We are about to start a new quarter...time for a new IVF thread!!

I will start with a recap of who's here and where they are in their cycles:

Suzi: Waiting for IVF #6, starts in May
Sarah: :bfp: 4/4, awaiting beta numbers!
Kimberly: completing testing/paperwork for DE IVF
Brenda: Stimming (with a GREAT lining!! :yippee: ) and approaching retrieval
Amanda: giving clomid a try
Angela: waiting for IF coverage in CT!! :lol:
Ana: :bfp: beta on 3/29 :yippee:
Pam: Due in October :yippee:

Here we go ladies...good luck to everyone!!! :aok:

I'm here!! Supporting and encouraging you all as we all try to have some babies! We are off to a good start with Ana and Sarah! Hopefully a lot more to come....


If IVF coverage for CT does not pass this year, we will most likely finance another IVF towards the end of the year or hopefully a miracle will happen. We will be up to our ears in debt but oh well... having a baby is the major priority right now. I just gotta keep on selling houses. hahah

I wonder if they would do another IUI for me?? Maybe using the repronex and timing it better as they know now about my egg quality and how I respond. I think I remember someone from UB who had an unsuccessful IVF then did and IUI and got PG. So maybe it is possible. Any thoughts ladies or am I just getting desperate?

Sorry, Angela...what is your dx again? I can scrounge up some info if you remind me of your history. :nod:

I'm back! We had a couple dozen eggs.... but 7 that were mature and normal with perfect spindles... (they have a special microscope that can see the inside of the egg)... They'll only try to fertilize those 7... so we'll find out tomorrow how it went :)

I'm sore... on pain meds... tired... blah...

I'm here to :rahrah: you gals on!

I'm here too!
Brenda, 7 is a lucky number! Take it easy!

Fingers crossed for the fert report Brenda!

Amanda

I have PCOS, Suzi. Maybe a small male factor. His counts and motility have fluctuated from one cycle to the next.

Great News Brenda! Rest up!

Yep, I'm here. :rolleyes: Sad to still be here, but glad to have cycle buddies like you ladies. :bighug:

Thanks Suzi for the update. That really helps.

Brenda~Awesome news Brenda. I wish you all the best on the Fertilization results. :thumbsup:
(they have a special microscope that can see the inside of the egg)...
I wish I had gone to NEMC earlier in my IF struggles. It's too late now. :blue: Oh well.

I'm almost there. . the last "test" I need to do is to have a sonohysteragram (sp?) It's scheduled for this Tuesday. I told the Dr. that I would need some sort of "pain killing" assistance for my HSG, because the prior two times were rough. He said he could do a sono instead of an HSG and that would be less painful. O.K. we'll have to see about that. :crazy:

Kimberly

Kim, are you going to NEMC now? Or did you decide to stay where you were? Good luck on Tuesday. I hope it's not a painful test.

I had a few sonohisterograms (I can't remember how to spell it either). It wasn't as intense as the hsg (though mine was not a bad experience other than when the woman putting in the speculum pinched me with her lengthy fingernails :rolleyes: ). For the sonowhateveritis, the most painful part was the insertion of the speculum (for me). The doc put in a thin tubelike thing to insert a small amount of saline & then did a transvaginal u/s. I think I took maybe 600-800 mg of Advil or similar painkiller. The doc didn't shoot the saline through my tubes or anything beyond my uterus. I'm not sure if things might be done any differently for you.

Kimberly, same here...I've had a few sonohysterograms and none have "hurt." My RE advises to take 2 motrin an hour or two before and that helps with the cramping. Good luck!!

Kimberly - I have also had a hysterosonogram. My HSG was AWFUL but the sonogram one wasn't painful at all. I had a little cramping afterwards (nothing terrible) and I "leaked" fluid all day which was weird and a little annoying.

Amanda

hi gals :)

We transferred TWO very nice embryos today. We ended up with 5 that fertilized.... then when they checked them today 3 of them had started to arrest because of fragmentation. So we made the decision to transfer the two good ones today!
They did look really good... both 4 cell (day 2) with less than 5% fragmentation.

So I guess now we just wait! *sigh*

Brenda, you know I'm praying my heart out!! :pray:

Brenda - Fingers crossed!

Amanda

Kim, are you going to NEMC now? Or did you decide to stay where you were? Good luck on Tuesday. I hope it's not a painful test.

Ana~In Jan. or Feb. I had seen Dr. Keefe at NEMC (for a second opinion) under the recommendation of Brenda. He was great, but he basically said the same stuff as my prior Dr. What did I expect really? :dunno: I come in to see him after having 7 failed IVFs and expected him to say something different or help me out. If I had gone to see him say, after my 2 or 3rd IVF, I think he may have been more willing to take me on as a patient. What Dr. Keefe was able to do was to make me feel O.K. about trying to donor egg option. So, I went back to my current Dr. and told him that I wanted to start the DE process.

Brenda~:crossfing :yippee:

OMG. Thank you ladies for those tips on my upcoming sono procedure. I was thinking about it on my drive into work today and getting all anxious. I threw up during my first HSG and for my second, the Dr. couldn't even get started without me yelling out in pain. She wound up giving me some sort of local anesthesia. . lidocane? (sp?) But it was a big hassle because she wasn't set up for it so it took a while with me laying there on the table before she could even begin the HSG. So, I'm going to load up on some Motrin and cross my fingers. :crossfing

Kimberly

Kimberly - I think you'll be fine. As I said, my HSG was one of the more painful experiences in my life but I didn't have a problem with the hysterosonogram at all.

Amanda

I lost the baby.... :(

:hug99:

Ana - I'm so sorry.

Amanda

I'm really sorry for your loss. I've been thinking about you a lot today :hug99:

Ana, I am so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Ana~I am so very, very sorry. :sadhug: :tear:

Kimberly

I am new at this. I have never posted on one of these but I read alot of them. I am particularly interested in BrenS's case...I have been reading everything since last August about you and we have alot in common. I have PCOS. dh and I did IVF & ICSI in feb and got really good embies(7 Blasts) and transfered one b/c I hyperstimulated and b/c my lining was very very thin(but I wanted to do it anyway). My lining was around 6.5 and 7 on the day of transfer(even though my estrogen was above 5000...that is what is so odd...it is like my lining and estrogen levels arent in tact!). It did work to our disbelief but then I miscarried a week later resulting in a chemical pregnancy.
We also discovered I have 2 mutations in my DNA that cause my blood to clot more than ususal so I was on heparin also(we didnt start the heparin until 2 days after the transfer when we found this out.)
Okay- sorry for rambling- here is my point. We are about to begin an FET and I am scared to death. We are skipping the patches and pills of estrace(estrodial...whatever) and doing the injections. BUt I am scared that my lining wont get thick.

BrenS-How did your lining get thick for this last IVF cycle?I just read that it was 10+?!

Am I confusing everyone? Sorry if I am. I am just trying to get this all out and I cant type worth a crap!!!!

I hope you all dont mind newbies coming in- I just have never read someone with a case sort of like mine.

I would appreciate any input you may have.

here is our fet protocol:
I dont have a period usually and my lining was so thin this last cycle that even if they gave me provera to start nothing would come out. and they cant give me BC pills b/c of my blood clotting factors. SO beginning April 19 we will start our lupron suppression for 10 days. (only 5 units I think) and then begin estradiol injections3x a week after that along with heparin injections 2x daily. plus one baby aspirin and 3 metformin and 1 folgard and 1 PNvitamin.
our projected transfer is around the 1st of June.

okay- I will shut up now-
e

Welcome egb77! :welcome: We're happy to have you here. This is a wonderful place for support with lots of knowledgeable women. However, I'm not one of them. :biggrin: Really, what I mean to say is that I can't answer your particular questions at this point. But Welcome anyway. :bighug: And best of luck to you.


I have a question regarding my sono today. :sad: I'm on CD12. From all accounts, it doesn't look as if I have ovulated at this point, but I'm just wondering, would you know if the sono would have any effect on trying to concieve? I would assume that having a sono after an embryo has implanted would be detriemental, but do you think there would be any issues if one has already ovulated but the embryo just hasn't reached the uterus yet? Just things I'm thinking about today to cause myself even more anixiety. :crazy:

Kimberly

HI EG!

I'll be honest... :lol: I did do something different this time... and I attribute my nice thick lining to that because it's the only thing I did differently. I have an herbalist friend who made up a tea.. a mixture of herbs that's meant to help thicken the uterus and strengthen it as well... I drank 3 cups a day from about 5 days before i started stimming... and stopped the day of retreival.

http://www.dreamsweet.com/

The tea is call "Fertilitea"...

Now I had trouble with the loose tea not straining right with a reguar teaball...
so I bought this little tea steaper/strainer that i found online and I use it now
for all of my teas. http://www.adagio.com/

It's the one on the front. Basically you just pour boiling water into it, put in a couple teaspoons of the tea... let steap for 10 minutes... then set the thing over a cup and it strains right into the cup. :)


That's REALLY the only thing I did differently this time.

Kimberly, I'm assuming the sono was the same one I had where they put fluid in there and look at the uterus?

If so..... that fluid also pushes thru the tubes like a HSG. They could tell my tubes were clear because the fluid was dumping into the cul-de-sacs. So if you DID ovulate and the egg was sitting in the tubes... chances are it was flushed :(

Do you ovulate early?

Do you ovulate early?

I've never ovulated this early! :scratch: I typically ovulate on CD14 or CD15. It's just that I've also been charting and my temperature went up this morning. :confused: I have been restless, thinking about my upcoming trip and a few other things going on in my life. :crazy: Perhaps that accounts for the temperature rise. I'm using OPKs and typically start at CD11 (which was yesterday) and haven't seen a surge. :dunno: I don't know what's going on with my body. :tearhair: Just another darn thing to make me crazy today. :silly:

Kimberly

:welcome: E!!!! We are always glad to have new people join in and don't worry, you weren't rambling a bit and I bet we all know exactly what you are talking about! Most of us have been here a while and know a thing or two (or ten!) about IVF. I'd venture to say that someone around here can answer just about any question you may have so don't hesitate to ask!

We are HAPPY to have you here and are praying for a SHORT stay!! :nod:

thanks everyone for being so nice. I think I will try the tea. Why not?! also- I am doing acupuncture once a week for a couple more weeks and then will probably start 2x a week once I start the estodial shots.

Bren- I was wondering where you are as far as this cylcle and also how many ivf's. iui's have you done? I should probably go back and read to understand a little more about everyone.

emily

emily... I'm currently 5 days past 2 day transfer... or 7DPO.

God.. I don't want to depress you with how many rounds I've done, but it's
awful.

I did 6 rounds of clomid.... didn't respond
3 IUI's
7 IVF's so far.
IVF #2 we had a chemical pregnancy
IVF #3 we did retreival and no transfer because I had excess bleeding
They froze all of the embryos.
IVF #4 was gonna be a frozen embryo cycle, but my lining never got over 4mm
so it was cancelled
IVF #5 was also a FET, but it was cancelled because my lining was too thin (5mm)
IVF #6.. I had changed doctors, and we tried again with my frozen embryos... but my lining again wouldn't budge over 6mm.

IVF #7... we did a fresh antagon cycle and surprisingly my lining was nice and thick and 11mm at transfer :)

Bren- another question for you-cause I am a little confused still? I forget all of the terms...so what days did you transfer the embies? You are not depressing me so dont worry:) I have a wonderful prayer group here with LOTS of infertility stories. I do wonder...have you always used antagon instead of lupron for suppresion? My doc prefers lupron obviously but I didnt know if maybe antagon is better for some people. I have been trying to research it. I will say a prayer for you.
So- are the docs surprised that your lining is plush now? It seems like a miracle. did you ever do accupunture? I think I am going to order the tea. why not?!
okay- too many questions. My accupunturist will love the fact that I am looking into herbal tea! she is all about herbs.
oh- one more question- when you did your fet's did you use the estodial pills/patches or injections?

okay- enough-

e

In past transfers.. we did day 3, but this time we did day 2. We started off with 7 good normal eggs... and went to 5 fertilized. then 3 were too fragmented and were arresting.... and the last 2 were perfect. So they went ahead and transferred the two.

I did Lupron for the first 2 IVFs.... and all of my embryos were very fragmented. They switched me to antagon, and that seems to create better quality eggs for me.
I like it because it's less shots... less migraines... less waiting.

I DID acupuncture for 2 IVF's... #2, & #3... and it really didn't help except to relax me a little bit. A bottle of wine does the same thing.. haha..

The doc couldn't believe it when they saw the ultrasound after 4 days on stims... my lining was up to 10.2... in fact... he had the ultrasound tech look at the lining again towards the end of the ultrasound just to double check. :lol: I told them about the tea and they said to keep doing whatever it was I was doing.

when I did my FET's.... I did estrace pills vaginally AND orally. I also did the maximum number of patches allowed at the same time. at one point I had 4 patches on at once. Side effects were horrible!

Bren-
you poor thing- my eggs were really good even with the lupron so "if it isn't broken don't fix it? huh?!" Our docs just seem to have defferent views on a few things I am assuming. For instance my doc will only freeze on day one or at Blast stage(day5or6). we have blasts that we will be transferring (hopefully transferring!!)at the beginning of june. I am hoping the tea will help my lining. does it have caffiene? dumb question- I am sure it is just all natural stuff. anyway- about how many cups will one order make? I am trying to figure out how much to order.
oh- one more thing- what stim drugs did you take(inject)? I took gonal-f.

e

Kimberly - Sorry that you're stressed and your cycle is a bit weird. Hopefully the temp rise was just stress!
Brenda - Fingers crossed!
E - Welcome! I also had a chemical pregnancy in March (after an FET). I did an antagon protocol for my original IVF but that was only b/c it's a shorter protocol than lupron and we had time constraints.

I seem to (finally) be in a 2ww. I left for Chicago on Sunday but now FF is giving me an O for Sunday so if that's real, I may have a chance. I'm not super optimistic b/c Oing on CD 33 isn't a good sign. So much for clomid! I was O'ing around now on my own... My DH wants me to get a 2nd opinion from an RE that he knows. We can't really do any "invasive" forms of IF treatment right (due to my job!) but maybe I should be on glucophage again...

Amanda

Well, I never wound up having my sono. I sort of wished I had just gotten it over with. So, I go in for my appointment yesterday. . .get undressed and everything and wait for the Dr. I said, "Let me just ask, if I've possibly ovulated, would this affect anything?" He said that my chances were low that this would have an affect since it's just saline, but that he would prefer I wasn't trying this month anyway. So, when he asked if I had intercourse and I said yes, he says, "Then let's not do it. I would feel absolutely horrible if you wound up getting pregnant and having another ectopic because of the fluid pushing it around." So that was that. I left and got a pedicure instead. :banana:

So the wierdest thing about it all is that I ovulated much earlier than usual. If I hadn't been both charting and using the OPK, I would have never known. I'm so glad that DH and I found some time for :sex: But what would cause me to ovulate so early? :confused: I hope this is not a sign of menopause. I ovulated late for my last cycle and I was on the Clomid for the Clomid Challenge. Go figure. :dunno:

This is a perfect time for me to go on vacation--because I'm driving myself crazy. I'm going to hop on that cruise ship on Friday and just forget about babymaking and drinking wheatgrass and eating nuts and lentils and just go and have a good time.

Kimberly

Amanda~I'm glad you're finally in your 2 week wait. Why can't this whole ovulation thing just be simple? :scratch:

Thanks Kimberly! Glad that you have a great vacation to distract you from the IF stress!

Amanda

Bren-
you poor thing- my eggs were really good even with the lupron so "if it isn't broken don't fix it? huh?!" Our docs just seem to have defferent views on a few things I am assuming. For instance my doc will only freeze on day one or at Blast stage(day5or6). we have blasts that we will be transferring (hopefully transferring!!)at the beginning of june. I am hoping the tea will help my lining. does it have caffiene? dumb question- I am sure it is just all natural stuff. anyway- about how many cups will one order make? I am trying to figure out how much to order.
oh- one more thing- what stim drugs did you take(inject)? I took gonal-f.

e



oh girl... you name the stim... I've been on it. :lol: Repronex, Follistim, Gonal-F. I'm sure there are more that i'm missing. :lol:

As for the tea, I do 2 teaspoons per 8 ounce cup... and a bag lasted about 3 weeks for me :)

Brenda, when are you testing?

I should prolly call and ask, huh? :lol:

wednesday

Brenda - How are you holding up?

Amanda

I'm doing ok...

Tuesday and wednesday I had weird feelings in the uterus like a butterfly flapping around... was on and off for a couple days. Nothing today..

Just really tired and have a sinus headache today.

My husband is coming home tomorrow and I can't wait!!

Good luck Brenda! I'm thinking of you.

I'm leaving on vacation. . .like in about 5 hrs. :eek: . :yippee: Will get back in touch with you all soon.

I wish all you ladies all the best!

Kimberly

Have a great trip Kimberly!
Brenda - I'm crossing all crossables and praying for you!

Amanda

Kimberly, have a great time!
Brenda, I'm praying that this is it!

Ana - How are you holding up? I'm thinking of you.

FF had given me an O but now my temp is back to baseline so I suspect it was just my trip to Chicago that made my temp go up. Tom has made me an appt with a new RE on May 2nd. We were both dissatisfied by our experience during my FET cycle so we'd at least like another opinion. Unfortunately, with me moving to Baltimore in mid-June, I'm not sure there's alot we can do right now but I might see if I should give glucophage another shot. I have refills for the clomid but I don't think I'll ever use that drug again! It obviously doesn't work for me.

Amanda

Amanda, have you thought about Femara (sp?)? I asked here about it about 2 months ago and no one knew anything. I did research and found several people who have tried it and it seems to get MUCH better reviews from women taking it. None of the nasty s/e you get with Clomid, POSSIBLY better efficacy...may be worth a shot???

Brenda, hope you are doing well - you are in my prayers daily! You gonna wait for Wed or test at home?

Amanda-
I have had a few friends latrisol(sp?). I think that is the same thing as femara. One has a healthy baby boy and one is on it right now. I can get more info if you want.
Supposedly the side effects don't last as long as clomid. It is actually a drug used with patients with breast cancer I believe- something about hormone therapy. Which is the base of all of these problems. So do you ovulate and you just can pin-point it or do you sometimes ovulate and sometimes not?

e

oops- I can't type worth a crap- I meant to say- I have some friends "on" latrisol...and "do you O and just 'CAN'T' pinpoint it?"

sorry

I wonder if latrisol is the same as femara. It's tamoxifen which is a drug used in breast cancer. It's definitely something I want to bring up when we see the new RE next month! Thank you for mentioning it!!!

Amanda

Amanda, yes Femara and Letrozole are the same. It has been used by REs for some time now maybe your center will use it? One of the geratest benefits is that unlike Clomid, s/e are over almost as soon as you quit using it (whereas with Clomid they can hang on for several months). Additionally, the s/e reported are MUCH less severe than Clomid and don't include the mood swings experienced with Clomid.

Brenda-

I just got my tea in the mail and it smells aweful. Is it that bad?

e

hi,

I don't think it's bad tasting at all. If you dont' like the taste... you can add honey or sugar to it.... or even mix with some mint tea that will alter the taste. I didn't mind the taste.. was cinnamon like to me. Of course I just GULPED 6 ounces 3-4 times a day.. :laugh:

Blood had been taken..... now just waiting. *sigh*

199


*faint*

OMG! I'm so happy for you!

:jawdrop: :jawdrop: OMG!!!! :jawdrop: :jawdrop:

Congratulations...MOMMY!!!!!!

Oh yeah...can I say - it's about freaking time??!! :lol2:

OMG I am seriously crying for you!!! :bawl: I am so happy for you and Glenn!!!! I've waited over 2 years to hear this news!! Congratulations Bren!!! :hug1:

and isn't 199 rather HIGH?!? :scratch: TWINS?!?!? :jump: :jump:

Yes, it is high but beta numbers are NOT very indicatve of number...that said, twins sure is possible! My beta was 168 10dp3dt and I had twins!

This link has general beta number info: http://www.advancedfertility.com/earlypre.htm

Still shaking. :lol:

Thanks all.

According to Suzi's post in my blog.. 146 is normal for twins... and I've seen anywhere from 150 to 226. Still. :faint: LOL

Oh.. and my due date... CHRISTMAS.

better get your shopping done early, like August :lol:

Congratulations, Brenda!!! :yippee:

Jennifer

Delurking to say...

Congrats Bren!!!! :woo: I hope you have a happy and healthy 9 months!!!!!!

better get your shopping done early, like August :lol:


:lol:

Oh if there's more than 1.. there will be NO shopping this year... and I want diapers for Christmas, Birthdays.. and every holiday for the next 2 years. :lol:

Coming out of th shadows to say CONGRATS Brenda :) What a wonderful success story!!! :)

OMG Brenda!
CONGRATS!!!!

Amanda

:lol:

and I want diapers for Christmas, Birthdays.. and every holiday for the next 2 years. :lol:

NO YOU DON'T!!! That baby (or babies) will get enough attention!!!! You deserve to get prizes that have NOTHING to do with baby - TRUST ME!! :lol:

Congrats Brenda! Happy and Healthy 9 months.

OMG! Congratulations!!! I'm so happy for you!

My beta at 16days past 5 day transfer waws 265. Singleton baby. No twins. My beta at around the same point last year was over 500...still singleton.

hmm.. 16dp5dt would be 21dpo, right? I'm at 12dp2dt... or 14DPO.

God this is so confusing. :lol:

Wait...I made an error. My beta was 16 days after my retrieval, not my transfer.
So...16 days past retrieval
11 days past transfer

So, I think that it was the equivalent of 16 dpo.

Geez...I'm confused, too. Where's Suzi?

Wait...I made an error. My beta was 16 days after my retrieval, not my transfer.
So...16 days past retrieval
11 days past transfer

So, I think that it was the equivalent of 16 dpo.

Geez...I'm confused, too. Where's Suzi?


:lol: I was wondering why they waited so long to Beta you... :lol:
actually I thought.. "why didn't they just let her start showing first?"

:lol:

:lol:

Brenda----I am just now chiming in- I am so excited for you!!!!! Keep us updated. I am confused on all this number stuff....but am trying to catch on.

oh- and I still haven't started drinking the tea- but after hearing this i think I will bathe in it! ha!

e

When's your next beta, Brenda???

Amanda

Tomorrow :)

Good luck!
Amanda

405!!!!


fuck. :lol:

Yay, Brenda! :woo: How's DH holding up? :lol:

He's in shock.

I told my mother last night... and her first words were..

"how did that happen?"

so I handed the phone to glenn, at which point he swore
we weren't even in the same room when it happened.

:lol:


He said.. "and as far as your father is concerned.. it was an immaculate conception"

Too funny Brenda!

Awesome beta! Woohoo!!!

So...what's next? Do you have another beta or go for an u/s?

No more betas.... ultrasound on May 2nd at 2:30.

HOORAY Brenda! Great news!!!

Amanda

That's wonderful Brenda! I'm so happy for you!

405!!!!


fuck. :lol:

I say it's twins. :lol:

I say it's twins. :lol:

:nod:

Brenda congratualtions!! :aok: (http://www.onceuponalife.com/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=131#)

I've been lurking here for a week or so having just started a cycle - my first after 3 unsucessful IUIs. I wondered if you ladies would mind me tagging along for this cycle? I'm doing the BCP now, have a sonohystogram on Monday and expect to start Lupron on 4/26.

Judy

Judy, we are GLAD to have you with us!!! WELCOME! Most of us have quite a bit of experience with IVF so if you have any questions, ask away - I'm use SOMEONE can answer!! Hope your stay here is a short one!!

:welcome:

Brenda ~ I'll be thinking about you on Monday!

Judy ~ Welcome to the group! Good luck with your IVF! :rahrah:

Welcome Judy!
Clomid was a big bust for me. No O. I'll start provera on Monday. I'm going to see the new RE on May 2nd.

Amanda

Awesome news Brenda!

Thanks all :) I'm still in shock, really. yesterday was spent either sleeping or trying to not throw up. If I didn't have this funky taste in my mouth, I think I'd be ok.

Go Brenda! Go Brenda!!!!

I am so happy for you... and the twins! :lol:

Terrific news Brenda! :jump: I can hardly wait until May 2nd! :)

One more week until your sono!

Amanda

I love coming back to this great news!!!! :yippee:

What incredibly, happy, thrilling, and awesome news this is!!! :banana: :bighug:

Kimberly

Thanks for the welcome everyone.

Brenda I hope the funky taste drops off!!

I notice a few of you are from MA, as am I - what clinic are you going to? I'm at BRSC. Dr Summers. I have a good friend IRL also there with Gladstein starting her cycle in a few weeks.

I had my sonohystagram yesterday - not as bad as I thought it would be, word is I have a pretty uterus :blush1: - lets just hope the embies think the same and want to stick around :thumbsup: I expect to start lupron tonight.

I am usually a very positive person - annoyingly so at times :tongue2: but I am finding myself waking up in the middle of the night afraid this isn't going to work and getting panicked. ugh.

Hang in there Judy...it's a roller coaster ride! :lol:

brenda- congrats!!!

judy- hang in there- the process is not nearly as bad as it seems(unless you hyperstim...which I did and it sucked!) but still- not too bad. Do they know what is wrong with you? I am about to do an FET after our last IVF didn't work. My friend gave me "Fertility for Dummies" which I feel I could write by now :) Anyway- I wish I would have had it before I did IVF. You should get it. It is an easy read...and walks you through EVERYTHING!

good luck!

e

Hello Ladies-



I new to this message board. We are currently in our test cycle. I have run into a roadblock concerning the thickening of my endometrium lining. I was taking 6 mg estradiol for a week, after a blood test, my RE upped my dosage to 8 mg. Had my second blood test this past Monday, along with my first ultrasound. My endo. was only 6 mm in depth (2mm shy of the optimal 8mm). I was given an 8mg injection of estradiol that morning and told to continue with the estradiol pills at 4 mg a day followed by a second estradiol shot three days later (tomorrow). I go in on Friday for my second ultrasound to measure my endo. I’m a little concerned. Has anyone else had problems developing a sufficient endo?



Thank you in advance for any advise you can give.



Kim in Cali.

I just read Brenda’s post about herbal tea. I just ordered it! I’m also thinking about going to see an herbalist… since I live in the Berkeley (California) area it should be easy to locate one. Open to recommendations though, if anyone knows of a good herbalist in the San Francisco Bay Area.



I’ll also let everyone know how my sonogram goes on Friday. Hopefully I thicken up by then!



Kim in Cali.

Kim-

I have the same lining problem. I am a little confused as to where you are treatment wise or are they just watching you and you havent done anything yet? I am about to do an FET with frozen embies and about to start estrogen injections. I pray that this works.During my last IVF my lining was about 6. I would love to know more about your situation and if you have anything else wrong or if that is the whole deal(I have PCOS and don't have a period and also a blood clotting disorder thing)

I also ordered the tea- my acupuncturist told me not to drink it until she looks at it b/c it might interfere with her treatments or something?! we will see- it smells aweful but I am willing to try ANYTHING!

emily

WELCOME Kim!! You came to the right place - Brenda was in your shoes (a few times over!) and she just got her BFP!! I look forward to getting to kow you and I hope your stay here is short and sweet!! :nod:

Welcome Kim!

Amanda

I'm all buckled in :thumbsup:

Emily - we are diagnosed with MF - so far all my tests look ok knock on wood but I hear that the first IVF cycle is also used for diagnostic use as well. It'd of course be fabulous if the first one worked, I'm just trying to temper my optomism with caution :awink:

Lupron is going fine - I have a bit of a headache but it might actually be alergies unrelated to the shots.

So ladies I have a question about bedrest - not prescribed by my clinic/Dr but I have heard it helps with sucess rates of implantation...anyone been put on BR after transfer?

Oh and another thing I heard on another board - fresh pinapple has an enzyme that helps implantation? Gonna ask my accu about that one!

Hope everyone is doing well!!!

Welcome Kim - wow I'm not the newbie anymore :awink:

Judy, we are also MF only (well, until I had my tubes removed from an ectopic, that is!). Our first cycle worked for our first baby but we've done 4 more for a second baby that have all been unsuccessful (not trying to scare you off! :lol: ).

Bedrest...ah, bedrest. Some swear by it, others think it's a crock. My center doesn't believe in it and their success rate is higher than any in the region - gotta think they're doing something right! :lol: We do retrieval and I stay slightly inverted for 20 minutes following. After transfer they ask you to relax for the rest of the day and the next day resume all normal activity, limiting any lifting to 20 pounds or less. I know several women who adhere to strict bedrest only to end up with BFN and others who resume normal activity immediately and get a BFP. Kinda like embryo quality - it seems like it SHOULD mean something but in reality, doesn't mean SQUAT!! :dunno:

Pineapple is a new one on me...never heard that! Can't imagine it does any harm. Does your RE use baby aspirin in her/his protocol? If not, that's probably the first thing I'd do.

It's GREAT to have some new gals around - so glad to have you here! :nod:

Wow--lots of activity around here. :yippee: Great news for Brenda and it's so nice to have some newcomers to the thread. :welcome: But as I always say, "I hope your stay is short and sweet."


I notice a few of you are from MA, as am I - what clinic are you going to? I'm at BRSC. Dr Summers. I have a good friend IRL also there with Gladstein starting her cycle in a few weeks.

I had my sonohystagram yesterday - not as bad as I thought it would be, word is I have a pretty uterus :blush1: - lets just hope the embies think the same and want to stick around :thumbsup: I expect to start lupron tonight.

I am usually a very positive person - annoyingly so at times :tongue2: but I am finding myself waking up in the middle of the night afraid this isn't going to work and getting panicked. ugh.

Judy~I had been going to Boston IVF. Well, I guess you could say that I still am really. After my 7th IVF, they basically told me, "No more" :blue:. I'm still with them because I'm now going the donor egg route, but for all my IVFs, but I really wish I had been at NEMC where Brenda and Ana were. I actually have a sono coming up on May 5th (one of the requirements to prepare for donor egg) and I've been so nervous. It was great to hear that it wasn't as bad as you thought it would be. And I think being positive is a good thing! :thumbsup: Also, I did also hear that thing about pineapple. I've had myself on a "fertility" diet for almost a year and pineapple is included. It's my daily afternoon snack. Of course, I can't totally vouch for the fact that it helps with implantation. . .it hasn't helped me yet, but I can sure the heck keep trying. It's not like pineapple is bad for you.

I’m also thinking about going to see an herbalist… since I live in the Berkeley (California) area it should be easy to locate one. Open to recommendations though, if anyone knows of a good herbalist in the San Francisco Bay Area.

I’ll also let everyone know how my sonogram goes on Friday. Hopefully I thicken up by then!

Kim~Isn't that like locating a cowboy in Texas? :lol: My brother lives in Berkeley and I can only imagine that if you're looking for an herbalist, more than anywhere else in the U.S., Berkeley (or even in San Francisco's ChinaTown) would be the place to go. I got my nose pierced last summer in Telegraph and I'm 40. It was just the hippest, coolest, place and I guess I got drawn in! :biggrin:

Updates from me: I let everything go when I went on my cruise. I was traveling with family and friends and just wanted to have a good time. Forget all the fertility diet stuff. I ate whatever I wanted, in quantity no less as you can imagine. I was post ovulation when I went and even had wine with dinner a few times because at this point in my journey, I feel like that's the least of my problems. This always happens when I get back from a vacation, but I got a little depressed. . .withdrawal symptoms if you will. I went from the hot and sunny Carribean to cold and rainy Boston. Then, on Monday AF arrives. :furious: I don't know what happened to me but all of a sudden I got really negative and started to wonder what the hell the use is of having faith and being positive when I've been doing this for so long and trying so damn hard. I was crying a lot. I called my acupuncturist and told her that I wasn't sure that I would continue treatment because I was spending a lot of money and I just wasn't sure it was going to work for me. She called me back and was really nice and said that I should do what feels best and that the last thing she wants is for acupunture treatments to stress me out, but that she is confident that I'll continue to show improvements if I do want to continue--either with the herbs or acupuncture or both. So basically, I decided to continue with the herbs and instead of going to acu once a week, I'd go twice a cycle. Once before ovulation and once after ovulation. As it is, she is charging me a very reduced price and having DH come with me for treatments for free! Basically, I do trust her and know that she finds this almost as frustrating as I do. I do feel like she's on my side and well do anything she can to make this work. Mind you, I know I still have the DE procedure lurking in the background. I just keep hoping that I will concieve on my own beforehand. But the most interesting thing is the dream I had last night. I dreamt that I was about 4 months pregnant. It was so clear and vivid. I was on a bus (don't ask me why). Like a Greyhound or something and I woke up and realized that I was pregnant. I could look at myself in the dream and I was looking at my tummy and I was so completely thrilled and satisfied thinking that I was finally pregnant. The only thing was, I was telling people on the bus that I was just finding out that I was pregnant and that I must have either woken up out of a long sleep or somehow lost my memory for the last 3 months. :dunno: Totally weird, but that was the sign I needed to get back up and tell myself that I need to stay positive and to keep my eyes on the prize.

Kimberly

Kimberly- good for you. hang in there. Infertility is so hard on you and when you are doing all of these treatments you(we) get so wrapped up in it that we forget to live sometimes. It is like you don't wish this on your worst enemy but you do sometimes wish others could understand and feel what you are going through. And on top of it all you are pumped full of hormones and half the time you dont even feel like yourself. All I can say (and I have to repeat this over and over to myself) keep your head up...literally!!! If one day is bad tomorrow the next will be a better one.

Judy- I may be an idiot but what is MF? As far as bed rest my dr is for it. I rested 3 days(well- really 2 b/c on the 3rd day I was in the hospital with hyperstimulation)and suzi suggested baby aspirin which I totally agree with. it helps the meds get through your blood b/c it is a MILD blood thinner.
As far as IVF and the 1st time being diagnostic or whatever...keep your head up- I have a few friends who got pregnant on the first try and with more than one.

oh and Kimberly- what is the fertility diet. I need it.

e

Judy - I didn't do bedrest. I took it easy the day of the transfer and that was it. I got PG on my 1st IVF cycle but then had a chemical pregnancy when we did a FET for #2. I never took aspirin.
Kimberly - Glad the cruise was good. Sorry you're feeling down. This is such a process!

Amanda

Kimberly- good for you. hang in there. Infertility is so hard on you and when you are doing all of these treatments you(we) get so wrapped up in it that we forget to live sometimes. It is like you don't wish this on your worst enemy but you do sometimes wish others could understand and feel what you are going through. And on top of it all you are pumped full of hormones and half the time you dont even feel like yourself. All I can say (and I have to repeat this over and over to myself) keep your head up...literally!!! If one day is bad tomorrow the next will be a better one.

oh and Kimberly- what is the fertility diet. I need it.

e

Thanks for your pep talk. :) As far as diet goes, there are several books on the market and actually some are very different from others. I.e. While same say stay away from milk, other books may encourage it. I've read several books and articles, and kind of put together my own diet. . .doing what I thought I was capable of doing as far as food is concerned. I can certainly reccommend books, but in brief:

A shot of wheatgrass daily
Green powder (Chorella, barley, kelp, etc) daily with water
4 grams of L'arginine
Royal Jelly
B6 & B12
Flax Seed Oil
Co Q10
Prenatals
Buy organic vegetables and meat w/o hormones
No dairy
Some soy, but not a lot
Organic Yams several times pre-O
No sugars, sweeteners
Nuts such as pumpkins and sunflower seeds (organic)
Pineapple (daily)
Herbs from my accupunturists
Increase in Lentils, Salmon (wild), cruciferous vegetables
No alcohol

There's more, but I should mention that as much as I try, I'm not always perfect. I do go out to eat every once in a while and I'm fully aware that these restaurants are not buying organic. I do have some sugar because I crave things like Swedish Fish and will indulge when I'm at the movies, plus I won't refuse a piece of chocolate cake when I'm celebrating someone's birthday. So, I try as best as I can, but I also want to live and enjoy my life at the same time. Like I said, I went crazy during the cruise and ate, and ate and ate, and ate, and ate.

Kimberly

I don't think there is any way I can do that. I am not very disciplined! and I am a chocoholic! but thanks for sharing! I am trying to eat better....:)

e

Wow Kimberly! You're a very disciplined person!!!
I have an appt with the new RE on Monday. Other than that, I'm still wallowing in self-pity...

Amanda

Seriously Kimberly... I don't think I can give up the sweets. :lol:

Welcome Kim!!!

I did bedrest for every other cycle except for this past one.. for this one
I rested for the rest of the day on transfer, then went on about my
life. Actually I was sick of being in bed and couldn't take it anymore. :lol:



I had a scare tonight. Started bleeding mid afternoon.. bright red. So I called Dr. Lahwani and she told me go to the ER. So I spent most of the evening there. They put in an IV, ran some blood tests, gave me a pelvic exam and took some swabs.

They couldn't find where the bleeding was coming from, but it had stopped and turned to brown by then. HCG came back high, and i tested rH+ so good news there. They did a pelvic u/s and didn't see anything... so they did a transvag...
and there were two sacs. They were in the right place.. up in the top part of the uterus and nowhere near the cervix.

Basically I have to stay off my feet and go back to my regular appointment on
Monday... where I'll get another U/S.

Here's the picture of the ultrasound

http://www.cest-bon.com/wedding/us1.jpg

Two! Yay! Congratulations!
I hope things go more smoothly from now on.

Kim :hug99:

Brenda! Two! Can I say from personal experience that twins are great! :nod: And it is better that nowadays Mom knows before they hand them to her in the hospital! Bit of a shock for my Mom. :lol:

Yay Brenda! I'm so happy for you!

Congrats x2 Brenda :) Hope that was the last of any "issues" for 9 months for you and the babieS :)

HOORAY for twins! Glad everything's ok.

Amanda

Brenda sorry about the scare but so happy to hear there are two in there! How exciting!! Your head must be spinning!!!

Brenda congrats on your 2!!! :)

Thank you! We saw two heartbeats this afternoon! Was amazing!!!

Thank you! We saw two heartbeats this afternoon! Was amazing!!!

Wow! Just incredible. :bighug:

Kimberly

HOORAY for 2 heartbeats.

The good news is that I had a GREAT appt today! I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this new doctor! And for many of the same reasons that I had problems with my old place. He totally believes in individualizing care. You're not just on some protocol. He makes ALL the decisions about your cycle. And he had several question marks about some of the things that were done to me in the past (the same ones I had, too). He's willing to work around my schedule, too. His office staff is nice and friendly. It's also a bit closer to work than the old place.
Here's the plan: I'm starting femara on CD 3 (Wednesday night). I take femara CD 3-7. Monday I go in for a sono. If I'm not making adequate follicles, we'll add injections. Then I'll do a trigger shot and an IUI.
I'm actually feeling positive about this!

Amanda

Brenda, I'm so happy for you! Two babies! So, can I have one? :lol:

Amanda, I'm glad you like your new doctor. I hope everything works out for you this cycle!

Absolutely... :lol:

Thanks! You're the best! :lol:

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this new doctor! And for many of the same reasons that I had problems with my old place. He totally believes in individualizing care. You're not just on some protocol. He makes ALL the decisions about your cycle. And he had several question marks about some of the things that were done to me in the past (the same ones I had, too). He's willing to work around my schedule, too. His office staff is nice and friendly. It's also a bit closer to work than the old place.
Amanda

That's great Amanda. :clap: That is so important. I know there's no turning back for me now. . :mad: but I still wish that I had tried harder to find a Dr. that I really liked and trusted.

Thanks Kimberly! We went out-of-network so this may cost more but it's totally worth it for some peace of mind.
Brenda - How are you holding up?

Amanda

Hi - I'm new this this thread. Is anyone going thru an FET this month?

I am going through my protocol right now. I was on Lupron 5U for 2 weeks and then Tuesday I started my estrodial shots plus 2.5 U Lupron(plus 2 shots of heparin a day) I have pcos, a blood clotting disorder and For some reason I have a thing lining. We are hoping my lining will thicken this time. I also do acupunture.

e

Hoping4 - Welcome. We did an FET in February. Good luck!
E - Fingers crossed!

Amanda

Amanda, That's wonderful that you found a new doc who's willing to take you into consideration. That's exactly why I changed to NEMC.

I'm doing ok. Tired ALL THE TIME. Haven't been sick much, mostly at night I get a little nausious. Peeing all freakin' night too. :lol:

Thanks Brenda! Glad you're doing ok.

A quick question. I may have to pay for my injectibles meds. Where's the best place to buy them?

Amanda

egb77 - I'm doing acupuncture too. Started about a month ago. How long have you been going? Do you notice any difference?

shwanda - thanks! How did your FET go?

What is different (besides not doing stim) with the FET? Our RE said we could do the transfer whenever we wanted. Don't they have to do ultrasounds to check lining first?
I'm not quite sure what to expect with this. We only have 2 embryos and I'm hoping we don't lose them during thaw.

hoping4-
hmmm...Our fet is actually around 6 wks long. Basically you are just taking estrogen, doing estorgen patches or doing estorgen shots in place of the gonadotropins. this si to thicken your lining. I dont have cycles so maybe if I did it would be different, but the have to supress you some how (with lupron) or something so they have control.

I have done AP about 7 times so far- i am about to double up these next few weeks and we will so. physically I cant tell a difference. When will you start your fet?

When did you do your last ivf?

amanda- I get my meds from Schrafts pharmacey. the are a phone order pharmacey- not sure where from but they are fast!

e

sorry girls my typing sucks!

Hoping4 - Our FET protocol was estrogen injections twice a week. The checked blood levels twice a week. After 4 injections I had a sono to check lining. Then I added daily progesterone injections. The transfer was 4 days later. Our embryos did not do well during the thaw process. We started with six 8-celled and one 4-celled embryo and ended with two 2-celled embryos.

E - Thanks for the info.

Amanda

Amanda, I get mine from Village Pharmacy. They are really great there and I think cheaper than a lot of other fertility pharmacies. I don't know that for sure though because my meds are covered. If you need numbers for them, I can PM you.

A quick question. I may have to pay for my injectibles meds. Where's the best place to buy them?

Amanda
The best place to get fertility meds in the US is Freedom Drug (the money has been coming out of my pocket for a long time...I ought to know!). If you want to go out of country (same drugs, same manufacturers) you can get even cheaper prices from www.IVFmeds.com (http://www.ivfmeds.com/). If you want even cheaper you can go on Fertilitext.org (http://www.fertilitext.org/ubbcgi/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=At+The+Pharmacy+-+General+Issues&number=3&DaysPrune=1000&LastLogin=) and buy drugs for about 1/3 the cost at the pharmacy. This is a place where people sell their extra drugs - all of it brand new. I have bought them there before - and will be buying the drugs for my upcoming IVF soon. I haven't had any trouble at all - and saved myself a WHOPPING $2,000!!! :aok:

Thanks ladies! I knew I'd get good answers here. It turns out that our local pharmacy specializes in IVF meds for excellent prices!

Amanda

egb77 -
My last IVF (which was #1) was on March 2. We had our followup w/ RE on March 17 and he said we could do the FET next cycle in April. I wasn't up for it though and decided to take a little break and wanted to have enough time too in between to get going w/ the acupuncture.

I started the AP w/ 3 times a week (first day was March 24). As of 2 weeks ago am going twice a week. I really like it (except for the needle in the ear....that hurts going in!). I could tell a difference after the first time (was very energized), but seem to be mellowing out now (which is good for me).

So looks like we'll actually be starting up again to do the FET. Should be calling the RE's office sometime next week.

I'll be back on the estridol pills and progesterone shots as well as something new anaprox (sp).

Amanda -
Thanks for the info...have a little more to go by now on what to expect. The two embryos we have left are 8 cell. Guess we'll find out soon enough if they survive thaw.

E - That's great! I hope you embryos do well!!!

I should be getting my meds by this afternoon!

Amanda

Hi all, just wanted to update, my supression check was friday and we got the go ahead to start stims so we did last night :thumbsup: I am now officially a bundle of nerves, excited/scared/happy/anxious :crazy: I next go for bloods only on Tuesday am then get new instructions from there.

Any idea about how long between starting Stims and ER? I'm trying to concoct a plan for work...I'm guessing 8-12 days?

Judy, stims are TYPICALLY 10-12 days. That said I have stimmed for 18 days before so it's hard telling. It will be much easier to tell when you have a follie check and E2 on day 6. Good luck!! :aok:

Hi ladies. :wavey:

Just an update: I've finished all my required tests and now all my paperwork is on it's way to the donor coordinator within the IVF clinic. They will call me, (which I hate, 'cause I'm impatient) but I hope to hear from them within the next two weeks. My sono was a breeze! :yippee: With Suzi's suggestion, I did load up on the ibupropen. Thanks for the great tip. :thumbsup:

I have a friend who was having trouble concieving and we had "cried" together about it on several occasions. I lost touch with her because she moved. Since I hadn't spoken to her in a while, I thought I'd call her and tell her about my decision to use a donor egg thinking that maybe that would be a good option for her. So I'm on the phone, chit chatting away, going into my story about why I made the decision I did and so on. She stops me short all of a sudden and says, "Kim, I'm pregnant and I used a donor egg." :jawdrop: It was quite humorous because then she started giving me all these names of people I should talk to and which agencies are the best and so on. We basically finished up the conversation by me telling her that I guess I'd be calling her for advice! :) The end result is that I felt even more satisfied with my decision to go this route. :nod:

Kimberly

Oh Kim!!! Don't you LOVE it when the decisions you struggle with are confirmed??! It sounds to me like it was NO accident that you felt the need to reconnect with your friend! How exciting!!! :yippee:

We are hanging in there. I was in Denver over last weekend and ended up sick with strep AGAIN. I had to see a doc in Denver and now I'm on levaquin. The doctor I saw told me (as I have been told before) that I am probably going to continue to get strep until I have my tonsils removed. Freaking beautiful. I had only been off antibiotics for five weeks before I picked up strep again... Chris and I are going to have to discuss me having my tonsils out before we do another IVF cycle. I talked to the IVF coordinator at my center and she said I can still participate in this IVF cycle if I choose to (for July retrieval). I hate the thought of waiting - the older Julia gets the more I question having a second child. Julia is SO easy now and a baby is such HARD WORK...but in my mind, a sibling for Julia is the best thing for her (I am *kinda* an only and it is not something I want to pass on to Julia). *sigh* I wish IVF weren't a part of my life...

(humph...I guess I am feeling a little sorry for myself today, huh?) :dunno:

you're entitled. :bighug:

Kim - I'm so happy for you!!!
Suzi - Sorry to hear you're having a rough time.

My appt wasn't great. My estrogen levels were still low. I had the same old "polycystic" response. Lots of small follicles but nothing big (there was one follicle which was almost 8mm). I started the injections tonight. Wednesday I get bloodwork and Friday bloodwork and sono.

Amanda

PS I know I'm not doing IVF this cycle but I don't know anyone else who understands injectibles so I hope you don't mind me hanging out here!

I know I'm not doing IVF this cycle but I don't know anyone else who understands injectibles so I hope you don't mind me hanging out here!

Ummm...OF COURSE you can be here just the same as any of us!! :nod:

Sorry for the poor response, I know how that feels. Hang in there...it may just get better yet! :pray:

Oh Kim!!! Don't you LOVE it when the decisions you struggle with are confirmed??! It sounds to me like it was NO accident that you felt the need to reconnect with your friend! How exciting!!! :yippee:

Suzi~You know what? You're absolutely right! :nod: And it was interesting because my friend was telling me how important it was to her that I called because she knew she would have to tell me (when I called her she had only found out she was pregnant about 2 weeks prior) and she didn't know how she was going to do it. She said that she was so happy that we would be on this journey together and that she'll never forget the first time we "talked" and I confided in her and she in me. (She found out within her first 6 months of marriage that she was going into ovarian failure and adoption was not an option for her husband). I remember her being completely heartbroken, and unlike myself, she is one of those women who grew up imagining herself with lots of children.

I'm so sorry that you're having such a rough time right now. :sadhug: That just stinks! Are you more suseptible to strep than other people? I remember when I was little, my mom told me I was a strep throat carrier. . .which basically meant that I would never actually get it really badly, but half of my classroom would be out of school because I would give it to everyone. :blush1: Like Brenda said, you're entitled to feel sorry for yourself.

PS I know I'm not doing IVF this cycle but I don't know anyone else who understands injectibles so I hope you don't mind me hanging out here! What are you talking about??? Even if you came here for one cycle, you would always deserve to "hang out" here. In other words, once you're in, there's no turning back. :awink: :lol:

Kimberly

Thanks Suzi!
I took my injection tonight. I'm using menopur which is apparently new (and therefore extra-expensive which stinks since my insurance will no longer cover my meds). It's FSH and LH but it's more highly purified than the others so it's supposed to have fewer reactions. I only took Gonal F in the past (which is just FSH) so we'll see how this goes. I'm taking 2 vials per night for tonight and tomorrow night and then re-check estradiol on Wednesday (today it was less than 20). I'm worried that I'm having a PCOS response. What's happened in the past is that I "recruit" alot of follicles instead of having any get big. The last time this happend, my cycle was cancelled since I ended up with 20 follicles (great for IVF but terrible for IUI). UGH. I'm feeling a bit frustrated with my body for not making this easier! I hate that we have to do this again and that it's costing so much.

Amanda

What a great connection to your friend Kim!!!

Amanda - hope today has a good number for you.

Suzi - I am sorry about the strep! That stinks. Are you feeling better?


Ok ladies, I have more questions now. Primarily is it possible to stim too quickly? I did my last BCP 5/1, started Stims (Follistim) on Friday 5/6 on Tuesday 5/10 - E2 was 438 - nurse said I was responding very well but they wanted me back again today for u/s and more bloods since the level was so high.

Today.. 5 days after starting Stims, I have 10 measurable follies 10 - 15 - mostly around 11/12.

Is this too fast? I've heard that if you stim to quickly you can have poor egg quality or they might cancell your cycle.

What size do they usually trigger at?
ugh..I should probably just wait for the nurse to call but I think I have to obsess first

Judy, you are responding well but not out of the ballpark for what I know others do. You may back off a bit on your stims like PCOS women do and coast a bit to trigger, maybe not. They are looking to get the biggest cohort group of follicles to between 18-21 so you still have a few days left and all I ever stim is 10 days, so you are right on target for about that! Sounds good to me!! :aok:

And I am feeling 100% now...let's just see what happens when I quit taking the antibiotics... :rolleyes: Thanks for asking! :biggrin:

Judy - Let us know what they say! Suzi knows more about this than anyone I know.
Suzi - I hope you stay strep-free.

I'm waiting for my E2 levels to come back. They'll probably cut me back to one vial per day.

Amanda

JUDY-I stimmed for more than 10 days b/c my lining was thin and they wanted to see if it would thicken. It didn't, but I have pcos so I am probably not the same as you...I had about 35 eggs the day of retrieval! that is ALOT so I was lucky. Never heard of stimming too fast though. and I ended up with 6 blasts!

Also- I know Brenda told us about the FERTILITEA but who else was it that wanted it? I have a whole bag that I CANNOT drink b/c of the AWEFUL smell! BRENDA you are amazing me by drinking that. Every time I smell it I GAG! so if you want mine I will be glad to send it to you:)!!!

Brenda- while I am on this lining subject, We are doing our FET protocol right now. I was on lupron for 2wks and then began estradil shots last week. I went to the doc MOnday for my first US after being on the estradiol for 1 week(2 days of shots)..it was 6.9..... Is this good for the first week? During my IVF last time it was that on the day of transfer so I am thinking that this is good for an FET? It was a triple layer so I know that is good.
What do you think?What was your on your first check during your fet's?

e

My E2 is still only 30. I'm never had this problem before. Still on 2 amps per night of menopur.
E - They only checked my lining once during my FET protocol and that was after 2 weeks of injections.

Amanda

E: I just was at a meeting with my RE last night who happened to say they shoot for a lining at least 8-9 mm for transfer with FET. He also mentioned that with FET they do estradiol for anywhere from 2-6 weeks prior to an FET to get the lining they are looking for. Given where you are, I'd say that you are right on target! :aok:

Amanda...wow! I had a rotten cycle before and had to drop. Crazy thing is my next cycle was back to normal and we never had any explanation as to why the freak cycle. :dunno:

Suzi - This just sucks. Especially since we're paying out-of-pocket this cycle. I'm day 10 today but I've only been on 2 nights of injections since we tried the femara 1st. I'm sure the femara is delaying things a bit and I really just started the injections. Normally, I'd do 5 days of injections before checking levels (if we had started injections on day 3). Hopefully, things will look better on Friday.

Amanda

Isn't nice having Suzi around for all this great information?? :nod: :awink:

I know Brenda told us about the FERTILITEA but who else was it that wanted it? I have a whole bag that I CANNOT drink b/c of the AWEFUL smell! BRENDA you are amazing me by drinking that. Every time I smell it I GAG! so if you want mine I will be glad to send it to you.

egb77~Mmmm. Would you by any chance know what's in it? My acupuncturist has been giving me an herbal concoction and I totally trust her knowledge in these herbs. However, the Fertilitea interests me (trust me, I've gotten used to these teas) and so depending on the ingredients, I just may be interested in purchasing. . . .afterall, look at what happened to Brenda! :awink:

It started out being just a rotten day and then got a bit better. :crazy: I was walking to this place I like to pick up lunch that is only 5 mintues away from where I work and can you believe I ran into two women who I know quite well who passed by me who were pregnant. Our company is about 900 people and one woman, I talk to on the phone all the time but I guess I just don't see her in the hallways too much. The other woman is a woman who I know even better and we've had several IF discussions because she had trouble concieving her first and was on Clomid and had several IUI's before getting pregnant. Anyway, when I saw the first woman, I just waved and said Hi instead of doing what may have been more appropriate and congratulated her. I was obsessing about it with my head in my hands and then I run into the second woman (my closer friend). She was with other people, but she waved at me as if to say, "Oh God, I didn't mean to run into you and I'm sorry I didn't tell you I was pregnant." Anyway, I just wanted to cry. :banghead: I spent the next hour of work trying to figure out if and when I could leave. . .would I have to fake an illness or should I just take off saying that I have an emergency? As soon as I was ready to break out of there, I got a call from the IVF clinic saying that they have all my tests and I just need to make a followup appointment with my Dr. and also call the Social Worker to set up an appointment. I felt better after that, realizing that things with this donor stuff is moving along more quickly than I thought it would. :thumbsup:

And the saga continues.

Kimberly

Kimberly- isn't that the worst?! I swear I think I am going to take out an ad in the paper that says "If you would like to get pregnant please just become my friend and I can almost GUARANTEE a pregnancy!!!!" Just hang in there!

also, the tea is from a website that brenda told me about on this thread...you could probably go back and find it...maybe 3 or 4? anyway the ingredients are:
wild yam
licorice
sassafrass
vitex
dong quai(this is what smells so bad!)
ginger
cinnamon
dandelioon
orange peel

My AP gave me pills to take instead...12 a day! yuck! but anything is better than this smell! anyway-if you want it I will be glad to mail it to you. just give me your email address and I will email you and get your info.

Suzi- thanks for the words of wisdon...b/c I have this whole thin lining thing my doc has me on a special protocol that lets me have an US every week instead of every 2. anyway- I hope you are right about 6.9 being good this first time. I go back Monday at 7:30 and will let yall know what it is.

I need a re-cap of where everyone is at this point....I still get confused......

and whoever out there is having to pay out of pocket...I feel your pain. we have been since day 1. The total makes me sick. But hopefully it will all be worth it!!! I think we may should move to a state where it is mandatory for insurance to pay!(I live in the SOUTH!)

e

I need a re-cap of where everyone is at this point....I still get confused......

Ask and ye shall receive...

Suzi: Waiting for IVF #6, POSSIBLY starts in May (depending on tonsil surgery)
Sarah: taking a break
Kimberly: just completed testing/paperwork for DE IVF
Brenda: :bfp: X 2 :yippee:
Amanda: currently on stims (new RE and protocol)
Angela: waiting for IF coverage in CT!! :lol:
Pam: Due in October :yippee:
Judy (bloom): currently on stims
E: FET preparation
Hoping4: FET preparation
Kim Cali: in a test cycle at last update (4/27)

thanks suzi!

Suzi - You're a goddess! I hope the stuff with your tonsils gets resolved.
Kimberly - Sorry about the bad day. I seem to have a pregnancy-inducing effect on those around me, too.
E - Fingers crossed!

I hate these off days. I almost wish I had to get blood drawn every day so I'd know what's going on.

Amanda

Amanda I totally agree about blood drawn every day - I'm glad I am not alone! I'm sorry about the response - could it be that this new med stims much slower? I hope you get numbers you are happy with on Friday! I'm new to all of this but do they usually check levels as early as you had them done?

e- good luck with the lining - hope Monday brings you good news!!

Kim - sorry about running into the women. It is really tough I'm glad your day took a more positive turn and the donor stuff is moving along quickly!

Suzi - thanks for the recap! It helps to see it all in one place! And thanks for the info on the E2 levels - you made me a lot less freaked about the whole thing!

The nurse called and confirmed what I saw on the u/s with the tech - 10 measurable follies and a bunch of smaller ones and an E2 of 651. They dropped my Follistim dosage and added Repronex to my med mix which has LH too and I believe is supposed to group the follies size wise more/ have more of them develop at the same rate. I go back tomorrow for another b/w/u/s visit but the nurse indicated we are probably looking at Monday/Tuesday for ER - man this is going quick! My head is spinning. I have a huge welt from the Repronex injection. I guess I have been pretty lucky with the other shots (read: have enough fat in my belly) that I haven't had much bruising or anything.

oh well all for a good cause!

Judy - I think this process makes us all crazy. Sounds like things are moving along!

I go in for bloodwork in the am and sono in the pm tomorrow.

Amanda

I'm on the brink of a nervous breakdown. :crazy: I seriously think I'm going to cry!!! :bawl: What the heck is going on today!!??

I have a co-worker (who's office is on the right of me) who is expecting and the wife of a co-worker (who's office is to the left of me) who is expecting. I'm very happy for them. They are due at around the same time. I know they meant no harm, but they stood right by my office this morning showing one another their ultrasound pictures and discussing them. It's a great topic I understand and I'd be thrilled doing the same. . .if I had an ultrasound to show!!! Ladies, I'm usually much stronger. I just couldn't take it. Without my even realizing this was happening, tears started to come out of my eyes. I gently shut my door, composed myself and continued to work. My sister happens to work at the same company. She came and knocked on my door wondering why it was closed. I explained why and she rolled her eyes and laughed. This is exactely why I don't tell my family anything about this anymore because every time I ever hint that this is a sad time for me, I get commments like, "Wait in line. Everybody is sad about something." "Or other people's problems are much worse than yours." In other words, according to my sisters at least, my feelings aren't legitimate. I let it go and then about 2 hours later decided to run out and get lunch. The same place I went to the other day, that's 5 minutes away. Now, I'm not exaggerating her but I fricken' ran into 6, yes 6 employees who work at my company who are pregnant. Maybe it's because of the warmer weather that I'm noticing how many women are pregnant, but 6? Six???? I can't believe that. They weren't walking together either. I feel very angry. Like someone up above or in the universe (or wherever) is taunting me purposely. I can't take it anymore. I don't usually fall apart this easily either. But to run into 6 pregnant woman on any day is a substantial amount, but then squeeze it into a 5 minute, 1/4 mile walk of all women working for the same company. . .you couldn't even plan that type of coincidence. I need to figure out how I can get myself out of here today. I'm seriously on the brink. :furious:

Oh Kimberly, I am so sorry! I know it hurts and if someone ever again tells me how I should stop doing IVF and just be happy I have Julia I will claw their eyeballs out myself. When your life is missing a baby, it is missing a baby...period. And people who don't have that problem will NEVER understand the pain it causes. There was a study done recently (in the last two years) that measured cortisol in the blood (as an indicator of stress level) and the stress of women undergoing IVF is similar to the stress of people who have full-blown AIDS. So no wonder you had to close your door and shut out those women - it was THOUGHTLESS of them to stand practically in front of you gushing about their u/s. And as for your sister, I wish she were more understanding of your pain, I bet she'd certainly want your shoudler to cry on if it were her IF problems. And we don't tell our family about our IVFs either - for precisely the same reason.

But that's why we all have each other - to be the shoulders to cry on that our friends and family cannot provide. To be the cheering section you need without having to explain the process from the very beginning EVERY time. To understand what everything is - both physically AND emotionally. To understand how we all are feeling without really having to say the words. That's why we are here. :hug99:

:blue: Oh Kim. :hug99:

Suzi~i'm so glad you posted. :bughug: I'm home right now. But that's what I needed to hear. I just wanted someone to tell me that I wasn't being a big baby. :kiss: I called my husband at work and I was crying on the phone and when he didn't really respond or console me (to my liking), I got even more upset! Part of the time, he had trouble understanding me because I couldn't put it all into words and I was crying. I felt silly crying as I was trying to spit out that I saw pregnant ladies. It's like, if I said I saw someone die, my behavior would have been more realistic and my crying hysterically would have been more legitimate. But here I am, between sobs saying that I saw 6 pregnant women and I think to myself, it almost didn't make sense. . .that I'm bawling hysterically. What happened to me today? :tearhair: I think I must have separated myself from the event and almost saw myself outside of myself. I couldn't even focus on my emotions because I was also focused on the fact that I was sitting her falling apart. Honestly, I think my husband understood, but he just didn't know how to respond today(I know it's hard for him because he manages a wine store and customers were all around him). Basically, even if he could console me, it was uncomfortable for him to do this while at work. . .a Friday no less. (Lots of people buying wine for the weekend).

I really got caught up with the coincidence of it all. It felt to me like being struck by lightening twice in a day. It just doesn't happen that much. There are not that many people that you can run into in a five minute walk and so that means that for every person (or group of people) I passed, one of them was pregnant. The other uncanny part is that I usually feel the need to grab lunch at around 12:30ish. I got completely bogged down and left my office at 1:30. . .relatively late. On my crazy drive home (I cried through the traffic) I realized that it was Friday the 13th. The thing is, I don't consider myself superstitious and a full moon would have made more sense. I'm still scratching my head at the fact that this happened. . .and for the most part, I'm still feeling completely silly about it and out of my mind. :silly:

Kimberly

Bev~Thank you too. :bighug: I'm on the brink of crying again. Honestly, I can't even seem to move from this computer right now. I just want to float up to a heavenly place without a care in the world. . .or maybe just go on a another vacation. :shrug:

I actually have a "support" friend who is going through the same thing and she's in China for 3 weeks for work. I guess I just don't know who to turn to today. I can't think of anyone to call. Thank you so much for being here. :bighug:

Oh Kimberly! I'm so sorry you had such a bad day. It's amazing how thoughtless people can be. While we have told a few people in our families, I end up regretting it. My mom need pergonal to get PG with my brother but then she had 3 other children without fertility drugs. She's tried to tell me that the reason I still have IF problems is b/c we did IVF instead of IUI so it didn't magically restore my cycles to normal. Then, she keeps telling me that SHE KNOWS I'll have as many children as I want. Funny that she knows that when no one else is so certain! It has really made it impossible to discuss with her which is unfortunate b/c she's usually a good support. It frustrating that even those who are usually such good supports, can be terrible when it comes to IF. I hope you have a better weekend!

My news for the day is a bit better. My E2 was 103 and I have one follicle on the left measuring 12mm and one on the right measuring 9mm. A few others are around 8mm.

Amanda

It's like, if I said I saw someone die, my behavior would have been more realistic and my crying hysterically would have been more legitimate. But here I am, between sobs saying that I saw 6 pregnant women and I think to myself, it almost didn't make sense. . .that I'm bawling hysterically.

I think your crying is totally legitimate. When you're seeing those pregnant ladies, and it's not you after so much time and effort and emotion, it is like seeing your dreams die. (In my humble opinion.) I hope this rough period is over soon. I couldn't get the posts to work after you called your friend that got pregnant using donor eggs, and I think that you were going to share your story with her and instead she shared hers with you, is the superstition you should be focussing on. :hug99:

JUDY-I stimmed for more than 10 days b/c my lining was thin and they wanted to see if it would thicken. It didn't, but I have pcos so I am probably not the same as you...I had about 35 eggs the day of retrieval! that is ALOT so I was lucky. Never heard of stimming too fast though. and I ended up with 6 blasts!

Also- I know Brenda told us about the FERTILITEA but who else was it that wanted it? I have a whole bag that I CANNOT drink b/c of the AWEFUL smell! BRENDA you are amazing me by drinking that. Every time I smell it I GAG! so if you want mine I will be glad to send it to you:)!!!

Brenda- while I am on this lining subject, We are doing our FET protocol right now. I was on lupron for 2wks and then began estradil shots last week. I went to the doc MOnday for my first US after being on the estradiol for 1 week(2 days of shots)..it was 6.9..... Is this good for the first week? During my IVF last time it was that on the day of transfer so I am thinking that this is good for an FET? It was a triple layer so I know that is good.
What do you think?What was your on your first check during your fet's?

e

They like to see it over 8mm for transfer. In my experience, it thickens early and usually stops.

brenda-

uh oh you are scaring me now! I have another US on monday so I will see if there is any improvement. Thx for responding.

e

E - Good luck with the sono on Monday.

Amanda

Hello. I am new to this forum but have a few questions. My husband and I are trying to conceive. My cycle completely stopped so my doctor put me on Provera for ten days and I started (kinda) what I mean by kinda is that it was really dark and very light flow. On the third day of my period, I started on Letrozole for five days. It is now day 12 of my cycle and I have just now stopped bleeding. The whole time is was dark and slow. My question is if this is normal or when will I ovulate? They told me that I am supposed to on day fourteen but I am concerned about my period lasting so long. I am so confused!!!! Any suggestions or advice is greatly appreciated.

Elizabeth

Hi Elizabeth and :welcome: ! We are always happy to have new people here and Ihope your stay is short and sweet!

As for the Femara, it is supposed to help induce ovulation around day 14...are you temping or using an OPK to help pinpoint/identify ovulation? I think using an OPK would be the easiest thing at this point - starting ASAP.

Ovulation induction is not my best area of expertise - perhaps some of the other gals will have other suggestions for you as well! Good luck!

Elizabeth - I just took femara this cycle. It didn't do much for me so we adding injections to the cycle. I think the femara is supposed to cause ovulation anywhere from day 12 to day 18. Does your doctor know that you were bleeding so long with this cycle?

Amanda

My doctor does not know that I am bleeding so long with this cycle. I have a wonderful doctor but the nurses don't seem to think that anything is serious when I call them. I am six hours away from that doctor (we just moved) I am moving to Indonesia in June so I don't have time to mess around.

I am using a OPK. I bought the best kind (Clear Blue Easy). Thanks for the help.

Elizabeth

Good luck Elizabeth!

Amanda

Hello everyone - welcome Elizabeth!

Kimberly I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard and you have every, every right to be upset and no one has the right to minimize your feelings - family, DH - anyone. It just sucks and I'm sorry. I wish I had something wonderful to say to make you feel better but I don't sadly..I'm just sorry.

Amanda - glad to hear that things are looking up! :crossfing

As for me...23 follies as of yesterday's u/s shocked me!Firday it was 13 suposedly. Though 5 or 6 are probably too small but at anyrate we triggered last night and ER is at 8 am tomorrow morning so positive thoughts are most welcome! Then I suppose the wait for the fertilization report Wed. I anticipate that will be a long couple of days! I've been warned by the nurse for being at risk for OHSS (?) so am taking it easy, planning to spend a lot of time off my feet and getting lots of fluids in the hopes it passes me by.

Judy, best of luck to you!! :crossfing I will be waiting anxiously for the fert report!! Are you sure that it's on Wednesday rather than Tuesday?? I've never heard of them being any other day than the day following retrieval?? :dunno:

Judy - GOOD LUCK! Hope everything goes great!

Amanda

Thanks guys! Yeah Suzi, I thought that was a bit odd too, but being a first timer figured ok. I thought they would give me updates as we went along and it was the number & quality on the day of ET that mattered. Yesterday the nurse told me she would be in touch Wed. I was bummed it was so long. Maybe I should ask tomorrow just to clarify. If I can remember!!

judy-

as far as hyperstiming- I did- but I had tons of follies and they retrieved 32 eggs! (my retrieval was over an hour when the norm is only like 30 min!) anyway- I did- but not too bad. I looked like I was 7 mos. pregnant! no lie! ANd you are so so full feeling. ONe bit of advice...if you suspect that you are- drink only gatorade...no straight water- sounds wierd I know but what happens is after your ER the little sacs that the eggs were in fill with water. This causes your ovaries to stay the size of CANTELOPES! for a while. Then what happens when you hyper stim is your vessels become more permeable and fluid from them including proteins release into your body causing you to obtain fluid in your belly. this is why you need something more than water to drink- any water will make you more bloated. Anyway- during all of this the reason it is a risk is that your blood begins to thicken and it puts you at a higher risk for clotting. I know this is confusing- hopefully you won't hyper stim but if you do I will be here for info. My best friend actually had her stomach drained 4 times during it.

on a lighter note- I will be thinking happy thoughts and hopefully you will get lots of eggs! howais your lining? are you doing ICSI? good luck!

e

Fingers crossed Judy!!!

Amanda

:crossfing Let us know!

Hi Ladies! I'm new here and hope you don't mind me joining? I just completed et on 5/10 and am in the 2ww. I think this could cause a gal to go nuts!!!:silly: I don't really know anyone that has gone through this so was looking for other gals that know how I'm feeling. Am s'posed to have Beta on 5/22 (only 6 days left) but feels like the longest 6 days of my life!! :crazy: This is our 1st icsi--had 7 eggs-5 fert, got 3 embies and transferred all 3. Did day 3 tx w/o assisted hatching. Anyone else did anything similar?!?! Would like to just visit.
Good luck to all you gals!!! Hoping for BFP's for all!!!:biggrin: :supergrin :crossfing :crossfing :crossfing

Bridgette

:welcome: Bridgette!! Your cycle is just about my EXACT cycle/results when I got PG with my daughter! I had 9 follicles, 7 eggs, 5 fertilized, and we got 3 embies and transferred all 3! I wish you the best of luck and I'm glad you're here!

Welcome Bridgette! :crossfing that the rest of the TWW goes as quick as possible!!

e-Thanks so much for all the info! I've been searching on line and it seems to be hard to find - wow 32 eggs? wow! I'm hoping I don't go that route but it is very very helpful to know you are here if I do! I tend to bloat anyway with the meds (from my IUI cycles) so I'm just wondering if I will notice..sounds like it will be tough to miss if it happens. I think my lining was about 8.

Thanks for the positive thoughts Amanda and Suzi!

I've woken up from my couch coma :sleepy: The ER went well, they wound up getting 19 eggs though I suspect many are too small to fertilize. The embriologist did decide to do ICSI so they added a steroid and an antibiotic to my mix - apparently they only do this with ICSI :scratch: Anyway, I started those and we will get the fertilization report Wed - I did ask about tomorrow and was told no they call you on Wed when they give you the ET time - interesting. I was out shortly after arriving on the table in the ER room so the anethesiologist did a good job! We had a bit of a stressful period because they asked DH to provide a second sample. The nurse assured us it is not uncommon, I guess they don't routinely assume ICSI for MF they wait until day of ER to decide..slightly nervewracking but I just hope they have what they need to make us some good healthy embies and we get good fertilization now :crossfing
Thanks again for all the info and the positive thoughts!!

~~
Judy

Bridgette - Fingers crossed!
Judy - Hoping for great fertilization report!!!!

My E2 level was 494 today which is perfect. I have one 17mm follicle on the left and one 13.5mm follicle on the right. I took 2 more amps of meds today and will trigger late tomorrow night. IUI is scheduled for Thurs at 3pm. Obviously, we're also getting busy here to help things along...

Amanda

YOU GO GIRL!!! :sex: :lol:

Excellent news Amanda!!! :crossfing for you guys!! I'll be thinking about you on Thursday!!

Judy - Can't wait to hear your report tomorrow!

Trigger tonight!

Amanda

Amanda, good luck! :crossfing

Thanks Suzi!
I'm already making myself crazy and I haven't even had the IUI yet. Not a good sign...

Amanda

Thanks for the encouragement Suzi!! Only 4 more days to go....and the days feel like weeks!! My poor dh is going nuts with me. I'm pretty sure he thinks an alien has invaded my body! LOL:lol2: The good thing is that since we've been home, it has been pretty hectic trying to catch up on everything so time is going by a little quicker these last couple of days.

Judy-was just wondering how your fert report was. How are you feeling? Keeping my fingers crossed for you!!:crossfing

Good luck Amanda!!:crossfing :crossfing

Does anyone know if you can do a hpt after ivf and if so when?
I know the hcg shot stays in your system but I don't know for how long and if the results are accurate if you do one?!!? I don't know if I will do one, but I must admit the thought is tempting! :devildanc
Good luck to all you ladies-keeping my fingers crossed for everyone!!

That's the problem with the HCG injection. It's hard to know. If you test too early, you can get a false positive. That having been said, we did an HPT with my IVF cycle. I tested once 9 days after my retrieval and got a negative (which I wanted to prove that the HCG was out of my system). Then I got a +++ 12 days after the retrieval. I may do something similar with this IUI cycle.

Amanda

The hCG trigger CAN remain in your system for UP TO 14 days. Having said that, I have not known anyone to get a :bfp: about 8-9 days after trigger so I'd say say you are in the clear for an accurate HPT.

I was talking to my RE the other night and he said that he believes nearly EVERYONE tests at home and knows before they get their blood drawn. :dunno:

Suzi - I agree. I think we're all crazy enough to test at home!

Amanda

swankeb - I did the same thing Amanda did with testing to get a negative from the trigger

Amanda - you and I will both get knocked up tomorrow!! :thumbsup:

I had what felt like the longest day ever! :dead: waiting and more waiting. The PC's were down at the clinic so I didn't get my report until 4:30. By then I had convinced myself something was horribly wrong and no one wanted to call me. I honestly had myself so wound up. Not good..I know! :blush: But FINALLY the nurse called and reported we have 12 fertilized embies!! no idea on quality yet - she said because it is so changable, we won't get any of that information until tomorrow at transfer when they will pick the best 2 for us. whew - what a relief! So please positive thoughts!! We go in about 9 and ET will be at 10. The nurse explained they would give me a valium to relax my uterus - I told her I could use it now after that day :awink: good thing she laughed.

GREAT news Judy! Fingers crossed for the transfer.

Amanda

IUI went well. 66 million motile sperm! I wish they had done a sono to confirm ovulation. I'm starting on progesterone intravaginal capsule tomorrow night.

Amanda