Question for those who used CIO/Jyll's sleeping techniques

[Shannon]

Question for those who used CIO/Jyll's sleeping techniques
<HR color=#9f80cf SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Parker will only fall asleep with the bottle or with the motion of the car. Nothing else will work except my husband bouncing him on his knee or sitting in a chair and bouncing him with my foot on his bouncer. He hates to be rocked. This past week he has been giving us a lot of trouble taking the bottle, and we finally figured it out that he does not like slow nipples anymore. He wants to have the fast ones, which he can't fall asleep using. http://www.ultimatebaby.com/images/smilies/banghead.gif

Also the poor kid will only sleep in his car seat or the bouncer. He HATES the crib!!!!

Well since we can't use the bottle anymore, we figured this might be a good time to transition him to his crib. (I have no problems with him co-sleeping with us, but he hates it, he will not lay down) I know there is going to be crying involved, he is a stubborn little guy.

So, my question is how long did they cry the first night you did it? Please tell me the honest truth. How did you keep yourself from going in the room?

Second, if they cry in the middle of the night for a bottle, did you get them up and give them a bottle and put them right back to bed and let them cry? Or did you try to not pick them up whatsoever?

I am completely confused what to do, but I really feel this is right for Parker. I have so many sleeping issues as an adult, and I really want him to be able to sleep well. I did not sleep through the night until I started kindergarden, and I don't want that to happen with him.

O' and I tried reading the book Baby Whisper and Parker is just not hungry when he wakes up from a nap, it is only right before he falls asleep. So, I dont think this book will work for us.

Ok..I lied, one more question. Do you follow the same routine for naps? or just let them nap whenever or wher ever they want? FYI.. Parker is almost five months.
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[cimberdog]

For us, we used the techniques in The Happiest Baby on the Block and Sam was sleeping through the night at 10 weeks. It changed when he started daycare and his routine was changed a lot, but the techniques are the same -

Swaddle
Shhhhh
Suck
Side or back
Darn if I can remember the last one!

Swaddling was about the only thing (along with a pacifier) that would out Sam to sleep. We also started out by shushing in his ear to get him relaxed, while he was swaddled, on his side in our arms. We always put him in his crib when he was drowsy, but not completely asleep. For awhile, we also used the Mama Bear, with the heartbeat sounds.

So, I would suggest trying to swaddle him, give him a paci (maybe try a different kind), rock with him while he's swaddled and on his side in your arms, and make shushing noises. If anything it should give him a sense of security and calm him to be put in the crib.

And when Sam does wake in the middle of the night (more like 6-9 months old), we never fed him anything. I truly believe if you start that, then you create a new habit.

[cimberdog]

And yes, we did follow the same routine with naps until Sam was older. At 5 months, your son probably won't stay swaddled for long - tey usually break out of it after they fall asleep. But I think if you swaddle while you transition to the crib, he would feel mroe secure. In addition, I forgot to mention that we also used a sleep positioner to keep Sam in the same spot as long as possible, while he was swaddled.

[ArtsyMom]

This is controversial but the only way we could get Joshua to sleep without being in the bouncer was to sleep on his tummy. This started at 3 months and he's been doing it (in his crib) every night since.

He still wakes up at night but has no problems going to sleep. I feed him in a chair in his room, burp him while he's drowsy but awake, put him in his crib on his tummy, pat his bum and sing for maybe 5 minutes tops and leave the room. He rarely cries at night but sometimes does at naps.

[Kris]

Adam has and does sleep on his belly since week 2 he so far sleeps through the night. I don't let him CIO at all and I personally wouldn't

[Faye]

I always rocked my daughter to sleep up until she finally got too big for it and it didn't work and then started laying down in bed with her at night to get her to go to sleep :) worked for us! I could never leave her alone to cry for one second, but that's just me. The same things do not work for everybody I guess.

[~Tara~]

For us, we used the techniques in The Happiest Baby on the Block and Sam was sleeping through the night at 10 weeks. It changed when he started daycare and his routine was changed a lot, but the techniques are the same -

Swaddle
Shhhhh
Suck
Side or back
Darn if I can remember the last one!


Swinging is the 5th one. And sometimes we had to do 4 out of the 5 of those to get Abby to calm down. LOL. That was until she was 4 months and she would self - soothe. Thank goodness!

Actually we used the Happiest Baby on the Block techniques in conjuction with the Baby Whisperer pick up / put down method - and were able to comfort Abby (not have her CIO) until she was calm enough to put herself to sleep. To this day she is an AWESOME sleeper and I attribute some of that to temperment but a lot of it to sticking with these techniques all along.

Of course we have rocked her when she needed it, but 90% of the time she ends up falling asleep on her own in the crib. I am another person who doesn't want to hear Abby screaming or crying so CIO wasn't appropriate for us.

[redhairedgirl]

So, my question is how long did they cry the first night you did it? Please tell me the honest truth. How did you keep yourself from going in the room?
Um, I believe that he cried for the first 40 minutes? We use 10 minutes out, then go in, pat him, shhh him, but do not pick him up. This was the method our pediatrician told us to try. How did I keep myself from going in? My husband and I sat on the couch, and I watched the clock.... I would sit there staring at it until it was time to go in. Sometimes, I put on headphones...

Second, if they cry in the middle of the night for a bottle, did you get them up and give them a bottle and put them right back to bed and let them cry? Or did you try to not pick them up whatsoever?
We would get him up and feed him. We usually found that he would fall asleep while eating at this point. So, there wasn't any crying after being fed.

I am completely confused what to do, but I really feel this is right for Parker. I have so many sleeping issues as an adult, and I really want him to be able to sleep well. I did not sleep through the night until I started kindergarden, and I don't want that to happen with him.
I am the exact same way. I have a horrible time putting myself to sleep. I figured anything was worth trying atleast once. It was getting to the point where it would take 2 hours to get Aiden to fall asleep. He would protest and cry anyways.... what would it hurt if he was crying in his crib? No, I don't feel it's abandonment, either. He was so darned tired he would cry in your arms. He just did not want to sleep. And I was at a point physically where I could not keep up with holding him and rocking, or walking with him all the time.

O' and I tried reading the book Baby Whisper and Parker is just not hungry when he wakes up from a nap, it is only right before he falls asleep. So, I dont think this book will work for us.
We have the exact same problem here.

Ok..I lied, one more question. Do you follow the same routine for naps? or just let them nap whenever or wher ever they want? FYI.. Parker is almost five months.
Yes, we followed the same routine for naps. We would put him in his crib when we would see that first yawn. (And still do). It was very hard when DH wasn't around. Heck, I'd be lying if I said it STILL isn't hard when DH isn't around. And there are times when the method will not work for us, like when Aiden has been teething. He wants to be held and comforted, and I do that instead. I'll rock him to sleep at that point. But, he does know how to put himself to sleep, and that is the main thing. Sometimes it's easy, and sometimes we have to re-train him because of teething or a cold, or something along those lines.

Oh, and everyone kept telling me "Read the Happiest Baby on the Block". You know, if I would've had the time to read, I wouldn't have made a quick question online. And NO ONE would tell me (at that time) what the heck the secret was!

Good luck! If you need more info just ask!

Mandy
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[tori lynne]

I followed Jill's sleep thread and it worked for us. It took 3 nights. I started to just put her to bed in her crib at the same time no matter what. She would cry but I would wait a few minutes and then just go in pat her or rub her belly and shhh shhh. Abby isn't a screamer so the crying wasn't that bad. Oh, and we also swaddled her.
After that we have always been able to put her to bed at her bed time even if she is awake and she goes to sleep! THANKYOU JILL!

As for naps, Abby is in daycare so she is adjusted to thier schedule.

She has recently started sleeping on her tummy and has now slept through the nigh 4 nights in a row.

It just take time a patients to figure out what will work for your child, since they are all so different!