that is really wonderful of you. I could use those. I am feeling a bit better. I can feel AF coming so hopefully i will go on BCP so I can start my first IVF in march. I feel out of the loop at the doctors office because I skipped last cycle for a sonohystagram. Seems like it's out of sight out of mind. Haven't heard if insurance has come through but I'm sure it will by the time I finsh a round of pills!!!! Thanks for all the support. Kristin

Congrats Amanda!!! Welcome to baby Jessica.

I just heard that all I have to come up with is $4500 to do IVF through the program. Very excited - that is a number I can deal with not $20,000.

Unfortunately my uncle has once again taken another turn. He had his original surgery for a perforated ulcer and then for an infection - and last night they told us he has a mass in one of his lungs - which they believe is an infection and are treating with antibotics but they say his blood count is low and they believe he is bleeding internally from the ulcer - so now they are checking that out and in the mean time he has been getting transfusions. I am extremely worried - he still has not recovered from his 1st surgery and I do not know how much more his poor body can take. He is the only family member I have left on my mother's side - he is her brother and has been like a father to all 6 of us since our parents passed away in the early 90's. We are all praying for his recovery and hoping for the best - I am leaving in 10 mins to go sit with him for a few hours. I have a copy of the book Wicked and I have been reading it to him.

Vyonne - so excited for you tomorrow is you big day - I pray for many embies for you - and a great transfer!

Happy to see everyone is moving along - will check in when I can.

All my best.

Dawn

Dawn, I am so very sorry to hear about your uncle :sadhug:... I understand how you feel and I offer you my thoughts and :pray:s for a speedy recovery! Its good that you are spending time with him to give him strength and not let him give up... talk to him, let him know how much you all love him and how important he is to you all!

On the other hand I am very happy about your IVF coverage :thumbsup: ... that sure is great news!!! Pretty soon you´ll be on the wagon too!!!

I am so excited, as it all went real well last evening at my RE office, my linning is fine and he gave me the go ahead :nod:. However, he ended up pushing retrieval by 1 day, so it is now scheduled for this Thursday at 9:00 am. My Donor had yesterday 18 follies and all seem to be growing wonderfully :ura1:, so we may go for blasto... placing me for Transfer day on Tuesday, February 7th! :yippee:. Thank you so much for your prayers and good wishes, Dawnie :hug99:!!!

Vyonne

Krissy~Here is a link to one of my favorite "dealing with infertility" books. I really felt so much better after reading it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0670031550/qid=1087842852/sr=ka-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-3307347-4823957?n=283155

Dawnie~I'm so very sorry about your uncle. :sadhug: I will keep him in my thoughts. :pray:

Vyonne~:yippee: You're almost there. :banana: Things are sounding really good :ura1: As always, sending you many, many good wishes.

AF arrived today. I'm officially on my first day of BCP in preparation for my DE cycle. :crossfing

Kimberly

Thanks you for your well wishes for my uncle. His condition has not changed yet. Waiting on test results.

I am so :furious: I could scream. I was tentatively approved for IVF throught the NYSUD Program and then I get a call from the sponors stating that my ins. says that I haven't even used half of the alloted max benefit amount. So I go online the BCBS and check. The claims from Oct. (my 2nd cycle) state that "you have reached the maximum" . So I call bcbs and they also state that I have not used all benefits and I tell the rep about the claims and what they say and he is quite confused and now they have to investigate. I am so :fado: !!! I just paid out approximately $9000 for that last cycle so I do not get it. Some one screwed up somewhere and I am freaking out.


Dawn

I'm Back! The last week has been crazy! This house is way more trouble than it's worth! If one more thing goes wrong with the $ pit I'm gonna put up a 4sale sign!

Amanda-Congrats on :princess:Baby Jessica!

Angela-I read that lupron and all the other drugs can cause moodswings and tiredness. Hopefully it wont be to bad for you, Baby dust Sweets, Baby dust and prayers!:crossfing

Vyonne-Crickey I'd didn't think it was that quick! Baby Dust Doll, Baby Dust and prayers your way!:crossfing

Kristin-:welcome: Praying you get a BFP this spring as well!

Dawn-I'm so sorry your uncle isn't doing so well, take care of yourself during this hard time for your family. My prayers are with you.:hug99:

Kim- Congrats on the BCP start! Praying for another BFP for the spring!:crossfing

Judy-I'm so glad to hear your going to give it another go in March. Praying for your successful FET as well.:hug99:

Well I recieved my protocols:ura1:! I start BCPs around the tenth on day 1 of AFs visit, then Suprefact on the 27th. Then we get to add puregon and repronex to the mix. They moved our possible ER to the 25th and transfer to the 28th! 3 days faster which means 3 days less shots! and I dont have to take POI as I'll be on patch and supposit. I've got to go today for my baseline bloodwork, I'm just waiting for the clinic to call so I can get a northern blood order. Joy of joys! At least I dont have as many bloodtests as I thought before I got my protocols! Booked DH's travel while I waited and got a super deal on seat sales! He's gonna miss the first real appoint. with VFC but he'll be there for everything after. My mom will have to go with me, before I drop her off at the airport. Man time seems to be flying by, thank god! I'm starting to get nervous!

Wow...seems all of a sudden there's LOTS going on here! I am so excited for everyone - my fingers are crossed!

My target for starting BCP for our cycle is fast approaching. I call my center with AF start between Feb 25 and March 25. I have been a little freaked these last few days because AF was 6 days late...I have never been late a day in my life. I'm still kinda freaked over it - wondering if this was an anomaly or if it's a beginning of something more significant. :rolleyes:

Dawnie~I truly hope that this mess will be fixed up soon. :tearhair:

Andrea~Wow, it's coming up so fast. What good news. Finally, huh?
:yippee:

AF was 6 days late...I have never been late a day in my life. I'm still kinda freaked over it - wondering if this was an anomaly or if it's a beginning of something more significant.

Suzi~Funny you should mention that because I was very concerned about that myself and through some internet research, I found out that for women with regular periods, their cycle length actually shortens as they. . . .um. . . .gracefully move into their years of wisdom. :heee: But seriously, do you think that's correct? :scratch: I'm not even going to ask my mother because we were all teenagers when she was starting into those years and I'm positive she wasn't paying attention to her periods.

As I was told, I called the nurse this AM and told her that I started AF. She then called me back and actually told me that I'm going to start on Lupron as early as Feb. 14 and my transfer may come as early as the middle of March instead of the end. We'll see.

Talked to my best friend Polly tonight. She told me she was pregnant again. I didn't take it half as hard this time. . .mostly likely because I think she did have to "pay her dues" with the M/C. And this is absolutely not to say that any woman deserves to have a pregnancy fail, it's just that it was clear in her conversation that she would never take this blessing for granted. And I was very happy for her. . .a tiny bit sad for myself, but hopeful at the same time that I'll be right behind her and we can go through this together. I hope that I'm not hoping for too much. :crossfing

Kimberly

Suzi, with all of the drugs and stress of IVF anything that goes on with my body drives me nuts. I was 5 days early was suppose to get AF on Feb. 1st got it on Jan 26th? Go figure and as you age your cycle changes - I know mine has - don't freak out to much I am sure that it is perfectly normal for your cycle to be a little off.

Thank you all for your well wishes for my Uncle and I wish I had good news on that front - but I do not. He has been moved back to ICU - they have found the beginning stages of lung cancer which they believe is totally operable and curable - but because of where the mass is located it is inhibiting his breathing and they do not want to perform the surgery until they feel he can survive it.
Your prays are most apreciated - I do believe in the power of pray.

I am happy to every one is moving along nicely.

Vyonne and word on your embies?

Dawn

Ang - you started your Lupron any news on a retrieval date?

Kim - you are starting this month or next?

Krissy how are you progress - did you meet with the drs yet?

As I was told, I called the nurse this AM and told her that I started AF. She then called me back and actually told me that I'm going to start on Lupron as early as Feb. 14 and my transfer may come as early as the middle of March instead of the end. We'll see.
Kimberly

:ura1: Not long now Hon!!!
Happy to hear that your friends BFP hasn't put a tailspin on your emotions. I know that the closer we get to cycling the easier it gets to be around pregnant women, babies and all the stuff that goes with it.

Suzi-I think the stress and anticipation causes changes in our cycles. I'm a 28 day cycler and have had the same cycle for 8 years then dec. my cycle changed by 1 week. Plus if you are spending alot of time with another woman your schedules will start to synch up causing a cycle change. I wouldn't worry to much about it unless you feel like somethings not right.

And hey another spring cycler!!!!:ura1: Glad to hear the process is sped up for you!

Dawn-Your family has my prayers right now. Hope your Uncle starts improving so they can op. successful!

Went for my blood test today (waited all damn day yesterday for the clinic to get back to me just for a signature so I could have the bloodwork:furious: !), can I just say that men are much better at taking blood and being discrete, the woman today very loudly pretty much explained to everybody in the waiting room how it great it was that we are doing IVF. As she jambed a large needle in my arm! I also got to hear the personal story of someone I know, who just had IVF with his wife, I'm sure if he wanted us to know he would have told us himself instead of letting a stranger do it. What a nosy parker! Then I went to a baby clothing store to look at the outfits and grab something for the neighbors new granddaughter who we are going to visit tonight. OMG there is the cutest stuff available now, and I didn't burst into tears looking at it!

the woman today very loudly pretty much explained to everybody in the waiting room how it great it was that we are doing IVF. As she jambed a large needle in my arm! I also got to hear the personal story of someone I know, who just had IVF with his wife, I'm sure if he wanted us to know he would have told us himself instead of letting a stranger do it. What a nosy parker!

That sounds pretty darn unprofessional. :eek:

Thanks Andrea - we can use all the prayers we can get. His condition has not changed yet.

I get kinda of confused with all the screen names and who everyone actually are. I know some of them but not all.

Goo thanks I hope everything get cleared up soon - I am eager to start and hope with all 3 of us giving eggs I will have some to spare for future.

Babydust to all.

Dawn

Wow, it always happens... a couple of days away and tons of news!!!

Well, everything is moving along great :aok:... we are going to blasto and my Transfer will take place around 9:30 am on Tuesday the 7th :ura1:, so I am quite excited with the quality eggs we achieved. From the 10 they fertilized, we have up to 5 today :clap: and these are multiplying wonderfully!!! I am very pleased, because I will get 2 or 3 transferred and will freeze the others.

Thank you for all your good wishes and prayers, Judy, Andrea, Kim & Dawn!!! Please keep up the prayers so that I have a good transfer and soon I get my most desired BFP :pray:

Dawn, I sure hope your uncle is doing much better by now! My prayers and thoughts are with you dear :hug99:!

Kim, Congrats sweetie... you are definitely on the wagon now :ura1: . Best of luck!!!

Andrea, So happy for you... :ura1: wish you all the luck too!

Judy, very happy with your results! Take your time and when you are ready, know that God will be watching over you... trust in Him and open your heart again:hug99:!

I am so excited... only 48 more hours and I will have my embies in me:woo: however, I must confess I am a bit nervous, but extremely happy for the new opportunity God has granted me...

One quick question to you all: Has anyone ever after transfer of their embies gone out the next day, normally??? My RE always recommends 3 days of rest, but I´ve heard that in Europe right after the procedure you go back to work :owow: after a 3 hour rest or so!!! I happen to have charity event on Wednesday (day after transfer) and I would be mostly seated, but dunno what to do :dunno: ... please advise!

Vyonne

Good luck on Tuesday Vyonne! :)

Thank you so much, Beverly!!! I sure need all the good wishes, prayers and baby dust I can get :crossfing for Tuesday!!!

Vyonne :bighug:

Vyonne :crossfing for you Tuesday Yes I am hoping you get your much deserved BFP! You know my clinic recommends you take it easy - no bedrest required but I have to be honest I figured what would it hurt? On our first cycle I was much more casual about it and on our second I was more strict with myself. I still don't know if it made a difference or and I have heard of many women resuming daily activities the day after. I guess though if it were me, I would probably lay low and pamper myself. Whatever you decide to do though I hope your embies stick!!!!

Judy, Thank you sweetie! At this point I have everything :crossfing crossed :lol:!

Like you in my many previous attempts, I have done everything... from laying low, to driving or not driving for the first 3 to 5 days, to also being less careful, but so far neither way made a positive difference for me. Although on my very first IVF I exagerated quite a bit, as I stayed bed ridden for 1 week :disbelief... and still nothing. I guess I will see how I feel and decide later on. The charity event its a biggy and I am the vice president, so felt inclined to attending. It goes from 10:00 am to 8:00 pm and if I go, I´d have to commit myself to the whole time, but I´d be sitting throughout it. I also know they really count on my help, which makes my decision much harder.... of course my embies are my most important priority and would not jeopardize them after all I have been through!!! Thanks for your advice... it helps :hug1:
Vyonne

Update:

Today is Day 6 of stims. My b/w from friday was 115. Today I went for B/W and U/S and I have many many follicles. 15 on the rt and 12 on the lt all under 10. So then I get a call that my E2 dropped from 115 to 102. Now why is that and especially with all these follicles?? Any ideas, anyone, Suzi?? So they upped my meds from 150 to 225. I go back Tue for another U/S and B/W. I am not too worried yet but this does have me concerned or am I worrying for nothing.

Vyonne~ Yeah!! Won't be too much longer now till those embies come home to mama! My thoughts will definitely be with you on Tuesday.

Dawn~ Still praying for your uncle and your family at this time. They said my estimated ER would be the 11th and ET of the 14th, but I think the rate I am going I think it will be later than that.

Andrea~ That is so unprofessional of that women. Me? I would have said something or gone to a supervisor and discreetly addressed it with them. This is stessful enough, no need to have people like that make it worse. Plus she could get in serious trouble, maybe get fired, for disclosing that info about that couple you know doing IVF. Can you tell, I hate nosy, gossipy people???

Kimberly~ Glad things are progressing for you. Hopefully you and your friend will be PG together. One of my closest friends is PG, 12 weeks, and I am hoping I can join her. We have always talked about how "cool" that would be to go through this together.

Vyonne -- Good luck on Tuesday, I'm so glad to hear that things are going well. Sending lots of baby dust your way! My opinion for you & your charity event is to do what you feel best about. I have also done it both ways, stayed down obsessively & just gone on living my life, though I have always done 3 days of bedrest. A lot of clinics don't do the bedrest anymore, though all 3 of the RE's that I have used still do it. I would have felt bad if I had missed the chance to do something that was really important to me & then got a BFN anyway. Does anyone know if there's any research on the affect of activity & IVF outcome?

Angela -- That does sound strange, but this process does come with a lot of surprises. I wouldn't worry too much yet.

Amanda -- Congratulations!

Kim -- I am so glad to hear that things are moving along for you.

Dawn -- That is so frustrating with your insurance. We have had so many problems with incorrect billing with our IF coverage that it is amazing to me that anything is ever done right! I have one bill that I've been fighting for about 5 months because the lab just can't seem to bill it correctly, no matter how many people I call. My insurance finally said that they would pay it anyway, & the lab just sent me a bill for the amount over what the insurance paid. It makes me furious & I wish I could bill them for every hour on the phone that I have spent trying to make up for their incompetance. (I just got the bill on Saturday, so I am still fuming.)

There is so much going on the board right now. I am sorry if I've missed anyone. I've just been following everyone lately. We are kind of in a holding pattern right now. I've decided that I am going to switch to a new RE. Unfortunately, there isn't much else that I can change with the meds that I am taking for IVF or anything else. I do like my current RE & love his office staff, but I don't feel that he is as detail oriented as my new RE. I met with the new RE a couple of weeks ago to get a second opinion & really liked him. He spent almost 45 minutes with me reviewing my case & gave me very good research based opinions on different treatment options. Anyway, he wants to do some bloodwork & a hysteroscopy (?) before we start up, so timing will all depend on AF, which has been rather unpredictable since my last failed cycle. Anyway, I will probably do IVF again in March or April. I have been grateful for the break from all the MD appointments -- it feels like I'm on vacation or something!

Vyonne, my center recommends "light activity" following transfer and return to normal activity the next day. I've heard of centers recommending bedrest for a week following but their results are no better than my center's results so I can't see the logic for bedrest... :dunno:

Angela, the drop in E2 is nothing to worry about - quite common (especially in women with PCOS). You can absolutely stop worrying! I agree with the REs move to up the meds to 225...things are rolling right along!

I love to come here and see all the good things happening - lots of :crossfing to all!! :yippee:

Carla, Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one with ins. issues. You are so right if we billed the insurance companies or the doctors offices for the amount of time we spend correcting their errors we problem could get quite a number of free procedures.

Vyonne That is so wonderful! STICKY STICK EMBIES!!! I will be keeping you in my thoughts tomorrow.
My RE suggest one day of complete bed rest and one day of lounging.

Ang - That is like this WEEKEND!! I will keep you in my prayers.

Thanks to everyone for your well wishes for my uncle - but I am in such a pink mood today that I do not want to talk about it - just to say that there has not been any change in his status.

Dawn

Thanks Suzi. I called my RE's office just to clarify and the nurse said that sometimes the Lupron will suppress too well. It's nothing to Worry about and DR B wasn't too concened. He said let me up my dose tonite again and see what tomorrow B/W and U/s BRING.

Carla~ Good luck. Sounds like you have a lot going on too!!

Thanks Dawn!

Found out more good news requiring the mandate for IF benefits. We are not limited to 2 embroyos and we each will get 2 paid cycles. So Ryan get's 2 and I will get 2. For a total of 4. I do have to clarify if that still applies if we have the same insurance policy.

I've been having my own little pitty party, and not much been in the posting mood. (nothing to report anyway - no donor )

I wanted to pop on and say Vyonne - I am so excited for you. Sending lots of sticky vibes your way. :bighug:

Hello and THANK YOU SO MUCH to you all (Ang, Carla, Suzi, Dawn & Dana)... your advise on the do´s & don´ts on the Transfer Day and the days to follow, have really helped. And I see your point, Suzi, about the logic for bed rest. Also, I am most touched with all your support and feel great being only a few hours away from ET. Specially, because my RE called to let me know the 5 embies were still moving right along into blasto perfectly :clap:! I think I will go for 3 to transfer and 2 to freeze... but, we´ll see!

Ang, your progress sounds just great! Keep it up girl :ura1:
Carla, so happy to hear you´ve found someone (RE) you feel comfortable with... March, April is right around the corner!!! Good luck sweetie!

Dawn, My :pray:s continue... may soon there be a change in his status!

Dana, I am sorry to hear you are in a pitty mood...:sadhug:. Have faith and very soon the "right donor" will come your way!

Once again, thanks to all of you in our wonderful thread... you´ve given me strength and have been great to have around throughout this journey. With all your prayers, good wishes, crossed fingers, baby dust, and God by my side, I open my :hb: to His will and trust in Him.

Love you all :grouphugg,

Vyonne

Lots of exciting things happening here. I'll get caught up eventually...
Fingers crossed and lots of prayers for you Vyonne!

Amanda

Well my e2 is now 283, so it has almost tripled. SO I am happy that something is going on. I requested DR B today so he did the u/s for me. He must think I am a nut because of all my worries and questions. Sometimes I think he just wants to bust out laughing at me because I sound like a paranoid freak. This is a big deal to me, so who cares what he thinks right. So he says I am stimming slowly which is what he wanted because last time i stimmed very fast and had bad eggs so this time he wants me to stim slower, get less eggs but better quality. I go back thursday for another U/S and B/W.

Great news Angela!! :aok:

I'm so glad things are going well Angela!

Amanda

Angela, I am very happy that things are progressing nicely for you.

Thanks Suzi, Amanda, and Dawn.

I will let you know how tomorrow goes. I am feeling these ovaries now....

U/S went well today. I have a lot of follicles but about 10 or so at the same rate. My e2 went from 283 to 745! They say I really took off! I go back Sat and will probably trigger Sunday or Monday. I am really starting to feel it and I am getting lower back pains because my ovaries are just so big from all the follicles that they are hitting nerves back there. I just hope i can get through work tomorrow

:pray:

I received a notice from the American Fertility Association regarding a segment of 60 Minutes that will air this weekend - sounds VERY interesting!



MEDIA ALERT



Watch CBS “60 Minutes” this Sunday, February 12 at 7 PM (ET/PT)

Dear Friend,

I want to share some exciting news with you. This Sunday, February 12, my husband Kai and I will appear on 60 Minutes (7PM ET/PT on CBS) in a segment called “A Surplus of Embryos.” Interviewed by Lesley Stahl, we discuss our experience as fertility patients with frozen embryos, and Dr. Richard Scott, The American Fertility Association’s Scientific Director, offers his medical perspective on embryo disposition.

Today there are 400,000 frozen embryos stored around the country, and they are at the center of a controversy. They contain special stem cells that hold the promise of curing a range of diseases and ultimately saving lives. But should scientists be allowed to destroy frozen embryos by extracting the stem cells? There are many points of view – from religious to government to personal choice – and this 60 Minutes segment (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/08/60minutes/main13502.shtml) will deal with all of them.

When Kai and I began our fertility journey years ago, we sought help from fertility experts and used in vitro fertilization to conceive our two wonderful sons, Tyler and Spencer. However, as a result of treatment, we had more embryos created than we needed, and the surplus was frozen and placed in storage. It took my husband and me years to figure out what to do with our remaining embryos after we were fortunate enough to have our children.

As founder and executive director of The American Fertility Association, I hear from thousands of people how grueling it is to reach a decision about when and how to relinquish their frozen embryos. Last December, I wrote an opinion piece for the Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/12/04/dont_tell_me_what_to_do_with_my_embryos/), which describes my husband’s and my emotional decision to donate our surplus to scientific research. It is our life-affirming hope that our donation can help someone else in need of a cure. It was a difficult choice to make, certainly, but we’re glad we had that option. It’s a personal and private decision, and fertility patients deserve to choose the embryo disposition option that gives them the most comfort.

I hope you will tune in this Sunday evening to watch CBS 60 Minutes. I look forward to hearing from you after the show. Please e-mail your comments to info@theAFA.org (info@theAFA.org). The American Fertility Association advocates on behalf of all patients, and we look forward to hearing your insights and perspective.


If you watch, please do send your comments on to the email address provided!

I'm going to set my TiVo right now!

Dana, how are you?? I've been thinking of you! :bighug:

Suzi, I will definately try to catch it I will DVR it when I get home tonite.

Angela, I am :crossfing for you. Many eggs and many embies.



Dawn

Hi ladies. I've been busy, but it's all good. :awink:

Carla~I wholeheartedly believe that breaks are so good for us gals. It is often our instinct keep moving forward at breakneck speed, feeling like time could be running out. While that may be true in some of our cases, taking a break is also a good opportunity to remember how many wonderful things that we have in our lives, prepare for the next cycle, and just simply enjoy life like all the other "normal" people do.

Angela~Excellent news on your insurance coverage. :clap: That must help to ease some pressure. You said it girl! Who cares what your Dr. thinks. :dunno: You have to be your own advocate. This is your body, your time, your money, your future, and your hopes, girl, it's all about you. . .and well, of course the hubby. :heee: I continue to wish you all the best.

Dana~:hug99: If it's any consolation, I know to well about the wait for a donor. :rolleyes:

Vyonne~Oh my gosh! Things are rolling right along for you! I wish you all the best and believe you me, I've got my fingers crossed :crossfing and all my best :pray: and wishes coming your way!

Suzi~Thanks for the tip on the 60 min. story. We're going to get a bit of a snowstorm here. . .perfect opportunity to sit back and watch something of interest.

Things are moving along here for me. :thumbsup: I received my drugs yesterday. . .my lupron, estrogen, and Progestrone. They had ordered Crinone for me and I had told my Dr. that I wanted to try to Progestrone in oil for this cycle. I know, "ouch", as I've heard from many of you. So, I called the nurse who added the Progestrone in oil to my order anyway. I'm going to go ahead and give it a whirl. . .at least for the 11 days after transfer. If I do get pregnant :pray:, then I would probably switch to the Crinone.

I'm going to be going to Myrtle Beach for a few days next week so I'm going to have to take my lupron with me. Do any of you know the drill when flying with fertility drugs? I'm assuming the needles have to check in with my baggage and I should carry on the lupron (so it doesn't run the risk of being part of a lost baggage scenerio). Any thoughts?

Kimberly

Kim- I would just put them in with my luggage that gets checked and not with the carry ons but then I might be scared that it will get lost so...

Angela-:ura1: :ura1: Hugely excited about your upcoming retreival and sticky sticky embie prayers!

Kim-:ura1: Things are coming along. I picked up my drugs too it makes everything seem more real now! as to traveling with your drugs, I'm not sure about the laws now but 8 years ago only you could carry your drugs on board (DH cant carry them for you) and as long as your ID name matches the prescribed name on the bottle you will be fine. The needles will only be confiscated if you try to carry them on. I dont think I would put the injectables in my checked baggage as if the bag goes MIA you might be USC with no paddle for your cycle. Plus I'm paranoid enough to think what if the baggage handlers think its medical grade heroine and steal your bag? Call me crazy but I saw a show once....

Vyonne-Hows the 2ww going? :ura1: Sticky Stick Embie prayers your way babe!!!!:ura1:
Suzi-I'm gonna try to get my housesitter to PVR the program for me if I cant get it up here. Sounds very interesting!

Well I was supposed to start BCP's on Wednesday but AF is being a complete cow and just when I think she's starting her visit she calls to cancel! THis is driving me nuts, if I dont get AF as scheduled now can it cause a delay in my cycle? I have till the 13th to start BCP's according to my calendar but what if something is screwing up from the nerves? I know the possibility of being PG is nill, so I know this is probally nerves but what if AF decides to no show or show up late where will that leave me in my cycle? Does anyone have any experience with this? Arrgg!

Baby Dust and Sticky Embies

Andrea, if your center does cohort cycles (everyone does an IVF cycle at the same time anf the center does 4-5 cycles each year), AF showing late can mess up your schedule. For me, AF has to show between Feb24 and Mar24 and I call at that time and then start BCP. Hang in there, you are not very late yet... BTW, SO exciting you are getting close!

Kim, I'd put the syringes in the suitcase and check them and carry the lupron on. You never know the temps in the baggage compartment and that could affect the drug. Oh yeah...and IMO you made a smart move switchng to PIO! Even though the shots a PITA (literally - HA!), it's just a shot and it's over. Make sure you warm the PIO in your hands (or bra) and that will help it go in easier. Also, hold an ice pack on the injection site for a minute before injecting - it'll numb the area so you don't feel the needle. And last, massage the injection area for a few minutes and then sit on a heating pad - that'll help distribute the PIO out of the pocket it was injected into.

I am getting SO EXCITED for everyone!!

Vyonne... :pray: for you!!!

Yeah AF showed up this afternoon! Everythings OK! She just got set back a couple of days! I told myself maybe I'm pregnant this morning, and as soon as I do that she makes her appearrance! She's so considerate!

Well gotta fly!
Andrea

Angela - Crossing everything for you!
Suzi - Thanks for the info about the show tomorrow night. The lab where I work is near one of the pre-eminent stem cell researchers in the world. He's an amazing guy (I've actually met him many times) and I believe he was also involved in developing PGD.
Kimberly - When I was 1st pregnant with Nathaniel I had to travel. I brought my PIO and needles and syringes on the plane with me. I asked when I was checking in and the woman told me NOT to check any important medical supplies. I didn't even have a doctor's note. If you can get a note from your doctor stating that you need to take injectible medication, you really shouldn't have any issues at all. Diabetics carry insulin syringes on planes all the time.
Andrea - Glad AF finally arrived!

Amanda

Suzi - Thanks for the info about the show tomorrow night. The lab where I work is near one of the pre-eminent stem cell researchers in the world. He's an amazing guy (I've actually met him many times) and I believe he was also involved in developing PGD.

Wow! I am REALLY looking forward to seeing how 60 Minutes covers this topic!


Kimberly - When I was 1st pregnant with Nathaniel I had to travel. I brought my PIO and needles and syringes on the plane with me. I asked when I was checking in and the woman told me NOT to check any important medical supplies. I didn't even have a doctor's note. If you can get a note from your doctor stating that you need to take injectible medication, you really shouldn't have any issues at all. Diabetics carry insulin syringes on planes all the time.

I never thought of that - good info to know (and hopefully it'll be of some use to me soon! :lol: )!

ER is set for Tuesday at 830 am. I have about 11 follies ready to go with a bunch more right behind, so hopefully trigger will give me just a few more to play with.
Well I am exhausted, not sleeping well, and with this snow storm it really made things hard today. I told Ryan if we have a boy we are naming him Carson after this storm which is named that.

Angela, that's terrific! :bullhorn: Grow follies, grow!!

Things are moving along here for me. :thumbsup: I received my drugs yesterday. . .my lupron, estrogen, and Progestrone. They had ordered Crinone for me and I had told my Dr. that I wanted to try to Progestrone in oil for this cycle. I know, "ouch", as I've heard from many of you. So, I called the nurse who added the Progestrone in oil to my order anyway. I'm going to go ahead and give it a whirl. . .at least for the 11 days after transfer. If I do get pregnant :pray:, then I would probably switch to the Crinone.
Kimberly

Hello ladies!!! I am so glad to catch up with all of you after these few days away :nod:. Thanks you so much for all your good wishes and prayers during my absence. Well, my transfer went as planned, but they ended up transferring only 2 embies... at first I was a bit upset about it, but then, the biologist explained that all 5 embies made it to blasto and that they were what she considered, "excellent quality" :clap: , therefore, I would stand a much higher risk for multiple pregnancy. Just knowing the quality was soooo good, made feel much more positive about it, this time around. We froze the other three, and also found out that being frozen at blasto stage, was also more promising for future use. It was funny, but after I got my transfer, I asked if they could leave my legs up in the stirrups for a bit longer (as I was their last patient for that day), and I stayed up like that for 45 minutes :lol:... then moved to a recoup room. I guess, I wanted to feel I gave this try every possible chance to work!

Needless to say, after a lot of thinking, I decided not to attend my charity event the next day... more so, after finding out the day of my transfer, that implantation takes place between the 6th and 7th day. Since my embies were 5 day embies, their 6th day alive would have been that very next day... so why chance it, right???

I got home 4 hours later and rested well for 2 days, on the third day I got some bad news (about a friend) and was a bit upset... I sure hope that my mood change will not have a bad turn on this :crossfing.

Also, like Kim, I decided to try this time the PIO instead of the ovules and I am quite happy with my choice. Plus, I have peace of mind that it "all goes in". I was pleasantly suprised that the shots were not as painful as I expected. In the past I was always concerned with the vaginal ovules coming out and also causing such a mess :disbelief. I resumed to my normal activities on Saturday (except for driving until today) and I am now going through the "waiting period" :crossfing :crossfing. Last night (early morning) I woke up with some back ache, which freaked me out a bit, because I always get a back ache a few days before my AF, but I tried to calm myself and blame my long bed resting as the cause for it... I hope, and pray!!!

Today is day 6 after my transfer, but don´t feel anything different just yet, I hope that is good too :scratch:. Could anyone tell me: For how long do I keep up taking the baby aspirin??? Since my doctor doesn´t recommend it, its something I am doing on my own.

Ang, I am so happy for your progress and lots of sticky thoughts your way for Tuesday morning :pray: :bighug:

Kim, Thrilled to hear you are moving along so well, and in no time you too will be going through the whole process :bighug:!!! Enjoy your get away, sweetie!

Andrea, You are so cute! you made me laugh with your comment on your AF :lol:

Dawn, how is uncle coming along??? My :pray: are with you and your family

Once again gals, thank you so very much and I send you all a super big

:grouphugg
Vyonne

PS Lots of baby dust to our thread :pteddy: :bteddy: :pteddy: :bteddy: :pteddy: :bteddy: !!!

Vyonne - I never took baby aspirin so I'm no help. Fingers crossed for you!!! I hope you have sticky embryos!
Angela - I'm so excited for you!!! I hope the retrieval goes well!!!!

Amanda

Vyonne Good luck! :crossfing I know some gals who did not do IVF but did take baby aspirin for the first 3 months or so, if I recall correctly.

Angela Good luck tomorrow!

:grouphug: Thank you all so much for the information on flying with IF drugs. My first instinct is to go with carrying my lupron on the flight and the needles in my baggage. DH and I figured that if baggage was held up anywhere, needles would be easy to find. Of course, I'd hate it if any attempt on my part for buying needles was miscontrued that I'd be a drug addict. :dunno: It's only going to take a phone call for me to double check with my IVF nurse, so I'll do that.

Vyonne~I am so incredible happy for you. :clap: :ura1: I am so hoping for this for you. :crossfing: Every one of my hopes and blessings is coming your way. :bighug:

Angela~It sounds like thing are going really well. I will be sending you lots of good vibes on Tuesday. I didn't know the storm was called, "Carson". For my job at least, it was called, "a day of from work" and for me, that's awesome. :thumbsup:

One of my friends asked me recently how I could go through this and still be positive? You might think that sounds like a very negative attitude, but for me, it was my friend being right on target with what I was feeling. I hate the bullshit when my fertile friends are constantly telling me that I have to be positive. It's so nice to know that one of my friends realizes that this is a very difficult situation. So as it stands, I remain hopeful, but I can't get giddy about this. I witnessed Vyonne's and Dana's struggles. Wouldn't it be great if I had another sense of mind about this? But I don't. :sad: Don't get me wrong. I'm giving all I have to this, but it's really hard to start the dreaming and imagining when my past dreaming and imagining has failed me. Maybe tomorrow my spirits will be higher. :dunno:

Kimberly

Vyonne, what WONDERFUL news!! I am very excited for you, I sincerely hope that this will get you your BFP. When do you have your beta? Bev is about right, the baby aspirin continues just short of the second tri, about 10/11 weeks.

Kimberly, you do what what you - what else can any of us do? :dunno: I am also very proud of you and your fortitude, someday (soon) you will make a fabulous role model. :bighug:

Ladies, I am sorry to let you know that my Uncle has passed away about 2:30am today. We are just devasted.

Vyonne and Angela - Sticky sticky embies and babydust all.

Dawn

Amanda, Beverly, Kim & Suzi, Thank you so much for all your "good wishes and nice, nice words:bighug:!!! I must confess that after reading all your posts I got very sappy and started to cry like an idiot... I guess only women like us understands how important is all the support we get from our lovely group :hb: and how incredibly linked we become. Just knowing I have you all there... makes each step of the way more assertive and your prayers give me the strength I need so! :love2:

Thanks on the baby aspirin info too... at least I know I am still supposed to take them -- and now I only hope having to take them for the next three months :crossfing :awink:

Kim, I don´t get you wrong for expressing your feelings about your friend´s comments... of course, when we go through as much as we have, we are going to have moments like the one you are having... don´t be hard on yourself, just know that as long as your balance is more inclined towards "positive attitude"... you´ll be just fine :hug99:and I too pray you´ll have an awesome response from your Donor!

Vyonne

Dawn, I am so sorry for your loss. :hug99:

Dear Dawn, My heart goes out to you and your family on your loss, sweetie :sadhug:. May God grant you the serenity & comfort you need at a time like this.
Vyonne

I'm very sorry for your loss Dawn.

Amanda

Dawn-I am so sorry for your loss. :sadhug: :pray:

Vyonne-Sticky Stick Prayers :pray:your way Luv. You'll be our first BFP this year! Do you know yet when your Beta is? Hope your 2ww flys by and results in a BFP!:pray:

Amanda-Hoping transfer went well, and Sticky Sticky Embie prayers so you can be holding that little bb Carson or a dd!:crossfing:pray:

Kim-Have fun at Myrtle Beach!

Stay Stong and Baby Dust to all!
Andrea

Andrea, :omg: I hadn´t realized that I could be the first BFP of this year!!! That alone should come with some extra power, right :lol: ??? My beta should be on Saturday the 18th, but I think I am going to let the weekend go by and take it either Monday 21st or Tuesday 22nd... what a chicken, huh???

Thank you so much for your good wishes :hug1:!!!
Vyonne

hi

ER was today. They got 8 eggs. I was suprised with only 8 because I had so many more follicles, but I guess the other ones were empty. We were aiming for less eggs unlike last time I had 21 but they were bad quality. SO the goal this time was to get less but better quality, so I hope that is what happenned.I used menopur this time and I read you get less eggs but better quality. Anyone ever used Menopur before? They will call me tomorrow with a fert report. I will keep you all posted. I don't remember feeling this bad last time. I can hardly walk and going to the bathroom is not fun. I hope it goes away soon.

Dawn~ I am so sorry for your loss.
Vyonne~ Hope you get great news soon!:crossfing :crossfing

Fingers crossed for your fert report Angela!!! I used menopur for the IUI cycle where I got pregnant with Jessica. I hope you have the same luck!
Vyonne - Sending sticky prayers!

Amanda

Angela, my prayers are with you!! :pray:

Ang- I hope you are drinking your gatorade, resting and Ryan is spoiling you!

Thanks Suzi and Amanda

Ryan is taking very good care of me. He made me lunch and dinner. When I was sleeping he ran out and got me a beautiful card, a basket with a white teddy bear that says I love you and 2 red roses. He says the roses were for each of the embies we are transferring. How sweet is he!! I am drinking tons of gatorade. We rented Just Like Heaven. It was a good movie,especially On Valentine's Day!

When I was sleeping he ran out and got me a beautiful card, a basket with a white teddy bear that says I love you and 2 red roses. He says the roses were for each of the embies we are transferring.

AWWWWW!!!!! :love:

Ang, Sounds like you did GREAT :clap:!!! Quality is by far more important than quantity, so I am sure that your transfer on Friday will be amazing! My thoughts and prayers are with you and I wish you lots of luck on your fert and progress reports today :hug99: And thanks for keeping your fingers crossed for me too!!!

Amanda, Thank you for your prayers, sweetie! In a few more days, I will be taking my beta and hope to God I will get my BFP.

I was so happy to hear everything went well on your delivery. I had been waiting for you to pick in to say: CONGRATULATIONS :ura1: and let you know I am very, very happy for you and your family! And how is baby Jessica doing??? I bet she is a little treasure... :bighug:

Dawn, Thank you dear, for taking the time to think about me at a time like this. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your lovely family


Vyonne

Hello all! I've been lurking, a little nervous to join in your tight knit group, but I've been following along and each day I look forward to reading your news!!

Dawn-I'm so sorry to hear about your Uncle. I had so hoped that he would recover.

Vyonne: I'm keeping my fingers crossed that yours will be the first BFP!!!

Ang: It sounds like your husband is definitely a keeper! I hope that you're feeling better soon and that you have lots of good quality embies to transfer!

I'm still waiting for AF. I was on Lupron Depot for six months, and it put me in menopause. I've been off of it for a month and AF still hasn't come. I've been trying to get the 17 lbs that I gained being on the Lupron off, being focused on the weight loss has helped with the waiting. I'll start my first (and God willing, my last) IVF cycle as soon as AF arrives!

Hi guys! I am worried about Angela. Shouldn't we have heard about the fertility report yet? How long does it take?

Kerri, I wouldn't worry. I get results faster than just about anyone and my results come by 2pm (of the day I'm expecting them). I'm sure we'll hear from her soon! And I have to say, I am on pins and needles waiting!!

Thanks Suzi! That makes me feel better!

Kristen, just hop right in!! We were all new to this group once so we all understand what it's like! Don't let us scare you off - we are HAPPY that you are here!! :nod:

Vyonne: I'm keeping my fingers crossed that yours will be the first BFP!!!


Kristen, From your lips... to God´s ears :pray: :crossfing!!! Thank you so much!
It had been over a month since you last picked in:woa:... happy to have you back!!!

Ang, We are anxiously waiting :shuffle:... I trust you´ll be on with good news in no time :hug99:!

Vyonne

Fertilization update

out of 8, only 6 were mature and 3 fertilized normally. We wont know the quality till friday right before transfer. I am a bit disappointed I was hoping we would have a few more. I guess 3 is better than none, right. I sure hope they are 3 strong and healthy sticky babies. Please keep them in your prayers! I am doing my best to stay positive!!

Sorry to keep you on pins and needles, I didnt get the call till 130pm but I cant post the news till I get home from work

Sorry that you're disappointed Angela. Crossing everything for good quality embryos and a successful transfer!
Vyonne - Still saying prayers for you!
Kristen - Don't feel intimidated! Some of us have known each other for a while and others are new. I hope AF arrives soon and you can get started.

We're doing pretty well. A bit tired but that's to be expected! Jessica's baby naming ceremony is this weekend so we're preparing for that. Nathaniel just turned 2 last weekend. It's hard to believe how quickly it's gone!

Amanda

Fertilization update

out of 8, only 6 were mature and 3 fertilized normally. We wont know the quality till friday right before transfer. I am a bit disappointed I was hoping we would have a few more. I guess 3 is better than none, right. I sure hope they are 3 strong and healthy sticky babies. Please keep them in your prayers! I am doing my best to stay positive!!

Sorry to keep you on pins and needles, I didnt get the call till 130pm but I cant post the news till I get home from work

Angela, don't lose hope!! On my only fully successful IVF resulting in Julia, I had 9 follies, 7 eggs, only 5 fertilized and at transfer we had 3 and we put everything back. Hang in there...it is even possible with ONE. :hug99: :pray:

Angela-Sorry your er wasn't the greatest, but at least you have Ryan taking good care of you. I'll pray for you little embies to grow into healthy beautiful babies and a BFP #2 for our group! Take care of yourself luv!

Kirsten-You always welcome to jump on in, your part of the group, sweets! Praying your AF shows up tootsweet for you so you can start your cycle! I tell myself I must be PG or p/u a cheap HPT and she shows up right afterwards, reverse psych. Are you on a certain Diet plan? I was doing south beach and I lost a 15 lbs but I still have 11 more to get to me goal wieght. I just dont think I'm gonna make the march cut off to get it gone! April I hope I start gaining! I'll keep everything crossed that AF shows up soon so you can join us March cyclers!

Vyonne-On pins and needles waiting for your beta! Sticky Sticky babies!!!!! Cant wait till Monday! Although if it were me I'd be in the blood lab begging them to test me on Sat!!! I never was really good at waiting!

Amanda, Thank you for your prayers, sweetie! In a few more days, I will be taking my beta and hope to God I will get my BFP.

I was so happy to hear everything went well on your delivery. I had been waiting for you to pick in to say: CONGRATULATIONS :ura1: and let you know I am very, very happy for you and your family! And how is baby Jessica doing??? I bet she is a little treasure... :bighug:
Vyonne

Amanda, I meant to say that I couldn´t wait for you to PEEK in :lol:. I wish you all the best this weekend on Jessica´s name ceremony. I sure greatly appreciate your continued prayers :hug99:

Ang, Chin up sweetie :bighug:. I know sometimes we have greater expectations... but like they all say: It takes ONE good one!!! My :pray: are with you and your peanuts, so that they make it wonderfully for Friday´s Transfer. Sticky, sticky, sticky embies :crossfing!!!

Andrea, Thanks hon, and please continue to send me your great sticky, sticky vibes :hug99:!!! I am too in pins and needles! A part of me wants to test early... but the "chicken" part of me pushes me to wait :rolleyes:.
But believe me when I tell you that I´ve never wanted time to fly faster than this 2ww!!!

Vyonne

I am so fuming right now!!!! I called Uconn because I am still spotting bright red blood and just passed a good sized clot for the 2nd time today so I became concerned and Dr Deluigi called me back. I guess my chart says difficult retrieval due to location of one of the ovaries. Why did they not tell me this before?? I had to find that out now at 930pm. I am so upset. I really think they should have told me that. Dr Deluigi felt so bad she apologized like 3x for it. She said maybe those 8 are from one ovary if they couldnt get to the 2nd one. SHe is not sure about that one but said it was a possibility to my only getting 8 eggs. She said she will Have DR maier call me( he did the ER) tomorrow as well as the embryologist to give me any insight on my embies and why only 3 fertilized. We will see if they call. I am trying to remain calm and hopeful but I am worried the odds are against us.

:hug99: Angela - please don't lose hope! You have 3 excellent embies waiting to snuggle in. And I can report that over the weekend my friend delivered a healthy baby boy - who was her only embie at transfer time and she was understandably negative about the whole cycle but - bam it worked! That being said, I don't blame you at all for being furious, I hope they can get to the bottom of everything for you, you definitely should have been told about the issue day of and I woudl assume that the bleeding is from your ovaries and has nothing to do with your lining but ask them.

Dawn I am so sorry for your loss :hug99:

Vyonne - I have been following along and :pray: for you! Have you got some nice treats planned for yourself during the wait?

Kim - hope the travelling goes off without a hitch and glad you have an IRL friend who understands.

Hello to everyone else! Not sure I mentioned here or not but we are delayed a cycle due to some residual stuff. I'll be having an operative hystercopy in March and then hopefully we will be on for FET in April.

Thank you everyone for you condolences - we had a get together yesterday and everyone told their favorite Uncle story - it was a happy and sad event.

Ang - sticky sticky embies to you.

Vyonne - I am keeping everything crossed.

Kim - have a great time.


Lots of babydust to everyone!!

Ang, I am sorry to hear that you had to go through all that BS, and that they didn´t even have the courtesy to let you what was going on :angry2:, I´d be furious too! However, I would advise you not to let that issue get you down... remember your state of mind is very, very important! I am sure that your 3 embies are multiplying beautifully and tomorrow you´ll have a nice surprise and a great transfer! Sticky, sticky, sticky embies :hug1:!!!

Judy, Thank you darling :hug99: ! I´ve always considered that prayers are the best gift anyone can give you!!! Actually, I have been extremely pampered these days. On Valentine´s was my wedding anniversary and I was spoiled beyond words, and then 2 days later (today)... it is my Birthday, so DH had 3 gifts for me... one from him and one for each embie, which was soooo sweet and touching! I guess Ang and I have pretty special DHs :supergrin

Dawn, Thank you sweetie... I sure need it and very much appreciate it :bighug:

Vyonne

We transferred all 3 embies. All were 8 cells, 2 average quality and 1 below average. Dr Schmidt said pg chance is 45 to 50 %, 10 % of trips, and 20 % for twins and 60% FOR A SINGLETON. I am pleased, that is all I hoped for going in there today. He said they are alive and doing well and are growing. Yesterday Deb told me 2 weren' t doing so well and 1 looked good. So I was pretty upset yesterday because I thought we would only have 1 to transfer but I as pleasantly suprised today. We are hopeful and thats all we can do for now.

We transferred all 3 embies. All were 8 cells, 2 average quality and 1 below average. Dr Schmidt said pg chance is 45 to 50 %, 10 % of trips, and 20 % for twins and 60% FOR A SINGLETON. I am pleased, that is all I hoped for going in there today. He said they are alive and doing well and are growing. Yesterday Deb told me 2 weren' t doing so well and 1 looked good. So I was pretty upset yesterday because I thought we would only have 1 to transfer but I as pleasantly suprised today. We are hopeful and thats all we can do for now.

Awesome news Angela! I'll be praying for Sticky Sticky Embies and a BFP in 2w for you! This is so exciting 2 in the 2ww!:ura1:

Angela - That's great!!!! Sending lots of sticky thoughts to you!
Vyonne - More sticky thoughts! Happy Anniversary and Happy Birthday!

Amanda

Wow! So much going on!

Dawnie~I am so very sorry to hear about the passing of your uncle. :sadhug: Gatherings in memory of a loved one are always a nice opportunity to to remember that he'll always live in your hearts.

Angela~It's true what others said. . it only takes one. What a rollercoaster ride you've been on these past few days huh? I'm sending you some sticky vibes girl!

Judy~Sounds like your cycle delay is a good decision to get some other things out of the way. Also, more of a chance for you to be fully ready for the next one. I'll be here routing for you. :ura1:

Vyonne~I've been thinking about you and I'm sending you sticky vibes. We all looking forward to seeing a BFP in this thread. :awink:

Kristen~Welcome. Of course you should join this group! We love having new people. :)

Andrea~What a lucky girl you are! As always, wishing you all the best.

I'm in a band and we had a show last night (Thursday) and had tons of rehearsals prior to that. (Every night this week). I'm on BCP, I started the Lupron on Wednesday and because due to these drugs in my system, I haven't been the most patient person. My band mates have been wondering what's up with me. I manage the band and dealing with the egos of musicians is difficult but combine that with the effects of the Lupron. . .look out! Anyway, our show last night went really well. So now, finally tomorrow, I'm on my way to Myrtle Beach for some R&R. From this point until the beta which will be a BFP of course :awink: I'm not doing any band stuff, auditions, or getting talked into a girls night out. Why? Because I'm preparing myself for the baby. :awink:


Kim

Ang- I hope you are laying flat right now! I never got Desperate Housewives to you! :( You never let us know what happened with your bleeding. Did they not get any eggs from your other ovary?

From this point until the beta which will be a BFP of course :awink: I'm not doing any band stuff, auditions, or getting talked into a girls night out. Why? Because I'm preparing myself for the baby. :awink:
Kim

Kim, Love your atittude sweetie... way to go :clap:!!! We have to start getting those BFPs to spice up our thread :nod:... let´s see if I can start it, and not let it stop until we all get it!!! Thanks so much for your sticky vibes :hug99:. Enjoy your time away at Myrtle Beach!

Amanda, Thank you hon :hug99:, I sure enjoyed both dates very much! And please keep on rolling those sticky thoughts my way :nod:

Ang, See??? I told you your peanuts would do wonderfully for today´s transfer... no wonder my DH sometimes calls me a Witch :lol:. Tons of Crazy Glue Thoughts your way babe :hug99:

Vyonne

Angela - I am glad your transfer went well Sticky vibes and cement glue thoughts are being sent your way - you have been through alot in the past week just relax and let them embies dig in :justahug:


Kim - Thank you so much - it is a comfort to know that he touch so many people's lives and everyone has such good memories to treasure. I miss him more than I can say.

I think that it is great that you can

Dawn :wavey:

Kim - part of my response was accidently deleted by a flick of my wrist and this crazy mouse

As I was saying "I think that it is great that you can " take the time from what I would assume is a very demanding job so that you can have a relatively stress free cycle - That is great - any word when you think the retrival will take place? I hope you have a blast at Myrtle Beach!!

Kerri~ They said the bleeding was normal, just from the trauma of the ER. It is completely gone now. Go figure! Now I am wishing I had a touch of spotting to maybe indicate implantation.

Vyonne~ Any word yet?? I am thinking nothing but a ++++ for you!

Kim~ I am glad your life is getting calmer. I know how busy life can be and it's just so nice to have some down time for a bit.

Dawn~ So Sorry for your loss. Can't remember if I told you that yet or not. This past week has been a blur.


As for me, I am still feeling like crap, hardly any sleep, back pain, and a bloated abdomen. I sware this was the worst week of my life. If I am pg it will so be worth it and I would do it all over again. I am trying not to stress and worry about my embie quality. I just don't get it. I feel like something went wrong, but I don't know what. Whatever will be will be. I am doing an HPT sunday. It should be accurate as it will be 9dp3dtx. I want to prepare myself for the worst and if it is good news I will know sooner than later.

Angela, I'm sorry you aren't feeling well! :hug99: I'm sorry also that you feel like something went wrong - if it helps at all your experience doesn't sound out of the ordinary to me. I have had a few difficult retrievals, one where they even left follicles because they couldn't get to them. The range of normal is indeed very wide. Just the same, I know you were hoping for more embies but sometimes that just doesn't happen. There could be issues with egg quality (overall) or you could've just tapped into a cycle that was not as good as others for you. Just as in my boat - there is nothing to explain why I get 9 follicles the first and second IVF and the third cycle I had to drop due to lack of response! :dunno:

Hang in there! Your statement that what will be will be is the closest thing to written law when it comes to IVF. I have seen people many times over transfer 3 or more A+ embies and get nothing time and again. On the flip side, I have seen women transfer back 2 C/D quality embryos and end up PG with twins. WHat I am trying to get at is embryo quality seems to have very little to do with it. So change what's in your control and stay as stress-free and positive as you can - those babies NEED it! :aok:

Oh yeah...and if you HPT on 9dp3dt a positive would be reliable but a negative is NOT always reliable that soon. I have known many who test negative and get a BFP beta. :nod:

Thanks Suzi! I was just reading the last thread when I Did my last IVF and you said, Embryo quality is not a road I want to go down as it means nothing , basically what you just said. I know your right and I know I shouldnt expect everything to be perfect like last time except for the BFN, of course

Ang, Thank you sweetie... Like you I am trying to think ++++++++++ as much as I can. Although, as I get closer to D Day... I get quite nervous. I don´t know if I mentioned it, but I´ll do my beta on Wednesday :crossfing and will have the results in the afternoon

The only thing different this time around, is that in all my previous trasfers I would start to get little cramps and lower backache around days 8 or 9 after trasfer and by day 12 or 13 I would get a period (hardly ever made to taking my beta first. This time is quite strange, because I haven´t had any cramps or backache and this time around I am a bit nauseated and my breasts are quite sensitive (sleepy too), totally different. When I mentioned it to my RE on Friday, he said it could be the effect of the hormones (Estrogen) that play tricks on you. I guess he doesn´t want to build my hopes up too high, given all the past disappointments :dunno: we´ve had. So all I can do at this point, less than 48 hours away from my beta, is pray hard and hope I am indeed pregnant :pray:

Oh Ang! I sure hope that we will soon bring the first 2 BFPs to our wonderful thread :hi5:. I also hope that you´ll start to feel much better in no time. I know it is hard to relax when things don´t come out as expect it... but I am sending tons of sticky, sticky, sticky thoughts your way darling, and my prayers are with you :hug99:

Vyonne

Vyonne, also wishing great results for you!! :pray:

Oops! I guess I could post my progress...tomorrow Chris goes for his SA...this one is the tell-all of whether or not we go with a May cycle. I am VERY hopeful that we will have much improved SA results - possibly even too hopeful. I think if the results are not at least back to where they have been previously, I will be crushed. At any rate, please :pray: for great SA results - should have them back by early next week.

I have fingers crossed for good news tomorrow from both Vyonne and Suzi!!!

Amanda

Greetings from Myrtle Beach! (The condo we're staying in has high speed access and we brought our computer).

Vyonne~All my good positive wishes and prayers are coming your way. :pray: Things are sounding really promising. Only a few more hours to go. :crossfing

Angela~I'm so sorry that you're feeling so horrible right now. :sadhug: In the same vein of what Suzi said, as difficult as it is not to do, it's probably best NOT to make assumptions. Believe me, I do it all the time but in the end, worrying about something that has not happened is not going to do you any good.

Suzi~:pray: :crossfing

Dawnie~I think retrieval/transfer should happen sometime in the 3rd week of March? :dunno:

I just finished taking the BCP. :yippee: But I'm still on the Lupron. I think I wait for AF to arrive and then will start on the estrogen. I will probably have more exact dates when I call the nurse after AF arrives. Although it's been cold and rainy here in Myrtle Beach :blue: it's been really good for me to be away. I've been able to catch up on sleep, get in some exercise, and just relax. Regardless of what the weather is doing, we've taken long walks on the beach every morning. It's been so good for my spirit. I just hope that when we get to back to Boston, all my stress won't come back right away. I just want to stay calm, cool, and stress-free from now until the BFP. :awink: That maybe unrealistic, but I'm going to try. :thumbsup:

Kimberly

I just want to stay calm, cool, and stress-free from now until the BFP. :awink: That maybe unrealistic, but I'm going to try. :thumbsup:

Sounds like a perfect plan!! :nod:

Ang- I'm so sorry that you're feeling down. I'm keeping everything crossed that you'll have your BFP and all that that you've been through will be SO worth it!!!!

Vyonne- I'm waiting on pins and needles to hear the GREAT news!!!

Suzi- I'm praying that your husband's SA is vastly improved and that you will be able to start your cycle in May!!!


I'm STILL waiting for AF. I've been dieting and exercizing to pass the time, the Lupron Depot weight is coming off SO slowly :furious:! I've got my 20th class reunion this summer and I'm so hoping to be pregnant!

Kristen

Preliminary SA results are in...concentration has increased to 300K (from 30K) and motility is at 37%. It is a big increase but (of course) I was optimistic for much better! I will take it though! :aok:

Suzy, Amanda, Kim & Kristen, Needless to say, I am sooooooooooooo nervous!!! Last night I did not sleep well at all :woa:... so I can imagine how it will be this last evening before the test! I thank you all for your sticky thoughts, baby dust, good vibes, great wishes and uncountable prayers... My doctor, the biologist and I, have done all there is to be done humanly possible. Plus, have been nagging at God so much, that just to shut me up, I hope He´ll answer my prayers :lol:. Now I am solely in God´s hands and like Ang once said: What will be... will be!!! Trusting in God :pray: I will go to sleep this evening and will take the test tomorrow...

Suzy, I will be :pray: so hard, so that Chris surprises us all with his amazing SA results :crossfing!!!

Kim, It is so cool that you get to relax like this right at the beginning of your treatment... nothing like nurturing your spirit :rose:! Enjoy it, and I wish you terrific results, sweetie! You are only a few weeks away from D day :ura1: !!!
Kristen, I know sometimes things don´t move as fast as we want them (tell me about it!)... but you´ll do just great at your 20th class reunion! May God grant you the pregnancy you so want :pray: for that time too!

Just so you all know, I will be posting my results in the evening, because I have an all day event tomorrow (out of all days)... but I promise to run home as soon as I can and post... :crossfing :pray: :crossfing :pray: :crossfing :pray: :crossfing :pray: :crossfing :pray: :crossfing :pray: :crossfing :pray: :crossfing :pray: and many more...

Vyonne :love2:

Preliminary SA results are in...concentration has increased to 300K (from 30K) and motility is at 37%. It is a big increase but (of course) I was optimistic for much better! I will take it though! :aok:
Wonderful news Suzi!!! :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: I am so happy for both of you!!!
Vyonne

Vyonne~ Between you and me nagging God, He is bound to grant us our biggest desire. I have nothing but good thoughts for you.

Kristen~ I hope you are PG before the reunion. When is it? I just noticed you are in Florida. What I wouldn't give to be there right now. It is freezing here. Hope AF is here soon for you.

Kim~ Hope your enjoying your vacation. Definitely sounds like it. Nothing like a little rest for the soul. I think its great that you were able to do this before you started this process.


Suzi~ I think that is excellent news and it's definitely a step in the right direction.

As for me, life just gets better and better. DH was laid off again. This is just so tiring after awhile. But on the +++ side, we came across a job tonight that sounds too good to be true. It's a linesman apprentice and his salary would be double of what he was making. It offers Excellent benefits, pension, It's working for the city. So last I knew they have excellent medical benefits such as excellent IF coverage. So the resume is being sent out 1st thing in the am. He did apply for a similar position awhile back elsewhere and they did call him but at the time he had already found a job and wanted to stay. So please fingers crossed for that one too.
I am feeling a bit better, still sore, my back is killing me like I have never felt. Is that normal with IVF? I know last time it was not an issue. The bloating has gone down but the soreness is still there along with the sore boobies. I am praying Sunday delivers the most glorious news. The cramps have been minimal too. It's funny when I am in bed and on my back, I get them. I turn over and they go away. Strange, huh?

Vyonne - I am hoping praying and keeping everything crossed!!!


I appologize for not posting more frequently everyone, we have had huge issues with internet access at home and hopefully will be back up fully in a few days - anyway, I am very hopeful for BFP's for Angela and Vyonne!!

Suzi glad you got good results and Kim, I definitely agree and am sending you relax until your BFP vibes!

Positive thoughts to all!! Wish I could write more but I fear I will be booted off in a minute!!:eviltongu stooopid verizon!

Glad the s/a results were better Suzi!
I'm saying a few extra prayers Vyonne.
Angela - I'm sorry about the job situation. Fingers crossed that this new job opportunity works out!

Amanda

Dawn -- I am so sorry to hear about your uncle. My thoughts & prayers are with you & your family at this time.

Vyonne-- Lots of babydust & prayers your way! You will be in my thoughts tomorrow.

Angela --I'm so sorry about your husband's job. My husband lost his job the day after we did our transfer with my 2nd IVF. I took it as a sign that it wasn't going to work. I was wrong -- my daughter turns 3 on Saturday! I hope it works out the same for you.

Suzi -- So glad that the SA results were better!

-- Carla

Hello girls!!! One last peek...

Ang, Judy, Amanda & Carla, I am so thankful with your good wishes and prayers for my test today :bighug:! It feels great to count with so many wonderful women given you the sincere strength one needs... I feel like Wonder Woman :supergrin (thanks to you all)! I got up quite early and I am most anxious to have those results in my hands :crossfing :pray: already!!!

Until later...

Vyonne

:pray:

Suzi~Awesome news! :thumbsup:

Kristen~Pregnant in time for your 20th reunion? You will be!!! There, I said it! I just put those positive vibes out there in the Universe for you. :heee:

Angela~I'm so sorry to hear about your husband's job loss. But if this event is similiar to the other things that have happened in your life lately, it seems like it could be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully, he will be able to land that better job. . . .and likewise, all those aches and pains? They may be all worth it in the end. :crossfing Sunday is not too far away. :bighug:

Vyonne~ :pray:

We're going to try to get out and play some miniature golf this morning. I guess Myrtle Beach is the place to go for golfing and there are tons of elaborate minature golf courses around here. We have a few hours to be outside before the rain is suppossed to arrive again. :rolleyes: I used one of my meditation CDs this morning and it was really helpful in getting my spirit ready for this cycle. I try to stay positive but the reality is that I'm very nervous and fearful of getting my hopes up too much. As always, I have no other choice but to take it day by day and hope my dreams come true.

Kimberly

Vyonne ~~ :pray: +++++++++ thoughts your way.

Carla, Thank you - any updates for you? How are things going?

Suzi - I am happy to hear about the s/a results and hope this means you can proceed with your cycle.

Ang - :crossfing Hope your husband gets the job. I know how frustrating it can be my DH is an electrician and he gets laid off and/or has to go on furlow more times then I care to remember. This is the first time in years that he has had steady work for almost a whole year.
I am keeping everything crossed for you. Sticky thoughts you way. :redflower

Kristen - Gee don't I know about weight loss moving slowly - I feel like I am gaining and losing the same 5lbs for the past 2 months.

:rahrah:
I am finally making some head way with my insurance difficulties they have evaluated 4 of the 6 claims and are paying my RE!!!:ura1: 2 claims are still pending and I am hoping to get back most of the $9000 that I laid out. Once this gets straighten out my sisters can go in for preliminary testing and I can get my ball rolling.


I wish spring would come already!!

Dawn :cold:

Suzi- YAY!! That's great news!!!:ura1:

Vyonne- You've been in my thoughts today! I can't wait to hear the wonderful news!! :bfp:

Angela- I'm so sorry to hear about your husband's job situation. I really hope that this new opportunity works out for him. I've been laid off twice, and each time the jobs that I found after the layoffs were much better pay and definitely helped boost my career! I'm happy to hear you're feeling a little better and keeping everything crossed for positive news on Sunday!!

I tried Billy Blanks Boot Camp last and am so sore today that I feel 100 years old. Each time I move I'm reminded what poor shape I'm in!
Still no AF, but my sister was over last night and I gave her my box of tampons so she didn't have to run to the store, so I'm sure to get it today! :lol:

Kristen

Hello All... Anyone in the 2ww now... I did a FET on Monday and I have a beta on March 7th... so I was wondering if there was anyone who wanted to bite fingernails with me?

There are no words to express my sadness and disappointment over my negative results... Since my symptoms were completely different this time, I had a trickle of hope. However, after the results my RE still wants me to repeat the test on Friday, because it was not a complete "0" reading. He said the chances of things drastically changing to a BFP on Friday, are very, very slim...

He also mentioned that he feels my linning may continue to be the problem (ever since my twin´s d&c) and suggested one last surgery and then one final attempt when its at its prime... quite honestly right now I am in a fog, and can´t think straight. I am devastated with the results and I need to go to bed, cry my eyes out and ask God why so many unanswered prayers :cry:

Thank you so very much for all your continues support, good wishes and prayers! Your friendship is a treasure no matter what the results...

Vyonne

Vyonne- I am so very very sorry. :bighug:

Vyonne, I am so sorry. :sadhug:

Vyonne - I am just broken-hearted for you. I am so sorry.

Amanda

Vyonne~There are just no words to express my sadness. . . :sadhug: :disbelief :tear:


Kim

Vyonne, I am so TRULY sorry. :hug99: We are here when you are ready to regroup.

Vyonne - Words can not express how truly sorry I am - we will all be here for you when you are ready to talk - :justahug:

:blue: I'm sorry, Vyonne. :hug99:

Vyonne, I'm so sorry. We're here when you're ready.

Take care of yourself,

Kristen

Vyonne, Words cannot express how sad I am for you, take care of yourself.:sadhug: :hug99:

Hugs and Prayers
Andrea

Vyonne~ I am so so sorry and so heartbroken for you. I wish I could take away your pain that you are feeling now. Please take the time you need and I hope you will return and let us know how you are doing.

Vyonne :sadhug:I am so deeply saddened to hear your news. I know how much energy you put into this cycle. I wish I had words to help. Please take good care of yourself in whatever way feels good right now.

Hi everyone. I came upon your thread while searching the internet for info. on my coming FET. I don't know a thing about boards or threads or whatever, and I don't know the abbreviations or anything, but you all seem so supportive and I am wondering if I could join in?

I conceived my oldest daughter (now 4.5 years) through IVF, though it took five attempts. The time that worked we did a FET using laproscopic surgery, a procedure called 'TET', where the embryos were inserted directly into my tubes. He actually put four in the tubes, and one in the traditional way.

I conceived my younger daughter naturally, and what a surprise.

I am now hoping to use my remaining frozen embryos (4 of them, so-so quality) to do another TET. Does anyone know about this procedure? I am getting raised eyebrows all around and am contemplating just having him transfer the 'regular' way, although I am superstitious and feel like the only way it will work is if I do everything the same way I did before.

I'm feeling a bit weird/guilty :shuffle: b/c I know how hard it has been on so many of you, and here I have two children. I have heard SO many miracle stories from 'real' people I know and speak to daily, so I knwo there is hope for all. I understand if I don't belong here, though. Just thought I'd give it a try.

Best wishes to all of you!! :pray:

Rho...you ABSOLUTELY belong here!!! We are happy to have you, WELCOME to our wonderfully supportive little family! :nod:

I also have one daughter, an IVF baby from my first try. Five ultimately unsuccessful attempts later we still don't have another baby, we are about to make our last attempt in April/May.

As for your TET, if I am not mistaken I think most places call it ZIFT?? If you don't mind me asking, what is the reasoning behind your treatment with TET/ZIFT vs. IVF (if not primarily getting the zygote/embryo back into its natural setting asap)??

Don't be afraid to ask any questions, we have all been new to the group at one point or another. We are just glad you are here!! Best of luck!!

:welcome: Rho - Suzi is right you definately belong here - we are all here for each other to be supportive or just to have a place to where people understand what you are going through - because most of my family and friends do not understand what I am going through - but all of the wonderful ladies on this thread do.

So welcome - join right in - which abreviations are you unsure of?

I personally never heard of TET and did not know that ZIFT was the same

Dawn:2pounds:

Rho:welcome:! I'm new, too, and I already feel like part of the "family"!
This is a wonderful place to find support, and the fact that you already have children via IVF and naturally is even better because it gives the rest of us hope when we hear success stories!!

Kristen

Hmmm, I hope I'm doing this right...

Anyway, THANKS! I feel very welcome!

Good luck in April, Suzi!

WELL...after so many failed IVF attempts first time around, I asked the doc if there were any more options and explained that I had read about GIFT online. He gave my case some thought and told me about the TET (ZIFT?) procedure and I said yes yes yes let's do it. And it worked. So call me crazy but I want to do things the same way as before. I honestly don't know nearly as much as all of you although I really should be more in the know since this is all happening to MY body. This time around the doc was less-OK with doing TET but I maintained my position. I went in today for blood/sono and he wasn't in, so the nurse put a note in my file that I wanted to talk to him about it again (the TET). I was telling her that so many people are doing double takes at my file that I'm getting nervous I'm doing the wrong thing. I asked if there was an increased risk of ectopics but they wouldn't say. They told me to talk to the doctor. hmmmmmm. I will certainly let you know the outcome and I'll have him explain the procedure better so I can relay the info here.

I was worried that I had missed two doses of my estrace and that I messed everything up, but my lining was what it should be today and they're talking Wednesday/Thursday transfer time. I have to call in this pm and I should know for sure. i hope.

Gosh that was long-winded, wasn't it?

Welcome Rho! I've never heard of TET either but it worked for you before I understand the desire to repeat what was sucessful!

How exciting that you are so close to transfer!

Rho, I firmly believe that you don't mess with what you know works - so does my RE. I say push for what you've already done - you were successful and there's no medical reason/compelling evidence to change it.

Welcome Rho! I'm glad you decided to join in! I've never heard of TET before and know only the minimal on ZIFT but I am wishing you a wonderfully positive transfer! I wouldn't worry that having children already makes us less likely to share with you. Those who have children are proof that IVF works are an inspiration to keep going.

Suzi, So glad DH's SA results were so much better! I cant wait for your cycle to start!

Angela hows your 2ww going? Crossing everything and sending BFP thoughts and prayers your way.

Vyonne- how did the second Beta go today? I know you were saying that it was slim but I was still praying it would turn into a +? Your in my thoughts and prayers, Luv.

OK I don't have alot of experience with the BCPs but tell me if this is normal: My boobs are so sore I want to chop them off so that I can at least sleep, I'm bitchy and irritable like super bad PMS the kind that causes spousal abuse, and I'm craving chocolate and white wine like its going out of style, I dont want to turn into a ginormous lush in the next few weeks! I seriously almost slapped DH last night over nothing! I'm never violent! Is suprefact going to make this way worse? Cause' I'm starting that Monday and 0.5cc's seems like alot? The oranges dont mind the stabbing but I'm starting to think I will! I started to book acupuncture and changed it to pressure (Insert chicken call here). I feel so completely off, and I'm out of white wine and the only chocolate we have is super fattening belgium milk (it's amost gone and there was like a pound there a minute ago!) I am attributing this to the BCPs because thats the only change I've made to my body, am I normal or should I be concerned that the suppresion may turn me into a homicidal hopped up on chocolate maniac? In better news I think the 24 hours spent painting my basement may have worked off the chocolate and the wine that I only drank cause it was in the fridge...

Andrea... :lol: Hope the Suprefact doesn't give you much trouble. I think it can cause all the same s/e as Lupron - hot flashes, headaches, BB tenderness... SORRY!

Rho~Welcome. You absolutely belong here. . .although I can't answer your question. :heee: I wish you all the best.

Andrea~O.K. do you remember me talking about how I wanted to be on BCP for the least amount of time possible even though the REs seemed to insist on me starting on it while I waited for the donor so I'd be more ready when the time came? Well, exactely what you're going through is what my fuss was all about. :angry2: Interestingly enough, I was on it for years while I was a single gal and didn't have many issues. NOW, Look out! It makes me moody, I want to eat sweets, my mind is constantly going a mile a minute with anxieties. :crazy: Unfortunately (and fortunately) for me, I have lots of wine around because DH is in the biz. I know I've been craving wine a lot, but my guess is that it's due to the anxieties and I know a couple of glasses of wine chill me out. I wish wine was like spinach. . .no matter how much of it I have, I know it's good for me. :rolleyes: Anyway, my dear, as my husband said while I was on a rant about having to take BCPs :fado: "It'll be over with soon". I wish you much sanity for the next few weeks. :awink: If you can afford it, how about treating yourself to a nice spa day? A massage, maybe a facial and manicure. That relaxing experience should last for at least. . .a day. :lol:

On that note, I'm happy to say (so to speak) that I've started on the estrogen. Although I'm off the BCP, I'm still taking Lupron in addition to the estrogen. I just started it yesterday (estrodial tabs and vivelle patch), but I've already had nausea and insomnia. The headaches and bloatedness and tender breasts were already there with the BCP and Lupron, but now add nausea. :rolleyes: Can any of you ladies who've been on estrogen tell me what else I should expect? I just hope that all this misery will be worth it in the end. I was out with my sisters last night and told them that "they suck" because they're not very supportive. I got a tongue lashing this morning and had no other choice but to apologize. I really need to keep my mouth shut for the next few weeks. :mope:

By the way, I'm back in Boston and had a nice time in Myrtle Beach. But wouldn't you know, 10 minutes off the plane as we're flagging down a cab, work called with an emergency issue I had to deal with. . .. .I pray I can make through these next few weeks without making too many enemies. :heee:

Vyonne~If you're out there, you are on my mind and I'm sending many prayers for recovery during this time. :sadhug:

Kim

Hello to you all, and thank you so much for standing by my side and trying to help ease my pain and sadness with your kind words and multiple hugs! They sure were very welcomed and I am most thankful to have you. Sorry I had to get in my shell for a couple of days, but I needed to meditate what went on and vent my sadness/anger combination with my pillow, as I didn´t feel anyone else should have to put up with it. Your words and your true care have once again helped me get up, to pick up the pieces... and I am convinced that: "Each down is a new beginning". I feel so very blessed to have you all... you truly are amazing and your dedication to one and other in our thread is what keeps "our family" so strong! Thank you, from the deepest of my heart and soul :grouphugg

My heart aches terribly, and still feel a bit out of it... but yesterday after doing my second beta (Andrea, thank you for asking) and getting a second negative, I decided I was ready to go see my DR and talk about what to do next. Needless to say, DH is in complete mourn and does not want to even talk about the subject. So I got up yesterday determined to face the next step alone (for now). I just didn´t want to leave for tomorrow, what I could do right then. I needed to know if this would be it, or if I could stand another chance... that thought alone was eating me up inside and had me way down.

At the Dr´s ofc, we came to the same conclusion... the egg quality was excellent, so the only problem that remains is my poor endometrium that perhaps needs another "cleaning" (laparoscopy). Dr said that when we decided to do the surgery 1 year ago to repair the lousy job at d&c from the other DR, we did it hoping to start a new IVF within a couple of months after the "cleaning"... but because that was the first cycle we´d try with DE, we wasted almost 8 months (the first time around) trying to find a donor. I did my endo surgery on February 2005 and my DE cycle (IVF/ICSI) was on October 2005 (remember?). At that point when it did not work, we blamed it on my DH´s bad sperm and the poor quality eggs that other donor produced. At no time we thought it could have been my linning growing again scar tissue... but now that it happened a second time around and this time with better DH´s sperm and excellent quaity eggs, the conclusion is more determined... it is my endo. By the way Suzi, how did your DH sperm quality got better? Is he on special meds?

Well, the decision I took yesterday at the Dr´s ofc. is that I will undergo another surgery to clean and prepare my endo the best we can (as soon as AF appears)... and immediately thereafter do ONE FINAL IVF/ICSI ATTEMPT. I already contacted the Donor, and she is willing to donate once again, so we´ll see what happens. I want to start from scratch, so will do the cycle all over, so that we can have FRESH eggs to transfer. At least I will have closure knowing that we have covered every possible issue in the road to success! The estimated time for my next attempt would be April/May... God´s willing!

Ang, My thoughts and prayers :pray: are with you for tomorrow! I wish you all the necessary luck to get your BFP!!!

Rho, Welcome! You´ve come to the best place on earth!!!

Love you all,

Vyonne

Vyonne, I am SHOCKED but so INCREDIBLY HAPPY for you!! I am GLAD that you have come to this conclusion and I have to agree...this is the last thing to treat, until you turn every stone, you will never feel at ease with the decision to quit trying. Clearly, that's how I am at IVF #7!! :lol2:

I am glad that you have a plan of action - I truly believe that it helps assuage the pain and allows you to move forward. :hug99: to you!

Vyonne~It's so nice to hear from you and that you're on to the next step. It sounds like getting a prognosis on everything really helps to push you to that next step. I know that things are still rough for you, but it's so good to know that it's not over yet. Could I ask more fully, what is the problem with the lining that would inhibit a pregnancy? Basically, why should you have a laparoscopy and what problems did the D&C cause?

Kim

Suzi, Thank you for your words! And like you say... this new plan of action is what helps assuage my tremedous pain. On another token, I´ve always heard that 7 is a lucky number... and this next one, will also be number 7 for me!!! :hug99:

Could I ask more fully, what is the problem with the lining that would inhibit a pregnancy? Basically, why should you have a laparoscopy and what problems did the D&C cause? Kim
Kim, Thank you :hug99: and I am happy to be back, knowing that is not over yet too! Regarding your question about my problem is as follows: As you know (from our previos 2005 thread) I went through a "bad" D&C (twins´s loss) that caused a permanent damage to my endometrium, making it not only weaker, but with severe scar tissue due to the over scrapping the other DR. (if we can call her that :fado: ) caused when performing the D&C. Last year and after several failed IVF´s my new DR sugested going in to "clean" my endo from all that scar tissue that interfered with embryo implantation, given the bad surface it had. However, when we did the surgery, was February 2005 and my DR wanted to try my next IVF within a couple of months after, but given the fact that it took so long to find the Donor (my first DE cycle), my IFV took place 8 months afterwards (totally unplanned). Now, going back and analyzing everything in detail, my DR has come to the conclusion, that my failure to conceive is due to my endo having grown again scar tissue, therefore, interfering with implantation. He will go in once again and clean the surface and without any waste of time, right after my AF following surgery, he´d prepare me for my next IVF. That way the endo will not have a chance to form new scar tissue before implantation takes place. So far it is the only thing we can try as our last resource :dunno: and I am so willing to do it. On another hand, I´d like to come accross that other DR and literally hit her :fryingpan and yell on her face what a butcher she is and hope other patients are around to hear me! If I were in the States, I´d fight to have her license revoked :eviltongu

Vyonne

Hi everyone. Again, thanks for the many welcomes. I will start all the big meds tomorrow (Prog in oil shots, etc.) in prep for a Wednesday morning transfer. I'm freaking out about the whole thing. I just want it to work! (duh...)

Vyonne, I read up on your story and I'm very sorry for the negative but glad you are being proactive for you and going for it again. I remember those negative results coming in each month and just feeling awful, so sad and desperate. I have never forgotten those feelings and I've never taken what I have now for granted. I am grateful every single day. My husband works with a woman who did IVF something like 17 times to bring her two children into the world. I'm not saying whether that is good or bad, just something to think about. WOW. That's a lot of IM shots. OUCH. She was kind of my inspiration while I did ivfs. I'm not making this up, she really did it that many times. (good insurance) I know donor egg ivfs at my clinic have a very high success rate. Sometimes it takes a few (5,6,7,8...) tries or more! Just like trying to get pregnant the old-fashioned way. Some people try for years but eventually it happens. May God bless you and keep you in good health and spirits for the next attempt. :)

Kim, what are BCPs? OH...possibly Birth Control Pills? Just getting this stuff figured out. I didn't have to take them this time b/c it's a cryo cycle. But the estrace I think is giving me headaches. Possibly it's just my chaotic life, noise, whatever, but they seemed to have started with the estrace a couple weeks ago.

There is some info on zift/tet at Babycenter.com . I will get as much info from my doc as I can but I don't think I'll see him til transfer day. I'm going in tomorrow a.m. for the nurse to draw a black dot on my butt for the IM shots. My husband got me in the sciatic nerve once and I haven't forgotten, five years later! But I don't think he's in on Sundays.

Wishing you all the best.

:bfp: :bfp: :bfp: :dancingpi :yippee: :banana:



Finally, ater 4 years I saw 2 lines!!! it is faint, but a line is a line is a line.

Anyone know how to figure a due date with an IVF cycle?? Transfer was 2-17-06. I am 9 days past a 3 day transfer.


I am in shock!!!

Congratulations Angela! :) Hope it's a healthy, sticky one (or two).

Wooooo-hoooo!!!!

It's about freaking time SOMEONE around here got a BFP!!! Congratulations Angela...I am SO happy for you!!!

BTW....your due date is November 7!

CONGRATS Angela!!!! I am beyond happy for you!!!! Such wonderful, wonderful news!!!!
Rho - Welcome and good luck!
Andrea - Sorry you're feeling so lousy.
Vyonne - You continue to amaze me! You are such an inspiration with your optimistic attitude towards life.
Kimberly - Things are really moving along for you!!!

Amanda

Ang, Last night, right before going to bed I said another prayer for you, remembering you´d take your test today... I am so incredibly thrilled to hear your WONDERFUL NEWS :ura1: :bfp:
CONGRATULATIONS SWEETIE!!!

Amanda, Thanks you for your kind words. I just hope & pray that after my upcoming surgery I will share the joy of a BFP reading next. Waiting for AF to come to schedule surgery...

Vyonne

Vyonne, Your determination and strenght continues to inspire me.

ANG !!! Congrats!! - from what I recall you still use your last period date and count out 40 weeks.

Rho, good luck with your transfer.



Dawn

Angela~Ah hah!!!!! All those pains and aches WERE indeed worth it in the end! :ura1: :yippee: :banana: I am so frickin' happy for you! :bighug:

Kimberly

Ang- I couldn't be happier for you!! WHOO-HOO :ura1:! Congrats!!

Vyonne- It was so good to hear from you. I think it's great that you have a plan, I find when I'm dealing with things that I can't control, taking control of the things I can really helps! Take good care of yourself! And we're here if you need to vent!


I finally got my period, so I'm waiting for a call back from my RE. Things are starting to move along. Yay!!

Vyonne~Thanks so much for the info. :bighug: I have my first U/S this Thursday. I have no choice but to inquire more about my lining and if there would be any possible reason (other than the lining not being thick enough), that would inhibit a good quality egg from implantation.

Kim

Angela-:ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: Congrats! I am so happy for you!!!!!

Vyonne-I'm so glad you've come up with a plan of action to increase your chances of a BFP. I will pray that this makes all the difference in the world for you! As always you are an inspiration to stay strong through this entire process.

Kristen-Your getting so close!

Rho-Your only 2 more days from transfer? Wow thats great! Praying for a BFP for you as well!

Kim-Do you have a transfer date yet? Praying hard for you Luv! Thanks so much for letting me know they do the same to you. Having had very little expereince with BCPs its shocking that so many people take them long term if this is the effect! Hey do you read alot of Sylvia Brown? Love her writings on putting things out to the Universe for answers, and letters to the angels.

Tonight I add the suprefact to the mix of pills and potions. I have to keep reminding myself that it's only for a little while longer and the end result will be so worth it! Dh has been great and perhaps a little to eager to see me stab myself. Saturday he treated me to date night and we had a great time! TG he's being so great about the bitchiness! Started making plans with my mom to head to BC on the 6th as we have to be in Vic. for the 17th. So we are going to have a little M&D getaway before we head to the island. We are less than 1 month from ER! I cant believe how fast times are flying!

Take care and Baby dust wishes Ladies!
Andrea

Andrea, thanks! I'm getting really anxious/nervous. My dr. called me today to discuss why I am doing the TET transfer b/c I was having doubts. Tomorrow they thaw the embryos. I hope they all make it!!! If not, it's over before it starts. :( Sounds like you have a great hubby! It's so important to have that support. My husband seems to enjoy giving me the butt-shots, but I have to say, he's been better than the nurse! No pain!

ANGELA you must be SOOOOO happy right now. It's so exciting!

KIM I hope your u/s goes well on Thursday and your lining gets nice and thick and sticky. Will you be doing a transfer soon?

****baby dust****baby dust****baby dust****baby dust****baby dust****

Rho-I'm praying your embies survive the thaw and your able to transfer very sticky Embies, baby dust prayers Luv!

Well I did the shot! And I'm still alive! It was a little bit nerve racking and I cried afterwards. I had to make Dh leave the room because he was making me shake worse. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but the sticking myself thing is what almost did me in. Only a 26 more to go! Plus the other shots....God I hope we end up BFP when this is done! Oh well, what doesnt kill us makes us stronger....

Baby dust Prayers Luvs,
Andrea

Andrea, in case you were wondering, I figured up a long time ago that the average IVF cycle is about 100 shots. That does not include the PIO shots to 9-11 weeks. Just another useless fact stuck in my head... :lol2:

Rho - Good luck with the thaw and the transfer!!!
Andrea - Glad you survived the shot. The things we do...
Angela - Fingers crossed for your beta today! I hope you get a nice high number!!!

Amanda

Dawn, Kristen & Andrea, Thank you so much for your sweet words and for helping me keep going strong! All of your love & support is what makes all of us so determined to stay on the wagon :bighug:

Kristen, So happy for you that things are starting to move along. In no time you´ll have to turn around and have your DH :kissit:. Sorry, I had to do it :lol:

Andrea, I am so proud of you... you did it! I know that the first time is a big deal:woa:, but very soon when you get your BFP, you´ll agree that it was so worth it!!! And as Suzi says: get ready for about 100 more "love shots"... that´s what I call them, because only love or insanity would make you do such a thing, and I rather know that I have tremendous love instead of accepting I am totally nuts :lol:

Kim, I´d be interested to know as well. It is an issue that has haunted me for the past 3 years and has become my toughest challenge. Good luck on Thursday, my thoughts and :pray:s are with you for an ultra thick, super strong and STICKY linning for you hon :hug1:

Suzi, On a previous post (maybe over looked) I had asked you if your DH was on any special med to help improve his SA. My DH still takes the Maca, but its always interesting to hear about other options that may work even better :nod:. Just wondering...

Rho, My :pray:s are with you for all your embies to make it and for you to have a great transfer that will bring another BFP!!!

Amanda, How´s baby Jessica??? She must be so much joy to have... please give her my love!

Vyonne

Suzi, On a previous post (maybe over looked) I had asked you if your DH was on any special med to help improve his SA. My DH still takes the Maca, but its always interesting to hear about other options that may work even better :nod:. Just wondering...

Vyonne: yes, DH is taking a drug called Arimidex. It is a last ditch treatment in order to produce more sperm. It is a breast cancer drug that binds up estrogen, thereby freeing testosterone already in the system to work more effectively. I got the official word from our RE yesterday that the sperm count went from 35,000 to about 300,000, so increased about ten-fold. Not the improvement I was hoping for but I'll take it nonetheless. That number is not out of line with what we've seen in the past (before the huge drop last summer) but it certainly isn't one of the best, either.

My RE called me yesterday and he feels it is good enough for us to go ahead with our final IVF try in April/May...which means I start BCP on SUNDAY!! :wow: We are also going to go back to the long stim protocol I have used and been successful with - if you'll all remember we switched to a protocol using straight LH product (Luveris) instead of the combination product (Repronex) because I had such awful reactions to Repronex the last 2 or 3 times I used it (I got hives REALLY bad). Anyway, I believe I will be going back to that protocol and risk the hives - why screw with something that's been proven to work? We are not for sure what happened last summer... We know that Chris had something catastrophic happen to his sperm count but we cannot rule out that it was an egg problem (I stimmed in 8 days rather than my normal 11) and I don't have time to find out.

Sooooo....some Sunday we are officinally on-cycle!! :woo:

Suzi, Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat news!!! :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: April/May IVF confirmed :clap:!!! I am so happy for you Suzi! Best of luck :aok: on everything and of course my prayers and thoughts are with you darling :hug99:!

Thanks for the info regarding the drug (Arimidex) that your DH is taking, would you mind giving me a little extra info such as manufacturer´s name, approx. cost per month´s use and what is the recommended dosage? I don´t even know if I´d find out here, but with those great results... I´d like to see about consulting our RE and seeing about adding it to my DH´s Maca intake.

Vyonne

Suzi~:banana: You go girl! :ura1:

Thanks Vyonne! I am kinda excited myself...excited and actually looking forward to being off this IVF roller-coaster one way or the other at the end of this cycle.

The drug Chris is taking is called Arimidex - it is a drug for breast cancer. It is used "off-label" to treat low testosterone levels so your DH must have low testosterone to take it. Here is a link to the drug info on WebMD: Arimidex (http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-4511-Arimidex+Oral.aspx?drugid=4511&drugname=Arimidex+Oral) Chris takes one 1mg tablet once per day. The manufacturer-sealed bottle containing 30 pills sells for $250, we are fortunate it is covered under our insurance and we only pay our co-pay (it is not considered a drug for IF, it is a drug used to treat breast cancer so it is covered under insurance).

Vyonne- Thanks so much for the words of encouragement!

Kim- Good luck with the u/s on Thursday. I hope that your lining is thick and sticky!!!!

Suzi- What great news!! I start my BCP tomorrow, so we'll be close in our cycles!

Now that I'm actually starting (it's taken me a year to get here) now I'm so afraid that they will find another cyst or something else that will cause them to cancel the cycle.

I've been considering acupuncture in conjunction with my IVF cycle. Has anyone tried it? The research that I have read says that it can raise your chances of pregnancy via IVF up to 62%. I'm willing to try anything!!!

Kristen

:heee: Awesome, Suzi! Lots and lots and lots of luck and prayers...


I am wondering, has anyone's husband had surgery called "varicocele repair". My husband had it and that is how we conceived my daughter Claire. He had extremely low count and v. poor mobility, essentially b/c of what were varicose veins in his testicles. (Niiiiiice, I know.) It certainly seemed to do the trick, in fact, my RE had wanted us to do that before we tried IVF, but I was convinced IVF would work FASTER. HA!!!!

Kristen-My friend did accupuncture w/ both of her successful IVFs. I wanted very much to do it with this one, but it all moved rather quickly and it's obviously too late. I do hear that it increases success rates. I believe one center near me actually has an accupuncturist on staff or as part of their referral program or something. My own dr. has an article about it on his web site, so I say GO FOR IT!! Can't hurt, right?

Kristen- I am doing acupuncture. I have read many places that it helps as well. It sure is expensive though. I pay $65 each time.

Rho- My DH has that as well. Luckily he is still potent enough that we didn't need the surgery. The RE thought that IUIs would be enough to overcome this problem.

Suzi, Thanks for the additional info on Arimidex. I will be talking to our RE tomorrow about it and see what he says :heee:
Still so excited for you :ura1: !!!

Now that I'm actually starting (it's taken me a year to get here) now I'm so afraid that they will find another cyst or something else that will cause them to cancel the cycle. Kristen

Kristen, I know it is difficult not to worry about all kinds of issues when we are doing a cycle, but try to stay positive and know we all will be praying for your success. You´ll do great sweetie :hug99:!

Vyonne

Suzi!:rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah: :clap: :wow: :aok: :banana: :jump: :woo: Awesome news! Big huge baby dust prayers your way!!!!!!

Rho-My DH got ruled out as a candidate for the varicole surgery for blockages, but its supposed to have a great effect if blockages are the only problem. I hope either way you end up BFP soon!!!

OK I let my mom watch me give myself a "Love Bite" (I too would rather not think I'm crazy V) and she asks me are you supposed to go that slow? I started to laugh and I told her that I prefer to do it slow as I would rather not "F" it up and have to do it again. I dont htink she thought I was funny, and she looked pretty green! Wow only 98 more to go! Maybe a bit less as I'm patch and supposit instead of POI shots!

Suzi - I am beyond happy for you!!!! That is such exciting news!!!! Crossing everything and saying prayers that you get your BFP this cycle!!!!
Kristen - I did acupuncture with my IVF cycle and can't say enough good things about it!
Rho - Varicose veins is the most common *treatable* cause of male infertility. It's very common for men to have varicose veins "down there." The confusing issue is that some men have normal sperm even with large varicose veins so it's not totally clear who needs to have surgery and who doesn't.
Andrea - The shots just suck (although I will say the PIO is the hardest so be glad that you're skipping that step!) but you'll make it through.
Vyonne - Still thinking of you! You are so sweet. Jessica is doing GREAT! She's such a joy to have and Nathaniel is a wonderful big brother. Thanks for asking about her!

Amanda

Vyonne-Thanks so much for your kind words of support. I feel blessed to have found this website and all of you!!:grouphugg

Amanda, Kerri and Rho- Thanks for the info on acupuncture. I'm going to make an appt. today!

Andrea- I hope the shots get easier. I'm really not looking forward to giving myself shots. I get a little squeamish when my dad pricks his finger to test his blood sugar!!!! :heee:


So, my DH went in for another SA and his motility came back below normal. They recommended ICSI. Does anyone have any experience with ICSI? They assured us that they only need a few "good" swimmers and they say he has millions of them. If it's not one thing, it's another!!

So, my DH went in for another SA and his motility came back below normal. They recommended ICSI. Does anyone have any experience with ICSI? They assured us that they only need a few "good" swimmers and they say he has millions of them. If it's not one thing, it's another!!
Kristen, Don´t even worry about an ICSI vs IVF, it is pretty much the same thing as far as your chances for success go. With the only difference that for ICSI they "manually" fertilize the egg with the male sperm, and with IVF it is a "more natural" procedure because the fertilizacion takes place on its own :nod:. Also, when they do ICSI, since they are done manually, you don´t stand chances at having "some stubborn" sperms not doing what they are supposed to do... because they inseminate all the available eggs and they stand the same chances to make it as with IVF. When the sperm condition or quality is low, they are more inclined to do it this way to not take any chances of the sperms not making it into the eggs on their own... that´s all. Remember that they only need 1 good sperm per egg :aok:. Think of ISCI as a sense of security :hug1:

Amanda, Thank you sweetie! I just feel a special "bond" about baby Jessica since we all, at one time had our undivided attention on her develpment and we prayed so much for her well being. It genuinly fills me with happiness to know that she is a part of our world and lucky to have a family like yours. I have no doubts Nathaniel (abosolutely adore that name) is and will be a terrific big brother for her. Kisses to both of them :bighug:!!!

Andrea, You are too funny :lol2: I could just see your mom´s face when she heard your comment! Glad to hear that you don´t consider yourself crazy either :awink: And the count back continues... :bighug:

Vyonne

HI All

Just a quick drive by. My beta came in at 131 yesterday! Which after some research it says I am on the high side of normal for that day. So that was wonderful news. I go for my second beta tomorrow. M/S has hit. I was pretty much quesy all afternoon. By all means I am not complaining

Vyonne~ Glad to see your spirits are doing well. Thank you for your prayers and I promise to pray you through to a BFP and beyond!!

Kristen~ I say go fo the acupuncture! All the info and results point to a more successful cycle. If I didnt get pg this time, I told myself I wold bite the bullet and do the acupuncture.

Suzi! That is fabulous news!! Not too much longer now and you will by actively cycling. I am so glad you are finally able to do this. I agree to to stick to the protocol that best worked.

Kimberly~ Yes all the shots, pain and frustration was well worth it. I am so happy!! You are on your way also!!

Andrea~ Just saw your ticker! 27 days will be here soon! Good luck sweetie!

Well this is certainly going to be a busy place with a lot of good news. I can feel it!!
It is so hard to keep track of everyone and where everyone is in their cycle, so please forgive me if I miss anyone.

Angela- I'm so happy that your numbers are high and YAY for the MS!!!! Take good care of yourself!! :ura1:

Rho- Good luck with your transfer!!

I just got back from my appt. with my RE and I start bcp today, have my baseline u/s and bloodwork on 3/22, retrieval on 4/4 and transfer on 4/7 (if all goes as planned!!). I can't believe that I'm finally doing this! I also made an appt for acupuncture. I'm going tomorrow. I'm not sure what to expect, but really very excited!

Kristen-Awesome news!!!! Your not far away either!!!:ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1:

Angela-So great your numbers are up there! May your next 38 weeks be filled with a wonderful healthy pregnancy! Sorry about the M/S but I'll pray that it goes away soon so you can enjoy the wonderful changes in your body.

Angela- When I said YAY for the MS I meant that's a good sign, not that I'm happy that you're feeling bad! When I re-read my message it sounded weird!

Ang, I am so happy to hear the great news on your beta results... it is awesome :thumbsup: Take good care of yourself and your little peanut... or is it peanutSSSS :supergrin ?
It is also very sweet of you to keep on praying for me :hug1:. And you are right, I am in good spirits, because it is good for the soul, and as long as there is hope... there is life! I am going to do everything in my power with the aid of science to help my endo recoup fast, and take one more chance at this arduous road hoping for better results :nod:

Kristen, Praying for everything from start to end, to be total success for you :hug1: and that BCP doesn´t get you too sick! Also, hope your worries about ICSI have vanished by now!

Suzi, Thanks again for the info on Arimidex, after reviewing it with my RE yesterday, I was pleased to hear that it is commercialized out here and that DH would be a good candidate, so he may get started on it as soon as next week! On another tiken, after my endo surgery next week, if all goes as planned... we could be cycling together :hug99:

Vyonne

Kristen~I've been doing acupuncture for about 2 years now. I took a break while waiting for all my donor craziness to go through. Anyway, I've restarted the acupuncture and I highly recommend it. I haven't had a pregnancy to term. . .yet!. . .but I know that doing the acupuncture has helped with other issues around infertility. . .it's helped me to relax, lessened the side effects of the medications, my pulse is better, etc. Anyway, I've never seen documentation that reports anything other than higher pregnancy success rates with acupuncture. The IVF clinic I go to finally got on the band wagon and now has an in-house acupuncturist. You're on your way! :yippee: Good luck through the whole trip. :crossfing It's alway nice getting going. . . .:nod:

Angela~You must be in 7th heaven :bighug: That is, when you're not feeling yucky.

Vyonne~It sounds like things are moving right along. How awesome! :thumbsup:

All went well with my U/S this morning. After 7 days of being on the estrogen, they like to see a lining of at least 6mm. Mine was just under at 5.8. So instead of taking 2 estrace per day, I'll be taking 3. As I said I would, I used the opportunity to drill them about other things: so even though I'm a little under right now, they say they're not worried at all. The U/S this morning still showed that my lining is clean ( no scarring, lesions, polyps, etc), and I was also told that my lining had those spongy layers that they're looking for. I go back in on Monday for another U/S. My donor starts her meds on Sat 3/4, so we're looking at a retreival for her probably no later than 3/17 and a transfer for me sometime the following week. In the meantime, it's all about the lining. I'll be taking more estrogen, I'm continuing the acupuncture, and I'm taking a baby aspirin each day. Anything else I could be doing to help this along. :scratch:

Kim

As I said I would, I used the opportunity to drill them about other things: so even though I'm a little under right now, they say they're not worried at all.

ATTA GIRL!!!! It sounds to me like your whole demeanor has changed when you talk to your docs! :aok: I am so glad that you are questioning things - it keeps 'em on their toes! :nod: Beyond that...WOW!! :wow: You are talking about transfer in just two weeks...I am BESIDE myself with excitement for you, Kim!!

Suzi, Thanks again for the info on Arimidex, after reviewing it with my RE yesterday, I was pleased to hear that it is commercialized out here and that DH would be a good candidate, so he may get started on it as soon as next week! On another tiken, after my endo surgery next week, if all goes as planned... we could be cycling together :hug99:


Wow, I am so glad it is a good fit for your DH!! Now if he does take it, you will have to watch for the side effects - Chris has experienced joint pain as a s/e of this drug. The pain is not that bad in and of itself, but that it is constant and has gone on for this long is what really weighs on him. The urologist suggested taking 800mg motrin (prescription strength) 2-3 times per day but Chris said it didn't help enough to justify taking it. Also, for maximum results, your DH will have to be on it for at least 2-3 months. We had an appointment today with the urologist and he said we could still see some appreciable gains but that we may not (Chris has been on it for 3 months now)...

And further....WOW that we could cycle together!! I am excited to get this cycle going - more than just taking the BCP. I *THINK* that I go for down-reg u/s around the 13th of April and if so, that puts me around an April 25 retrieval. :eek: Just 6-7 weeks away!! :yippee:

Kim, Your linning is doing wonderfuly :ura1: ... I am so happy for you!!! I am sure that you will achieve the right size and quality with no problem at all. Oh, and those "spongy layers" are excellent hon :thumbsup: Keep it up!!!
Knowing so much about acupuncturism, do you know if there is such a thing as an Association or Society for them :dunno:???

Suzi, Thanks again sweetie! Knowing my DH... he´ll take the Motrin, as he has very low tolerance for pain. It is a good thing I am the one having to go through the worst part doing these treatments :lol:, or else he would have never made it! If all goes as planned, he´d be on it for 2 months... hope it at least adds a few additional swimmers

I am so happy to hear that you even have your dates down already... that is simply marvelous :yippee:!!! I bet you are so glad to have something to look forward to... my thoughts and prayers are with you!!! Now I think you may be just a couple of weeks ahead of me... but very happy still

Vyonne

Okay, I got a correction. The down-reg u'/s is scheduled for April 21 which puts retrieval on May 4 and transfer on May 7...beta will be May 17. That is only one week off of the dates I had with Julia so if this works, I will have two (or three) babies with birthdays all together...I should be so lucky!! :crossfing

Suzi, Thanks again sweetie! Knowing my DH... he´ll take the Motrin, as he has very low tolerance for pain. It is a good thing I am the one having to go through the worst part doing these treatments :lol:, or else he would have never made it! If all goes as planned, he´d be on it for 2 months... hope it at least adds a few additional swimmers

Oh believe me...Chris is a WIMP when it comes to illness/pain!! If it were up to Chris to have to do anything for IVF, we'd have been S-O-L, if you know what I mean! What a wuss he is!! :rolleyes: :lol2:

Kim- I'm so happy to hear that your lining is where it should be! That's great news! Keep up the good work!

Vyonne- What great news that you will be cycling again so soon! Thanks so much for the info on ICSI. I'm feeling pretty positive about it. At least I know if my eggs can be fertilized they will be!!

I went for my first session of acupuncture today. I really liked it and have another appt. for Saturday. Started my bcps last night and had a big wave of nausea on the way to work this morning!

Okay, I got a correction. The down-reg u'/s is scheduled for April 21 which puts retrieval on May 4 and transfer on May 7...beta will be May 17. That is only one week off of the dates I had with Julia so if this works, I will have two (or three) babies with birthdays all together...I should be so lucky!! :crossfing
Suzi, I am soooooooooooooo excited for you :clap: and I wish you all the LUCK :crossfing you need to have those babies share birthdays!!! We are married to WIMPS... but how we love them :rotflmao:!!!
Vyonne

My 2nd beta was 234, they should be around 260-265 for them to be an exact doubling from Tuesday. Deb wasn't concerned but of course I started with the questions and nervousness. She said I have to go back for bloodwork next thursday to see how my beta levels are rising. I asked her if maybe it was because I had a high beta to start off with. She said yes so that's why she wasn't too concerned. So that made me feel better. I also have researched and I am in the norm for 16dp. I asked if i could go back sat for anothe beta and she wouldn't let me. I also saw on the wonderful internet that HCG levels should double between 48 - 72 hours and I figured I was 57.4 hours. So I guess I am still good. I just need the reassurance. I know it is still very early. I am also pretty sure there is only one bean in here! Suzi or anyone any thought on this??

Suzi~~ Great news! I am so excited for you. May will be here before you know it!

Hi everyone. There is such a positive vibe here....glad to see everyone is getting good news, of one kind or another. Looks like lots of transfers coming up... BEST STICKY WISHES TO ALL

My 2nd beta was 234, they should be around 260-265 for them to be an exact doubling from Tuesday. Deb wasn't concerned but of course I started with the questions and nervousness. She said I have to go back for bloodwork next thursday to see how my beta levels are rising. I asked her if maybe it was because I had a high beta to start off with. She said yes so that's why she wasn't too concerned. So that made me feel better. I also have researched and I am in the norm for 16dp. I asked if i could go back sat for anothe beta and she wouldn't let me. I also saw on the wonderful internet that HCG levels should double between 48 - 72 hours and I figured I was 57.4 hours. So I guess I am still good. I just need the reassurance. I know it is still very early. I am also pretty sure there is only one bean in here! Suzi or anyone any thought on this??

Suzi~~ Great news! I am so excited for you. May will be here before you know it!

:bullhorn: STOP THE INSANITY!!! Put down the mouse and step away from the computer!! Your hCG is doubling well within range (normal being every 48 to 72 hours - which you ALREADY KNOW) so you can stop worrying about not doubling every 48 hours! :nono: The best thing you can do for that baby is eliminate the stress and revel in all your m/s :puke: :lol:

I am also pretty sure there is only one bean in here! Suzi or anyone any thought on this??

I had twins with Julia and my first beta was 150 (at 11dp3dt) and my second was 383 (at 13dp3dt). I'd say you are likely safe that it is one...

Knowing so much about acupuncturism, do you know if there is such a thing as an Association or Society for them :dunno:???


Vyonne~ I don't know if I know a lot about acupuncture per se. . .but yes, there are acupuncture societies and groups all over the place. There is a plaque in my acupuncturist's offfice that says something like, "Association of Boston Acupuncturists". Anyway, query it on the internet and you're likely to come up with a bunch of websites. I know there is also an acupuncture related publication. (There is always one in my acupuncturist's office).

Angela~Suzi is right. Everything is as fine as it could be at this moment with your. . . . PREGNANCY. :yippee: :rahrah: Just ride the wave and enjoy. Ooops! I shouldn't talk to you about you riding waves right now. . .:puke:
I'm just playing with you. :awink: I'm so happy for you! You deserve to enjoy yourself now. :bighug:

Kim

Kristen, So glad to hear you are feeling pretty positive (about ICSI), have started your BCP and acupuncture... you are on your way girl :ura1: . Best of luck on your progress hon :hug99:!!!

Ang, Your levels are PERFECT for your pg time :aok:... so stop worrying and start to enjoy the beauty of motherhood :knitting: You are doing wonderfuly sweetie :hug99:!!!

Kim, Thank you for the tips :awink:. I think I am going to contact an association in the USA to see if they have knowledge of anyone out here that specializes in fertility acupuncture, because I have contacted 3 centers already, and they all have told me they do not do it specifically to aid in fertility :rolleyes:. So they would not know what points to trigger :scratch:

Vyonne

I have contacted 3 centers already, and they all have told me they do not do it specifically to aid in fertility :rolleyes:. So they would not know what points to trigger :scratch:

That's so peculiar because specializing in acupuncture for fertility is all the rage over here. I mean, the fact is, there are so many women (and men) who wouldn't even know about acupuncture if it wasn't for their unfortunate circumstance of infertility. I actually have a book which illustrates the trigger points that should be used when using acupuncture with fertility treatments. :scratch: I'll try to get the name when I get home this evening.

Kim

Kim, Thank you so much for your good intentions to help, but the more I think, the less I think I would trust an acupuncturist out here :noqueno: to treat my infertility if they haven´t dealt specifically with those issues... I´d be afraid to simply waste my time, my money and my expectations :disbelief

Vyonne

Kim, Thank you so much for your good intentions to help, but the more I think, the less I think I would trust an acupuncturist out here :noqueno: to treat my infertility if they haven´t dealt specifically with those issues... I´d be afraid to simply waste my time, my money and my expectations :disbelief

Vyonne

Good point. I hope you have luck finding someone.

Kim

Wow - lots going on here - see what happens when you step away for a day or two I am going to have to get a lap top.

Ang- That is the best news! Your numbers are fine.

Rho - I might have missed it - did you have your transfer?

Kristen - We did ICSI with both IVF's I had nice to here you have started your BCP and acupuncture... Looks like you are doing all the right!!

Suzi -Your advice to everyone is so helpful. I am so happy that you are starting your cycle - sending lots and lots of baby dust your way!!

Ladies - I am interested in acupunture - how do I find one that specializes in fertility and I am not sure insurance covers this so what is the price for a session - that is if nobody minds telling me and also when should it be started? Same time or before cycle?

I used acupuncture for my IVF. I looked in our local paper and called a few people to ask if they had any experience treating IF. The first guy I called told me he had no experience with it but gave me a few names. The 2nd woman I called had alot of IF experience and she and I just clicked. My insurance did NOT cover it and I think it was like $70 or $80 per session (it's been a few years so I don't remember but I could look it up). I live in the suburbs of NYC so everything is more expensive here!!! I was already cycling when I started and she wou;d have prefrred to see me earlier.

Amanda

Dawnie- I actually called my RE for a referral and I got a couple of names. I think that's the best place to start.

Dawn, asking nurses at your center is probably as good place to start - they talk to other patients who may be using acupuncture. The guy I talked to would like to start 3-4 months prior to a cycle but he said he can certainly work with just 2 months before. Per session costs are around $60. Good luck!

Dawn--Thanks for asking!! I had my transfer on Wednesday 3/1. I had four frozen embryos and three thawed and one did thaw but didn't look good so we didn't use it at doc's recommendation. I did the tubal transfer w/ laparoscopy. We'll know next week. I'm very, very anxious. Hoping for BFP...

Sorry...I never did accupuncture w/ any of my ivfs. My friend did, and got pregnant. But then again, I didn't, and I got pregnant. hmmmmm I meant to try it this time around but transfer day came so fast I just never did get started.

Anyone know how soon a HPT would give fairly accurate results? Blood test is scheduled for Mon 3/13. I know you're not supposed to do them (at least my doc doesn't recommend it) but I can't stand it!!!!! AF is due on Sunday.

Rho, you can probably do HPT at about 13 days past ovulation for pretty accurate results. So based on whether your embies were frozen at 3 days or 5 days (forgive me, I don't remember), you could test as early as 3 days from now!! :crossfing for you!!! Please keep us posted!

Rho- I'm keeping everything crossed for a BFP!!!

My acupuncturist has told me to stay away from sugar, but I have such a sweet tooth. I don't use saccharine or Nutrasweet, but I have used Splenda in the past. Do you think it's OK to use Splenda every once in a while?

Thanks, guys!

Kristen, I don't know about the splenda thing. Why no sugar? Does s/he think it has something to do with conception or is it for your overall health? Just curious.

Rho, I have severe endometriosis and I guess sugar, caffeine and dairy make it worse. I've had surgery on been on 6 months of Lupron Depot, so my endo is at bay for now. But I'm sure that it be back with a vengeance soon!

Kristen

Rho~I've got my fingers crossed. :crossfing

Kristen~I'm certainly no Dr, but maybe you could deal with your sweet tooth by substituting with natural sugars. . .like fruit juices. So like instead of a brownie, soda, or candy, etc. you could get yourself something fun like a fruit smoothy. O.K. I know it's not as much fun as creme brulee or nice big fat piece of chocolate cake, but maybe it'll help with the cravings.
:dunno: Maybe a tablespoon of honey every day? I guess it would be good to ask your Dr. if he means processed sugars and if there are any substitutes that are still sweet (and remember that it's only temporary) but won't make your endrometriosis worse.

I had my 2nd U/S yesterday and things are AOK :thumbsup: My lining is at 7.7 right now. Ultimately it should be at least 8mm for transfer I think. My donor has her first U/S for this cycle on Friday so they'll also call me and let me know her results. I'm still trying to take it day by day and hope for the best.

Kim

Kim, it seems surreal that you are actually on your way! :wow: I am very excited for you and you are on my mind all the time, hoping that this cycle works for you! :crossfing

Hi everyone

Sorry I haven't been as active here! I am so tired. I come home from work and just crash.

Things are going well. Sore boobs and the quesyness are here so that's a good sign. Cramping comes and goes. I am 5 weeks today!! I go for my third beta on Thursday so please pray for nice high numbers for me.

Kim~ I am so happy that things are moving forward for you! I have nothing but good thoughts that you and many others here will join me soon!

Suzi~ Your next! Your time will be here soon! I am glad that you have had good news regarding DH'S boys!

Kristen, You probably remember that for a while I was on my "healthy diet" where I had suspended ALL SUGARS, and for me that was the hardset part as well. However, I started to eat more fruits and like Kim says... making fruit smoothies became my favorite sport :nod:. I´d make them quite thick so it was almost like eating ice cream. Another big advantage is that it will definitely make things easier for loosing weight :scale:... so look at it from the good side! Splenda is a good alternative when you GOTTA HAVE IT, it is a natural product, but just don´t get carried away with it. In the 2 months that I did my diet, I only used it twice and it was with an iced decaf capuccino... and it was yummy!!! I am sure you´ll do great and your cycle will continue in the right path :hug99:

Kim, Oh sweetie! I am so thrilled for you :ura1: . Each day you are getting closer and closer to the BIG DAY :woo:. Sounds like things are simply working out marvelous for you. So happy to hear your linning is reponding so well :hi5:. Tomorrow I go for my laparoscopy, so I hope that after that I can be on my way as well. Somehow my patience is running thin :pullhair: and I need to know that after this intervention I can start full motor ASAP! My thoughts and :pray:s are with you all the way :bighug:!

Ang, Its great to hear your updates :yippee:!!! Happy 5th week :akiss: ! I will be praying for your high numbers to roll :crossfing on Thursday :hug99:

Rho, My :pray:s are with you for a big BFP next week!

Vyonne







:noqueno: :nod: :aok: :rolleyes:

Vyonne, you are in my prayers for tomorrow! :pray:

I just have to say how wonderful of a support all of you are. :grouphugg

Suzi~Thank you so much for routing for me. It is surreal. I totally agree. In part, I haven't felt that it is real either. I guess I'm still trying to protect myself somewhat. But as I've said several times, all I can do is take it day by day, stay positive, and hope that things continue on smoothly.

Ang~Get as much sleep as you need and enjoy the tine to do it. :bighug: Thank you for routeing for me.

Vyonne~ I wish you all the best with your laparoscopy. :pray: Hopefully, this will be the trick to lead you onto your pregnancy. :yippee:

Kim

Kim- Thanks so much for your tips on how to overcome sugar depravation! I'm so excited for you, you're definitely on your way!! I can't wait to hear how your donor is is progressing!

Rho-My prayers are with you for a BFP!!

Angela- I can't believe that you're already in your 5th week!! I'm sorry that you're not feeling well, be extra good to yourself and hopefully the nausea will subside soon!

Vyonne- Good luck with your laparoscopy today! Just think, after this hurdle, you'll be on your way again!! Thanks so much for the tips about the sugar. I have already lost three lbs. since abstaining!! :ura1:

I finished my first week of bcp, the only real side effect that I've had is I'm not sleeping well. I don't know if it's from the pill or DH's loud snoring!

Vyonne, I am thinking of you!

I forgot to say...I saw a chiropractor today for an adjustment and I will be starting acupuncture next week, twice a week for the cycle. YIPPEE!!! :yippee:

Suzi-That's great!! Have you had acupuncture before? I'm really enjoying it. At my last appt. she put these electodes on the needles in my back that pulsed electricity into me!

Hi all. Only time for a quick note. I did a HPT this a.m. (1st response early detection), it is 2 days before my period is due. It was negative. I was not all that surprised but still very disappointed. I think the chances of a +++ are slim at this point. I went into this being very grateful for the two little girls I do have, so I am trying very hard to keep it all in perspective. Still, I've been holding onto those 4 little frozen guys for so long, I am having a hard time knowing that they're gone now. Well I don't know quite how to explain that but I am sad for the (apparent) loss. And as you know, IVF is so hard on you mentally and physically, that a negative is more than just depressing/sad/disappointing. It's like a slap in the face. I am still sore from the laparoscopy and now I just feel like a guinea pig. If anything more develops, I'll be sure to let you know.

I am rooting for all of you for positive results!!! I don't in any way think my case is hopeless, as I do not think anyone else's case is, either. Things do eventually work themselves out in life, somehow. I am sure of that. My fingers are crossed for all of you!

Rho, I am very sorry. I will be sending good thoughts your way. :hug99:

Rho-I'm so sorry! :tear:

Vyonne - I hope your procedure went will - I have been saying many prayers for you.

Rho- I am sorry.


Dawn

Vyonne- I've been sending healing thoughts your way. I hope the lap went well and you're on the mend!!

Vyonne~ Waiting to hear how you are? I know you are probably sore and tired from today, so please update when you can.

Rho~ I am so sorry, sweetie.

Suzi~ I think the acupuncture is an excellent move! I totally would have done the same if I could have. Next baby I will most likely do it. So are you the next one up to cycle or am I forgetting someone??

3rd Beta today came in at 4,107, that's 20dp3dt. So I am happy and relieved. U/S is scheduled for 3/21 at 10 am. Now I just need HBV's!!

Angela, I LOVE seeing the ticker!!! :aok:

Ang- LOVE the ticker!!!

Ang- That is great - I am so happy for you - :hb: !!

Kris - I do not know about anyone else but Splendor gave me a big headache! I do not think I could go totally sugar free - I can go without caffine - more power to you if you can.:flower:

Vyonne Hope your lap went well and that you recover quickly:hug99:


We have been packing up our offices to move to a new floor - I am just about finished and will be leaving for the day - Have a beautiful weekend everyone.

Thanks Suzi, Kristen and Dawn! I still can't believe that ticker is for me!!

Have a wonderful weekend everyone! I am trying to get DH to take me away for the weekend because I have monday off. I feel like I need to get away I feel so burned out, mostly from work.

Hi everyone.

Vyonne, I hope your endo surgery went ok and you are good to go for your next ivf cycle.

Angela, what wonderful, wonderful news. So glad everything is looking good. You should hear a heartbeat at your next u/s, right? Or maybe you only see the sac at that point. Can't remember anymore! Enjoy!!!!

Thinking of you all and hoping that everything goes your way this time around.

Hoping to get started on 'baby making' later on this month. Not sure what to expect. I'd like a semen analysis on DH...does anyone know if varicoceles can redevelop?

OK well time to get dresses. As luck would have it, I have to go to a baby shower today! I'm so happy for her, though. She is another IVF success story. Timing just stinks, is all! :)

Hello to all my wonderful virtual family! and thank you so much for your healing thoughts and prayers (This is all much easier with all your support) :grouphugg
Well, the procedure was extremely painful and doctors (were 2) found more that they wanted :disbelief... one problem in the uterous canal itself, which they fixed right then in there, and the horrible scarring tissue around the endo :angry2:, which they will remove on a second a procedure on Tuesday the 14th.

The great news is that both doctors felt that after Tuesday, I just have to wait for my next AF and then I am ready to go with my next IVF/ICSI which would probably be around the end of April or begining of May :ura1:
It seems like a forever wait... but I am grateful :pray: for YET ANOTHER CHANCE!!!
Right now I feel much better, but for a couple of days I was totally bloated, with bad cramps and some bleeding. I am on antibiotics and some vaginal suppositories (yikes)... and just when I am totally recoved, will be time for my next procedure called retro something (I was too out of it when my doc mentioned what he´d do next).

Rho, I am so very sorry to hear about your results :sadhug: . Hope that you´ll start to feel better very soon...

Ang, Wonderful, wonderful news :yippee: I am absolutely thrilled!!! Let us know where DH ended up taking you away and enjoy :hug99:!!!

Kim, Your time is getting so close... my thoughts and prayers are with you:hug99:!

Kristen, Keep it up sweetie... you are doing great and on your way too! My thoughts and prayers are with you :hug99:!

Love you all,

Vyonne

I'd like a semen analysis on DH...does anyone know if varicoceles can redevelop?

ABSOLUTELY!

Vyonne, I am so glad to get an update from you! Happy that things went well, sorry it was so painful! And wow...you'll be cycling at about the same time as me!! :yippee:

Darn pc, just lost my post :angry2:

Anyway, thinking many positive thoughts for us all!!

rho, I hope all went ok today http://baby.ourlittleuniverse.com/images/smilies/bighug.gif (http://baby.ourlittleuniverse.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=16#)

I've been struggling with my DSL so been lurking more so than posting.

We just got back from a week in the bahamas - a wonderful place to be! I am going in for an operative hysterescopy thursday. The RE said if all is ok with the biopsy which he expects it to be, I can start prep for the FET with my next AF which should be the following week! I am trying to be realistic yet optomistic about our cycle, with one embryo, it might take a few attempts but I want to give each one my all!!

Hi again, everyone. OK, perhaps this is only paranoia but...

I have been experiencing, since about three days post transfer, nausea, lower back pain, occasional dizziness, and sharp abdominal pain on my right side. The pain is worse when I bend or sit forward, or when I try to lay on that side.

I have taken two pregnancy tests, one Thurs and one Fri. Both negative. Period was due yesterday but I'm usually 28-30 days, so really it could come tomorrow. I have my usual breakout of zits that I get pre-AF so I am/was pretty much convinced AF was coming.

I have never had an ectopic pregnancy or a miscarriage. But according to the stuff I have read online about them, I do have some of the symptoms.

Obviously I would much rather be "not pregnant" than have an ectopic. Does anyone know if you can have a negative HPT but still have an ectopic pregnancy?

I have my blood test tomorrow, which I have been dreading. I know that will give us answers but I figured I'd run it by you guys in case anyone has experienced an ectopic.

Sorry for the long post....again. I am going craaaazy here b/c I was hoping to get a visit from old AF and be able to get down to business.

I'm not sure about the ectopic Rho but I am wondering if the HPT's are just not picking up your hcg because it is still too early? Are you doing progesterone supplementation? That can cause some of what you are feeling too. Its so frustrating!!! I wish I could give you something more conclusive but I would wait for the beta to confirm anything.

Rho - I can only echo what Judy has said. I am so sorry you are going throught this.

Suzi - I'm excited to see you will be cycling soon. Is this going to be your first experience with acu? You know I'm a huge advocate of it!

Vyonne - I'm very excited to see that you will be cycleing again soon too! I hope and pray your latest surgery is the answer to your prayers.

Angela - I can't see your ticker here, but I've seen it on 'the other side'. :ura1: !!!!!

I'm sure there are others I have missed, and I appologize. I haven't been on in awhile and I 've got some catching up.

Rho, no, it's not possible to be PG with an ectopic and get a BFN on an HPT. Now it IS possible that you are PG (ectopic OR normal) and your hCG level has not reached a high enough level to be detected by your HPT. I have known a few women who have been convinced their beta would be BFN because their HPTs were BFN...only to have a BFP beta. The beta test measures 5 mIU/ml and the most sensitive HPTs measure 25.

Of course, it is quite possible that you are not PG, rather with the symptoms you describe you have a cyst (that came to my mind first). If the pain persists, you should let your IVF nurse know.

So did your RE do the ZIFT/TET?? I am not overly familiar with that procedure so I am not sure if there could be something going on because of that?? :dunno: I'd say if you still feel the same tomorrow to call your IVF nurse or RE and let them know. Or even better, let them know when you go in for your beta. I'll be thinking of you, hoping you feel better!

Suzi & Dana, Thanks so much for sharing my happiness about my next cycling and appreciate your prayers and good wishes :bighug:! I feel blessed to have one more chance at this roller coaster. And I am quite excited to know I´ll be sharing my next cycle with you, suzi :hi5:

Rho, I am so sorry to hear that you are still experiencing anxiety and discomfort. I pray that tomorrow all your worries will subside! :hug99:

Vyonne

PS Can we make time go by faster??? I gues after all I´ve been through my patience is staring to run thin... :dunno:

Thanks girls. I did do the TET procedure. I asked if there was a higher risk of tubal he said no. Actually RE was more inclined to go the cervical transfer route; it was me who insisted on the TET b/c that's what we did with my daughter and that's what worked, after 4 unsuccessful cervicals. Totally superstitious. Anyway, I didn't even consider a cyst. When I go tomorrow a.m. I am going to explain everything and hopefully get some answers by the afternoon. It will be comforting to know either way. I'll let you know tomorrow!

Rho, I'll be thinking good thoughts for you!

Vyonne, seeing what great support you have offered others while cycling together, I am very excited to be cycling with you!! :yippee:

Hi to all! I have been mostly lurking lately, but have enjoyed following everyone.

Congrats to Angela!!!! That is so exciting!

Vyonne -- I'm glad to hear that your surgery went well (except for the pain part.) It looks like I will probably be cycling about the same time as you & Suzi. I have a doctor's appointment on Wednesday, but it looks like I will probably be starting stims mid to late April, with retrival about May 1 (I am totally guessing on that date!)

Suzi -- I think that I am also going to give accu a try. I really want to give this cycle the very best chance that I can to work. I also need to find accupuncturist. There doesn't seem to be one close to me that specializes in IF. I did go once to a place that's about 20 minutes from me, but I wasn't impressed with her knowledge of IF. (Even though I'd told her that I was doing IVF, she kept talking about things that were more applicable to IUI, almost like she didn't know the difference.)

I went in today for my day 3 FSH (which was good -- sigh of relief) & started getting stressed just being there. I realized that I need to have a bit of an attitude adjustment. I am feeling pretty negative about my chances of this working, which I know isn't helpful. When I had my last IVF, I really thought that I was pregnant, so it made the BFN so much more difficult. I think that I am trying to protect myself from another big letdown. Does anyone have any great suggestions for staying positive, while still being realistic? It seems like so many of you do such a great job being optomistic & I am just wondering how you do it?

Carla, glad to hear you will be cycling with me and Vyonne...the more the merrier!! I understand it's difficult to open yourself up the the possibilities after going through a BFN IVF...that's so tough. However, you now know what the pain is like and you also know that you lived through it. I think many women feel like I do...it never hurts as bad as it did the first time. FOr me, it helps to research and know everything I can possibly know on the subject...I have sifted through medical journals, web pages, conference notes, etc. taking in all the information so that I can be sure that I have left no stone unturned. All that knowledge helps me stay positive but keeps my feet tied to reality. In the long run, it (a BFP) has to happen for SOMEONE, why not me?

Even with all the science we have to use to get PG, ultimately all you can do is prepare yourself to be the best possible "home" for an embryo and let God take it from there. :nod:

Vyonne- So glad to hear you're recovering. Hopefully your next procedure is easier on you! I hope time flies for you so that you, Carla and Suzi can begin your cycles!

I'm still taking the BCP. I've been lucky not to have a lot of side effects. I think the acupuncture helps with that! I start my injections next week! I've been so positive and excited about doing IVF and this morning I woke up from a dream/nightmare that I did a pregnancy test and it was NEGATIVE. It felt so real I'm still reeling from it!!:tear:

Vyonne, seeing what great support you have offered others while cycling together, I am very excited to be cycling with you!! :yippee:
Suzi, You are so sweet to say that! Like you, I feel that cycling with you will be great because your support, knowledge, patience and great welcoming when I first landed here, is what made me stay... and I am so glad I did :kiss:!!! You all have become such a special part of my life... thank you!

Carla, Welcome to our (Suzi & mine) cycle!!! And Suzi is right: "The more the merrier". I understand your fears, but try to give a touch of positive feeling to your cycle. The human part of us, makes us want to protect ourself from disappointment, by not taking our hope too high... but know that we are all here to cheer you on your cycle and help you feel positive. In my particular case, I am always grateful for the opportunity God grants me... giving me another chance! Remember that if it doesn´t happen this time around, it only makes you stronger to try new things and get more advice for the next time! But lets start the preparation for our cycles POSITIVE and thinking all 3 of us will get a big BFP this time :hug99:

Kristen, Thank you hon, I sure hope that the next procedure tomorrow is less painful too and that it will be a sure success :pray:! I am willing to do anything to improve my chances this next time around :nod:
Glad to hear BCP is not too rough on you. And about your dream, it´s just that... a dream! So keep your positive attitude, as POSITIVE always helps :hug99: PS. Good luck with your shots next week!!!

Vyonne

I've been trying to post since Friday and I keep being distracted. . .by life! :crazy:

Rho~I was going to mention earlier that I've had 2 ectopics and I doubt you'd feel those type of pains so early into an ectopic pregnancy. It sounds like you'll get some answers anyway today. I hope you're feeling better. :bighug:

I am feeling pretty negative about my chances of this working, which I know isn't helpful. When I had my last IVF, I really thought that I was pregnant, so it made the BFN so much more difficult. I think that I am trying to protect myself from another big letdown. Does anyone have any great suggestions for staying positive, while still being realistic? It seems like so many of you do such a great job being optimistic & I am just wondering how you do it?

Carla~Oh my gosh, that sounds exactly like me on a daily basis. I too often start feeling negative prior to and during a cycle simply because, like you said, I just don't want to set myself up for yet another big let down. And as you can probably surmise, I feel like I've been let down way too many times! :angry2: My optimism comes and goes. When I get into a negative space, I try to do everything I can to get out of it. Sometimes it takes a few hours, sometimes a few days or even weeks! I try to remind myself of some of these things (these are the mantras that work for me, they may not be the same for you): Where I am right now is where I was meant to be. I've learned lessons in all my pain and I'll continue to learn. There are many brilliant women in this world who never had children. I am very lucky in many other things. I absolutely deserve to be pregnant and I know that other women have had it worse than me and gotten pregnant. If this doesn't work out, it doesn't mean my life, my marriage, or my health is ending. Being negative does me no good and may only bring negativity to the outcome. I've dealt with BFNs before and I've gotten through. So. . .there are a few of my thoughts that help me get back on track.

Kristen~I'm so glad you're liking the acupuncture. And isn't great that it WAS only a dream? :banana:

So, things have been moving fast! So quickly that I haven't been able to keep you up to date. My donor had her first U/S on Friday, then again on Sunday and one today. So, retrieval will happen on Wednesday and a I believe a transfer for me this Saturday. :ura1: I can't believe it myself. The last report I got (Sunday) was that the donor had 6 or 7 follies on the left and 8 or 9 on the right. :thumbsup:

After that "pep talk" to Carla, I have to stay positive now. Of course, having this good news helps.

Kim

So, things have been moving fast! So quickly that I haven't been able to keep you up to date. My donor had her first U/S on Friday, then again on Sunday and one today. So, retrieval will happen on Wednesday and a I believe a transfer for me this Saturday. :ura1: I can't believe it myself. The last report I got (Sunday) was that the donor had 6 or 7 follies on the left and 8 or 9 on the right. :thumbsup:

After that "pep talk" to Carla, I have to stay positive now. Of course, having this good news helps.

Kim

:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:

Kim, you are going to transfer in FIVE DAYS!!! :woa: I know you have to keep a low-key demeanor but just the same, I am ecstatic with joy for you!! EVERY good thought is coming your way, girl!!

Suzi, You are so sweet to say that! Like you, I feel that cycling with you will be great because your support, knowledge, patience and great welcoming when I first landed here, is what made me stay... and I am so glad I did :kiss:!!! You all have become such a special part of my life... thank you!

Wow...I am deeply honored. :akiss:

OHMYGOSH Kim!!! I can't believe its finally here! Love and prayers being sent your way!

I am happy to report I finally have news on my end. We have found a donor. The nurses say that she is a great match for me. And we are very happy with her profile. She has never donated before. By the time the tests are complete and we are in sync it will be late may or June . And I'm ok with that.

Except for one thing...we've planned a vacation to Orlando for the middle of June. I think we should cancel the trip. Dave thinks we should delay the cycle. :dunno: Dave and I need to discuss this more.

Suzi, :bighug:

Kim, What great news!!! Just what I need before my surgery tomorrow :redflower Oh sweetie, I am simply thrilled with your donor´s results :rahrah: :clap: :rahrah: I wish you all the best for your transfer on Saturday, my thoughts and prayers are with you all the way!!! :wow: Still seems unreal after the long wait, huh??? Gosh, I am sooooooooooooooooo excited... I can´t stop writing :supergrin! STICKY, STICKY STICKY thoughts your way babe :hug99:

Dana, Terrific news, I am so very happy for you !! The hardest part is over with :ura1: I am sure that you´ll be in sync in no time... and you too will be one more on the wagon :hi5:. As for your vacation plans... :dunno: but if it were me... I´d do the cycle first, after all, Orlando will always be there! Great thoughts your way for great test results :hug99:

Vyonne

Carla - I probably tend to be more optomistic in general but this is just something that is tough to stay positive about and it is I think in our nature to try to protect ourselves. I think that my reasoning for forcing myself to stay as positive as I can is to realize that the emotions you feel when your cycle is not sucessful, just isn't something you can prepare yourself for. If it fails you will be crushed, whether or not you 'expected' it. I don't personally believe it hurts any less. So my best positive thoughts for you!!

Kim - wonderful news!!! Saturday!! WOW!!

:ura1:

Vyonne - I'll be thinking about you tomorrow and hoping all goes very smoothly for you!!

Dana - Very excited about your news - tough call on the vacation, I'm with you, I'd rather cycle. Would you all maybe be able to move the vacation up to May? I've been in Disney the week before memorial day (leaving Sat) and it was wonderful in terms of crowds and weather Definitely as it creeped toward the weekend though it was getting quite busy.

I feel so positive about this thread now!!!

Kim -- Thanks for the "pep talk!" Congrats on how well everything is going. I can't believe you've finally made it to this point. Lots of sticky thoughts going your way the next couple of weeks.

Judy, Vyonne, Suzi -- Thanks for your thoughts & insights. There is so much truth in everything that's been said. I am actually feeling a lot better. Maybe I just needed to conciously realize how negative I was thinking before I could make a change. I just have to stay strong so that I can keep this positive, peaceful feeling. I know that I am doing everything that I can to make it work & them I just have to put it in God's hands.

Kim-Saturday!! Wow! I'm just thrilled for you! I'm keeping everything crossed for very, very stickie embies and that you'll be BFP#2 on this thread!!!!

Vyonne- I'm thinking about you today, hoping that your procedure is successful and painless!! Take good care of yourself!

Carla- I think it's natural to try to protect yourself. That's my first instinct, too. I just try to remind myself that worrying or obsessing isn't going to change the outcome. Sometimes that helps me and sometimes it doesn't. Not having control is so hard, so I'm just trying to make my body the best it can be to carry and nurture my baby. Whatever the outcome, I know I've tried my very hardest, and done the best I could do. I hope that you're feeling better soon!!!

Nothing new here, I have another week of BCP and then I start my injections. We're still shooting for 4/4 retrieval and 4/7 transfer!

Good luck Kim!! :)

Hello sweet girls! And thank you all for your good wishes and prayers for this hopefully "final" procedure!!!

I just got home and the surgery overall went well... with just a few uneventful events :disbelief The epidural shot was aweful and for the last part of the procedure (3 minutes or so) the effects ran out :owow:, but thank God it was towards the end, when RE was performing the last of the residue cleaning (still very uncomfortable)! My recovery part wasn´t so bad... not too much pain, but my blood pressure dropped down considerably and they had to stabilize me. I am still quite nauseus, but don´t understand why, as I had epidural and not general anesthetic :dunno: At least I know my RE did everything in his power to repair the previous damage! Now I just have to wait about 3 weeks for the first AF to show after the procedure. Next for the evaluation results, I wait for my April AF to see how my endo decides to behave :rolleyes: and if the growing is good and as expected... I´ll be on my way for hopefully my last IFV/ICSI :pray:

Vyonne

Vyonne - glad everything went ok - though that last bit of the epi wearing off - yikes! Been thinking about you. I hope the next few weeks pass uneventfully for you.

Kristen I'm excited you are getting close to injections!

Hi everyone. Well I got THE CALL yesterday. Unfortunately, I am not pregnant. :cry: I don't want to be a downer for anyone b/c these things happen and for my first daughter, it took five tries!

My IVF days are over for sure, even with full medical coverage it is too much on me emotionally/physically. If I was trying for my first or even my second, I would do 100 IVFs if I had to. But baby # 3, though very, very much wanted, will have to come by way of Mother Nature.

So my DH has an appt. on Sunday for a semen analysis, just to make sure all is well with the boys down there. And then I have the IVF follow-up appt. on Wednesday next week. I am looking forward to getting on with this.

I will continue to lurk and post b/c I want to know how everything is going with all of you, and hopefully someday I will have good news to share, too!

Kim, I couldn't believe it when I saw that you are doing your transfer THIS SATURDAY! AWESOME!!! :ura1: Your donor has so many follies...I hope they all fertilize and you have tons and tons and tons. All super-sticky, of course.
To everyone else.....:grouphugg :ylflower: Lots of happy sticky fertile thoughts going out to you and THANKS for all the support!

Vyonne...Wow that was some 'uneventful event' re. the epidural wearing off! ARRGGHHH! Glad you're doing ok. Goooooooooood luck!!!

rho..:hug99: so very sorry this cycle wasn't your BFP. Hope you and DH get great news on the boys!!

Vyonne- I think that you're being quite the trooper regarding the epi wearing off! That sounds VERY unpleasant to me! I'm so glad your surgery is behind you and now you can plan for your next and most successful cycle!!!! I hope your DH is pampering you like crazy!

Rho- I'm so sorry that your cycle resulted in a bfn:sad:! I think that your attitude is amazing! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that your DH's SA comes back fine and mother nature grants you your wish for another baby soon!!

Kim-I'm thinking about you and counting down the days until Saturday!!

Judy, Thank you sweetie, and I am glad everything went ok and is now behind!
Will you be cycling in April? If so, my thoughts and prayers are with you on this new FET road :hug99:

Rho, :sadhug: Although expected, it is never easy to accept a BFN, but as you say... you are blessed with two lovely daugthers and still have a chance at getting pg on your own. Have faith and I am sure that God and Mother Nature will give you a good surprise when you least expect it! I wish you lots of happiness with your little ones and DH :hug99: PS Good luck on his SA!!!

Kristen, Thanks darling! Like you, I hope for my upcoming cycle to be the Most Successful one :pray:! And yes... DH is being an absolute sweetheart :hb:

Kim, :bullhorn: Only 72 more hours :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: I am sooooooooooooooooooo excited for you!!! My :pray:s are with you all the way!!!

Vyonne

I just ordered my IVF meds and I have to admit that while I was giving them my credit card number my heart was beating out of my chest. Unfortunately, here in FL there is no mandate that insurance has to cover infertility. So we're paying for all of it out of pocket. I am very fiscally conservative, so spending this kind of money on something that isn't anywhere near a sure thing really stresses me. I know in the end it will be worth it by 100 times if I do have a baby, but I keep thinking how hard it's going to be for me to pay my bill every month if I get a bfn. Every month I'll be reminded...

I'm sure many of you have been through this, I just needed to vent!

Thanks for listening.

Gosh, thank you all so much for all your well wishes. :grouphugg It is quite unbelievable to me that this is all actually happening. . .finally. :woa: I think that's why I've been on the "down low". I mean, I think I've sort of been holding my breath hoping that things don't take a bad turn. I know however, that I can't focus on things going wrong and I have to focus on things going right! Well, that's what I've been doing--or really, trying hard to do. . .but I've been sort of silent and contemplative. That's O.K. A lot of thoughts going on in head right now. But it's all good. All part of this process.

Dana~:yippee: for finding a donor. . .and one who matches you so well! Speaking from a purely personal note regarding your vacation, I would hesitate to make any changes right away. (Or did you book your tix already?) You just never know what will happen. That's certainly NOT to suggest that anything bad will happen to cause delays, but perhaps things could move along sooner than you thought for example! :heee: Also, I had a short trip planned around the time I was supposed to start. The RN reassured me how easy it was to delay things by a week--you know, take BCP or lupron for a few more days and the donor would delay starting the stims by a few days, etc. Particularly if and when both you and your donor are in sync, you'll be able to adjust things to fit your schedules. Just my two cents.

Vyonne~I'm glad it's over with, but geez, the epidural ran out!?? :eek: Knowing my threshold for pain, I would have fainted. I hope your nausea is starting to come to an end.

Rho~I'm so sorry about the BFN, but it's nice to hear that you are in a "good place" about this. I can't tell you how many women I know who've had IVFs with their first and then got pregnant naturally with their second. Actually, Brooke Shields is pregnant again and I think it was a thankful "surprise" for her this time around. I wish you all the best. :bighug: P.S. The Infertility Cure by Randine Lewis is a great book if you wish to focus on increasing your fertility naturally.

DH went in this morning to produce his "sample" and I just got the phone call a few minutes ago telling me that they retrieved 12 good eggs from my donor. :ura1: I will get the fert results tomorrow as well as when they'll be doing the transfer. :pray: :crossfing

Kimberly

DH went in this morning to produce his "sample" and I just got the phone call a few minutes ago telling me that they retrieved 12 good eggs from my donor. :ura1: I will get the fert results tomorrow as well as when they'll be doing the transfer. :pray: :crossfing

Kimberly

:tear: I am so happy for you that made me cry! Kim, I am sending you EVERY good thought I have!

Kim, :woo: 12 good eggs???

That is awesome :rahrah: :clap: :rahrah: . There you go girl :ura1: On Saturday you´ll have plenty for transfer and plenty to go to the Antarctic :aok: Like Suzi, I have tears of joy for you! Sorry, but I am going to let out my feelings and say it... I have a gut feeling you´ll be our second BFP!!! Super STICKY thoughts your way :hug99:and tons of prayers!!!

Kristen, I know exactly what you mean :disbelief ... I never had the blessing to count on insurance to pay for any of my failed treatments (a few IUI and 6 IVF/ICSI). Run out of money and had to resort to loans, that I am still paying for :pullhair: . Chin up, and don´t stress over those thoughts, you will see how its all worth it and you´ll be announcing your BFP very soon!

All I can say is, if at the end of the road, I get my baby... I won´t care if I have to make loan payments for the rest of my life :supergrin... I will finally have my most wanted million dollar baby :suck:

Vyonne

Kim-That's GREAT!! 12 eggs!! I'm thrilled for you and am praying that you get the BFP and beautiful baby that you most definitely deserve!!! :ura1:

:ura1: Fantastic news Kim!! :)

:ura1: Kim~ Holy Moly Woman!! I can't believe your turn is here for you! I am so happy for you. Sending you all the baby dust I can!

Vyonne~ Glad to hear you are doing well and on your way to another IVF.

Dana~ Awesome news about a donor! Wishing you much success!

Rho~I am sorry about the BFN. I hope you got a wonderful suprise going au naturale!

We got a lot of cyclers coming up in here! There are gonna be a lot of babies born end of year/early next year. We will all have kids about the same age too, which is kinda cool!

Kristen and Vyonne...I hate that some people have insurance for ivf and some do not. It is terribly unfair. Do either of you participate in a 'shared risk' program? I've read about them and it seems if you do not get pregnant you do not pay full cost or the next cycle is free or something like that.

Kim...congrats!!! A dozen!!!

Kristen - I hope that the anxiety is for nothing and you will sonn be reporting a BFP saying every penny was worth it!! Shared risk if it is availible might help though the upfront cost is higher tough call!!

Kim wonderful news!!! :crossfing for an excellent fert report!!

Vyonne, looks like I am good to go for my FET in April. Assuming all goes well today, I can start estrogen with my next AF which I think will be tuesday and then transfer about 19 days later. So maybe a special easter egg for me? We're doing single embryo transfers so we only have about a 20% chance per cycle but I told myself that is what an average fertile couple has and look how many of them get knocked up first go round :updown:

Judy, I'm sending good thoughts your way for the upcoming FET!

We had a meeting with our RE yesterday and it was mostly non-eventul. I went in decided that I really want to start Heparin on CD6 of my IVF cycle (some protocols start CD6, others start day after retreival) but my RE convinced me to start day after retreival. I may challenge him (at every turn) but I do respect his medical opinion and I typically defer to him on the big stuff. Anyway, from our meeting we did decide to freeze three semen samples, just in case. That way we can thaw them and HOPEFULLY have those three samples (if needed) PLUS the fresh sample from which to select sperm the day of retrieval. It's really an insurance measure but with the odd things we've had happen with our specimens, we don't want to take any risks on our last cycle.

That's it for me - still waiting for AF to show...should be about another week or so and then we're OFF!! :yippee:

Judy-I'm sending thoughts and prayers your way for a successful FET.

Suzi-You're on your way, girl! :ura1:

I just received my IVF drugs and all the worries about money are gone. I'm just so excited that we're finally doing this. I have an appt. with my RE on Wednesday, and I'll get my calendar. I'm not sure which needle goes with each drug, but I almost passed out when I saw the size of the 18 gauge needle. :omg: I'm assuming that's for the progesterone in oil!! NOW I know what you girls have been talking about!!!

Kristen, YIPPEE for the drugs!! Don't worry about the needle for PIO (yes it is the biggest of all, except for mixing needles if you have them). There are tricks to the PIO injections - freezing the area with an icepack for about 2-3 minutes and then you don't feel the injection at all. Also, you want to warm the PIO bottle in your hand/bra for a few minutes before preparing the injection - that will make it more viscous and easier to pass through the needle and into the muscle.

PIO shots can be kinda uncomfortable but they are not THAT bad... I wish you the best of luck on your cycle, won't be long now! :eek:

Ang, Thank you sweetie... I can´t wait! And how are you feeling??? How´s the morning sickness coming along? I wish you all the best and I´m sure you are enjoying every bit of it :bighug:

Rho, Thanks for the advice on the Shared Risk program... however, at this point, its a bit late for me, after all the $$$$$$$$ we´ve spent... hopefully this time it will work and make it ALL WORTH IT :pray: I totally agree that it is not fair that ALL insurances accept IVF treatments :angry2:

Judy, Happy to hear that you´ll be ready to go FET in April :yippee: . As far as the single embryo transfers... you need to do whatever makes you feel good and safe, and if that means doing one at the time... that is exactly what you need to do. I wish you´ll get your Special Easter Egg :easteregg All the luck on your upcoming cycle :hug99:My thoughts and prayers are with you!

Suzi, What do you mean by starting Heparin on CD6? What is Heparin and what CD6 stands for? Sorry, I am not familiar with that stuff :dunno:
I am very excited that you are getting very close to your take off :ura1: Wish you all the very best :bighug: My thoughts and prayers are with you!

Kristen, So glad to hear your worries are all gone! You got your drugs kit and now you´ll be on your way! As far as the needles go... don´t worry and follow Suzi´s advice... it sure works! And after wards, have DH kiss it for you :kissit: that always makes everything feel better :lol2: I wish you all the luck for a successful cycle :hug99: My thoughts and prayers are with you!

Kim, My thoughts and :pray:s are with you on your fert results today :hug1:

Its so nice to see that we have so many cyclers... lets fill up our thread with tons of BFPs!!!

Vyonne

Rho, Thanks for the advice on the Shared Risk program... however, at this point, its a bit late for me, after all the $$$$$$$$ we´ve spent... hopefully this time it will work and make it ALL WORTH IT :pray: I totally agree that it is not fair that ALL insurances accept IVF treatments :angry2:
Vyonne

Oops! I meant to say: it is not fair that ALL insurances DO NOT accept IVF treatments :fado:

Suzi, What do you mean by starting Heparin on CD6? What is Heparin and what CD6 stands for? Sorry, I am not familiar with that stuff :dunno:
I am very excited that you are getting very close to your take off :ura1: Wish you all the very best :bighug: My thoughts and prayers are with you!

No need to apologize, I should've explained better! I have Antiphospholipid Syndrome (APS or Hughes Syndrome) and that is a clotting disorder. What happens is that an embryo implants in the uterus and starts creating a placenta but my blood throws clots and a clot in the placenta will kill the baby causing a m/c.

The way to fix APS is to administer heparin so I will be taking heparin shots every day, twice a day. There is some disagreement in the RE community as to when it is most effective to begin heparin therapy, some start CD6 (cycle day 6) and some start day after retrieval. If taking heparin starting CD6 there is substantial risk in excess bleeding from the retrieval. Of course I really don't believe that will be a problem - I NEVER bleed from retrieval and when I get blood draws, I never even need the cotton/bandaid. My RE is not comfortable with me starting heparin CD6 and even though I challenge him plenty, I still respect his opinion a great deal and so I defer to him on starting day after retreival.

I am getting excited about this cycle...I realized just today that AF will arrive in a little over a week and then it's time to get the ball rolling! :ura1:

Wow Kim!!! I'm so happy for you!!!! Saying lots of prayers and crossing everything for your BFP.
Vyonne - I'm sorry that you were in so much pain during the surgery. I hope this does the trick and you get that BFP soon!
Rho - I'm so sorry.
Suzi - Wow! Things are moving right along.
Kristen - Hooray for getting the meds! You'll do just fine with the needles, I swear!
Judy - I posted in your journal on BOLU but I wanted to mention here, too. This week's New England Journal of Medicine had an article about single embryo transfers for women under the age of 36. Basically the results were very, very good!

I'm sorry if I missed anyone. I hope this thread has lots of happy news!!!

Amanda

Suzi, Thanks for the explanation :nod:! And, I hope whatever the decision on the date to start Heparin... still brings you a big BFP :crossfing at the end. I am so happy things are moving right along :hug1:

Amanda, Thank you hon!!! :pray: From your lips to God´s ears :bighug:

Vyonne

Kristen~I am lucky because IVFs are covered in MA. . .and when I got a BFN (which have been too many) I can't imagine having the thought of the "wasted" expense added to my sadness. When I was told that my donor egg cycle would NOT be covered, I fought it in appeals throughout last summer. I won, and had I not won, I would not have been able to do this. I just hope that there will be some day very soon when IVFs will be covered nationwide. And if need be, you know that I will be I will be up for the fight to win that coverage for all women. I'm scared of the PIO too! I start my first one this evening. :crazy:

PIO shots can be kinda uncomfortable but they are not THAT bad

Suzi~Mmmmm. We'll see about that! :) I start my first PIO shot tonight. :eek:
Gosh Suzi, you are so smart and assertive about all your medical needs. I'm always so amazed and impressed at how well you can navigate yourself through all of this. I'm always wishing you all the best. . ..but you know that already. :awink:

So you all probably CAN believe this, but I was as anxious ridden today as I am on the day of a beta test. I shouldn't, but I talked myself into imagining the worse. :noqueno: But I got the call at about 3pm saying that 8 out of the 12 eggs fertilized. :clap: I think that's good. .right? I go in for the transfer on Saturday. . . .so. . . .so. . . .I'm staying positive. :pray:

Kim

Kim, I can absolutely imagine you were a wreck today...waiting for fert report I think will be the most torturous time for me this cycle! When you get BURNED with zero fertilization, the nervousness takes on a whole new dimension...

WOW, that's perfectly GOOD fertilization!! Just think...you have EIGHT little babies right now working so hard to GROW!!

You can do those PIOs no problem...it's old hat, no? :lol:

:ura1: How exciting Kim!! :crossfing for a bunch of sticky embies. :)

Rho - I am so very sorry. It is in the place where the most amazing women come your postive attitude is something that will help inspire the rest of us.


Vyonne - OHG!! can't beleive the epi ran out before your RE was done - what a trooper you are!!

Kim - :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: Most Excellent Fert Report!! Will be think of you this weekend and sending very very sticky thoughts your way!

Kristen - the needles can be a bit scary at first - when my DH does the progestone shot - it only pinches for a second (I swear) and then he massages the area afterwards. You must be so excited to be starting your cycle!

Suzi - I am glad so excited for you!!

Ang - How are you feeling honey?

I am so happy everyone is moving along - I can not wait to start my own cycle - you guys are really pysching me up to get everything going - but I am still straightening out my ins. difficulties. Once I clear that up I should be able to start - I am hoping for April or May.

Baby dust to all!!!

Wow...another April/May! It's going to be a BUSY springtime around here!!! :yippee:

Kim, I can absolutely imagine you were a wreck today...waiting for fert report I think will be the most torturous time for me this cycle! When you get BURNED with zero fertilization, the nervousness takes on a whole new dimension...

Suzi~That's right. . .I remember. I can only imagine your anxiety with the fert report. :( I guess in the end, with all of us, there are going to be some parts of the cycle that 'cause us more anxiety than others. It sure would be nice if we weren't going through this. :rolleyes:

Ma butt hurts! :owow: In all actuality, the PIO wasn't so bad going in. Thanks to Suzi, I prepared myself by iceing the area first and getting my heating pad ready for afterwards. Going in wasn't bad at all. DH massaged the area afterwards and then I laid on top of the heating pad for a while. So I'm assuming that I should switch sides for every other shot?? Or is it better to be limping on just one side of my body? :awink: I definitely have a "bruised" feeling, but I can live with that. :nod:

Springtime--:sunny: Rebirth, the thaw begins. Plants, insects, and animal wend their way up to earth's surface. The earth squirms, the buds break and the sun rays . . .we can hopefully all be part of this cycle and bring new life into the world this season. :thumbsup:

Kim

Ma butt hurts! :owow: In all actuality, the PIO wasn't so bad going in. Thanks to Suzi, I prepared myself by iceing the area first and getting my heating pad ready for afterwards. Going in wasn't bad at all. DH massaged the area afterwards and then I laid on top of the heating pad for a while. So I'm assuming that I should switch sides for every other shot?? Or is it better to be limping on just one side of my body? :awink: I definitely have a "bruised" feeling, but I can live with that. :nod:


SWITCH SIDES!! I can't imagine what a hip would feel like if you only shot into one side for so long!! :eek: Also helps if you keep the PIO vial in your warm fist for like 5 minutes before you prepare the injection and inject. And go slow (as if you could inject PIO fast! :lol: ).

Springtime--:sunny: Rebirth, the thaw begins. Plants, insects, and animal wend their way up to earth's surface. The earth squirms, the buds break and the sun rays . . .we can hopefully all be part of this cycle and bring new life into the world this season. :thumbsup:

KimWhat beautiful imagery!

Dawn, So nice to hear that you may join our Spring Group :redflower I hope your insurance issues clear up soon, so you can be on your way without further delays :bighug:

Kim, Definitely switch sides :eek:!!! I am sooooooo excited as the countdown continues... All my prayers and good thoughts are aimed your way for tomorrow sweetie :pray: :crossfing! STICKY, STICKY, STICKY VIBES :kiss:!!!
PS Thanks for the lovely "spring verse"... very uplifting

Vyonne

Kim- I'm thinking of you and praying for a successful transfer! You know I'm a newbie at all of this, but 8 fertilized embies sounds like success to me!! It only takes one, right??!!! I'll be thinking about you tomorrow!!!

Dawn- I'm happy to hear that you'll be cycling soon!

Vyonne- I'm hoping that you're recovering quickly and ready to have a fun weekend!

Ang- Hope the m/s is better!!!

Suzi- Thanks for the advice on the PIO. Unfortunately I have plenty of padding at the injection site, so hopefully it won't be too bad!!

I just had the most unpleasant run in with a contractor who is supposed to be doing some work on our house. He got me so teed off that the veins were bulging in my neck. In FL contractors have so much work because of the hurricane damage, that they treat their clients like dirt!!

OK, I'm trying to let this go...stress is the enemy!!! I'm glad I'm going for acupuncture today, I always feel much more serene after a session! Thanks for letting me rant!

Kristen, I can imagine that must be a nightmare! Hope you get it all worked out! Don't count yourself out of the woods with extra padding for the PIO shots...since the oil goes into the muscle, the amount of padding doesn't matter! I have PLENTY myself and sooner or later, the hips just get SORE! :nod:

Suzi - glad you have your plan and you 'insurance' which hopefully will not be needed at all but nice to have!! I had an elevated APA which I think was antiphospholipids too, I did Lovenox throught the pregnancy - what I understand is a derivative of heparin but I did not begin until the first beta everything was fine through the first tri so assuming these are the same things, I hope that gives you some peace with the RE's plan but I am glad you have a great open dialog with the Dr. And I love your ticker!

Kim - Wonderful Fert Rate!!! :ura1: Can I ask how may embies you are planning to transfer? You may have mentioned before and I appologize if I missed it. I will be thinking about you tomorrow BIG TIME and I love your spring paragraph. Visualize a nice fluffy pink pillow for your embies to snuggle in tight!! Hope everything goes smoothly for you! Oh and yeah switch sides on the PIO, I also found that the placement of the shot made a big difference, we had the nurse draw circles on my cheeks for DH's guide and that helpped quite a bit!

Kristen - sorry to hear about the contractor, I can imagine how frustaring that is - breathe! And enjoy accu.

Amanda - yes thank you for that - gets me very hopeful!!

Dawn - glad you are getting excited!

Vyonne - Glad you are on the mend!!

My surgery went well and the Dr said he felt it was very sucessfull so thank you all for the positive thoughts for the upcoming FET, looks like we are on barring any unusual biopsy report. Spend today laying low and it felt great!

I can feel the enthusiasm of this thread and it is wonderful!!!

Suzi - glad you have your plan and you 'insurance' which hopefully will not be needed at all but nice to have!! I had an elevated APA which I think was antiphospholipids too, I did Lovenox throught the pregnancy - what I understand is a derivative of heparin but I did not begin until the first beta everything was fine through the first tri so assuming these are the same things, I hope that gives you some peace with the RE's plan but I am glad you have a great open dialog with the Dr. And I love your ticker!

Yes, same thing. Judy, did you do lovenox just through the 1st tri or were you still injecting when you lost the babies? I have to ask because when I read what you posted I suddenly got nervous because late-term m/c (especially 3rd tri) is a COMMON outcome when you have APS.:errr: Did you do the weekly blood panels to check for the efficacy of the lovenox? If I remember right, there was never a certain explanation for what happened with your boys? Or have I forgotten that there was?

I stayed on the lovenox until the loss - I actually struggled with how to phrase that - what I meant was starting the lovenox after Beta was fine in my case but of course with the pregnancy ending the way it did - it sounds odd to me to say that. There was no hard and fast cause identified for the loss though, however after autopsies and chromosomal testing, it appears that most things are pointing toward incompetent cervix, which could be twin related - one of the HR dr's said there isn't a ton of medical evidence but they theorize that the additional hormones soften the cervix too early and that is behind many losses of multiple pregnancies. I think for peace of mind in the next pregnancy I will have a preventative cerclage at around 12 weeks. But I will stay on lovenox up to at least 34 weeks. Then I think they will switch me to heparin as it disapates more quickly in your body and taper me off just before delivery.

I was not given any monitoring tests during pregnancy. Possibly because mine was a borderline result? The Dr's seem to have mixed opinions on if these meds help etc but I am unwilling to take any chances. I think I need to get more info on the monitoring though so I can request that!

APS is a relatively new area for IF treatment - I was the very first patient at my center to test positive for APS. I researched it ad nauseum last summer and treatment is really up to the OB, typical course of treatment being either through the 1st tri or through 6 weeks PP. Now when you are on heparin (or lovenox) it is standard treatment to have blood panels EVERY week because doctors have to test for efficacy of the drug - if you do not have the correct therapeutic level then you are not protected! I guess it concerns/concerned me that you were being treated for APS but lost your babies for an unknown reason - but in a very typical APS manner (does that make sense?). If your blood was not thinned properly (which is what gets checked every week) then you can throw a clot and cut the placenta off and m/c. I don't mean to rehash things for you - I'm sorry if I did! :hug99:

no no don't appologize at all!! I want to learn as much as possible so as to avaoid anything like this happening again!! But you are raising question for me if a clot was thrown to one or both babies wouldn't that have reflected in an autopsy? I guess, I just assumed that since both babies were born alive, there hadn't been any clotting issue - but I think I have to start researching this now to make sure that I ask the right questions next pregnancy!!!

Any news from Kim on the transfer??? Sending lots of sticky vibes!!!!
Suzi and Judy - Lovenox is low-molecular weight heparin. It's dosed differently from heparin. The dose of lovenox is based entirely on the patient's weight. As far as I know there is no blood test to measure the "levels." Heparin, on the other hand, affects the "prothrombin time" or PTT. That you can measure.

Amanda

Kim I hope it went all right today! :crossfing

Kim, Thinking about you, praying everything went well :crossfing , and you have your little ones :hb::hb::hb: getting nurtured by your love :hug99:

STICKY VIBES YOUR WAY, SWEETIE!!!

Vyonne

Kim, I posted in your journal and now I'll post here...I am sending every good thought and wish I can muster your way! :justahug:

Apologies, apologies for not posting sooner, but I was trying so hard to take it easy. :awink: I have a tendency to find little things around the house to do, especially when I'm sick or I'm supposed to be taking it easy and before I know it, I haven't relaxed and the day is over! So, on Friday night I rented 4 DVDs so that I could be prepared to do nothing on Saturday but chill out on the couch. :thumbsup:

Everything went really well yesteday. :ura1: I woke up on Saturday morning without any expectations. :dunno: I just really didn't think about it and focused on the fact that I needed to be there by 10:15. I didn't even dawn on me until we (DH came) got to the clinic that I would be finding out the fertilization rates, how many will transfer, if there are any to freeze, etc. But I was thrilled with the news: We transfered two embies. . .one was a 10-celled grade 3 (top grade) and the other was an 8 celled grade 3. They froze 3. I think one was an 8 and the other two were 7. And there are two more that they're watching. Knowing that there were some available for freezing really helped to relax me. It somehow just took some pressure off. And so, the transfer itself went smoothly, and I was told my lining looked great at 8.4mm. :thumbsup:

After the transfer, I had an acupuncture appointment which was nice and relaxing. Then I got home, had a bite to eat, lit some incense (patchouli in fact, which is supposed to be used for attraction and fertility) and took advantage of the time to watch two movies that I knew my husband wouldn't want to watch. . ."In Her Shoes" and "Rent". I loved them both. My beta test is on Wednesday, March 29. I've already decided that I'm going to take a half day that day or depending on my work load, take the whole day off.

Thank you all so much for sending all of your well wishes. It means so incredibly much to me. :grouphugg:

Kim

Sounds like everything went wonderfully Kim!! I'm excited you had some to freeze just for what you mentioned to take a little pressure off. Sticky Sticky vibes being sent your way!!! Relax!!!

How was In her Shoes? :secret:



Amanda - thanks for clarifying on the lovenox

Kim- I am so sorry I missed wishing you good luck! It sounds like it couldn't have went better and it is wonderful that there is embies to freeze so you have a little pressure of you you! :ura1:

Kim, Sounds like everything went extremely well! :yippee::yippee: TWO LITTLE ONES IN YOUR BELLY!!! And with the three they froze :aok:... will help you relax better :nod:. Take it easy and STICKY, STICKY vibes your way. I am so happy for you, and I´m sending you tons of good thoughts and prayers your way! :kiss:

Vyonne

Amanda, thank you SO much for clarifying the heparin/lovenox issue!! I can rest much better now and Judy, I am sorry for having brought that up for you! :justahug:

Kim...I'm giving you everything I've got! :thumbsup: :crossfing :rahrah: :kiss:

Kim-OMG I'm crying tears of joy for you! You'll get your BFP on my Birthday, thats gotta be lucky!!!! Sticky Sticky Sticky Sticky Prayers for your two little embies!!! I'm just so happy for you and in shock that its time already! You take care of yourself and those little embies, oh I'm just jumping for you! Love the Spring thoughts to it sums up the season of renewal perfectly!

Vyonne, Suzi, Dawnie and Kristin-Start of May isnt so far off either before we know we will all be BFP!

Judy-I am so happy your FET is coming up, Sticky Sticky prayers Luv!

Rho-I am so sorry things didnt work out on this cycle, stay positive like Vyonne said you never n\know when you least expect it you may be BFP!

I hope I didn't miss anyone! Its hard to catch up on two weeks away! Well things are going great on this end. We are in Victoria now, and everything is going as smooth as can be. I went for my first ultrasound yesterday and I have 5 follies R/S 10-12 and 7 L/S 7-12 and my lining is at 9. I'm pretty sure this is good? I forgot to ask because all I could think was man thats an ovary follie? I did ask though why I was bruising so bad and they cut my bb asprin off. I look like an abuse survivor from the last three days shots but its from the blood thinner. I go again tommorow for blood and U/S. Have you ever had to shoot up in a strange place? Yesterday we went to a hockey game and I had to do the shots when we parked, Dh was holding a needle for me when the cops drove by and all I could think was great we are going to get arrested for fertility drugs! Well Mike is going to take me to the coast to pick shells again tommorow after the U/S and then we are going to go looking for crabs, (the kind you eat). We are going to try to kick back a bit, as I want to be as relaxed as possible. I'm hoping that things go great and maybe they will do the retrieval early, cause I'm losing my patience and my mood swings are killer! I've cried over so many things it felt like I sprung a leak! At least they are not the violent BCP swings, more of an emotional I'm so hot I want to run around naked and cry type. I think people think I'm crazy!

Well Baby Dust Wishes Hug and Love!
Andrea

Andrea, your count is terrific! I'm glad things are going so well for you!! :aok:

KIM, great news about your transfer and your frozen embies! Sticky wishes to you and DH! Keep that great attitude and optimistic spirit. I'm sooooo excited for you. :ura1:

Andrea take a drive out to Sooke there are some nice beaches there you can look for shells at (but I doubt you'll find too many :lol: ) or you can go to the Esquimalt Lagoon.

For both, take the "Old Island Hwy" (is it Craigflower Road??? EEK! I can't remember the other name of the road!) and for the Esquimalt Lagoon take the exit (left) just past the Juan de Fuca Rec Centre (Jeez! I can't remember the name of that road either! I don't know if I ever knew them but I drove on them every day for 15 years!!).

For Sooke, just stay on that road until you get to Sooke. Go through the two stop lights and turn left on Whiffen Spit Road and go to the end. :)

PS Pescatore's is an excellent seafood restaurant. It's right downtown on the street by the Empress. Humboldt I think. Go past the Spode China shop at Gov't and Humboldt and it's just past that.

I miss Victoria. :(

Back to the regularly scheduled topic! :) Oh! I should say Good luck with your treatments there! :)

Andrea everythings sounds like it is going great!!
public shots are the best huh? Amazing what you can do for the right cause :shuffle:

public shots are the best huh? Amazing what you can do for the right cause :shuffle:

A couple times I felt like such a junkie... :lol2:

Andrea, :wow: Your count is very, very good! In no time you´ll be having your retrival :yippee:... I also hope your mood swings start to wear off soon! My thoughts and prayers are with you, hon :hug1:

PS You are right, May isn´t so far off :rolleyes:

A couple times I felt like such a junkie... :lol2:
Suzi, I know exactly what you mean :rotflmao:

Vyonne

Bev-Just had a giggle cause we are staying with family in Sooke and we went to the Lagoon yesterday! And we are probably going to Pescatore's or Harbour house for dinner on Wed. for Mikes BDay! I take you lived out here for a while?

Thanks guys for your well wishes! You really are the best group of women!

Andrea take a drive out to Sooke there are some nice beaches there you can look for shells at (but I doubt you'll find too many :lol: ) or you can go to the Esquimalt Lagoon.

For both, take the "Old Island Hwy" (is it Craigflower Road??? EEK! I can't remember the other name of the road!) and for the Esquimalt Lagoon take the exit (left) just past the Juan de Fuca Rec Centre (Jeez! I can't remember the name of that road either! I don't know if I ever knew them but I drove on them every day for 15 years!!).

For Sooke, just stay on that road until you get to Sooke. Go through the two stop lights and turn left on Whiffen Spit Road and go to the end. :)

PS Pescatore's is an excellent seafood restaurant. It's right downtown on the street by the Empress. Humboldt I think. Go past the Spode China shop at Gov't and Humboldt and it's just past that.

I miss Victoria. :(

Back to the regularly scheduled topic! :) Oh! I should say Good luck with your treatments there! :)

Kim -- I am sooooo glad that things went so well. LOTS of stick vibes going your way. Good luck with the next week and a half!

Andrea -- That's great! Good luck with your treatments & I hope it's over soon. Shots in public are pretty funny. My best was in a stairwell of my husband's parking garage as we were getting ready to go out to a show.

I had a consult with my RE this week & had good & bad news. I had my first hysteroscopy & it was very cool to see the stuff on the inside. Everything on the inside looks great, but my FSH isn't so good. I am only 32, but my day 3 FSH is already 10. The MD didn't really have an explanation for it, just that my ovaries are getting old (probably moving towards POV.) She said that I am already on the most aggressive medication protocol, so that will continue the same. I am going to add accupuncture this time & we'll also add assisted hatching. I think that we will be giving this every possible chance to work! We'll be starting stims next month, with retrival around the first week of May. It is nice to have a time frame & a plan! I love both of the doctors in the practice that I switched to, though I wish their office was closer to me. They seem a lot more detail oriented than my last RE, which makes me feel that we will have the best chance. I am feeling a lot more optomistic about things & am just ready to get going!

I had a consult with my RE this week & had good & bad news. I had my first hysteroscopy & it was very cool to see the stuff on the inside. Everything on the inside looks great, but my FSH isn't so good. I am only 32, but my day 3 FSH is already 10.
Carla, Regarding your FSH results, I would run an additional test next month again. Sometimes those results get altered for no known reason, and suddenly the next time around, the reading can differ substantially :woa:! It happened to me the very fisrt time I was getting started for IF treatments (2 1/2 years ago)... I had a VERY HIGH FSH reading, so my RE suggested right then in there, egg donation. However, the next month around, he decided to do the FSH test all over again, because he had experienced patients that threw "bad readings", and oh surprise... the second time around the reading was normal. So we did that cycle (and the following 3) with my own eggs. And doing 3rd day FSH everytime there after, only confirmed that the first high reading was simply a fluke. With this, I am not saying that your RE is bad/wrong, but perhaps it would be beneficial to run the test one more time, to see if the high FSH persists :dunno:... you really have nothing to loose! Sorry to give you my opinion, but since it happened to me once, it could happen to others too, plus, at only 32, high FSH in not quite common. Best of luck with everything :bighug:
Also, great to hear that we have one more (you), for our Spring Group Hatching :ura1: ... and, like Suzi said: The more the merrier!!!

Vyonne

Carla, don't be too discouraged by your CD3, 10 isn't awful. Normal CD3 FSH is from 3-20mIU/ml (REs like to see below 9-ish) and the range from 10-12 is just beginning to indicate possible ovarian failure. Also, I have a friend who had CD3 FSH levels of over 15 and she just delivered a set of twins right before Christmas. :crossfing that you'll have no trouble as well! :nod:

Thank you Suzi, Vyonne, Andrea, Carla, Judy, Rho, Bev, Kerri . . .:bighug: I will gladly take any positive thoughts and wishes that come my way. :thumbsup:

Judy~I loved "In Her Shoes". There were some similarities between the two main characters in the movie and my sisters and me.

Andrea~Everything with your cycle sounds great. :clap: I know what you mean about shooting up. We've shot up in the car, in the bathroom at his job, and at a party! Crazy stuff. . .but hopefully all worth it. :)

CarlaG~That's great that you love and trust your Dr. It's so important in the long run. I agree with Vyonne and Suzi about the FSH levels. There have been many a woman who has gotten pregnant on their own with FSH levels substantially higher.

Well, I have to be honest, although I do have a lot to feel positive about, I am a bit of a basket case. I guess (know) it's the drugs. :rolleyes: Today I felt defeated and cried like a baby. I couldn't deal with the PIO. :fado: I have no problem with the shot in the evening. . .with the ice and everything, it barely hurts and then I sleep comfortably throughout the night. When I get up in the AM, I don't feel so bad either, but about 3 or so hours later, my hips are in a lot of pain. Today was dreadful. Both my hips were so sore that I had trouble sitting and walking and I was on the brink of tears with all the pain. . .not to mention the nausea that I truly believe was not just from the PIO, but from how much pain I was in as I tried to "fake it" during the day. I just can't get through work like this. :tearhair: Several people asked if I hurt myself and I told them that it has to do with squats I did at the gym last night. Unfortunately, I can't use that lie for the next 8 days. So, after much agonizing, I called and asked the RN if there was any way for me to switch to the Crinone mid-way though. I was told that was fine, but they want me to go on 200mg of Prometruim 3x a day instead of the Crinone. These are capsules that I will take vaginally. I cried on my way home feeling like such a failure. :angry2: I really wanted to try to make the PIO work. I tried my best, that's all I can say.

Kim

Well, I have to be honest, although I do have a lot to feel positive about, I am a bit of a basket case. I guess (know) it's the drugs. :rolleyes: Today I felt defeated and cried like a baby. I couldn't deal with the PIO. :fado: I have no problem with the shot in the evening. . .with the ice and everything, it barely hurts and then I sleep comfortably throughout the night. When I get up in the AM, I don't feel so bad either, but about 3 or so hours later, my hips are in a lot of pain. Today was dreadful. Both my hips were so sore that I had trouble sitting and walking and I was on the brink of tears with all the pain. . .not to mention the nausea that I truly believe was not just from the PIO, but from how much pain I was in as I tried to "fake it" during the day. I just can't get through work like this. :tearhair: Several people asked if I hurt myself and I told them that it has to do with squats I did at the gym last night. Unfortunately, I can't use that lie for the next 8 days. So, after much agonizing, I called and asked the RN if there was any way for me to switch to the Crinone mid-way though. I was told that was fine, but they want me to go on 200mg of Prometruim 3x a day instead of the Crinone. These are capsules that I will take vaginally. I cried on my way home feeling like such a failure. :angry2: I really wanted to try to make the PIO work. I tried my best, that's all I can say. Kim
Oh sweetie, Nobody that goes through what we all go through for a baby... should ever feel like a failure! You are doing great and just because you can´t take the PIOs doesn´t mean you are not courageous and strong :hug99: ... so I don´t want to hear you saying that again :slap: . Trust me, we all go through different faces and we handle our treatments differently. For me the PIOs were a piece of cake :dunno: and couldn´t figure out why they did not face me at all! The vaginal capsules are fine... they are just a bit of a mess :rolleyes:, plus having to lay down for about 20 mins after each application drove me nuts. Also :fyi: , out my last 4 girlfriends that did IVF in the last 18 months and got pg, 3 used vaginal capsules :nod:. So, please don´t worry and enjoy your beautiful little ones :hb: :hb: and have DH spoil you rotten!!! From your post I gather you went to work today? Just take it easy and be happy with the blessing that has just taken place in your body! I send you tons of love, good vibes and prayers to keep those babies where they belong... your belly :kiss:

Vyonne

Kim-I've been so crazy I haven't had a chance to check in. I thought about you this weekend, though, hoping that the transfer went well! It sounds like it did! I'm sending you sticky, sticky vibes. As for the PIO, I don't have a point of reference, because I haven't taken it, but I have no doubt that it's tough! You are NOT a failure!!!! You are a strong, brave woman who has been through a lot and is still going strong! So be gentle with yourself and be happy that you're done with the PIO! Hang in there!

Has my 1st U/S sound today and we saw




















TWINS!! :jawdrop:
I am in complete and utter shock! I was so positive it was only one baby!

We saw both HB's which were 130 and both measured right on target. I am dying already to know the sex's. My gut is telling me twin boys! We will see soon!


Kim~SBV~SBV~ Hope you are taking it easy and thinking and visualizing a sticky baby or 2. I am so glad you had a smooth ER on Sat. I said many prayers for you!

We are definitely going to have a lot of +++++++ in here soon with all the cycling going on.

:jawdrop: WOW X 2!!! CONGRATULATIONS, ANGELA!!!

:ura1: :ura1: Twins - How Exciting!!! :ura1: :ura1: Congratulations, Angela!

Congratulations Angela!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kim, if it makes you feel any better, I've had 5 IVF's, 2 on Crinone & 3 with PIO injections. I got pregnant with the cycles on Crinone, but not the PIO injections.

Thanks for the info on the CD3 FSH. My RE wasn't overly concerned, but feels like it is something to keep an eye on since it has been trending up. She also mentioned the month to month fluctuations, so hopefully this month is an anomoly. (Hopefully I get pregnant next month & will never have to worry about FSH again!):nod:

Hopefully I get pregnant next month & will never have to worry about FSH again! :nod:

Don't you know it!!! :crossfing

:faint: Twins! :faint: That's awesome Angela! Good things come to those who wait! I know how much you wanted twins...me on the other hand...one baby please! :lol:

I got AF today. I am doing two months of BCP before IVF so eight weeks until my IVF! :woa:

:woo: Congratulations Angela! :ura1:

CarlaG~That's great that you love and trust your Dr. It's so important in the long run. I agree with Vyonne and Suzi about the FSH levels. There have been many a woman who has gotten pregnant on their own with FSH levels substantially higher.
I am one of them Carla. Long story and I won't repeat it but my 2 FSH tests were I think 14 and then the cycle I got pregnant on my own it was 11.

Ang, CONGRATULATIONS!
:woo: :pteddy: :bteddy: EXCITED AND SOOOOOOOOO HAPPY FOR YOU AND DH... TIMES TWO!!!

SIMPLY AWESOME DEAR :bighug: TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOURSELF AND THOSE LITTLE ANGELS! WAY TO GO :nod:

Vyonne

Angela!:ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: Hurray for twins!!!! I am so happy for you and DH thats so great!!!

Kim-You are a strong,brave woman! No more stinkin thinkin'! Tell your horomones to cut that S#$% out! I was completely happy when the Doc gave me the patch and suppositories cause I dont have to do the POI (ouch). Other then the mess think about the reward, only a week until you go for you BETA, and I cant wait to hear your positive news!

Kerry-Right on girl! May will be here soon!!!!

Carla-Fingers crossed for you to Luv!

Well went for ultrasound again today (yesterday went great). I have been reassigned to another Dr. because of an emergency and though he's not the doc I started with hes good. Today he tells me after the mock transfer and letting me pee, that we are ready to Rock and Roll. So as I'm getting dressed I tell Mike that I think that it looks like we get to trigger tomorow. When we went into the office for followup the Dr says everything looks great so we want to trigger tonight and retreive thurs. morn! So i trigger tonight at 10! We're a couple of days early but I think its just great! Then we went for some retail therapy and I bought a couple of items that even though they aren't Maternity they will expand! We are so excited! i cant believe we here already! Well I'll let you know how the ER goes, hugs Love and Baby Dust Wishes!!!!!!
Andrea

Congratulations, Angela! Twins are so much fun! I've (lurked and) followed your journey... I am thrilled for you! :D

Ang~:woo: What awesome news!!! :ura1: :banana: :rahrah:

Andrea~ :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: How exciting. So that means retrieval on Thursday morning? I'll be thinking of you and sending you lots of positive vibes. :pray: :crossfing

Kerri~You're almost there. I hope the next two months go by swiftly and joyfully. :yippee: :bighug:

CarlaG~You know what? Your post about Crinone vs. PIO DOES indeed make me feel a lot better. :bighug:

Thanks ladies for helping to boost my confidence about this. I even called the RN back yesterday wondering if I could alternate between the PIO and the prometrium every other day. :screwy: Of course they told me I should stick with one thing. . it would just confuse me and confuse the dosages. Truly not wanting to really give it up, I had this wild idea that if I had two days of rest between each cheek then I'd be fine because it would only be one hip in pain on any given day and not both. :dunno: I have to admit, that I was in a whole different world yesterday. . being pain free. I still have a bit of nausea from the progestrone, but at least I could walk and smile and concentrate on my job and I wasn't so emotional. So, thank goodness there are alternatives. :thumbsup:

Kim

Andrea, :wow: RE tomorrow already??? That is just sooooooo exciting :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: !!! I am sending you all positive vibes for a grrrrrrreat retrival :crossfing. My thoughts and prayers are with you, sweetie :bighug:

Kim, Happy to hear you are in better spirits :aok: You are doing just fine! And can´t wait to hear your wonderful news next Wednesday :hug99:

Vyonne

Bev-Just had a giggle cause we are staying with family in Sooke and we went to the Lagoon yesterday! And we are probably going to Pescatore's or Harbour house for dinner on Wed. for Mikes BDay! I take you lived out here for a while?
I lived in Victoria from age 18-22 (school) then again from 25 to 37 (working). I bought my first house (in Sooke) when I was 29 and lived there for about 5 years before moving to Colwood with DH. I really miss it a lot. Hope Mike had a nice Birthday. :)

Angela- TWINS!! How wonderful!!! You must be so excited and I'm just thrilled for you!!! Congrats!

Andrea- Good luck on your retrieval!! I'm thinking sticky thoughts for you!!

Kim- I'm happy to hear your spirits are up!


I just got back from my RE appt and I'm feeling very upset. First, my right ovary is almost gone from having cysts removed, so they aren't very optimistic about retrieving many eggs. So that just leaves me one. We knew that this was an issue, so I wasn't surprised. But then I found out my FSH is 10. I'm 37 so I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm really upset. My E2 was 32. I feel like my chances of conceiving are just dwindling. I've already cried in my office twice today and if I didn't have two huge client meetings this afternoon I would just go home. I really need to get it together!!

I just got back from my RE appt and I'm feeling very upset. First, my right ovary is almost gone from having cysts removed, so they aren't very optimistic about retrieving many eggs. So that just leaves me one. We knew that this was an issue, so I wasn't surprised. But then I found out my FSH is 10. I'm 37 so I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm really upset. My E2 was 32. I feel like my chances of conceiving are just dwindling. I've already cried in my office twice today and if I didn't have two huge client meetings this afternoon I would just go home. I really need to get it together!!
Kristen, Oh, hon don´t feel defeated :noqueno:, stay positive and have FAITH :pray:!!! Also, remeber that all you need is ONE good egg to conceive! In the road that we travel (IF) there are always some news that are not so easy to digest... but we need to be (and stay) strong, keep up the fight and don´t give up. It is also good to cry when you need to, as a way to vent... but don´t let negative feelings overcome the good ones. Remember that there are always MIRACLES and other alternatives too :nod:. Take it easy and WALK... don´t RUN, and know that we are all here for whatever you may need. I don´t mean to rumble :blahblah: , but look at me... if someone should be giving up, that is me... but I refuse to give up until I have tried EVERYTHING doctors and science have to offer me... My last two procedures gave me something invaluable called: HOPE. So believe me, if there is hope for me... there is hope for you too! Even if that means going to get water from the moon :lol:!!! My prayers and positive thoughts are with you, so that your left ovary produces great eggs :hug99:

Vyonne

I just got back from my RE appt and I'm feeling very upset. First, my right ovary is almost gone from having cysts removed, so they aren't very optimistic about retrieving many eggs. So that just leaves me one. We knew that this was an issue, so I wasn't surprised. But then I found out my FSH is 10. I'm 37 so I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm really upset. My E2 was 32. I feel like my chances of conceiving are just dwindling. I've already cried in my office twice today and if I didn't have two huge client meetings this afternoon I would just go home. I really need to get it together!!

Before you get yourself too stressed (gotta stay calm for an IVF cycle! :nod: ), on what cycle day was your E2 32?

Suzi-My E2 was 32 on CD2. That falls within the normal range, doesn't it? I'm a research junkie, but I'm still getting my legs when it comes to the minute details of IVF.

Vyonne- Thanks so much for your support, I'm feeling much better now! I had to be "on" for clients so that helped pull me out of my funk!

I just got the call from my RE and she wants me to start my stims on Friday. So I guess we're just going to move full steam ahead and hope and pray for the best!

Kristen, it is normal and I think you can put your mind to rest!! I have had E2s all over the place for CD3s (we were just looking at them) - as low as 2 or 3 and as high as 42 - and I do not have any trouble producing follicles for IVF. Mind you I do not produce the 15-20 that most women do but I typically get between 4-9 follicles (but then again I am turning 40 this year also). Further I have no trouble with fertilization, typically getting nearly all mature eggs to fertilize.

BTW...normal CD3 E2 is 25-75pg/ml. :aok:

Thanks, Suzi! The FSH 10 is a bit worrisome, but I guess it's on the very low end of high (if that makes sense??). I'm just going to do the best I can and pray, pray, pray! I'm excited to finally be starting the injections!

Angela...YAY!!!! TWINS!!!! Hooray!!!!!

Kristen...My friend is 36, she and DH were TTC for years. She had one ovary/tube removed when she was 19. Her ivf doc told her she was producing very poor quality eggs, and very few. Even w/ stim drugs she only was getting between 1-3. She got pregnant first ivf, and again a couple years later. Now at 36, she just found out she is pregnant and this happened naturally. So please don't give up hope. I know I am not familiar w/ your story and background, but things happen, they do. Keep the faith, girl!! You can do it!

Kim...How are you doing? You got through the first week, right? One more to go! Sorry to hear about your progesterone issues. I'm sure either way is fine, no? My center's protocol is to use PIO up to transfer and vaginal thereafter. My fingers are still crossed for you!

Wow Angela - congratulations!!!! :ura1: :ura1: Here's to a very healthy pregnancy for you!!!

Andrea - Thinking of you today hope retreival goes well!!!

Kim - sorry the PIO's are such a PITA - don't at all worry about switching - actually when I was pregnant, my prog level was bordeline low - around 20 so the Dr added sups. I actually prefer the shot - go figure so I asked if I could just add another one and they told me they preferred me usuing the sup as the progesterone would be absorbed closer to the uterus so it was better in that case.

Kristen - exciting injections start tomorrow!! I think everything must be where your RE wants to see it

Hello to everyone else!!! Just checking in. I'm in wait for AF mode. Figure she will be here tomorrow or Sat then we will hopefully begin estrogen for FET.

Rho-Thanks for the pep talk. I got a full 8 hours last night and I woke up this morning and decided not to feel sorry for myself again today. We're going for it full steam ahead!

Andrea - I'm thinking about you and hoping your retrieval goes flawlessly!!!-

Kim - You're halfway through your tww! Hopefully your bum is back to normal!:)

Judy- I hope AF shows soon so you can get the ball rolling!!!

Well, AF showed last night so here we go! I start Lupron on 12 April (as best I can count)...things are rolling now! :eek:

Kristen~I'm so glad that you're on your way and starting the stims. :yippee: But I know what you mean about trying to get it together at work
:hug99: For everyone of my BFN's, I've been at work when I've gotten the news and can not tell you the agony of trying to be patient and concerned about work issues and yet in so much pain on the inside. I was always able to leave soon after the bad news, but the fact is, it's so hard to deal with horrible news and be at work at the same time. I've smartened up and have already taken the day of my beta test off from work. Of course, I hope I'll be jumping for joy at home. Thanks for asking. . .yes, my butt is back to normal. . I can sit, I can walk, I can lay down. . .it's wonderful. It's amazing how much that pain affected my day. :scratch:

Rho~Thanks for asking. I'm doing good. Hanging in there. :thumbsup:

Judy~That information really helps me feel better. You know, just this morning, since my butt is back to normal, I was thinking that maybe I should try to PIO again for a few days. . .I think I have to just let this go and be satisfied knowing that the Sups will be fine. :awink:

Suzi~Yeah. :rahrah: :clap: Finally. It feels so good to be on your way doesn't it. :ura1:

I've taken the day of my beta off. . .just in case. I just can NOT be at work. . .especially if it's bad news. My husband said something to me yesterday that he's never said before in my history of IVFs. He said, "It's so hard waiting." I just had to laugh. :locolaugh

Kim

Suzi- YAY! You're on your way! :ura1:

Kim- So glad that you're feeling better, and I think it's a good idea to take the day off. Then you can treat yourself to something special when you get the good news!!!!

Vyonne- Thanks so much for your support, I'm feeling much better now! I had to be "on" for clients so that helped pull me out of my funk!
Kristen, So glad I was of help :nod:. Happy to know you are now feeling better, sweetie :hug99:

Suzi, Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! The ball is rolling :rahrah:

Judy, Hope AF gets there soon, so you too can start the ball rolling :aok:

Andrea, Good thoughts, hugs and prayers for an excellent retrieval :bighug:

Kim, Great idea to take the day off work to get your beta results at home... that way you can scream of joy :woo:, all you want... when you get the wonderful news :bighug:
PS. I am praying so hard for you, darling :pray:

As far as me goes, I am waiting for AF to show up :disbelief (with keen anticipation!) . Its funny, but so many times I dreaded for AF to show up... and this time, I am beging AF to come my way NOW:angry2: Once I get this AF, my RE will be able to check my linning on the 5th day after AF has gone, and decide if the 2 procedures I had, were succesful enough to start preparing for my next and hopefully FINAL IVF :pray:

Vyonne

Good Morning! I can't help it, I'm feeling rather pleased with myself! I got through my very FIRST shot ever (self administered, that is) without a hitch!! I hope that it's working and my follies are growing as we speak!!!

Andrea- I hope that your ER went off without a hitch and that you'll have lots of Grade A embies for your transfer!!!

Good Morning Ladies! I'll start by updating you all,

Well Retreival went great and of the 13 follies they retrieved 7 eggs, 1 that was immature. We got the call this morning that of the 6 left 5 are fertilized and doing well, all the eggs were ICSI'd. The embrilogist will call with an update again tommorow and we go sunday for transfer! :ura1: Today I'm only slightly sore and because they gave me really good drugs:ura1: , yesterday wasnt to bad. I expected alot worse...So today I'm gonna do some retail therapy because sunday cant come soon enough! I so want to baby shop but I know thats bad luck!

Kim-I'm so glad your doing better! 1 week down one more week of the wait left, Praying it passes fast for us both!

Kristen-I'm so glad the first shot went well for you! Hoping those follies are growing some perfect eggs for your cycle!

Suzi-:ura1: for the start of AF! Not long now sweety!
Vyonne-Hoping AF shows for you soon so that you can get this show on the road! Praying the results are just what you need to get the BFP you want!

Judy-Hoping AF shows up quick for you too! How long do you have to take the estrogen before they transfer? Fingers crossed Luv!

Well Ladies I'm off to shop,
Baby dust wishes and Prayers!
Andrea

Kristen~:hi5: Good for you for doing the shot yourself. During all my cycles, which I think is about 10 :rolleyes: , that I used injectables, I was never once able to administer on my own. :mope: So I think that's awesome. :thumbsup:

Andrea~Sounds great! :yippee: I wish you all the best this Sunday. :crossfing :pray: I'm going to be doing some retail therapy tomorrow myself. . .to help me get my mind off things. :awink:

Kim

Andrea, that's terrific news!! :yippee: I LOVE all the good things going on in here!!

Andrea, Thrilled with the good report, sweetie :yippee: My good thoughts and prayers for a successful transfer on Sunday :aok:

PS Thanks for your prayers and good wishes for my AF hurry here and forth coming results :hug99:

Kristen, There you go girl :clap:... You are doing great!!! Keep it up :hug99:

Kim, :pray: hard... still :bighug:

Vyonne

OMG!! I feel like so out of the loop. Work has been very hectic for me these last few weeks- I have been so out of touch.

Angela - what a blessing for you - TWINS! How great!!

Kim - so glad your transfer went well

Andrea - Good luck on Sunday with your transfer.

Kristen - The first shot was the hardest for me, especially since my RE wants them injected into the stomach - but it really wasn't so bad - and I was terrified of needles for a really long time. So way to go - you should be proud.

Suzi - you are on your way!!

Judy and Vyonne - I hope AF comes soon!!

I hope I did not miss anyone - I have to get back to work now.

Hope to check in soon.

Baby dust to all!!!

OMG! So much exciting news here!!!
Angela - I'm so excited for your twins!!! CONGRATS!!!!
Andrea and Kim - I'm sending the stickiest of sticy vibes for you!
Suzi - I can't believe you're ready to start. How wonderful!!!
Judy and Vyonne - Here's hoping AF arrives soon so things can get moving.
Kristen - Hang in there!

Amanda

Andrea-I'm so happy to hear that your retrieval went well!!
Kim- Only a few days left to find out the good news!!!

I just came back from my first ultrasound and bloodwork. I only have 7 follicles. I'm only working with one ovary, so I guess I should expect fewer follicles. I'm really dissappointed. Does anyone know the chances of producing more follicles in the next few days? Hopefully my E2 level will come back where it should be.

Kristen-I dont know how many wll develope over the next couple of days but I'm really hoping that they grow for you! Hopefully your bigger follies will produce more than one egg for you.

Kim hows the count down going? How are you feeling? I'm praying that those little embies are making themselves right at home for you!

Well we transfered two 19 out 20 embries yesterday! The doctor told us that we had a perfect cycle and we should be proud that everything went so well on the first shot! He also said next year we cant call and say one is his either! Hopefully he is right! We had three left over but it looks like only two to freeze. I'm thinking thats not bad at all considering there were only 7 to begin with and we really want these first two to be sticky sticky! Now we are 1 day into the 2ww and already I'm chomping at the bit to test! DH laughed at me yesterday and said I'm only allowed 1 hpt before the BETA on the the 7th! He's so mean! He's been walking around with a mega watt grin for hours, and calling all the family to let them know. Both of us are really positive that things are gonna go great, if not we can do the FET in a few months which is a big relief!

Baby dust wishes, love and hugs to you all! Without your support I would be a wreck by now!
Thanks,
Andrea

Andrea-I'm so happy to hear that your retrieval went well!!
Kim- Only a few days left to find out the good news!!!

I just came back from my first ultrasound and bloodwork. I only have 7 follicles. I'm only working with one ovary, so I guess I should expect fewer follicles. I'm really dissappointed. Does anyone know the chances of producing more follicles in the next few days? Hopefully my E2 level will come back where it should be.

Kristen, you are not doing badly! Seven follicles for one side is terrific - that is more than I get out of TWO perfectly ovaries! A typical cycle will produce anywhere between 10-20 follicles and with only one ovary to produce, you are RIGHT where you should be! :aok:

As for producing more, it's tough to say because I don't know how your office measures. Some offices don't measure anything below 10mm so you could have some more coming. Other centers count everything and if you have 7 today that's likely what you'll end up with. I'm sorry your response isn't what you want it to be but I promise you that it IS right where it should be! Things are looking good so far! :nod: :bighug:

Andrea, what fabulous news!! I am so excited for you... :bullhorn: STICK EMBIES!!

Well we transfered two 19 out 20 embries yesterday! The doctor told us that we had a perfect cycle and we should be proud that everything went so well on the first shot! He also said next year we cant call and say one is his either! Andrea
Andrea, I am so happy to hear everything is moving great for you :ura1:!!! STICKY, STICKY thoughts for the two little ones :pray:
Sorry, but I didn´t understand what you mean about two 19 out 20 and the other issue about next year, can´t call and say... :scratch:... I feel as if I swallowed "brake fluid" this morning :lol2: Wish you all the best this next 2ww :bighug:

Kristen, 7 is not bad at all, sweetie! Plus, sometimes other follies "appear" and give you a pleasant surprise :nod:. Just have faith, and you´ll see how everything turns out right! When is your RE scheduled for? My thoughts and prayers for a great retrival! :hug99:

Kim, Wow... only 48 more hours!!! All my prayers and Sticky vibes for a big BFP, hon :hug99:

Still waiting for AF to show up :mope:

Vyonne

Suzi and Vyonne- Thank you both for the pep talk. Suzi, I hadn't thought of things that way. If I had two ovaries working properly I'd be right there in the range. I just need to take a deep breath and be POSITIVE. I'm waiting on my IVF coordinator's call. She'll give me my E2 number (I'm praying it's over 100!!!) and then we'll go from there!

Andrea-It sounds like your transfer went perfectly! Yay! I really hope your 2ww goes by in a flash! I can't wait to hear the good news!

I better get some work done. I've got IVF on the brain, it's so hard to think about anything else!!

Vyonne- My tentative retrieval date is 4/3! Grow follies, grow.

Andrea~ :ura1: Things are sounding great!! And you're energetic and positive. . .which is wonderful. :bighug: You've got lots of prayers and good wishes from friends and family coming your way. It's all coming together perfectly. :clap:

Kristen~I think 7 follies is terrific. :yippee: Like Suzi, I was also barely getting 7 myself with both ovaries working. In fact, my donor, who obviously has no IF issues, only developed 6-7 per ovary for a totaly of 12. So, things are sounding great! :thumbsup:

I'm starting to get anxious. :crazy: I'm already anticipating all these various scenerios for Wednesday. Unfortunately the majority of them aren't the greatest scenerios. I am trying so hard to not let these negative thoughts pop into my head. . .but they keep coming. :angry2: You see, I only have the results of 6 failed IUIs, 7 failed IVFs (incl ectopic), and 2 failed natural pregnancies to go by :mope: . . . anyway, I'm still hanging in there. :crazy: :awink: Please keep the positive thoughts and prayers coming though. :grouphugg

Kim

I'm starting to get anxious. :crazy: I'm already anticipating all these various scenerios for Wednesday. Unfortunately the majority of them aren't the greatest scenerios. I am trying so hard to not let these negative thoughts pop into my head. . .but they keep coming. :angry2: You see, I only have the results of 6 failed IUIs, 7 failed IVFs (incl ectopic), and 2 failed natural pregnancies to go by :mope: . . . anyway, I'm still hanging in there. :crazy: :awink: Please keep the positive thoughts and prayers coming though. :grouphugg

Kim
Kim, Look at it this way... After so many fail attempts, this time: "Te lo has ganado a pulso" (you´ve totally earned it!) :kiss:. As I´ve told you before, I just have that funny fuzzy feeling that you´ll surprise all with your big BFP :nod:
Count on my positive thoughts, love & prayers your way, angel :bighug:

Kristen, I also forgot to mentioned (like Suzi & Kim) that with two good ovaries I produced an average 7 to 9 follies... so as I said before: You are doing terrific!!! My good thoughts, love and prayers are with you too, love :kiss: Grow, follies grow!!! Wow! 4/3 is right around the corner!

Vyonne

Kim, I don't get this many knots in my stomach for MY betas...how am I EVER going to make it another two days??? :tearhair:

Kim, you've definitely got my prayers and crossed fingers. I'm on pins and needles waiting to hear the good news. Hang in there!!!!

Kim, I don't get this many knots in my stomach for MY betas...how am I EVER going to make it another two days??? :tearhair:

Are you being sarcastic? :awink: I know, I know. . .it's the same for all of us. :rolleyes: I'm starting to feel cramping and I know that means nothing. . .it's just that reality starting to set in. . ..


Thanks you'll for continuing to send the prayers and wishes. . .

O.K. I'm thinking :sunny: and :) and :love:

Kristen, I also only have one ovary and my 1st retrieval I got 6 eggs and the second I only got two.

Andrea - I am so glad your retrieval went well.

Darn, I got my whole thing typed out and then BAM I lost it somehow. I hate it when that happens!!!

Anyway,

Kim, I'm praying hard for you, girl!! Try to stay positive. I hope you get the news you've been waiting soooo long for. :crossfing

Andrea, super sticky wishes to you, too! :pray:

Kristen, I think 7 is great and hey, it's a lucky number, no? 7 for one side!!!! Woo hooooo!!! GROW GROW GROW!!! :thumbsup:

Hope all is well with everyone here. May AF arrive quickly, if that's what you're waiting for. May she stay the hell away for the next nine months if it's not.

Goodnight, ladies!

Kim -- I have to agree with everyone's comments. I have been counting the days for you as much as I ever did for myself! I will be checking my computer often on Wednesday for news!

Suzi -- It looks like we are right in sync. My tentative retrival date is also the 4th. (Of course, that will change. It never times out the way I guess that it will.)

I had my first accupuncture session last week & will start regular sessions this week. I went to the clinic that truely specializes in IF & I have been much happier with my experience than last time I tried it.

Lots of exciting things going on around here! Hopefully this will be a very sticky year for all!

Carla

Kim, I'm thinking of you and sending lots of positive vibes your way !!!!!!!!!

Kim, I don't get this many knots in my stomach for MY betas...how am I EVER going to make it another two days??? :tearhair:

O.K. I get it now :locolaugh . . .oh my gosh, my brain is fried. :eek: :awink: Thank you so much for your continuing support. :bighug:

May AF arrive quickly, if that's what you're waiting for. May she stay the hell away for the next nine months if it's not.

Cute. . .that sums it up for all of us!

I had my first accupuncture session last week & will start regular sessions this week. I went to the clinic that truely specializes in IF & I have been much happier with my experience than last time I tried it.
The same exact thing happened to me. It took me year between the first time I tried it (I went for 3 sessions and decided it wasn't my thing) and the next time I tried it. . .and I'm still doing it. :thumbsup:

Kimberly - I'm crossing everything and saying lots of prayers that you get a BFP.

Amanda

Kim-One more day....can't wait to hear the news!!:crossfing:crossfing

Carla-I'm so glad to hear about your positive experience with acupuncture. I've only been going a month, but I feel better already. It's helped me lose weight, get back to a more normal sleep pattern and calm down (a little) and that's not even why I was going! I've also been reading a really good book called The Infertility Cure by Randine Lewis. It really helps you understand how acupuncture and herbs help in your quest to restore your fertility or to complement fertility treatments!

So my E2 came back low. Yesterday I had seven follicles and my E2 was at 44. It was only my third day of stims, but they had hoped to see it over 100. We're doing it all over again tomorrow so hopefully my little follies start producing estrogen!!! I'm trying so hard to remain positive!

So my E2 came back low. Yesterday I had seven follicles and my E2 was at 44. It was only my third day of stims, but they had hoped to see it over 100. We're doing it all over again tomorrow so hopefully my little follies start producing estrogen!!! I'm trying so hard to remain positive!
Kristen, What E2 stands for? I guess the E is related to estrogen... but the 2 :scratch:??? I am praying your follies GROW, GROW & GROW :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing, for you sweetie :hug99:
PS As you hope... I am hoping your E2 gets over 100 by tomorrow too :nod:!

Vyonne

Kristen, what day of stims were you yesterday?

Suzi- I started my stims on Fri., March 24th. So it was the morning of my fourth day. I'm really having a hard time finding info on E2 level criteria online. I go back tomorrow morning, which would be day 5 for more bloodwork and another U/S.

Any ideas?

Your center does the first stim check early...lots don't even check until day 6 or 7. Considering your center does the first check so early I don't think you are too low. I will tell you this...on my one and only truly successful cycle, I was at 140-ish on stim day 7...with TWO ovaries functioning! As far as E2 goes, the only thing you REALLY can judge quantitatively is when you go to stim they typically want 200 per follicle for mature eggs.

Long story short...it is early yet, don't get too excited about anything! :nod: :bighug:

Kristen, What E2 stands for? I guess the E is related to estrogen... but the 2 :scratch:??? I am praying your follies GROW, GROW & GROW :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing, for you sweetie :hug99:
PS As you hope... I am hoping your E2 gets over 100 by tomorrow too :nod:!
Vyonne
Kristen, :bullhorn: I think you missed my previous post, but pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease: What E2 stands for? Now that I read the dialog between you and Suzi regarding E2, I´m still not quite sure... I want to know :tantrum:

Vyonne- Sorry, I missed your question. E2 stands for estradiol. The estradiol level determines how well a woman is responding to the stimulating drugs and if the follicles are developing. As the follicles develop the estradiol levels (E2) should rise.

My doctor said that my E2 level should have been around 100 yesterday. she told me that some women are slow responders, so she upped my meds and I go back tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM for another ultrasound and more bloodwork. Hopefully my level is on the rise and they won't cancel my cycle!

Kristen~:crossfing

Kristen, Thanks for clearifying that for me (I´m glad I insisted :lol:). I guess, I was not aware that some places take bloodwork throughout the stims period. Out here, they usually do that before you start, and then, the RE goes more by the size of the follies and the development of the linning according to days of stims to decide if the cycle continues or not :dunno:

In any event... I pray and send you great vibes for those follies to be right where you need them tomorrow, and everyday thereafter until retrieval :crossfing

Try to stay positive and we´ll hope and :pray: for the best:hug99:

Kim, :hb: :kiss: :thumbsup: :crossfing :pray: :hug99: All that and much more...

Vyonne

Kim~ :crossfing :crossfing Saying many little prayers for you!


Kristen~ 7 is a great number!

Kim, you are constantly on my mind/in my thoughts!

Gosh! Thank you all so much for routing for me. :aok:

Well, the beta test is done and now I wait patiently (NOT!) for the results.
I 'm at work now but will leave at noon. I left a note at the clinic to tell them to please call me at home and not at work today. :noqueno:

All sorts of thoughts are racing through my head this morning. .some really good :), some not so good :blue: In my own way of trying to be positive, I dressed up for work today. . .nice pants, a little heel in my shoe, my diamond earrings that DH gave me for my birthday a few years ago, and a little makeup. I figure that at the very least, it'll help me feel good about myself for part of the day. Ya know, if I can't be the part, I might as well try to act the part. :heee:

:crossfing

Kim

Kim, I'll be thinking of you all day! :crossfing for really good news! :pray:

Kim-:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing

Kim, All my good thoughts are sent your way :crossfing and ALL MY PRAYERS, so you get that well deserved BFP :bighug:
PS I am as anxious, as when I was waiting for my own results :nod:
Vyonne

Good luck Kim! :crossfing

Kim I am just on pins and needles today hoping and praying for a BFP for you

:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing

Kristen - I hope that the med switchero is just the kick your body needs!!

everything is crossed for you KIM!!

I'm anxiously awaiting the results, too!

Amanda

:crossfing Thinking of you today Kim!

I just received the phone call. . . . .:bfp: :ura1: It worked! :yippee: Beta was 122! I'm so ecstatic that I don't even really know what else to say. :ura1:

OMG Kim!!!!! I'm shaking I'm so excited and happy for you!!!! That is the greatest news in the world! HOORAY!!!! CONGRATS! CONGRATS! CONGRATS!

Amanda

OMG!!! :faint:

Kim, I have tears of joy for you...I am so INCREDIBLY HAPPY for you, I can't even tell you. Congratulations girl!

Kim's gonna be a mommy!!

:wow: :yippee: :woo:
:yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:

Delurking to say....

:ura1: :jump: :ura1: :jump: CONGRATULATIONS, KIM!!! :ura1: :jump: :ura1: :jump:

I am so unbelievably happy for you!

:bfp: :woo: :jump: :pteddy: :bteddy: :bawl: :rahrah: WOOOOOOOOOOOO KIm!!!! I'm *SO* happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rahrah: :bawl: :bteddy: :pteddy: :jump: :woo: :bfp:

Kim:

http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/showthread.php?p=797362#post797362

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
OMGOMG!!!!

Horray!!!!



I have tears in my eyes - congratulations Kim!!!!!

:woo: :ura1: :rahrah: Congratulations Kim!!!! I'm so excited for you!!

:ura1: Congratulations Kim!

Oh, Kim, congratulations! I am so happy for you!

:ura1: :ura1: HOOOOOOORAY Kim!:ura1: :ura1:

Congratulations Kim! I'm so, so happy for you!

Kim, ECSTATIC WITH THE FABULOUS NEWS!!! :hi5: I AM SOOOOOOOOOOO JAZZED TO KNOW IT WORKED!!!:victory:

Remember I kept telling you I had a funny feeling it would work this time?
Well, it did and it is so well DESERVED:bfp:

:ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1:
Take good care of yourself and those little ones :pteddy::bteddy: , sweetie :bighug:

Vyonne

:wow::jump: :clap: :rahrah: :jump2: :angelfly:

I must add, I am crying some of the best TEARS OF JOY :cry:
Way to go girl :kiss:

Cheers to Kim :toast:

Vyonne :drink2: There´s no stopping me now :lol:

Kim- Congratulations!!! I couldn't be happier for you!!
:ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::u ra1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1:

:woo: Kim!!! I am so freaking happy for you!!! :bawl: I wish you 9 months of joy, general ickiness, exhaustion, and all the other wonderful things that await you!!! :yippee: I'm excited to follow your progress this year...... :hug99:

Oh my gosh. . .I'm crying now! :bawl: I am truly speechless. I always knew that you all were such an amazing group.. . .my IVF thread buddies and my other OUAL buddies, but I never expected to see such an awesome amount of support. :grouphugg

I thank you all so very much for being there to support me when I've been in the most horrible of moods and when I've been at the saddess points in my life--because this IF journey has surely been one long crazy trip. :crazy: I had no idea that along the way, I would get to know such a warm and caring group of people. I could never have made it through without your support. And now my emotions are completely awash. . . .not only with the joy that this BFP brings to me. . .but with the realization that all those times that I felt so alone, I should've remembered and known that I always had you all there holding me up and watching my back. The reality is, there are really no words to express the joy and awe that I'm feeling right now.

Kim

:jump2: :yippee: :banana: Kim!!!! I am so happy! Congrats!! I knew this was going to happen for you. I thought of you today at about Noon and I right away said a prayer and after I did that I just got a feeling or a vibe that you were PG!


I am so thrilled for you! 122 is an excellent number! Mine was 131 at 11dp3dt, is that what today is for you? Very close to my numbers, maybe twins in there??

We are going to be PG buddies!! WHOOO HOOOOO!!

Ang

:ura1: :ura1: :ura1: HOORAY!!!! Oh, Kim...I'm so SO SOOOO happy for you!!! I know I haven't been part of this group for long, but I spent awhile 'lurking' and reading past threads and you just so totally deserve this and I couldn't be more thrilled. I don't know you at all, but I thought of you often in the past 2 weeks! CONGRATULATIONS!!! WOW!!! I'm so happy!!! Your news made my day!!!! ENJOY!!!!:ura1: :ura1: :ura1:

OMG IT WORKED!!!!!

KIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:woo::jump::banana::rahrah::jump2::jump2::jump2:

CONGRATS, KIM!!!! I am so happy for you!!!

Congratulations Kim! It made my to read your news yesterday. I hope that you had a wonderful day of celebrating -- you deserved it!

-- Carla

:ura1:CONGRATS KIM!!!:ura1: :pteddy: :bteddy:


:jump2:I am so happy for you!! :clap:

This so wonderful!!

Wishing a blisfull 9 mos!!

Dawn

Thank you sooooooo much. :bighug: :kiss:

It was really nice waking up this morning and realizing that I was pregnant. :heee: I'm really looking forward to my second blood test tomorrow morning. I think that after I get those results (and if they're good) :pray:, I'm going to tell my mom and sisters.

Funny thing, I just got an email from the donor agency. I guess the donor herself called and wanted to know what the outcome was. There is no "rule" regarding this in the legal contracts so they called to ask my permission as to whether I wanted her to know what the outcome was. That was no brainer. . . I responded and basically let the agency know that I was absolutely fine with that. I myself had actually planned on writing her a letter (through the donor agency) although I was going to wait until about 9 months or so from now :awink: . I just could not go without thanking her a million times for the amazing gift that she blessed my husband and I with.

Kim

KIM-OMG just got back online and read your news! I think this sums up my tears of joy for you!:ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: :ura1: May the next 9 months bring you everything you've been dreaming of!

Andrea

You're next Andrea. . .:crossfing :awink:

Kim

I just get all teary when I come here and re-read your good news Kim!!! I hope the numbers today are perfect!!!

Amanda

I've been thinking about you all so much lately but I'm never online for very long. But today I made sure I popped over here especially after seeing Suzi tag line.

KIM- CONGRATS!!! I am just over the moon happy for you! this is just absolutly the best news ever! I really hope that today brings nice high numbers for you!!!

Angie congrats X2 to you!! How wonderful twins! I hope all is going well with your babies!

And lots of positive thoughts to all of you starting ivf or waiting to start. I hope all of you become pg very soon!

Kim? Any news?

Hey ladies. :wavey: I'm still smiling. :) I had my 2nd beta test yesterday and it was 266. :ura1: It sounds good to me. But that's it! :blue: Suzi warned me about this. :awink: I was next told to schedule my prenatal appointment w/ my IF Dr, which includes my first U/S and then a consult about where to go from there--that appointment is scheduled for 4/18. That's like an eternity to me. :tearhair: The DE coordinator told me that they only do 2 beta tests and then after that, I start seeing my IF Dr. again. She suggested that I contact my IF Dr. directly to request an additional blood test before 4/18, so I am going to call again on Monday. I don't know how insurance works, but the DE coordinator suggested that I might have to pay out of pocket to request an additional blood test. :rolleyes: This is ridiculous. I guess I just feel that I deserve special priveleges. :princess: :heee:

I told my mom the news yesterday and of course, she was thrilled. I explained to her why I hadn't told her sooner (that I didn't want to be questioned for two weeks about how I was feeling and if I think I'm pregnant and asking questions like, shouldn't I be relaxing, etc). So, this was about 5:30pm by cell phone and she was just arriving to her destination and she said she'd call back. So she called back at about 8 and told me again how happy she will be praying that everything continues well and then she said, "Are you going to try to take it easy?" And that was when I exploded and said, "This is exactly what I'm talking about." :argue: But, I love my mother. I know she's just being her.

Kim

Moms. :rolleyes: As if "taking it easy" is going to make a difference one way or the other. I'm thrilled your numbers are going up and I'm hoping you get some extra betas to reassure you. You deserve it! :) The 18th will come before you know it but it seems so long when you're holding your breath the entire time. :)

Kim that is awesome! I know how you feel. It's so hard to just sit and do nothing when you are so used to being seen so often. I was pretty annoyed that I received nothing extra even though I had 6 losses. They still didn't do anything extra for me unless I had a problem. Pretty annoying with all you go thru you'd like others to take your history as seriously as you do. But I hope all goes well and you can talk your doctor into more tests. AS for your mom, don't you just hate that? i get that all the time when I say I'm cleaning out a closet I get the third degree about lifting things. Honestly people do you think we'd actually risk losing another baby? Heck no. I know what my limits are and I am very cautious of them. As I'm so sure you are. Hang in there. Hopefully she'll back off some.:)

Kim, I have lurked and followed your "story" for some time... and I just want to say CONGRATULATIONS! What wonderful news!!! :ura1: I am thrilled for you.

Kim - I'm so glad your 2nd beta was good!!! Sorry that your mom was a little annoying.

Amanda

I was able to schedule another blood test! :banana: Taking Suzi's recommendation :hug99: I scheduled it for a week after the last beta test. . .. .so it's on Friday 4/7. I hope that it all goes well. . .:crossfing, and if it does, I think it should hold me over until the U/S.

Andrea~I'm keeping my positive thoughts on you. :crossfing

Kim

Kim- I'm so happy your second beta came back high! I think it's a good idea to have a 3rd blood test, then you won't be stressing so much in the time btw the blood tests and the U/S! Anything to alleviate the stress!!!

Andrea- Only a few more days!! :crossfing:crossfing:crossfing:crossfing

My cycle was canceled yesterday because the follicles just didn't grow. By day 8, I still didn't have any follicles bigger than 8.5 mm so my doctor told me to stop with the stims. I don't know what my options are. I'll see my RE on the 21st, so we'll go from there.

Kristen :bighug: I am so sorry. Just so you know, I have also had cycles cancelled for non-response, it's POSSIBLE that you tapped into a bad natural cycle (since like sperm, eggs begin developing three months prior to the time they start to mature and grow follicles).

Of course it's possible that you won't get a better response a second time but I just wanted you to know that it IS possible to cancel for no response and then go on to have a better response/cycle.

:hug99:

Kim, glad you got the 3rd beta! :yippee: We can talk numbers when you get there!

Suzi-Thanks so much for the encouragement. I really was not prepared for this. I thought I'd at least get to the retrieval/transfer stage. I'm still hopeful, this was my first try and maybe my doctor will learn something from this cycle to make my next one successful!

Kristen, I am so sorry to hera your cycle got cancelled ... I know how that feels and its never easy :sadhug:. Like Suzi says, its possible to get cancelled for no reponse. Since it was your first time, your RE will also get more familiar with how you respond, and will perhaps recommend things a bit different for the next time around. Chin up and know that we are all here for you and I will be praying that soon you´ll be cycling again, sweetie :hug99:

Andrea, I have EVERYTHING crossed for your beta results :crossfing!!! Sending tons of sticky thoughts your way :bighug: :pray:

Kim, So happy to hear your beta keeps multiplying :clap: As to your mom... Mom will be Moms :rolleyes: but they love us so!!! Great you got a 3rd beta :pray: for those number to keep on the rise! :bighug:

Well, as to my latest news, AF came on Thursday :yippee:, so on Monday the 10th will be my big day to see if my procedures were successful for me to start my next cycle. Please send all your positive vibes :nod: and prayers for me to get good results then :crossfing...

Vyonne

Kristen-I'm so sorry they cancelled on you. Your right this being your first time that hopefully they learnt from it and you'll have a better responce next time. Big hug for you luv!

Kim-So happy for your second Beta! Things are going so good for you, I am jumping for joy for you, you deserve this!

Well we got home last night and we have been busy ever since! Our sewer was frozen, the cat wasnt eating well while we were gone, our 3 other embies didn't make it and it looks like DH will be going on strike and it couldnt have happened at a worse time! This morning I could take the wait any longer and we took a HPT.............(8dp3dt)..........

:jawdrop:

:victory: :bfp:

All the crappy stuff going on just doesnt matter any more! the 5 year wait is over!!!!

Well I gotta fly! Baby Dust wishes and Love~
Andrea

Vyonne-We were posting at the same time! I've got everything crossed for you Luv!!!!! Super big prayers and cycle vibes coming your way!!!! Thanks os much for you thoughts they mean the world!

Hugs and Love Andrea!

ANDREA!!!! :ura1: :ura1: OMG!!! Congratulations


Kim glad the second beta was a nice strong number and glad you will be getting another test just for peace of mind!!

Kristen, I'm sorry :hug99: I hope the meeting with the RE is a productive one

Things are moving along here E2 was 222 Sunday which the nurse seemed happy with so therefore I am happy. Been soaking my feet, taking my supplements and hoping! Friday I go for my lining check and ET is tentatively 4/12

ANDREA!!!
:bteddy: CONGRATULATIONS!!!:pteddy:

You're gonna be a mommy!! :woo:

Here's hoping good news comes in fours...I think I'm next for beta results!

Andrea, Congratulations! It just makes me so happy & hopeful to see all these BFP going on around here. (I'm hoping that its contagious!)

Kim -- I'm glad that you got the RE to do another beta. It is hard to go from all the bloodwork & monitoring you get with IVF to almost nothing.

Kristen -- I'm so sorry about your cancelled cycle. I had one last February for poor response. Once the RE changed my Lupron to the micro-dose, I had a much better response. I read your recent post about your FSH being 10, mine was 10 last month too & I had some of the same concerns as you. It sure is a bummer that you have to wait almost 3 weeks before you can talk to your doctor. I remember how frustrating that was.

Vyonne -- I hope everything goes well for you on Thursday & you get great news!

I go for my teaching visit on Wednesday & will be starting stims in a couple of weeks. The closer we get to starting, the more scatterbrained I get. I am going to be a basketcase by the time we get through this (though I will probably be too distracted to notice!)

Carla

CONGRATS ANDREA!!!

Amanda

Vyonne - I missed you before - please forgive me!! I am sending you tons of positive vibes that everything is a go on Monday!!!! :crossfing

:ura1: Andrea! Congratulations! I hope you, Kim and Angela are setting the trend and this thread can die out! :crossfing

Andrea- CONGRATULATIONS!!!:ura1::ura1::ura1::ura1:
You must be over the moon!
I really hope all the other stuff going on settles down soon so you can truly enjoy this wonderful news!!

Vyonne- I've got my fingers crossed that everything worked and you're back on track! Good luck on Thursday!

Judy- Your ET is right around the corner!! I didn't realize it was so soon!

Carla- It sounds like you're on your way!! Does your RE seem concerned that your FSH is 10? I'm wondering if my lack of response was because of my FSH or my ovarian surgeries and endo. I guess I won't know until I talk to my doctor. It is disappointing that she can't see me for three weeks!


Thank you all for your support and advice, it has really made my IVF cancellation a little easier knowing that you're all here for me!!!

Kristen, if it's any consolation, out of all six of my cycles (with the exception of not having any embryos to transfer last time), I think the cancellation for lack of response was the most difficult to deal with. Hang in there...someone else mentioned and it's true...even a cancelled cycle is diagnostic so the next time your treatment can be tweaked and improved.

:hug99:

Wow! Look at all the wonderful news in here!!

Kim, I am so happy you are doing well and that your levels are rising. Enjoy every minute. This is your time!
Andrea~~ Wow! Congrats! When is your official beta? A +++ at 8dp3dt is great news!

I am rooting for all of you. Judy and Suzi you 2 are next, then Kerri, Carla and Vyonne!! Hope I didn't miss anyone.

Sorry I dont pop in as often but I am thinking of all you and wishing nothing but strong healthy babies for all of us.

Kristen -- My RE isn't too concerned about the FSH, except that I am only 32, so now I hear the biological clock ticking louder than ever. I agree with what Suzi said, cancellation for poor response is one of the most frustrating outcomes of IVF. However, we did learn from that & the adjustments in my meds have improved my response. I hope that your RE has good insight into this cycle & has good recomendations for your next! Good luck with the waiting until your doctors appointment!

Andrea, Having everything crossed... worked :kiss: !!! I am so ecstatic for you sweetie :clap:!!! Thanks for your big prayers and cycle vibes for me... you are a sweetheart :hb: I will pray for things to start turning all great for you on the other issues.

C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S... YOU ARE PREGNANT!!!:rahrah::pteddy: :suck: :bteddy: :rahrah:

Carla, :wow: only a couple more weeks and you´ll start stims!!! All the best luck to you honey :crossfing My prayers and thoughts are with you:hug99: Thanks for your nice wishes on my RE check up that its probably taking place on Monday the 10th or Wednesday the 12th... it all depends on my last day of AF (its acting up a bit) :rolleyes:

Judy, You are forgiven :lol:... you are so sweet! Thanks for the tons of positive vibes... I NEED THEM!!! Things are really moving along for you... :wow: ET tentatively 4/12!!! My good thoughts, love and prayers your way :hug99:

Kristen, Thank you sweetie! I can´t wait to get back on track... with all the luck on this thread... I´d better hurry and hop on the wagon. Like Carla says: I hope its contageous :nod: :crossfing!!! The day with my RE will be either Monday or Wednesday next week. Hope you are feeling better and that soon you´ll get some answers from your RE to follow on the tracks again :kiss:

Ang, Thank you hon, we need all the rooting we can get :nod:. And how are the lovely twins behaving??? I send them warm thoughts and lots of good health! All my best to you :hug99:

Kim, Keep those numbers multiplying :ura1: hummmmmmmmmmmm, maybe another set of twins in our thread??? :akiss:

Suzi, I´m sure you´ll keep up the "Chain of Luck". My thoughs and prayers are with you, next on line :bighug: :pray:

I just love all the commotion :grouphugg

Vyonne

Kristen, I am so sorry that your cycle was cancelled. :hug99: Try not to be discouraged.

Andrea!!!! OMG!!! So happy for you :pteddy: :bteddy:

Hello to everyone!!

I am finally getting a refund from my RE - not all of the money but some.

Just when things are looking up DH has to go on furlow and will be out of work for 8 to 16 weeks. I am gathering my papers together to see if I qualify for the program.

Baby Dust to all!!!

New quarter...new thread (I must be slipping...I'm four days LATE!! :eek: :lol: )!

Come join me: IVF Buddies - Apr/May/Jun 2006 (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26988)